You don't remember those pesky crusades, do you? NM
Posted By: AnnuderMT on 2009-05-07
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Interesting how the Crusades can be used, almost like statistics, to defend or decry anything we wish. When I was growing up, going to Catholic school, when someone wanted to demean Catholicism as some sort of cult, they would rely on the same 4 things; Mary, confession, the pope and the Crusades. (The Crusades were a bad thing). It was always the one they saved for last...**Well, what about the crusades, explain that one.** Although we studied apologetics in school so that we could defend our religious beliefs with scripture and historical facts, as well as the writings of the early church fathers, no one gave a fig about anything we had to say. Their minds were made up before we opened our mouths. Catholics were not Christians and the Crusades were bad and we were all going to hell in a handbasket if we did not change our evil ways.Now, evidently the Crusades are seen as a good thing. Too bad the nuns and brothers who taught me are not alive...they would be happy to hear this.
As far as the terrorists coming to our front doors, I really don't believe that. I think, in Iraq at least, that they hate each other more than they hate us. I can't really see them packing up and bringing their civil war to Indiana or New Jersey. I think that they want revenge amongst themselves first and foremost, Sunnis want control back and since they are small in number, they see that as a need, not a want. Shiites want a theological government run by them and payback for the way Sunnis have treated them for 30 years. Kurds want revenge for everything that has happened to them for 100s of years. I think they want that more than they want democracy, or at least first. I remember saying 3 years ago that terrorism was a state of mind and not a place so even if we razed Iraq and started over, terrorism would go on and it has, blossoming nicely. I do not see how we can win a war against terrorism. There are no boundaries to it, no lack of soldiers willing to die for it, too many sects of it. If we do what the hawks want, I believe we will be entering into the second 100 years' war and still it will not be **won** whatever that means. We just can't kill or incarcerate everyone we **suspect** of terrorist activities, or connections to terrorists or whatever. Besides, you pull one out and 2 more appear. I think we can put **peace in the Middle East** be it Israel, Palestine, Iraq, Iran, the Arab emirates et al in the NEVER column. It is just not going to happen, ever.
The Crusades isn't being used for anything. sm
It's historical significance in saving Europe from worldwide dominance to Islam is an historical fact. Just because you have your head in the sand regarding radical terrorists doesn't mean I have to ignore them.
You don't know much about the Islamic crusades
For your enlightenment, and if taught in schools, you would know that Muslims lauched their OWN crusades OUTSIDE of Arabia two years after Muhammed's death.... this was their "holy war" or "jihad"
Muslims and you no doubt have forgotten that Muslims launched crusades several CENTURIES before the Europeans launched theirs as a defense AGAINST Islamic expansion....
Funny how all those folks you get your info from conveniently forgot to inform you of the truth for the crusades from the Europeans!!
They were protecting themselves, much like the United States should be doing!
Islamic teaching is that of hate of ALL who are not them.... plain and simple.
Get your crusades straight before you show your ignorance!
I wouldn't compare invading Iraq to the Crusades...nm
There's that pesky double standard again.....nm
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How about that pesky Jennifer Brunner?
challenge aimed at suppressing 250,000 new voter registrations in Ohio that would favor republicans.
and that pesky democratic congress...funny, how you forget...
Ah just that pesky little piece of paper called the Constitution. n/m
Yep, you're right....it was probably that pesky "sm" poster typed in wrong....my bad.
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Yeah, it's that pesky TRUTH raising its ugly head again, huh?
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I will remember that one...if you remember...thou shalt not kill. nm
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Oh my! I remember him well. I remember we used to call him...sm
tricky d!ck. He lost the election when he appeared at the first television debate against JFK, slam dunk! He was a very crafty, evil man in my opinion and the latest news reinforces my opinion even more. It was so interesting that he eventually did become president years later and proved to be a disgrace to the presidency.
Just remember
"the South don't need you around anyhow..."  from Lynard Synard "Sweet Home Alabama"
we each remember what
we value most. I will remember the years of prosperity and delight of having such an intelligent, charismatic leader. You can remember the blow jobs if you wish. I rarely think about JFK in the WH pool with bimbos, because he was so much more than that. Just a helpful hint.
I remember one of
the other speakers - Britt Exhume.
remember that
song by Cindy Lauper "True Colors." I see your true colors shining through . . . If you cannot recognize inappropriate behavior in a statesman, you shouldnt be commenting.
remember this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJJN9qwhkkE
Yes, I remember very well. nm
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Uhh...if I remember right,
It was Michelle Bachmann who BLAMED Chris Matthews for TRICKING her into answering the way she did. She is undoubtedly unqualified to be a congresswoman...let's just get rid of her. She can get a REAL JOB.
You may not be old enough to remember......... sm
the Nixon administration and a lot of the news reporters these days aren't for sure, but I am and I remember how paranoid he was. He was really one strange bird! As far as the foul language, I doubt he could outdo some of our other more stellar presidents from years gone by. FDR was no altar boy.
Any person who takes a public office, regardless of the level, is open for public criticism. I guess that is the American way. But even though there may be damage done to our country, the ultimate time of truth comes between him/her and their Maker. That is one time of recompense that no one will escape.
remember 9/11?
Find me anyone in this country who wasn't ready to go to war on September 12, 2001. Where would we be now? And if you travel, you will find many countries still love America and what it stands for. Why do you think so many people come here from other countries? Having traveled, I have seen it myself.
Are you old enough to remember who
You and Fox News actually think that the former Iran-contra McCain compadre war profiteering arms dealing Contra coup financier, megalomaniac military man who holds himself above the law North has any credibility whatsoever? His notorious flagrant disregard for the boundaries of his own authority and self-proclaimed untouchable status flies in the face of any American with any respect for the rule of law. Get real.
Right. I seem to remember after
9/11 hearing about them being told to shave their beards and blend in with our culture/society.
I remember when my dad used to get
Back in the late 70's and early 80's, my dad worked hard. He went to school and became a pharmacist in Flushing, Michigan outside of Flint. I went to school and EVERYONE's parents worked for GM, Chevy, and other car companies. There was just a handful of students whose parents did not work for a car company. My mother's side of the family all worked for a car company. Thank God my cousin, the last one in the family took early retirement 3 weeks before the big financial downhill with the US economy. My dad used to be so upset. He went to school for 4 years and became a pharmacist and still got paid less than people who worked for GM with no schooling, all FREE eye exams and glasses, free health care, free cars, free everything. Boy did it burn my dad up. We then moved from Michigan to Arizona in 1982.
Actually if you remember
When McCain was ahead dow went up, when Obama was ahead dow would go down. It was a rollercoaster but we could tell which way the dow would go by who was ahead during the election.
With all the taxes the O plans to raise, most people are pulling their money out of stocks, and many are getting out of things that will raise their taxes. The owner of the Miami Dolphins plans to seel before the O takes office. The O's lack of knowlege of how the economy thrives on lower taxes, smaller government, and creation of jobs is going to be one of his downfallings (but unfortunately the country will suffer because of it).
You see, what you have to remember
that matters, to he!! with the constitution or anything else that may stand in his, or as Ms. Pelosi put it, *our,* way. Just like everything since he announced his candidacy that doesn't sit well with him, just sweep it under the rug and forget about it!
Just Remember
The "alternative plan" that 90% of the Republican Senate caucus voted for contained tax cuts only. No stimulus. Just tax cuts. This "alternative plan" would have cost over $3 trillion in lost revenue over the next decade, without investing one single dollar in economic stimulus.
It's hard to be bipartisan when the other party is insane.
You have to remember.....
he has only been in office for what? 6 weeks = give or take? For me (and undoubtedly millions of others) to see this change in our COBRA this fast is utterly remarkable. I have never seen a president move as fast as he has and cover ground as much as he has in such a short period of time. NO ONE can tell me he isn't "working." He is working his tail off. He talked about cutting all the BS spending in Washington and they have line itemed 2 trillion in savings ALREADY! I BELIEVE we will see some very serious change - some things not so fast, other things incredibly fast. I am impressed with what he has accomplished already after decades of ineffective leadership. I wasn't sold on the stimulus bill.....some of it probably won't be effective, but, we won't know until we see the outcome. I hope for good things.
Anybody else remember this?
I think an airline lost a law suit for adding on a surcharge for double-wide passengers. They had originally tried to charge for two seats, but then changed it to a surcharge, but still lost a suit. I don't think I'm making this up, but don't have time to research it right now.
Remember...
James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so I guess that doesn't count, huh? Please!
Remember...
James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so that doesn't count, right? Please!
Remember...
James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so that doesn't count, right? Please!
Remember...
James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so I guess that doesn't count, right? Please!
Remember...
James I-hope-he-fails Carville? Of course, that was before the towers fell, so I guess that doesn't count, right?
Please! Talk about ridiculous claims!
please remember
that unemployed and under-employed are two different things. Wonder what the under-employed number would be. I have been led to believe it is quite high. I have no statistics on this and wonder if anyone else would know more about that.
Don't you remember what
Janean Garofalo said? Any opposition makes you a racist. Had he been a white guy, Bush....say...or McCain, then it would be perfectly okay. Glad to straighten that out for you.
Thanks for your post. Do you remember
where you saw that? It sounds very interesting, and I'd like to read more about it.
Your post was polite and responsive. You didn't spend your time immaturely calling others names. Yours is one of two intelligent posts on this board, and I'd really like to read more about what you mentioned. Thanks. 
Remember Pat Buchanan?
I just watched him on Hardball. He acknowledged majority of Americans are against the Iraqi war.
They were discussing Cindy Sheehan. The only words he used to describe her were "authentic" and "has authenticity." I was fully expecting him to slam her, but he didn't.
Wake up, already. The majority of Americans are against this war. Want to use our troops for a real, legitimate purpose and not some invented theoretical justification to get even with the guy who tried to kill your daddy once? Put our soldierse on our borders with Mexico and Canada. Let them prevent terrorists (posing as Mexicans because they have the same physical characteristics) from crossing our borders and KILLING US. That would go a long way toward BEGINNING to fight terrorism HERE, where we REALLY need it, not in some foreign sovereign nation who posed no real threat to us. Let them do their REAL job, which is to protect and defend America during a time when we've never needed them MORE to do just that.
By the way we remember who Casey is
He was the brave and valiant young man who gave his life for a JUST cause. In fact, he believed in that cause sooo much that he re-uped to stay there. It's sad that his mother can't be proud of him for that. Well, the rest of us are proud enough to make up for his sadly mentally ill and duped mother.
Oh yeah, I do remember that
Nan was stalked mercilessly by a very, very rude and hateful person. I hope yahoo got them...
Let me just qualify this, as some might remember me...
talking about affordable health care and I was able to make it, yada yada, are now thinking "she has room to talk, she is on hubby's insurance." Well, let me put that to rest. This is second marriage for both of us. Suffice it to say, I am paying out the same amount of money I was paying out before the marriage. Also suffice it to say, BOTH of us learned in marriage #1 to keep finances independent. LOL. Just clarifying that. :-)
I remember in the mid 1980s...
My clunker was in a coma, and I went to the Chevy lot and bought the cheapest car I could find, a Chevy Sprint. (Didn't even have a radio when I bought it!) I remember my 12-year-old daughter throwing a hissy fit and NOT wanting the car because it didn't have a passenger side visor mirror. In spite of her vain self, I bought the car. This car easily got 50 miles per gallon. (Of course, I had to buy a mirror for the passenger side visor and a radio, as well. LOL)
Whatever happened to the Chevy Sprints that used to be??? If they could build them then, why can't they build them now?
You are way too immature to remember
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As a mom of 3 young men, I remember
vividly the day my oldest left for the Air Force. He was 19. There was no war. Then son #2 left in the National Guard in 1991 during Desert Storm.
I have to give her credit for even being able to speak, let alone hold up under fire, right after sending her son off to war!
You may be too young to remember, but that is what..sm
they said about John F. Kennedy and we all know what happened with that election and Nixon's loss, eventual election, and ultimate disgrace to our country. Most would have said Nixon was more qualified and had more experience. What do you think?
Ewwwww - I remember that - sm
If it wasn't bad enough that that was disgusting what was even more embarrassing was when my mom had to literally explain it to my grandfather as he didn't know. Poor gramps, so innocent. HA HA My mom said its not bad enough that Clinton was doing it and she had to explain it to her father, can you imagine the parents having to explain it to their young children.
don't remember which interview
watched so many with all the political shows. Can't even visualize the reporter.
remember when Rudy
wanted to cancel election after 911?
It died once before, remember? And the once
(which the dear ol' boys in the 'Pub-Club' want to get rid of, remember?), Wall St. and the USA did even better than before. It collapsed because of a major flaw, and too much GREED. The same things we're faced with today. I can survive a Depression just fine. I'm an MT, and we're already experiencing one.
Exactly right. Remember that when you are working...
100% for the STATE.
Actually, what I remember hearing about was ....sm
that it would be like our own personal savings account. I would much rather have that, than have the govt have their hands in my SS pocket, using my SS as they have been doing, and putting the IOU away in a drawer somewhere.
Not sure what his current plan is or if it has changed, but if I get to control my own SS money, I'm all for it.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/17/mccain-social-security/
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