You've got to be kidding me? Defending their actions and blaming on Bush?
Posted By: Unbelievable on 2008-09-03
In Reply to: Those things are citizens exercising free speech, - Right to assemble, redress govt. Sound familiar?
Sure, they have a right to be "activists" and to march and to protest. They do not have a right to smash in windows and vandalize property. What's worse is that many of these are not ativists. They have NO IDEA what they are protesting against. Ask them who the vice president of our country is, they can't tell you. They are young foolish kids who think it's fun to be out there causing trouble and posing as "activists" with a cause. It's rather inane to equate these things with true activists.
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Do You Believe Bush's Actions Justify Impeachment? sm
The results are amazing - 380,341 yes (86%).
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10562904/
 Righties - I do not care if it is not scientific, the American people have spoken.
There ARE reasons beyond blaming Bush...
for the haves and the have nots. How many of those people wandering the streets worked hard in school, applied for FREE tuition at the local college (which they most certainly qualify for based on income), waited until they were married to have kids, and on and on? WIth 70% of African-American babies born to single women these days, it's no wonder that poverty runs rampant among the African-American communities. It's sad, it's tragic, and I'd go there right now to give ANY of those people all the food and water I have in my house right now, but you cannot totally blame others for their financial position... Most of it comes from poor personal choices. This is a country of opportunity and people only need to be smart and avail themselves of it.
It's "phase"...... time to stop blaming Bush
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You've got to be kidding
How exactly does that happen, one giving birth to their own biological children because of heterosexual relationships? Course gay men need to inseminate an agreeable friend or other woman to have their own biological children, but lesbians have no trouble at all conceiving, generally speaking. Thinking that gay people have no reproductive organs by design (and you would have to think this in order to believe that we cannot have our own children) and thinking that heterosexual relationships are responsible for "providing" us children is beyond ignorant. Beliefs such as these as well as those whose minds think gay marriage and automatically make a leap to marrying animals scare the h3ll out of me. As I said before, they call US weird/sick/.
The only way children are born into this world is through C-section or through the womb and lesbians have those too. You don't need to be part of a heterosexual relationship to become pregnant, or for a man, to inseminate someone else. There's a frozen pop for everyone (and I suppose you think all those are from heterosexual men too?).
I can't believe I'm even arguing this. That's it for me. No wonder we're where we are with this issue. Scary.
You've got to be kidding me!
Factcheck.org is the project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center and funded by the Annenberg Foundation.
Senator Obama was the first Chairman of the Board of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, which was a division, or project of the Annenberg Foundation.
Factcheck.org (who was used as a resource by so many who wish to "debunk" negative coverage of Obama) is also a division or Project of the Annenberg Foundation (i.e. supporters of Obama). Imagine that, Obama's supporters have their own website and have convinced people they are telling the truth. That would be laughable if it wasn't true.
Below is a link that describes The Annenberg Foundation, ACORN, etc.
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/21/obama-ayers-annenberg-and-acorn-a-family-affair/
What in the world are you talking about "flying back in time". Don't pass me any of that kool-aid.
Lets let the Supreme Court decide on the bc issue.
As for Office of the President Elect. You really need to do some research. While there has always been a President Elect in History, There has NEVER been an "Office of the President Elect". This is a NEWLY CREATED office by the O. So how can you go back and create something that never was!
You've got to be kidding! If you think the
economy was fine up until 2 years ago, then I've got a bridge to sell you. People should have to take a test to see if they even pay attention before they're allowed to vote, sheesh. I suppose you're one of the, what, 18% who think Bush has done a heckuva job?!
You've got to be kidding me!
You mean to tell me there's not one single person in DC or out that he could have picked that actually has experience AND isn't part of the Bush team? Please!!!
You've got to be kidding!!
These programs have been around for decades. You either gonna lose weight or you're not. The vast majority go straight to surgery if they're that overweight. There will not be fewer people in high risk categories, because those programs have failed time and time again. My own doctor says they just do not work. It is just more paper pushing around.
No one can make you stop eating, make you exericse, or make you stop smoking.
You either have to make up your mind to stop or you don't. No more jobs on paper only.............pleeeze!
You've got to be kidding!
The UN went that easy on them and they want an apology?
I'm not for nuking them first, but what if they make good on their threat? That's just what we need!
You've got to be kidding!
The UN went that easy on them and they want an apology?
I'm not for nuking them first, but what if they make good on their threat? That's just what we need!
you've got to be kidding -democrats honest.
What have you been smoking. I can't remember the last time Barack O'flipflop said an honest comment. One thing you got right was we need change and that is what we will get with McCain and Sarah Palin. The women who fought "the boys" and won. The woman who balanced her budget, cut back unnecessary spending, among other good things for her state. Is she perfect? No, nobody's perfect. Including Barack O'brother. Sure Barack will fix the economy, however that's not the kind of fix I want. I would prefer not to have higher taxes, more government waste, government control, government sticking their noses in where they don't belong. Socialist programs, socialist health care. Where in the world do you think he's going to get all the money to keep running the "fluffy bunny programs". Us. Sorry, I am not ready to keep funding programs that do not benefit America. Maybe you can afford to but I'm having a hard time just keeping afloat here. Democrats more honest than republicans??? Pulllleeease. Get a grip on reality. The reason we hear about McCain's POW story is because it shows he has integrity. He will stand up and fight for American's. He could have been released but he stayed knowing what would happen to him. That's what I call integrity, honor, and heroism. Nobody knows Barack O'No's intentions. What I don't trust is he's been running his campaign on the point that he's going to bring the troops home. Now he's saying they will stay there another five years, AND he's in favor of the draft. So, yes if your in favor of change vote for Mr. O. He seems to be changing his mind all the time.
You've got to be kidding! How narrow-minded
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You've got to be kidding. I suppose you must reside
at the Astro turf planet. I second signing a a petition to rid this country of Onuto.
We're not defending Bush we're pointing out the obvious
All you see in your view is Bush, Bush, Bush. Nobody else exists. You have yet to answer any of the questions I posed yesterday. We're not the one obsessing about Bush. I'm sure you'll counter that with I don't owe you any answers! It's really telling that for five or six days this board was mute about the Israel/Lebanon situation. You were too busy posting trash news about Bush like nothing was even happening, but I know that the left has wait for its talking points. You all cannot formulate opinions on your own. You have boilerplates ready to go though. *This is Bush's fault because _____________ but you have to wait on Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, etc. etc. to fill in the blanks for you. It's not just a phenomenon here but with all the left. You can count on at least two days of silence when something unforseen breaks out in the world, because they have to retreat to their bunkers to get their talking points straight, but it will always start with *This is Bush's fault because....
And hoping for Bush and his daughters and wife to burn in hell is just kidding right? sm
Just want to get this clear.
That's the first time I've seen Mr. Bush
He's the man who's supposed to be in charge of this country at the present time. Blaming the individual Presidential nominees for this is ridiculous. They are one of how many? The entire gov't is responsible for it and Bush is at the top. This mess started when he was in office and he should be responsible for cleaning it up. Perhaps he should give up his salary/pension. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for the gov'tal leaders mistakes?
I think politicians should start having to carry malpractice insurance. Doctors are made to be responsible for their errors, so should the politicians.
So. Tell me what your actions have been in
What have you, personally, done in terms of physically or financially supporting one or more of the children you feel you have 'saved'?
Just wondering.
Actions vs words.
Bush cannot recommend a constitutional amendment defining marriage as taking place between a man and a woman without a healthy respect for the Constitution itself. One does not merely walk into Iraq on the basis of a **** piece of paper. This story is a year and a half old. The publication who broke this story is about as far left as one can get. If the reputable publications from both sides of the fence felt it was a real story, they would have certainly run with it. They didn't. That' s my take on it after examining it.
At least he condemned his actions
and didn't lie about it!
Slick Willy did it on OUR time and dems seem to think he was the greatest thing since sliced bread it seems! AND THEN he lied! But that doesn't matter does it?
Seriously, when Bill did that all I heard was "it's not about personal issues, it's about how he runs the white house" well dangit if he gets that line so does Mccain! And at least Mccain isn't out getting around while he is in the white house!
Find something else to harp on please. I'm tired of hearing about something that happened over 30 years ago. If you want to go there, Ayers was a terrorist what 40 years ago????? So I guess that should still be viable evidence against Obama! But I forget that the tide doesn't roll both ways with the followers of Obama!
your actions speak louder than
your weak attempts to backtrack. You really should be terribly ashamed. Racism hopefully will die out with your generation. There is no place in this world for hatred due to pigment differences in humans. I am just so dismayed at your ignorance.
No....I am advocating taking responsibility for your actions...
and not killing the result of those actions. But why teach responsibility when you can flush the problem right on out, right? sheesh.
With all due respect, your actions reflective of your personality actually prevent
your political views from coming through because most of your posts are nothing more than personal attacks on posters, and that kind of behavior doesn't do one thing to further your political cause.
I can't speak for everyone but I know I visit the Conservative board, as well as this board. You and AG have indicated you don't want liberals to post on your board, so I've tried to refrain from doing that. When you make such vitriolic, hateful statements about all liberals on one board and then come here and claim to be "respectful," that's very disingenuous, and that action doesn't do anything to increase your perceived credibility or honesty.
As I've said before on these boards, I'm interested in hearing all points of view but only if they reflect a truthful statement.
If there is a case of oppression caused by an activist judge or group, that's horrible and should be fought. But when it turns out to be something that isn't at all associated with activist judges or groups, then that lessens the credibility of the person who claimed that it was.
As far as being in a military family, thank you and your family for the sacrifices you made while your family member was in the military. When it comes to the military, it makes no difference whether or not I agree with the war because I am an avid supporter of the military and their families for the sacrifices they make to help keep us safe. I think their lives are very valuable and should be placed in jeopardy only when absolutely necessary to defend the United States.
The word is only reflective of your ACTIONS. Why don't you stop stalking her?
You're a scary, SCARY person. Seriously. You're obviously pathologic, unbalanced, in dire need of help and you're scary.
Yeah, and didn't Michelle just tell us to judge Obama on his actions? sm
They finally let her out of her box onto the Larry King show, and that's one of the things she said.
I don't like his actions, one little bit.
He's bamboozled millions of people.
Thank you for not blaming
I think we can all agree that there is a lot wrong and we hope it can be fixed. Too many people seemed to be focused on blaming someone instead of coming up with solutions. I really get tired of people blaming Bush for stuff that is not his fault. I agree he has not been one of the best presidents, but neither was Carter or Clinton (and I voted for both of them), but sometimes we have to just put our ego aside and try and find some solutions. I'm sure the people who are out of work are not looking to blame someone, they just want to know how it's going to be fixed. I believe both sides have had a part in the way our economy is. It is niether solely one or the others.
What are you blaming him for?
Nothing bad has happened that is not a repercussion of previous administrations.
He's only been in office for 60-plus days for goodness sakes. Give the man a chance.
I don't think SPENDING money in the US is blowing money. I think blowing money is money spent on a bad-intentioned war that killed and maimed thousands.
So what would you do... let the water stagnate... just not do anything? Please link me to the Republicans' solution/plan for getting us out of what they got us into. thank you.
Just because I'm tired of the blaming and
bashing on both sides? Okay. You win. It's all the Dem's fault and everyone should run them out of the country.
Help me understand why nobody is blaming the Big 3?
I feel like everybody is blaming the wrong people for the problems the car industry is facing... I think it is the car industry themselves who should take responsibility for getting themselves out of the mess they are in or else shut their doors. Every other business in America does that. If they cannot handle the financial part of their business, then they go out of business...
I understand that it is going to put a lot of people in a bad situation and I feel very sorry for them, I really do. However, I don't think it is my responsibility to have to pay more to help them. Is that not the same thing that everyone has been fussing about, "redistributing the wealth"? I feel sure right now if the company I worked for were in financial trouble, they would close their doors because the government is not going to step in and help them, and I feel sure I would be sitting here with no job and no income and nobody is going to step up to do a bailout package for the transcription companies.
How about the construction workers? Is the government working on a bailout for them? What about the electricians, the plumbers? It all has to end at some point. I personally feel like we are all in the same boat right now and that we are all going under, so why do we have to throw more money on top of bad money to delay the inevitable?
Not blaming Obama. Who was
The lucrative virus contract was awarded the day before Obama became president. Which party has admitted they have a lot to gain if America gets **hit** again? Who had a supposed homeland security **bioterror** plan within the last 8 years? The timing of this is very interesting with Cheney saying in the last couple weeks that Obama can't keep us safe and voila! There's a brand new flu that combines all the ones we were told for the last few years could trigger a **pandemic**, especially the bird flu. Oh and now some **experts** are saying this very well could have started in America and not Mexico. Since 2001, the only grip republicans had on Americans was fear and they used it often. Too convenient.
Just saying and blaming 'propaganda' is not enough, .........sm
give us YOUR version of the truth.
Hello!
Are you still there?
next thing you know she will be blaming sm
the gays because she burned her toast this morning!
Are they blaming conservatives
and pro-life people for one person who lied? It seems to me like these pro-life people were trying to be supportive and be there for someone that they really thought needed them. How where they supposed to know that they were being lied to? Instead of blaming conservatives as a whole on this one, why aren't they placing the blame on the ignorant woman who was addicted to blogging and made all of this up? I just don't get the logic some of you people have. One person lied and so all these pro-lifers came to her aid thinking she needed it and somehow it isn't the liars fault.....it is the pro-lifers. Yeah...makes perfect sense.....sheesh
It is no more of a stretch than blaming McCain for it...
and that is what many are trying to do. Shame on THEM. Why don't you correct them as well?
blaming someone you know nothing about for something that hasn't happened
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Hypocrisy is aplogizing and blaming someone else
Voters are tired...real tired...of this party's double speak.
Blaming wrong people......
Blame the freakin' banks and CEOs - Wall St., speculators driving up housing costs (just like they are driving up gas costs, again). Barney Frank didn't bag all these mortgages into derivatives and then bet on the derivatives......Sheesh. When I refinanced my other home (yes, we have 2), I was told my loan would probably be sold. It never was. Probably because the payments were always made on time. (this was 5-6 years ago). My husband was laid off the first of the year (I don't work due to medical problems). My kids are paying the mortgage on the 2nd house. (I had a house when I married, then we bought a house together right before we were married). We don't have a pot to pss in, but, we have 2 houses to worry about. Can't sell 'em and our mortgage on the house WE live in is cheaper than rent.
Ohmigod - now you are blaming the flu on Obama?
I think now I have heard it all!
I understand how you can blame some things on President Obama, but to say that he could not keep the country safe because there is a flu outbreak? That just beats it all in my book - let's take it one step further, why don't we?
This just goes to show that he is not capable of leading the world in that New World Order, so we better hurry up and find somebody else to do that!
And O's making it worse by FAR....blaming...sm
it on the last administration doesn't get it anymore, Amanda - it's now OBAMA'S watch and all he can do is spend, spend, spend. I guess it's gonna have to take you being broke while the big wheels sit back and laugh for you to get it? Sad, very very sad!
Not that she needs defending . . . sm
All of you haters have the nerve to call JTBB hateful? Are you kidding or extremely delusional? Don't bother -- I already know the answer to that one. First of all, just look at your comments. Very scary stuff, i must say, and extremely immature. Anybody with a brain can read the comments on this board and know who is hate-filled and it sure ain't JTBB. Should I run through the list of those on your hate list? Let's see: Democrats, homosexuals, non-Christians, anyone not American, your own President and ANYONE who has a different opinion than yours. When I read comments like these, I picture a crazed mob with pitchforks in hand out for blood! Pretty picture, huh?
As for the comment about JTBB going to the Faith board, I have read some of the very adult discussions she has had there, and they are nothing but thought-provoking, backed by historical or theological facts, and have a genuine curiosity about what Christians believe and is NEVER degrading, condescending or goading in any way, and usually the posters she engages there are likewise adult and willing to have an honest discourse without attacking or being as hateful as you people here.
"First they laughed at us...and then they died." (Hope your're proud of this very threatening comment; you should really seek some help).
"JTBB is the most bigoted voice on here." (Guess you don't listen to yourself much, do you?)
". . .no problem going to the Faith board in the hopes of goading someone into a fight."
I find most of the anger and and outright hatred expressed on this forum extremely distasteful and very disturbing and it makes me ashamed to share the same industry with people like you, as I consider the medical field to usually require a compassionate type of personality, and I see none of that here.
Holding people accountable and blaming
people are 2 different things. Blaming either party will get us nowhere. The situation is upon us and the blame game is only holding up the resolution.
Holding people accountable may help to prevent a similar situation in the future. Holding someone accountable means owning up to their part in the problem and making retribution to fix the problem. If someone went along with this and gained financially from it, then that person should be accountable - own up and pay up. If someone went along with this and gained politically, then that person should be accountable - own up and give up (your position).
I took serious offense to your comment because you didn't say it was directed to the politicians on the hill. You said as a general statement to all dems.
Time to stop blaming Clinton
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Do you know how silly the libs sound by blaming everything
that happened in the last eight years on Bush?
I predict, that Obama will not take responsibility for anything that happens in next two years at least, maybe four....it will all be Bush's fault in some way.
And those won't be my words. They will be Obama's words.
Wait and see.
How much confidence can you have in president who takes no personal responsibility, or a Congress that takes no personal responsibility in their own legislation, blaming Bush for their own bailout legislation that they wrote?
Dems always change the rules.
It's happening again, slowly and surely.
Michelle Bachmann blaming Obama
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There is no defending this action. SM
But what makes you think this guy is a conservative? Did he say that. I read this and I don't see him making a statement. Your signs don't even begin to measure up to mine. I would have thought the cesspool DU could have come up with better than that.
I am not necessarily defending them.
I am trying to make people have a broader view of them. Gadfly seemed to be headed in that direction, but, of course, that was too much for you to bear. One mind, I know the drill. Hateful? Not at all. Truth, gt. It's called truth. It's my truth and I am sticking to it. More might be truthful with you if they weren't afraid of getting their leg chewed off to the knee. You won't argue with me, because you can't. You don't operate on logic, you operate on emotion. Kill the messenger was invented as a slogan exactly for people like you. If you move outside your comfort zone, you attack the messenger, cut them off at the knees, with an airy 'this just isn't worth discussing' or some such. Surely, I am not the first to have pointed this out to you. I won't be the last either. I have had my fill. My expectations were far too high on finding this board. I will move on along, before you revoke my privileges. As far as racism, I posted many excellent examples of it up at the top of the board, not that you would read it. I can imagine that you are the type who never reads posts, only the headings, or at the very least a line or two, and then just responds out of sheer emotion. One can do that on chat boards. How you get away with it in life, I have an idea. I won't say it here though, lest you endanger yourself with a stroke at hearing the truth.
Geez. Of course I would be defending her....
her wealth has NOTHING to do with it. She is a first-time offender. You hate her because she is rich, that's obvious. I don't care how much money she has or does not have. She is a first offender. She should be treated like any other first offender. Barack Obama AND John McCain are for rehab, not incarceration, for first-time offenders. Neither of them tie it to wealth. Barack Obama is a millionaire. What if we were talking about Michelle Obama instead of Cindy McCain? You would be screaming at the top of your lungs to defend Michelle Obama and guess what...SO WOULD I. Even though I don't want her husband to be President and even though they are RICH. Your bias is showing.
defending these thugs? Wow,
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Defending Obama
He does not really need defending. He is out there for all to see. There will always be a fringe element passing along conspiracy theories and innuendo -- that's what the Atwaters of the world depend on. The sensible majority has spoken and Obama was elected. I have noticed that traffic at this site has dropped drastically since the neocons were so soundly trounced. I would expect that the few remaining will eventually run out of gas as Obama continues to forge ahead with his principled approach to the country's problems. Future's so bright I have to wear shades. Obama and Michelle interviewed by Barbara Walters tonight - a happy pre-Thanksgiving treat.
P.S. Thank you for defending our country and
keeping us free.
I'm not defending Republicans. sm
If Bush were still President, they would sign the bill. Both sides are bunch of rats to me.
None of you are doing a good job in defending
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