You're right about both parties being politicians
Posted By: mt on 2008-10-21
In Reply to: I will be straight up with you on this one. - Chele
and I guess it just boils down to a lesser of the two evils! This is such a simple thing, I just don't understand why you wouldn't just prove it to shut everyone up.
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What makes you think they're "FRAT" parties? nm
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Politicians will dig up anything
negative they can about anyone running against them. I'm sure we all remember the things said back and forth between Hill and Messiah Obama before they finally picked Master Obama. It is all dirt flinging and back stabbing and promises they don't intend to keep. I truly wish they would invent a BS monitor that would let us know when these politicians are really telling us the truth or whether they are, once again, feeding us a line of BS.
We always fall for the promises made during the campaign and then we see no results when that politician actually gets in office. This is with all political parties and frankly I'm sick of it all. They waste all this money campaigning and smearing the other candidate as best as they can and in the end.....whoever wins still sticks it to the American people and those promises that were made are soon forgotten.
They are all politicians, they only know
how to talk like that, whatever party they are.
And why are all of you not politicians?
You people recite what you read! 
Like most politicians. LOL n/m
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not only the politicians,
people in general, especially when it comes to the Middle East.
Politicians - I don't trust ANY of them
Especially ones who will have anything to do with Clintons (both of them) or any of Clintons cabinet people.
they were as sincere as most politicians are ever - not
I have a very jaded view of our political system .. sorry
everything is calculated
everything is conniving
every move is planned and orchestrated by the "back room"
I've seen it ..
The Clintons did what they had to do to stay in the "power" positions in the Democratic party ... simple as that..
sorry ... JMHO
It's not just liberal politicians.
It's politicians in general. They're all so crooked they have to be screwed into the ground when they die. It's wrong to call prostitution the oldest profession because it's actually politicians that hold that title, although they are similar fields - they both screw people for money.
All politicians lie to get elected.
We are all fooling ourselves if we thing otherwise. It is literally picking the lesser of two evils. The one thing that I can say is that at least McCain makes decisions. He votes instead of just voting present like Obama and when Obama actually has voted yes or no.....he has consistently said one thing and voted the exact opposite. I just do not think he has the experience or the ability to make executive decisions. I do not trust his associations and I do not have the same values as he does.
All politicians are liars!
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All politicians are liars.
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Backwards politicians nm
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Greedy politicians/CEO's
As always, good to see you here...I remember reading when I was a kid that John F. Kennedy did not accept hjs salary as President; that he gave it back to the U.S. Guess since he was wealthy, he felt there was no need to take it. Too bad we don't have that kind of individual in office now..
Since when do politicians support
a group or say they do and then turn around and crap on that group or break promises they made to that group. I think that kind of goes hand in hand with politics. LOL!
Honestly, do you really think Barrack Obama is crapping on the homosexual community because he asked Rick Warren to do this? It isn't changing any laws. To me it looks like a liberal reaching his hand across the aisle to a conservative. To me this shows that even though they may not have the exact same opinions, they can still do something together. Isn't that what we are all about. Reaching across the aisle to show that even though we don't agree, we can still work together. Yet all people can see is this being a bashing session against gay people.
I don't agree with homosexuality. However, if they want some kind of legal union.....whatever. That is about as equal rights as I am going to lean for the gay community. I have gay friends who have no problem leaving the definition of marriage between a man and woman.....as long as they can be joined together legally...that is all that matters to them. I just feel that the ones who are trying to redefine marriage is dead wrong. Leave marriage between a man and woman and give homosexuals some sort of legal union.
This changing every tradition to accommodate every single minority group is what, in my opinion, is hurting our country. All these minority groups want equal rights but in doing that.....they take away from the majority. How much more should the majority have to sacrifice?
The idiots were the politicians!
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I know all politicians lie to get voted in.
However, this is not the time to be playing games with us. A lot more people are watching what government is doing because of what happened last term. Obama really smooth talked a lot of people. I think a lot of people are starting to worry like some of the rest of us about his real intentions. Too bad we couldn't get the rest of the kool-aid drinkers to get a clue.
I say that next election we vote someone in who is neither a pub or a dem. Shake up the parties a bit and let them know that we are fed up with both parties!!!!!
And politicians have the audacity...
to tell bankers and CEOs of the big three how to spend their profits! At least they're using their own money, that they worked for!
It's absolutly disgusting that those politicians in DC think that they can have all these expenses at our expense! I love how they have parties and go off on weekend getaways that we pay for - I haven't had a vacation in years!!!
And the politicians talk about certain groups having a sense of entitlement - give me a break! They have the world's largest case of entitlement disease I've ever seen, starting with voting themselves an automatic raise every year! I thought raises were supposed to be for employees that were doing a good job!
I find most politicians on these shows
respond with rehearsed speech, or just do not answer the question. On Hardball, Chris will say answer the question, yes or no, over and over and over and whoever just goes off on whatever tangent.
Insurance companies and the politicians they buy..
Doesn't anybody in DC have a conscience? The system as it stands now is disgusting. They are literally making billions by killing of thousands upon thousands (maybe millions?) of Americans. Anyone with half a brain should recognize profit-driven health insurance only serves the best interest of the CEOs of the insurance companies - not healthcare recipients! This needs to change NOW!
I saw my first AMA commercial last night urging people to vote with the millions of uninsured Americans in mind. I loved it! It is at least a step in the right direction. Vote with the healthcare crisis in mind people!
Very few politicians care about the people either.
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The Difference between Fish and Politicians
Some of you don't like Glenn Beck, but this video is really funny.
http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/22798848/show-and-tell.htm
Politicians and their love lives
aren't really important to me. This guy didn't lie under oath about his affair. Clinton did but I still really don't care. There peckers and/or cigars aren't my concern. I'm more concerned about how our country is being run and the money being spent, etc. Affairs are things that happen too often. I don't condone that type of behavior but they will have to pay the consequences for their actions. More important issues to discuss than this.
Which can be said for BOTH parties. :-)
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You gotta love them greedy politicians!
'No, no, it's the wrong thing for our country to take money from taxpayers like that!'
'But, if you're gonna do it anyway, I'll take some!'
Just confirms my belief that they should all be thrown out on their rears!
stop comparing politicians to fish!
Everyone knows referring to Trout Pout is a subtle racial insult!
Unfortunately, many politicians stopped caring a looong
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Liberal politicians will NEVER do anything about illegal aliens...
because among all the OTHER illegal things illegals do, they VOTE. And THAT is their value to the liberal left. Keep the poor poor and beholden (and force as many of us into that bracket as they can), illegals with benes...their voting base. They would sing a different tune if you had to prove citizenship to vote...if illegals were stopped from voting their "champions" would disappear like rats deserting a sinking ship. It's all about the power and keeping it...have we learned nothing? The best way to control people is to keep them dependent. Obama knows that. He has studied it his entire adult life. And you have given him the keys to the country. Laughable if not so sad.
Here are some other parties and their candidates.
The Libertarian Party has nominated former Congressman Bob Barr, the Constitution Party has nominated pastor and radio talk show host Chuck Baldwin, and the Green Party has nominated former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Ralph Nader declined to seek the Green Party nomination and is running as an independent candidate. That is in addition to the Ron Paul fans as well as McCain and Obama.
What did we get out of the debate last night? That same ole crap Obama and McCain have been throwing around since the get go. Imagine what that would be like with all these other people thrown in the debate as well.
I think you have the 2 parties mixed up. (nm)
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Tea parties across America
first here is a great video link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA. Also, many states, including Chicago, are actually hosting tea parties throughout many communities and they are gathering a large following. We could be on our way to a revolution.
So you believe we need separate parties to
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Yes, that is true, BOTH parties have to...sm
find newer, stronger, wiser candidates, real workers for the American people, NOT lobbyists or special interest groups. Does such an "animal" even exist in politics???? I am wondering. And as for Pub candidates, had Mr. McCain had more, better ideas for the economy, the war, etc., I was willing to vote for him. But after listening to every speech and debate I could, I was horribly disappointed in this brave man. And when he picked Palin, well, let's just say it was like a sign from God saying "Don't go there." JMHO, thanks for your post, and I, too, felt so bad about how Micheal Phelps was VILLIFIED for perhaps taking a hit off a bong. C'mon, he was SUPERMAN for America, and one youthful mistake that happened in private, and no on knows all the circumstances....so wrong how they made this kid feel!
It looks to me like they have all been working parties too -
One of the lines even said that it was a "hamburger and hotdog" affair for the congressman; and it also plainly stated that Obama had left the party before the conga line started - but who cares anyway?
Do you think just because he is President he is not human and does not like to interact and have fun? Do you not think that every President before him has entertained and enjoyed themselves at their "HOME"?
And these Tea Parties are funny because?????? ...
Rachel Maddow is a mean 5 letter word.
I am one of the organizers of a Tea Party in my city. The little people cannot do anything to the politicians, and true, this may not amount to much, but if it makes even ONE elected official take notice then the purpose has been served.
Perhaps if more people got out and did something rather than laughing about this, we ALL could make a difference. But then that is just my opinion.
King funeral--just another money shot for politicians
and opportunity for all politicians involved to bloviate ad nauseum. The whole thing went on forever. Reminds me of the old Appalachian mountain funerals where there were five or six preachers and each one had to see who could out preach the other.
Everybody had to get their money shot (especially Clinton and Carter) and to me it was sad to see a bunch of politicans and so-called religious leaders take advantage a good woman's funeral just to make their political hay.
Goes to show that you can't even die anymore without it being shrouded in politics.
A lot of politicians on both sides changed their views on the war once the truth came out. nm
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The corruption is pretty even in both parties. sm
The current administration calls itself conservative, but they definitely do not represent my beliefs. I believe in freedom, peace, and prosperity, rights for everyone, and bias towards no one, and have the deepest respect for the Constitution. Except for a few individuals, none of that exists with Democrats or Republicans. I do mean the politicians, not the people.
Free market capitalism produces long-term growth. Socialism and middle-way economic interventionism by the state produce poverty and bureaucracy. If the goal is to keep poor people poor generation after generation you should promote socialism.
What we currently have is a plutocracy. America is one big giant corporation, and the very affluent do control our political process. Those who are honest call them fascists.
I would really like to see those on the left unite with those on the right to do what is right. We are leaving one helluva mess behind for our children and grandchildren, and generations after. The best way to start to do that is become better informed (not the TV news) and get active.
Both parties have raided it since the first raid...
which I still think was during a Dem administration...I will have to research that more.
Well, since corporate america provides most of the jobs in America...what is the answer to that? Socialism, where we all fight for a spot on the government teat?
Class warfare...generally always works because it is the human condition to want what the other guy has without having to raise a hand to earn it. Always easy to stir people up using class warfare. Then all of a sudden you have a dictator running everything and people are no better off than they were before the great benefactor. Ask the venezuelans how that is working for them.
I hate to say it but BOTH parties caused it!
Wake up, America.
Yeah, I could live without the parties myself..(sm)
The problem though is that when you talk about just issues, then the same lines (party lines) will be drawn. You will never get everyone to agree with you, and until everyone is willing to go to the middle (which will never happen), we can forget the having no parties deal. I think differing opinions are good and are what make sites like this interesting. It makes everyone look at both sides, whether or not they like it. Yeah, I'm sarcastic and will argue till the cows come home on some issues, but I'm obviously enjoying it or I (like everyone else) wouldn't still be here...LOL.
Difference in political parties
DEMOCRATIC
You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
You feel guilty for being successful.
Barbara Streisand sings for you.
REPUBLICAN
You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
So?
SOCIALIST
You have two cows.
The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.
COMMUNIST
You have two cows.
The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
You wait in line for hours to get it.
It is expensive and sour.
CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows.
You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.
BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows.
Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain.
AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.
You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses.
Your stock goes up.
FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike because you want three cows.
You go to lunch and drink wine.
Life is good.
JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains.
Most are at the top of their class at cow school.
GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an hour.
Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.
ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows but you don't know where they are.
While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman.
You break for lunch.
Life is good.
RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have some vodka.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You have some more vodka.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.
TALIBAN CORPORATION
You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which are two.
You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts.
You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons.
IRAQI CORPORATION
You have two cows.
They go into hiding.
They send radio tapes of their mooing.
POLISH CORPORATION
You have two bulls.
Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them.
BELGIAN CORPORATION
You have one cow.
The cow is schizophrenic.
Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish.
The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk.
The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
The cow dies happy.
FLORIDA CORPORATION
You have a black cow and a brown cow.
Everyone votes for the best looking one.
Some of the people who actually like the brown one best accidentally vote for the black one.
Some people vote for both.
Some people vote for neither.
Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow.
CALIFORNIA CORPORATION
You have millions of cows.
They make real California cheese.
Only five speak English.
Most are illegals.
Arnold likes the ones with the big udders
Difference in political parties
DEMOCRATIC
You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
You feel guilty for being successful.
Barbara Streisand sings for you.
REPUBLICAN
You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
So?
SOCIALIST
You have two cows.
The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.
COMMUNIST
You have two cows.
The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
You wait in line for hours to get it.
It is expensive and sour.
CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows.
You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.
BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows.
Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain.
AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.
You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses.
Your stock goes up.
FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike because you want three cows.
You go to lunch and drink wine.
Life is good.
JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains.
Most are at the top of their class at cow school.
GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an hour.
Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.
ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows but you don't know where they are.
While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman.
You break for lunch.
Life is good.
RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have some vodka.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You have some more vodka.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.
TALIBAN CORPORATION
You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which are two.
You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts.
You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons.
IRAQI CORPORATION
You have two cows.
They go into hiding.
They send radio tapes of their mooing.
POLISH CORPORATION
You have two bulls.
Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them.
BELGIAN CORPORATION
You have one cow.
The cow is schizophrenic.
Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish.
The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk.
The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
The cow dies happy.
FLORIDA CORPORATION
You have a black cow and a brown cow.
Everyone votes for the best looking one.
Some of the people who actually like the brown one best accidentally vote for the black one.
Some people vote for both.
Some people vote for neither.
Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow.
CALIFORNIA CORPORATION
You have millions of cows.
They make real California cheese.
Only five speak English.
Most are illegals.
Arnold likes the ones with the big udders
Difference in political parties
DEMOCRATIC
You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
You feel guilty for being successful.
Barbara Streisand sings for you.
REPUBLICAN
You have two cows.
Your neighbor has none.
So?
SOCIALIST
You have two cows.
The government takes one and gives it to your neighbor.
You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage his cow.
COMMUNIST
You have two cows.
The government seizes both and provides you with milk.
You wait in line for hours to get it.
It is expensive and sour.
CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows.
You sell one, buy a bull, and build a herd of cows.
BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE
You have two cows.
Under the new farm program the government pays you to shoot one, milk the other, and then pours the milk down the drain.
AMERICAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You sell one, lease it back to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one.
You force the two cows to produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized and are reducing expenses.
Your stock goes up.
FRENCH CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You go on strike because you want three cows.
You go to lunch and drink wine.
Life is good.
JAPANESE CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You redesign them so they are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times the milk.
They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains.
Most are at the top of their class at cow school.
GERMAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You engineer them so they are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and run a hundred miles an hour.
Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks of vacation per year.
ITALIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows but you don't know where they are.
While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman.
You break for lunch.
Life is good.
RUSSIAN CORPORATION
You have two cows.
You have some vodka.
You count them and learn you have five cows.
You have some more vodka.
You count them again and learn you have 42 cows.
The Mafia shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.
TALIBAN CORPORATION
You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which are two.
You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private parts.
You get a $40 million grant from the US government to find alternatives to milk production but use the money to buy weapons.
IRAQI CORPORATION
You have two cows.
They go into hiding.
They send radio tapes of their mooing.
POLISH CORPORATION
You have two bulls.
Employees are regularly maimed and killed attempting to milk them.
BELGIAN CORPORATION
You have one cow.
The cow is schizophrenic.
Sometimes the cow thinks he's French, other times he's Flemish.
The Flemish cow won't share with the French cow.
The French cow wants control of the Flemish cow's milk.
The cow asks permission to be cut in half.
The cow dies happy.
FLORIDA CORPORATION
You have a black cow and a brown cow.
Everyone votes for the best looking one.
Some of the people who actually like the brown one best accidentally vote for the black one.
Some people vote for both.
Some people vote for neither.
Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which one you think is the best-looking cow.
CALIFORNIA CORPORATION
You have millions of cows.
They make real California cheese.
Only five speak English.
Most are illegals.
Arnold likes the ones with the big udders
You don't need parties for checks and balances
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I'd like to get rid of political parties altogether
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No, IF Bush was Having weekly parties
Remember, secrecy was job #1 in THAT administration.
parties at the White House
President Kennedy http://www.jfklibrary.org/Historical+Resources/Archives/Reference+Desk/The+Kennedy+White+House+Parties.htm
President Clinton http://mediamatters.org/items/200502190003
President Bush http://www.iht.com/articles/2004/12/13/letter_ed3__5.php
And I found many, many more hits - just too many to post!
Ok sorry, Animal House parties - is that better?
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Hey Newton - parties are after hours?
THEIR personal life and they have a household BUDGET.
Maybe she's confusing Obama's parties with.(sm)
the parties held at the Department of Interior under Bush....LOL.
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