You're missing the point. She's not talking about
Posted By: Lonestar on 2008-11-06
In Reply to: Again, you are applying a sterotype... - Just the big bad
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.
When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
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You're missing the point.
Her age dictates his eligibility to run for president. There are lawsuits out now regarding this.
I think you're missing the point...(sm)
World economy, eliminting industries, creating new ones -- all things that can be dealt with.
Extinction of humans -- not so much.
You're missing one crucial point
No where in there did you say that these white evangelical ministers are spouting hatred towards black people, calling them "less than human" or spouting about "black liberation theology" or the teaching of "Dr. James Cone".
Now if our "white preachers" were to go on and on about "white theology" and if our websites said "a white congregation" we would be immediately portrayed as racist. But it's okay for the United Trinity Church of Christ (Obama's church or former church, whatever) to have all over their website that they are a BLACK church. See for yourself:
http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=27
So I take it a white person walking in there wouldn't be very welcome?
Talk about racism.
You are missing the point. SM
It is known that Laura Bush was the driver of a car when she was very young in which someone was killed. However, much embellishment to that was made that she was drunk. When I asked for a credible link to that, you simply ignored me. This is not debate. It is throwing wild accusations out there and then refusing to back them up with verifiable data. I liken this to small town gossip, not a lot of truth to it, probably going to hurt someone in the end, but it sure is fun when we are making up stuff. Since you don't care what I think about you, you won't mind if I tell you that you have shot any credibility you still had left. Now, I will adjourn from "your" board and go find some adults to communicate with.
So what is your point - I'm missing it
I read my article a couple times. I'm not seeing what point you are trying to make.
I think every one is just missing the point...
see anyone's view but your own.
This is to what I was referring.
"Like a lot of folks in this state I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them??
Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sitting on their butt. Could you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?????
You are missing the point
It's not what he eats, its the sickening fact that the poster said he is like because he eats what we do.
Yeah, there IS an echo. Please listen before attacking me.
What point are you missing here?
Have you just not read anything? You seem to have inflicted this feeling on yourself. I have said nothing about the working people accepting welfare or food stamps when they have fallen on hard times. No one called you lazy.
I realize you are just too upset to actually read what I am stating and perhaps because of your personal circumstances, you feel you're being attacked, but if you would actual read what I have stated above, I believe you would see the point I talking about.
The point being I am not talking about the working people who through no fault of their own having to accept welfare, food stamps, or any help they can find for themselves or their family. I am talking ONLY about those who DON'T work, have never worked, and do not EVER intend to work receiving all these things you are trying to receive.
Don't you believe you, a person who has actually worked and tried to pay your own way in life, should have these things offered you over someone who has offered nothing productive to this ountry but taking?
Would you rather be turned down medical help or any help in the future because the money just isn't there because we have spent it by the trillions on those who have never even worked a day in their lives? I say to you accept everything offered you. You shouldn't have to have hospitals pull strings for you in the first place; you should be getting medical attention regardless, which is the point you are missing.
Those who NEVER work and are on Medicaid and receive all their care from the government, always get medical attention. Those like yourself who do work are having to struggle to get medical care. What part of that do you not see as unfair?
Looks like it was a point worth missing.
you decide to let us in on what that elusive point might be.
You are missing the entire point. How sad. nm
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I gues I'm missing your point
The whole text seems to actually reiterate the fact that one of the founding principles of the country is freedom of speech, even that which you don't agree with it. This lunatic Phelps is going into a community that is openly "Gay is Okay" with the only intent to cause problems, and the whole article is about the discussion of ways to circumvent Phelp's plans.
I think you should maybe read up more on the activities of Phelps and his group before using him as your poster child as a good Christian. Based on the military's 'Don't Ask/Don't Tell' policy toward gays, Phelps has felt it okay to go to the funerals of soldiers who have died honorably while serving their country in Iraq and proudly waved signs saying their deaths were retribution for the military's condoning of homosexuality. Frankly, even if I was a bible-toting, salvation-seeking, Christian who faints at the mere thought of gay marriage, I'd probably still want to distance myself from Rev. Phelps as much as possible.
I believe you're missing something
I agree with Obama on this. The fight that we should be having (not necessarily the one Dubya got us into) is not with Islam. Much like that lunatic 'Reverend' Phelps does not represent all Christians, the Taliban does not represent all Islam. Unless you're wishing to start the kind of holy war that you are (mistakenly) condemning Islam of waging, you have to learn to differentiate moderate Islam from radical Islam, and accept that our facts that a war should be fought not based on religious beliefs but rather evil deeds.
You're not missing anything! (sm)
And (SURPRISE!) there are no lies.
Gore waited for two years before speaking out about the Bush agenda. On the other hand, Cheney is coming out after about two MONTHS, on a repeated ramage, appearing on every political show that will have him, is sending out his DAUGHTER to parrot his views and, in short, is trying to undermine the Obama administration. Cheney first denied using torture and now is proudly claiming ownership of it.
No lies here. But you obviously already knew that. 
Nicely worded but you are missing an important point
I don't know the history of your posts, but when you suggest: "Democrats/liberals, start your threads, and I will not encroach upon them. I would ask for the same respect from you as I post independently. There will be no need for you to open any of them or to spend half a page piling on. I will respect your threads. Kindly respect others."
You are forgetting at least two things:
1. If we are supposed to NOT be divided as you post toward the end, WHY would you actively ask people with different opinions NOT to respond (encroach) on your threads? Do you want ONLY people who agree with you to respond? Think about that before you answer.
2. Until/unless the moderators CENSOR this board and not allow anyone to post to anything, it's not up to you to tell me or anyone else what they can post, or where. You say in your post: So let's allow both sides to present views, support their candidates, exercise our right to free speech, have diverging opinions.... but telling people not to encroach on your space and vice versa is the antithesis of "allowing both sides to present view... have divergent opinons.
Finally, don't be too sensivive: If someone responds to my post with hate, an insult, etc., I can simply CHOOSE to ignore the post. Choose your battles.
As for me, I have total respect for Senator McCain's *military* experience, but I don't want someone who has voted 90% with the most corrupt 'president' in our history - to be in charge of my America for the next 4+ years. He's not a Maverick, he's a hypocrite and bush minion.
And I think everyone that thinks the issue of his BC is not important is missing the point..
if indeed he was born elsewhere and he is hiding it, what a way to start a presidency. What else will he hide or lie about. JUST have a judge look at your certificate and validate it for EVERYONE, so that we can feel comfortable in knowing.
If you don't listen to Rush, you're not missing much. sm
The Quotable Limbaugh...
On homosexuality: "When a gay person turns his back on you, it's anything but an insult - it's an invitation. The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit."
On the homeless: "One of the things I want to do before I die is conduct the Homeless Olympics. The 10-meter Shopping Cart Relay, the Dumpster Dig, and the Hop, Skip and Trip."
On NAFTA: "If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people--I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs, let the kinds of jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
![](http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/pundits/rush-limbaugh/rushy.gif") On Native Americans: "There are more American Indians alive today than there were when Columbus arrived or at any other time in history. Does this sound like a record of Genocide?"
On feminism: "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream. Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along."
On feminazis: "Militant feminists are pro-choice because it's their ultimate avenue of power over men... It is their attempt to impose their will on the rest of society, particularly on men."
On corporate layoffs: "Why is it that whenever a corporation fires workers, it's never speculated that the workers might have deserved it?"
On Kurt Cobain: "Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, was a worthless shred of human debris."
Speculating as to how a Mexican won the New York marathon: "An immigration agent chased him for the last 10 miles."
talking point #1
Dems have had congress since 2006.
The posts on this board remind me of the joke about prisoners yelling out "Number 13!" Everyone laughs because they have all heard the same jokes so many times. The prisoners decided just to number all the jokes and yell out the number instead of repeating the joke over and over.
Hence, this Dems have controlled congress since 2006 will be deemed #1.
Liberal talking point for the day
Pro-war. Tell all the little neocons they are pro-war because they want victory in Iraq. You're so transparent.
Point taken, although I was not talking just about SCHIP...
I was talking about any government administered health plan. You can choose to ignore the VA system or Canada's government controlled health plan if you want to....I choose not to. With that being said...no more on government health care.
guess another talking point
Obama wants to talk to terrorists is down the drain. SP just wants to give speeches to them telling them how important they are.
I don't know what you're talking about.
But I find it funny that you throw out a bunch of words and suddenly your friend below accepts them as fact.
I'm being investigated? Fine. Investigate away. I have nothing to hide.
If you're talking about....sm
McCain, he has said he doesn't believe in torture, and I have doubts he would use it on anyone else, especially since it was used on him.
Hey, that's me you're talking about....LOL (sm)
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), religion does have an influence on politics. So when we start talking about abortion, for example, you really can't talk about the issue without talking about religion. For me, the idea of religion being brought up on this board is not the issue. The issue is that people seem to have little tolerance of other religions (or the lack thereof).
Thank you for answering her post with a liberal talking point. :-) nm
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No idea what you're talking about -
...except the person who posted whatever it was on the conservative board, so why don't you take it up with that person ON THE CONSERVATIVE BOARD? You sure give yourself a lot of license coming here to bash everyone else over it, as if that's some kind of excuse.
Looks like the NeoCons are getting bored talking to each other...have to come here to troll instead. Had to happen!
I don't know if you're talking about my post or not.
I think the subject line that All Americans Deserve to Live (or something like that).
I see that my post is gone, and if mine is the post you're referring to, I'm sorry. I can't repost it. It was just something I quickly wrote from my heart, and I didn't keep a copy of it.
I guess I'll have to start saving a copy of everything I write. :-(
Sure sounds like you're talking about yourselves here, you two....nm
It's okay to glom on and bully down the republicans, be it the candidates or posters. But let one do it to you, and you cry foul, like the hypocrites you are.
Every description you use to define the right, sounds a lot like your libby posts. How ironic. Right in front of your nose, and you can't even see yourself.
So sorry for your small, closed mindedness.
I'm guessing you're talking about
the old fart, right? That's all he does. He doesn't care about our country. He only cares about being in power, why...I can't figure out. He'd be the second worst in history, BUSH first. Remember when you voted for BUSH? HaHaHaHa...Oh, not really. Look where we are now.
Don't have a clue what you're talking about so
Quran Surah 4: Women
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 89
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.
Quran Surah 5: The Table Spread
Christians will be burned in the Fire. 72
Quran Surah 6: The Cattle
Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 125
Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 128
Surah 9: Repentance
Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 113
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 123
As much as Christians are harshly put down on this board, my God does not teach me to fight disbelievers, to not pray for them, to ignore idolators (not even for your family?), which would be the very ones we would want to pray for.
Also, my God does not purposefully lead people astray so he can them burn them in hell.
Basically, Muslims are taught to love other Muslims; otherwise, everyone else are nonbelievers and are not worthy of their love.
you're talking to the wrong sm --
Yes - they're already talking about the possibility
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You have no idea what you're talking about...(nm)
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Don't you realize who you're talking to?
These type of people have no loyalty to this country. They just don't get "free people". They have never gotten what it means to be in a country where they have freedoms other countries don't have and they never will.
They are so wrapped up in their own lives, they will never get the big picture. Just like with this president. They will sing his praises for the next 4 years even if he took every freedom they have away because they won't admit he is taking this country down the wrong path..... that's because country doesn't mean anything to them; the "party" is all they see and for some, the fact we have a black man for president is all they care about. Either way, it's very sad for us all.
I didn't like a lot of things Bush didn't do while in office... closing our borders for starters, so more moochers won't crawl, the crime rate wouldn't skyrocket, and our prisons wouldn't be full of still more freeloading moochers I have to pay for for years to come. The fact that he didn't pardon the border patrol agents sickens me. There is no excuse for that.
So, for those who are stuck on "party" lines instead of what is best for their country, they will pull this country down. The fact that poster thinks it's a good thing to keep "free speech" silenced is frightening. Those people are what's wrong with this country!
You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You obviously don't know a thing about Britain in the 1930s, when Hitler was coming into power. Britain banned Winston Churchill and wouldn't let him speak in the house of parliamant, because he was speaking the truth about what Germany was doing to the Jewish people, and they didn't want to hear it! Well, we all know what happened there!
This whole thing started with Jacqui Smith..... because of ALL the violence in Muslim neighborhoods and all the Muslim leaders in Great Britain inciting hate and violence, she was to compile lists of Muslims who incite violence around the world with a call to jihad and make sure no more of these types of people can get into Great Britain. Well, they were on the right track there until of course politics got in there and someone convinced her they didn't want to seem to have a problem with Muslims, so they thought it best to throw in a couple of white guys so it wouldn't look so "profilish".
Speaking of hate-mongers, they have lots of muslims standing in their streets threatening violence to Britain and the United States, standing right in the streets of Great Britain big as you please incisting violence. Now that Britain has realized what a mistake it is to have them in their country and just what evil people they are, they are seeking to get them out and at the very least, keep anymore from getting in their country.
Too bad they didn't go after Rev. WRight....now there's a violent man inciting hate and violence if ever I saw one!!!
Kim Jong II isn't on that list. Chavez the sicko isn't on that list.
There are British people in the streets calling for the overthrow of their own government and for good reason! Their government has turned into just what this country is turning into. Butt kissing sissies!!!
Remember Abu Izzadeen? The race hate preacher? I doubt you have a clue who I'm talking about, cause you know nothing about anything, just diarrhea of the mouth. Izzadden PRAISED the July 7 London suicide bombings in the streets, and has been freed after spending barely serving 12 months of a 4-1/2 year sentence!! I believe his words were, "The Americans and British only understand one lanuage, the language of blood". He has called for ALL UK Muslims to kill British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. But I suppose YOU no doubt find him more appealing than Savage. Now THERE'S a hate monger...no... there's an evil human being. He now walks the streets of London again, spewing his inciteful hate and in full view trying to encourage all Muslims in London to KILL Britains and Americans.
Yep, you got it all figured out. Britiain is scared to death; their own police won't even go into Muslims neighborhoods because the violence is just THAT bad!!!
They're a bunch of sissy wimps who have now found themselves stuck with very evil people by the thousands in their own backyards and now they are regretting it!!!
Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
You sound like a blithering boob just parroting what the Huffington Post told you.
It's quite obvious you didn't check your facts, or do a moment's worth of research.
Unfortunately, you're talking to ignorant people!
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We're talking history here, not theology....nm
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Wow, they squeezed every Democratic talking point in that article. Congrats. How is this helpful?
So what, you're 80, 90 years old and know this? Previous poster talking about...sm
Joseph Kennedy back in the 1940s and 1950s, some 60-70 years ago, and what he did and didn't do? It's all in the history books.
Maybe Teddy is like that today and pays for nothing (doubt that, but hey, you say live there, whatever), really don't care for him much at all, what with Chappaquiddick (sp?) and all, and how daddy Kennedy got young Teddy off on murder charges on that poor girl, Mary Jane Kopechne. Daddy Kennedy called in favors for that one, too, doncha know.
It's well known how much daddy Kennedy did for JFK way back then, to get him elected. It's called history.
We're talking about a brand new baby born with Down's...there is NO comparison at all...nm
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Nope, never said I wasn't black, but I remember the argument you're talking about...sm
Nan, Military Brat and Bush supporter took me to task over whether or not I was black when I said *and who said I was black anyway* I'm trying to find this in archives.
But, what I can't stand is people having a preformed opinion about how I am going to think or should think since I'm black, that's why I don't post my race. Once I posted that I was African American that's when they started the *I thought you said you weren't black.* Which I have never denied my race. Sorry, but not true.
I think you're right, up to a point.
"Shambles" is probably somewhat extreme, but I've seen the pieces that you're reading using the word.
Without any question, the Republican Party lost its sense of direction in recent years. And, without any question, it will take time to repair the damage that has done. And, without any question, the very best people in the world to help us do this - who are already helping us do this, in fact - are Mr. Obama, Ms. Pelosi and the Democrats in Congress. The more blunders they make, the more arrogant they become, the more they ram programs down the throats of Americans, and the more they pile the burden for the cost of all of this insanity on the average American - well, the better it is for all opposition parties.
You might be loving the drunken party at the moment, but watch out for the morning after.
I guess we're going to have another 9/11 to prove our point
because your little mind doesn't even remember the first one. You guys need to give it up, because your lilly livered thought processes are losing. Nobody wants you all in charge that's why you keep LOSING ELECTIONS...that's because if you were in charge you would be hugging Muslim terrorists and telling them it's okay and that you understand them.
You can argue semantics of bills all day, but it doesn't make the fact of the dying liberal theology any less of a reality.
See? You're proving the very point made about
right wing rage. Sure hope you and your fanatic friends don't all own guns......
Good point, if you're going to support something, you should be able to look at it (sm)
and still think you're right, right?
You're obviously one who has missed his entire point
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I think you are saying the same thing. No need to argue when you're making the same point...nm
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what am i missing?
i went to links, and i don't see it, just about the underground facility that the govn't has that i've known about forever...concentration camps???
The link is still missing. nm
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some of it is missing, not just the pics.
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Link is missing LVMT...nm
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