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Yes, I did see the movie- and you are absolutely correct!!

Posted By: westcoastMT on 2008-12-24
In Reply to: Ever see Erin Brockovich movie? - Hexavalent chromium is the same toxin (sm)




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That is absolutely correct...(sm)

Look it up.  People who recieve food stamps are poor.  Money in the hands of the poor and lower class means that they will SPEND it, whether it's in the form of money or food stamps.  That's why it has the best return for the dollar.  The tax cuts the pubs are proposing are for the wealthy (not the average American) and will be less likely spent. 


As I've said NUMEROUS times on here, we have tried tax cuts again and again and again, and it has yet to be effective in stimulating the economy.  It's like trying to run through a brick wall.  I've tried it 3 or 4 times, have a serious concussion, but hey, lets try it again. 


The whole problem with the economy right now (besides the housing and banking issues) is that people either do not have the money to spend or are not spending the money they have.  That means we have a SPENDING deficit.  So yes, food stamps are a very effective and quick way of getting that spending started again, unlike tax cuts.


On top of that, all the economists I have seen talk about this have already said they think the whole stimulus package, if anything, needs to be larger.  So, what do pubs do?  They take out spending (which is the whole point of the bill) and replace it with tax cuts, thereby making the spending portion of the bill SMALLER.  This is nothing but partisanship from the pubs.  They are so determined to have a say in this thing and stick to their Reaganomics philosophy (which has been proven to be ineffective) that in the process they are doing nothing but crippling the effectiveness of a package meant to help the American people. 


If this thing passes as it is now with about half of it being tax cuts, don't be surprised when we have to turn around and do it again because the bill didn't have enough spending in it.


You are absolutely correct. nm
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Absolutely correct.......
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You're absolutely correct, Sam.
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Unfortunately, you're absolutely correct.
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Your last paragraph is absolutely correct.

The UN is definitely weak. It could be because of some of the countries that belong to it have the same ideas as Iran and NK.


I wonder when the UN is going to pay up on their lease for the NY building they occupy. Probably never because they think they are above reproach.


New movie...
out on Edward R. Murrow and his taking McCarthy on. I have seen a couple of clips where he says, journalists are supposed to maintain impartiality, but Senator McCarthy, enough is enough. The movie is unapologetically one-sided (ours) but even so, wouldn't it be wonderful to have some real journalists working for real editors whose companies are not owned by 1 conservative conglomerate and who have real freedom of speech.
I did see this movie!
It was a long time ago, I think I probably saw it after it came out on video. She was a huffer too, right? I just may have to get it again. I do remember it being rather funny and witty. I like her (Laura Dern), she chooses interesting roles doesn't she?
have you even seen that movie??
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That is ONE movie
ONE, ONLY ONE... What happened to all the "oh so many movies" made about the killings of homosexuals. AND Matthew Shepherd was killed because he was trying to rob his killers. They were punished and well they should have been.


Consider that according to the latest FBI statistics, out of 1.4 million violent crimes in 2007; there were a mere 247 cases of aggravated assault (including five deaths) reportedly motivated by the victim's sexual orientation or gender identity. There is zero evidence to suggest that, where appropriate, perpetrators were not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law in every instance.
The movie No End In Sight...Thank you Kam!! s/m
Netflix has a two week completely free trial period, which I signed up for the other day.  One of the movies I looked for was No End In Sight. It can be sent via mail or instant access on your PC which is also included in the free trial. I decided tonight to view it on my pc. All I can say about the film is that I was completely rivited by it from beginning to end. It is truly an exceptional film. I had seen Fahrenheit 911 a few years ago, and was not really that impressed with it.  I cannot say that about this film. It was exceptional! Many thanks Kam for the recommendation about No End In Sight!!
Allow me to recommend a movie s/m

Citizen Ruth (1996) Starring Laura Dern   In this satirical look at the abortion issue, Ruth Stoops (Laura Dern), an unfit mother of four, discovers while in jail that she's pregnant again. The judge charges her with endangering the fetus, but tells her in confidence that he'll reduce the charges if she has an abortion. When word of this gets out, Ruth gets caught in the middle of a tug-of-war between Pro-Lifers and Pro-Choicers who want to use Ruth to get their messages across.


If you have a good sense of humor you will definitely enjoy this movie.!


"We have seen this movie before...
it's called Hugo Chavez and Venezuela." PERFECT comeback. And I got blasted for suggesting there were liberals in Congress who wanted to nationalize oil. So I will say it again...far left liberals like Maxine Waters, Barack Obama, Ted Kennedy to name a few...ARE socialists, just more sneaky about it...until she just got ticked and blurted it out. We better ALL hope they don't go there. That is the danger of voting in socialists. Good-bye America, hello Venezuela.
horror movie
Just because Farrakhan calls Obama the 'messiah' does not mean that anyone who may consider voting for him calls him that as well.  Actually I find the term blasphemous (no matter WHO it comes from), and I know that with the intelligent people who post their opinions here could not be that narrow minded.  As far as a 'horror movie' - the last eight years of our lives has indeed been that; unfortunately it is all too real and many have suffered because of it.  Greedy politicians and their ilk have been robbing us blind even before anyone knew who Obama was, and for Lord knows for how long we will CONTINUE to suffer because we have been so complacent and passive.  Pitiful.
You have to see the movie Dave!
It's about a guy that looks like the President and when the real President has a heart attack while with his mistress, he gets hired to pretend to be the President. He then starts making all these changes - including a terrific budget-cutting scene you'll just love! Great, great movie.
I dunno. Ever see that movie...something about....
soylent green? LOL.
There's a movie on TV right now, called....sm
"Mortal Storm."


The movie begins on the night that Hitler was appointed as chancellor in 1933.


There are a lot of parallels between then....and now.




That's all I'll say.


Waterboarding! Have you seen the movie, TAKEN?
Obama's little girls were taken or any other government offical's kids were taken, there would be no hesitation and would definitely use waterboarding.

Oh wait! Obama would rather reason? Ha, ha.
Petty? Why not to a movie, but
Double-standards, Obama's way.
They may not get a distributor, but this movie will have no fluff in it...sm

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/last_man_out_of_wtc_regionalnews_philip_recchia.htm


Alex Jones at the White House:  Come out with your hands up.


 


 


Great movie! I saw it last year...
I highly recommend those who haven't seen it to do so. It is a real eye opener. For those that have always thought there was something fishy going on the in the car/fuel story it is great affirmation, and for those who never realized it, it will make a believer out of you!
No End in Sight (movie about Iraq war)

I haven't seen the movie yet, but it comes out on DVD on October 30th, and I will definitely be renting it.  Here is the trailer.


http://noendinsightmovie.com/


If you only watch 1 movie this year...

it should be No End In Sight.  I started a thread below about the movie, but that was before it had come out on DVD, and I had not seen it yet.  I watched it tonight, and it was beyond informative.  It features interviews with "high ranking officials such as former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, Ambassador Barbara Bodine (in charge of Baghdad during the Spring of 2003), Lawrence Wilkerson, former Chief of Staff to Colin Powell, and General Jay Garner (in charge of the occupation of Iraq through May 2003) as well as Iraqi civilians, American soldiers, and prominent analysts."


I learned so much that I have never seen featured on any news program, and the information is coming directly from the "horse's mouth."  I don't believe that even the most die-hard Bush supporter will find much in the way of inaccurate facts, as much of the information is coming directly from people who were actually a part of the Bush Administration.  If you are at all interested, I urge you to click on the link below, which is the site for the movie.  Then click on "MEDIA" to the right of your screen to see some very eye-opening clips from the movie.


Scene from the movie Network. sm
This is old, but whoever made this movie knows what is up. This is one of the best scenes I have seen in a movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90ELleCQvew&feature=related
This is what you want? It's like watching a horror movie

This is enough the scare the you know what out of me.  If Obama wins you can expect more rallies like this.  BTW - Farrakhan calls Obama the messiah.  Warning - very creepy (almost like someting I'd see in a horror movie)


http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE


 


Memorable movie quote
I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What god desires is here (points to head) and here (points to heart) and what you decide to do every day, you will be a good man - or not.
Ever see Erin Brockovich movie?
involved in the $333 million judgement (the largest settlement ever paid in a US direct action lawsuit) she and her attorney boss (I forget his name) gained on behalf of the residents of Hinkley CA when they found it in that community's drinking water.
Big Box Mart - JibJab movie - funny

See link


It gets worse.. -Money for Hollywood movie
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New Movie Out.. Not just Clueless but Totally Clueless
starring gt as the whining liberal elitist with the chihuahua.
You are correct
the thing is we can find common ground with people who we don't always agree with 100%.  Blair tends to be more socialistic, but he is unified in the fact that terrorism is the worst threat to our world right now, and we have to stop it at all costs.  Social agendas come second to him.  Safety is 1st.  
You are correct
I'm sure there are some wonderful people in Iran!! You included. It's good that you can the government is scary though. Here are some words from Iranian president AhMADinejad from just yesterday...

Ahmadinejad warned the West that trying to force it to abandon uranium enrichment would cause an everlasting hatred in the hearts of Iranians.

From your comments it sounds as if this a false statement since you love America. You of all people I'm sure appreciates America!!


Yes, of course you are correct

However, my post topic was literally just a couple posts below yours and it seemed unlikely that you would have not noticed the duplication in monikers.  This board may indeed be available world-wide, however, there is a fairly small group of folks who routinely post.


My point was simply that your posting may have erroneously led folks to believe that I was posting both pro and anti-liberal messages within a few posts of each other.  That would be rather confusing to say the least and it would be thoughtless to confuse and/or mislead anyone who might be using this board, whether in the U.S. or outside of the U.S. 


You are correct about the $40K....
that is the SCHIP program as it has been over the past 10 years (although income levels have gone up some from the start of it). The expansion of the program was to include the $80K families. This bill was about expansion of the program. Letting the program continue as it was was not the issue. The expansion was the issue. Bush would not have vetoed it if they had not sought to expand it that much. They knew he would veto it if they left that in, and they wanted him to veto it to score political points. That I do not understand. Yes, some Republicans voted for it too, also for political reasons, so if the fallout was really bad they could come back and say "Oh i voted FOR it." Kinda like the Iraq war resolution...lots of Dems voted for it...yada yada.
I want to correct myself on the above...
I was wrong about the poverty level. The figure quoted for a family of four at 300% of the poverty line is $62,000 so he was close on that. However, the bill does not state those people over that level will not get on it. It says the matching rate from the feds might not be available. Then we have the EXCEPTION...the waiver. That opens the door for New York and every other state who wishes to, to expand the program as high as they want to go. That is what Bush was talking about. The waiver makes it possible, and not only possible, probable.

Just wanted to be sure my facts were correct.

Thanks.
Yes you are 100% correct!!!

By george you are right!!!  EVERY SINGLE POSTER ON THIS BOARD IS ME!!!!!!  Except for Observer, of course, and a few old American Girl postings!  I admit it, I am guilty, you have caught me.  I have authored every single post you read on here.  It keeps me very very busy but it's worth it!!!


There I have "fessed up and I feel sooooooooo much better.  Whew!  Thank you Observer for helping me to do the right thing.


You are correct - however, you were the one...
Yes, you are correct, a lot of people don't give middle names second thoughts, and certainly there is nothing to worry about when mentioning his name in full, but when you smear it like its a dirty word, I call that a dirty shame. I was simply stating why don't you say Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton or John Sydney McCain, no you don't, therefore it seems when people don't treat one candidate equal to the other they are up to something. I have no problem with his middle name. I think its a beautiful name. I also think Sydney is a beautiful name.. Second just because someone posts a long post does not mean they copy from other articles. I happened to write the post myself, however, if you would like a much longer one there are plenty that I can copy and paste from - just let me know....happy to oblige. :-)
Correct!
Strange how it's permissible to spread all kinds of rumors about McCain but off limits to mention the facts about Obama's past and present associates, such as the Reverend whose sermons he claimed he never heard.
Sam would be correct
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You are correct and I think you are going to see it...
more and more as this campaign goes on. I think it has finally happened. The slumbering lion is waking up. :)
I am sure you are correct, but please,
be specific as me was.
Well.....if you are correct in

assuming that she and her husband aren't working their butts off....at least she isn't living beyond her means regardless of how many hours she works.  At least she doesn't want a handout from the government and money given to her that she hasn't earned.  There are people making as much as she does a year and are well beyond their means with toys, cars, homes, etc.  Crying that they are victims and requesting a handout. 


The most disgusting thing that I have ever seen was during Christmas.  Every year my church does an angel tree.  Every year I would take names of children and their ages and their interest and go out and buy them gifts so they would have something for Christmas.  I wanted to help.  What kid doesn't deserve a nice Christmas....ya know.  So I went out and spent a lot of money on these kids.  Come to find out....these kids weren't poor.  Their parents drove newer and more expensive cars than I drove.  The parents were only out for a free handout....and that sickens me.  I felt used.  I so wanted to help people who really needed help.  Not people who were just looking for a free handout come Christmas time. 


Unfortunately you are correct. s/m

Unions don't have any clout anymore thanks to the Reagan years.  Without the ability to strike, what can they do?  While my husband, as a retiree, has excellent benefits, it is something that is not available to workers retiring now and in the future.  Fact is, we are worried that his benefits may be cut.  They have raised the retirement age and will have to pay more for their medical insurance.  Why?  Because they have lost members.  People who worked at CF with my husband and weren't of retirement age for the most part had to take non-union jobs which paid far less causing many of them to lose their homes and file bankruptcy.  Did anyone hear about them?  I guess not.  That was in 2001 and truckers are worse off today than they were then as are most American workers.


People have let the unions that people fought for go down the tubes.  American workers bought into the "unions have outlived their usefulness, aren't needed any more" from the Reagan years.  Unhuh and we see how much the employers care about their employees now.  Unions are no different than politics.  They are no better or worse than the people who support them.  Basically the clout of the unions came from people that had the fortitude to stand up for their rights and stand together.  Unfortunately we don't have that any more, it's more like, "I've got mine, sorry about you."


Unfortunately, since McCain says Reagan is his hero, I expect if he is elected the American workers can expect to be further shafted.  JMO of course.


You are correct on that one.
Consider that the tax issue will have to pass Congress unless my memory fails me.  I would say middle-class is more like $80,000 to $150,000, depending on whether you fall at the lower or upper end.  As I understand it what Obama is seeking to do is do away with Bush's tax cuts, which WILL affect just about everyone.  The tax cuts, as many of Bush's policies, was a bad idea in the beginning.  Now because of his poor management of the economy EVERYONE is going to pay more taxes and many of those free loaders we talk about may get told to get to work as they should be.  Obama's plan appears to be to be nothing more than rolling back Bush's ill advised tax cuts in the first place.
You are correct..........sm
Arnold can run for Senate (provided he has his citizenship papers in order, and I believe he probably does. Not sure what the laws are in Kollyfawnya.) but he could never run for the POTUS or VPOTUS.
you are correct..it's still that way,
born and raised there, it doesn't change.
You are 100% correct. n/m
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I would say you are correct
Is anyone really so ignorant that they think that if there was anything illegal about Obama's run for the presidency, that HILLARY first would not have exposed it?  Certainly if she didn't McCain would have.  Why do you suppose THEY let it go?  Because it wasn't going to bear any fruit for them, that's why.
M is correct below - no, they did not
Bush gave his acceptance speech (like everyone does) then had respect for Clinton to finish out his term. Even though Clinton was a disaster too, Bush had the decency to wait until he was sworn in. I do remember hearing about who he was picking for cabinet members but he never held the press conferences that OMessiah is. Also, Clinton did not either. He too had respect for Bush Sr. This is just something you don't do. It is very disrespectful no matter how much you don't like or disagree with the outgoing president. You DON'T do it. They are not president yet and as far as I know the electorates have not even voted yet. So it is still not "cinched" that he is going to get in there. I do believe however he is giving so many press conferences (as many as he can get his face on the camera for) because can you imagine the outcry if the electorates do not vote him in. He's already preparing people to riot if he does not get elected. My take is that the more he gets his face on the camera, the more the idi@ts will believe he is already president. Then it puts pressure on the electorates and others that still have not voted him in yet that if they do anything to disrupt this there will be he!! for them to pay. O'Messiah knows what he's doing alright, but it doesn't make it right.
That is correct, but....(sm)
the middle man (the stores) get a share of that.  As far as computers go, a lot of the components are made overseas, but there are some places here where they put them together.  Then you have companies like Intel, who make computer chips, who have decided to move their stuff back to the US.  Hopefully more will follow.
Correct
I do stand corrected. Thank you.