Yeah, baby. Excellent article.
Posted By: nm on 2008-12-17
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This is an excellent article.
This guy has his finger on the pulse of the majority of Americans.
Thanks for posting it.
Excellent article. (nm)
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Excellent article!!! Thanks, sam!
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Excellent article
This is from below.
http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/barack-the-black-hitler/
That was an excellent article
I actually read that yesterday (thanks to DH). There are too many scientists all over the world who have been researching and studying and trying to educate the people that we are not in global warming, we are on our way to an ice age. The guy who owns the weather channel is suing AL Gore, and even Ariana Huffington (a liberal) is demanding an apology for the climate hysteria Gore has caused.
Al Gore is making money hands down over this false "global warming" crap he's pulled. It still astounds me that people will listen to him (Al Gore, who has never had any formal training in what he spews - and is no scientist) and they will disregard what the scientists and people who are trained and really know what's happening. Nobel prize for Al Gore - goess to show you what money can buy.
yeah baby, WHAT IF?
Big flipping deal.
Excellent article that is spot on !! nm
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Excellent article - (see message)
The dots are so clear to connect. This is exactly what most of us fear, but it's out of our hands now. We can only hope history will not repeat itself in this case. I think a lot will depend on who he picks for his cabinet members, however, so far it doesn't look that great.
Speaking of Nazi germany, when we were in the service my grandparents came over to visit and we took them to the Dachau concentration camp. My grandather was one of the first soldiers to help the prisoners leave the camp. He said they gave them food, but his commander made them all get drunk before they went to Dachau he said because the conditions were so horrible he knew a lot would not be able to stomach it once they arrived if they were sober. My grandfather said his commander was correct. He said the conditions were absolutely horrifying. When he walked up to the Dachau camp he had tears in his eyes and said he could see the prisoners faces behind the bars as if it was yesterday.
I have read about the concentration camps/re-education camps here in this country and I truly hope we do not fall under the same demise but one never knows.
Excellent Article! Thanks for posting.
It boils down to the feds weren't forcing bad loans on the banks, the lenders were forcing the bad loans out of greed.
This is an excellent article - thanks for posting
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Yeah and to he** with the baby's rights.
Not a person worthy of my trust. Your trust is yours to give to whoever. Have a nice day.
Excellent article by Jonathan Alter
(Also a good article by Howard Fineman in the same issue, giving some background on Rove).
MSNBC.com
Why The Leak Probe Matters For all the complexities of the Valerie Plame case, this story is about how easy it was to get into Iraq, and how hard it will be to get out.
Newsweek
July 25 issue - Like a lot of President Bush's critics, I supported the Iraq war at first. Because of the evidence on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction laid out by Colin Powell, I agreed that we needed to disarm Saddam Hussein. I even think it's possible that 25 years from now, historians will conclude that the Iraq war helped accelerate the modernizing of the Middle East, even if it doesn't fully democratize it.
But if that happens, Bush might not get as much credit as he hopes, and not just because most historians, as Richard Nixon liked to say, are liberals. Bush may look bad because his leadership on Iraq has been a fiasco. He didn't plan for it: the early decisions that allowed the insurgency to get going were breathtakingly incompetent. He didn't pay for it: Bush is the first president in history to cut taxes during a war, this one now costing nearly $1 billion a week. And most important of all, he didn't tell the American people the truth about it: taking a nation to war is the most solemn duty of a president, and he'd better make certain there's no alternative and no doubt about the evidence.
Why do I mention this now? Because for all of the complexities of the Valerie Plame case, for all the questions raised about the future of investigative journalism and the fate of the most influential aide to an American president since Louis Howe served Franklin D. Roosevelt 70 years ago, this story is fundamentally about how easy it was to get into Iraq and how hard it will be to get out.
We got in because we "cooked" the intelligence, then hyped it. That's why the "Downing Street Memo" is not a smoking gun but a big "duh." For two years we've known that senior White House officials were determined to, in the words of the British intelligence memo, "fix" the intelligence to suit their policy decisions. When someone crossed them, they would "fix" him, too, as career ambassador Joseph Wilson found when he came back from Africa with a report that threw cold water on the story that Saddam Hussein sought yellowcake uranium from Niger.
Was Plame "fair game," as Karl Rove told Chris Matthews? George H.W. Bush didn't think so. Even after Wilson embarrassed the president publicly, Bush Sr. wrote Wilson—whom he had appointed to various ambassadorial posts—to congratulate him for his service and sympathize with him over the outing of his wife. The old man was head of the CIA in the 1970s and knows the consequences of blowing the identities of covert operatives.
But does his son? A real leader wouldn't hide behind Clintonian legalisms like "I don't want to prejudge." Even if the disclosure was unintentional and no law was broken, Rove's confirmed conduct—talking casually to two reporters without security clearances about a CIA operative—was dangerous and wrong. As GOP congressman turned talk-show host Joe Scarborough puts it, if someone in his old congressional office did what Rove unquestionably did, that someone would have been promptly fired, just as the president promised in this case. Scarborough, no longer obligated to toe the pathetic Republican Party line, says it's totally irrelevant if Joe Wilson is a preening partisan who misled investigators about the role his wife played in recommending his Niger trip. The frantic efforts of the GOP attack machine to change the subject to Wilson shows how scared Republicans are that the master of their universe will be held accountable for Rove's destructive carelessness.
To get an idea of how destructive, I talked to Melissa Mahle, a former CIA covert operative turned author whose career parallels Plame's. She explained what happens when someone's cover is blown. It isn't pretty, especially when, like Plame, you have been under "nonofficial cover" (working for a phony front company or nonprofit), which is more sensitive than "official cover" (pretending to work for another government agency). The GOP's spinners are making it seem that because Plame had a desk job in Langley at the time she was outed, she wasn't truly undercover. As Mahle says, that reflects a total ignorance about the way the CIA works. Being outed doesn't just waste millions of taxpayer dollars; it compromises hundreds of other people in the field you may have worked with in the past.
If Bush isn't a hypocrite on national security, he needs, at a minimum, to yank Rove's security clearance. "Whether you do it [discuss the identity of CIA operatives] intentionally or unintentionally, you have not met the requirements of that security clearance," Mahle told me.
The bigger question is what this scandal does to the CIA's ability to develop essential "humint" (human intelligence). Here's where the Iraq war comes in again. The sooner we beef up our intelligence, the sooner we crack the insurgency and get to bring our troops home. What does it say to the people doing the painstaking work of building those spy networks when the identity of one of their own becomes just another weapon in the partisan wars of Washington? For a smart guy, Karl Rove was awfully stupid.
© 2005 Newsweek, Inc.
© 2005 MSNBC.com
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8598301/site/newsweek/
oh yeah baby! pave the way to kick W out.
Bush may have only made one smart decision his whole life, and that was having someone even more evil, twisted, and money hungry than himself be his vice president. Even the harshest Bush critics don't want him impeached because no one wants Cheney, aka the Devil's spawn and the King of Corruption, running things! I don't care if I sound outrageous and mean - I am so sick of the Bush administration's corruption I could just scream - or cry. Their crimes cannot continue! But it's like Bill Maher said, this country has f@!* up fatigue. Our tolerance for the outrageously inappropriate actions of this administration is getting pretty high. Nothing they could do would shock me at this point. blah.
GOPs are gaining - excellent article - see link
Excellent article by D. Morris (who used to be an adviser to Clinton). He hits it right on the head with his assessments. 1.) Obama's poll numbers are not changing but McCain is gaining. 2.) End of July voters trusted the dems to better handle the economy by 11%, now they only trust them by 4%. 3.) Before the convention voters trusted dems to achieve energy independence by 8 points, now it's only a 2 point lead. 4.) When asked who made the smarter VP choice voters said McCain did 50 - 40%.
Key to her popularity is that she understands the average persons problems. Of the question which of the 4 candidates understands the problems of day to day life in America Palin finished first with 33%, Obama second with 32%, McCain with 17, and Biden with 10.
Worst news for Obama is when voters asked who they would consult for advise with the "toughest decision of your life" voters chose McCain over Obama 50-34.
I've been saying all along the Republicans are sweeping the nation. People are seeing through Barack's lies and false hopes. Link to the article is below so you can read for yourselves.
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2008/09/15/gops-gaining/
as a mother I would not subject my baby, or anyone's baby
to that type of situation. but then again, I am not the kind of mother who agrees with the village raising the child, or whatever Hillary used to say. to me the child's safety would come first above and beyond what I was doing, and I would not expose the baby to all that. that is just me.
mostly I am talking about at the end of her speech when the baby was being passed around and then she eventually grabbed him, half paying attention to him.
it is my opinion but I found it a little troubling and my heart kind of went out to that little baby.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta
Each brown place in the link takes you to a different article that supports this article...nm
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So does someone's comment at the end of the article, discredit the whole article??
Unbelievable.
yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
Right on, baby!
Cuz you know, the answer my friend (to all this brouhaha) is blowin' in the wind......
I'm heading out now for a lunch with my Harley-riding, beer-swigging, antique-collecting redneck friend. No kidding!! Strange things can happen in this big ole universe and that's just the way I like it. Actually, he quit drnking beer about 10 years ago, and quit riding the Harley after he went broke trying to sell antiques....but he's still pretty much of a redneck.
Thanks for helping me have a laugh and see some humor where I thought there was none!!
Except for the baby..............
Use the baby in WHAT way? If you want to know why
further than this board full of none other than women, most of whom I presume are MTs and therefore working mothers themselves!! How do you reconcile ripping someone down for being the very thing you are? By criticizing SP or Hillary or any other prominent woman figure who happens to be a mother, you are only applying the exact same things to yourselves, ladies. This has to be one of the most disgusting things I see on here. Take pot shots at her skills or work history, but how can you possibly rip on her for having a career and children? Do you want us all barefoot, pregnant, and waiting on Ward hand and foot again? Grow up. I, for one, am ashamed to be a woman and lumped in with such juvenile BS when I see this nonsense.
I didn't care for Hillary, but I still hailed the fact that she was campaigning. It meant maybe women are finally gaining recognition and respect. Want to know why our wages are less than men's and why every time women make one step forward, they take 2 steps back? It's because the very gender prominent women hope to elevate will attack those women out of jealousy or worse yet, because they don't happen to ascribe to their own set of beliefs. It makes the whole lot of us look petty and ridiculous.
There's a saying, it's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it to the world.
Welcome baby!
I didn't know there was such a thing!
what about the baby's
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okay what about the baby?
Yes, I do believe you should be able to do whatever you decide to your own body so long as others are not endangered in the process.
Well what about baby? Baby isnt endangered in the process. I would called being killed endangered. But I guess you are saying that it isnt a baby yet. I dont get that. A tadpole doesnt look like a frog but it is still a living thing. It just hasnt matured. A caterpillar isnt a butterfly but it is still alive, it just hasnt matured. So a fetus that is developing is still alive, just not matured. So because a fetus doesnt turn into something that looks like a baby in a matter of minutes or hours is okay to kill because it takes a while to mature? The video that you do not want to see shows a 19 week old baby girl. She has red hair. She is fully formed, just tiny. She was aborted by saline. The saline poured all over her body and burned her to death. She has black burn marks all over her little arms and legs and body. She is curled up like a little angle. Are you telling me that she did feel that just because no one could hear her misery? She wasnt a living thing? Sorry, but it is murder and it is wrong. You dont have to even believe in God to understand that.
Such a baby!
You can poke and jab at others and make fun of what they say, but when it turns on you, you are suddenly "better" than everyone else? How so? You act like a little baby who starts a fight and then runs away. Don't play the innocent victim card. Go back and read some of your insulting posts, THAT is the reason people are "ganging up" on you and your superiority. Guess you better "show us" and just go away. Please....
ALWAYS WILL BABY.
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Must have had soy in his baby formula sm
According to an article on World Net Daily:
Soy is making kids 'gay'
Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Jim Rutz
© 2006
There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular.
Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food.
The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore.
(Column continues below)
I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens.
Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally.
In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen.
If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal.
Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual. No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them.
Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal.
Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at any age can lead to a weak thyroid, which commonly produces heart problems and excess fat. Could this explain the dramatic increase in obesity today?
Recent research on rats shows testicular atrophy, infertility and uterus hypertrophy (enlargement). This helps explain the infertility epidemic and the sudden growth in fertility clinics. But alas, by the time a soy-damaged infant has grown to adulthood and wants to marry, it's too late to get fixed by a fertility clinic.
Worse, there's now scientific evidence that estrogen ingredients in soy products may be boosting the rapidly rising incidence of leukemia in children. In the latest year we have numbers for, new cases in the U.S. jumped 27 percent. In one year!
There's also a serious connection between soy and cancer in adults – especially breast cancer. That's why the governments of Israel, the UK, France and New Zealand are already cracking down hard on soy.
In sad contrast, 60 percent of the refined foods in U.S. supermarkets now contain soy. Worse, soy use may double in the next few years because (last I heard) the out-of-touch medicrats in the FDA hierarchy are considering allowing manufacturers of cereal, energy bars, fake milk, fake yogurt, etc., to claim that soy prevents cancer. It doesn't.
P.S.: Soy sauce is fine. Unlike soy milk, it's perfectly safe because it's fermented, which changes its molecular structure. Miso, natto and tempeh are also OK, but avoid tofu.
Speak for you own baby...
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She is not leaving the baby. sm
This is either another Carl Rove bait and switch or McCain is truly demented. As someone else said, "does not pass the smell test".
a Down baby and a pregnant
teenager? Good golly, how many calamities will Mrs. Palin ignore in her own house. I don't want somewhat like that as a heartbeat from running my country.
Down syndrome baby
or 'normal' baby...if the baby did not have Down syndrome no comment would've been made, except "Oh, how cute." I think it was precious the way the baby sister licked her hand and combed the baby's hair. REGULAR PEOPLE.
Achtung baby!
Song title.
A baby costs.....
It was $6,000 in 2002.
$2,500 if you paid cash in advance.
Yes, I could! It is MY baby and MY belly!..nm
and the embroy starts only to live during the 5th month!
Yes, I can, I would have a calmer conscience than knowing that my child is out there somewhere, in the hands of strangers, not knowing HOW they are treating him/her.
I prefer to give it back to God, before it starts to live!
My embryo is MY embryo and it is not COMMON property.
YES, I COULD.
And don't ever forget it, baby. Believe
someone around to remind you, YES YOU DID!
My baby sister (in her 50s) says
Obama speaks 'real elegant' and also told me prior to the election that he does not use notes because he has a 'photogenic memory.' This is the sister who dropped out of high school and stays tuned to the MSM 24/7. Love her, but sometimes I need subtitles when we speak. Sort of like listening to comedian Norm Crosby (if anyone else is old enough to remember him.)
Poor baby...(sm)
Using the term "teabaggers" is rude? I shouldn't ridicule others with different beliefs? Give me a break. You guys have consistently ridiculed anyone who agrees with Obama time and time again on this board, as well as those who just don't agree with you. Rude? How about Kool-Aid drinkers, Obamatrons.....you know the list.
The problem with you is that you can dish it out but can't take it. If you plan on teabagging effectively you might want to consider growing a pair.
Not sure how this 'anchor baby' law
came to be, but a whole family can stay in this country if they can manage to have a baby here.
In little baby steps it is happening. sm
I call myself a Republican in recovery. Sooner or later, I hope the sheep stop sleeping or God bless them or us all. Remember Always stand on principle, even if you stand alone. John Quincy Adams
I heard she did not have a baby, but her 16-year-old
daughter did. The daughter missed the last 4-5 months of school.
That baby sure was QUIET throughout that whole noisy
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really, how many people held the baby, 4?
The middle sister, Cindy McCain, the father, and the youngest daughter?
OMG HOW HORRIBLE!!!
Have you ever thought maybe she wanted a baby
My cousin at 16 wanted a baby. Her parents tried talking her out of it. Explained what her life would be like. Told her about safe sex, birth control, etc. She still got pregnant and had a beautiful baby and she's a good mother. My other cousin (her sister) wanted a baby. Again my aunt and uncle talked to her. At 17 she had her baby and she is a wonderful mother.
So think people....it is possible her daughter wants a baby. Especially if all of her friends are having babies.
don't toss out baby with bathwater...
I'm a right-wing, Bible-reading, family-values person and Republican, maybe even could be considered fire and brimstone, definitely fundamental, and yet am NOT intolerant, not racist, not even Bible "thumping". So let's not be intolerant and generalizing. Radical right or radical left are still radical, and not representative of the whole. savy??
Oh well, life ain't fair baby...
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Gitmo was Bush's baby......
That pile of feces just exited the building - you get over it. The people held in Gitmo did not blow up the USS Cole. Christ.
Baby steps is the key to success!
President Obama knows exactly what he is doing. He knows it won't happen overnight, and he knows it is not always going to please everyone, but he know that it must be done!
This so reminds me of one of those baby books
people put together for their first kid. Video of the delivery. Baby's handprint and footprint. Lock of hair from Baby's first haircut. Picture of Baby taking his first step. First tooth Baby loses, and on and on and on.....
What's the followup plan for the 200th day and the 300th? I'd like to pencil this on my calendar.
AHEM - MY BABY HAD NO BRAIN. sm
It was totally 100% incompatible with life, so don't give me that bull**t about the health vs murder argument.
You are a cold-hearted SOB if you think I aborted for any other reason.
How many of you would leave your 4-month-old special-needs baby to run for VP? nm
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