Yeah, and the "honest" response from Obama
Posted By: is all that matters... and scary.nm on 2008-10-17
In Reply to: Guess that part about the economy went right over your head. - As for Joe the plumber and O's camp...sm
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There was nothing about Obama's response
"upset" dems, since it was totally consistent with what he had been saying all along and with what was posted up on his website. Being questioned like that at a rally was also status quo par for the course. The rub came when it was discovered just how disingenuous Joe the unlicensed was being when he presented himself as a bona fide plumber interested in buying his boss's business...apparently NOT, as we can all observe from his behavior subsequent to the episode.
When the details of his own financial situation emerged, he became a legitimate subject of viable political debate, since he falls into the category of citizens that would most benefit from Obama's tax plan and other policies yet, like many, many other republicans, he is simply too stupid to realize it. The more the pub party tried to elevate his status, the more stupid he appeared and thus, he became the fodder for much criticism and the subject of many late night comedy routines, a status which he truly earned.
I see the Obama supporters have no response to
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the response didn't come from an obama supporter
If you're referring to my response to the OP about scraping the bottom of the barrel. FYI I'm voting for McCain.
That's all you've got in response to that fabulous tax break of Obama's for MOST OF US? nm
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Obama's response to Palin family baby stories
Here is Obama's response on all the Palin family stories swirling around. He said he would fire any staffer found to be stoking the fires on these stories. I agree with him 100%:
Politico's Carrie Budoff Brown reports: At a press avail in Monroe, Mich., Barack Obama on Palin: "Back off these kinds of stories."
"I have said before and I will repeat again: People's families are off limits," Obama said. "And people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as a governor and/or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know my mother had me when she was 18 and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics."
Another classy response. I won't say liberal response,
because I don't think you and these pile-on posters are indicative of liberals as a whole. Don't know why they let you speak for them...but that is up to them. Obviously you don't think compassion is a personality trait...obviously you feel that it can be turned on and off to suit your agenda. So be it.
yeah, and Obama isn't qualified to be in the top
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Yeah, that was on the news. Obama almost
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Yeah, I would NEVER trust Obama to be our
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Yeah, and they never seem to try to refute Obama's
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Yeah, how can you vote for Obama? How could you
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Yeah, Biden just knows that Obama needs
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Yeah, and the guy who just endorsed Obama...
that would be Colin Powell, believed that same "bad intelligence" and sold it to the world in the UN. But of course...since he is endorsing Obama...he is absolved of all wrongdoing? LOL, GP. Sorry.
WWJD? J wouldn't vote for a pro-abortion candidate, and I sure don't think J would be walking this earth telling people go ahead and have an abortion because the government shouldn't be in your personal life. Forget the government! Is being a Christian part of your life? If it is, then I don't know how you can vote for Obama or condone abortion in any way, shape, or form.
Killing babies is wrong, it doesn't matter WHO does it. If the mother decides to terminate it, fine. If a man sticks a knife in her belly and kills her and the baby, he is guilty of a double murder. And you can justify that in your mind...how? Simply that the mother has the right to kill it and the man didn't? What would J think of that?
Yeah, well, unfortunately, with Obama in office,
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Yeah, isn't Obama the great example for us to
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Yeah, but it was Obama who yammered
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Yeah, and Obama is so darn smart, yet does not
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Yeah, Obama's executive experience
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Yeah, I don't trust Obama's character
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Yeah, I don't care for Obama, but I am not "proud"
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Yeah, even scarier that you will vote for Obama
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Yeah, and Obama used to be ACORN's lawyer
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Yeah, and now put Obama in there to raise taxes
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Yeah, trying to hide Obama's answer, which is the
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Yeah, Obama also keeps changing his definition
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Yeah, what's wrong with that - only stated what Obama
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Yeah, well it would be nice if Obama could find an
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Yeah, think things are bad with Obama? Imagine
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Yeah, and maybe Obama will FIND his birth
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Yeah, that is how Obama got elected. ACORN
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta
Yeah, guess Obama supports refuse to look at all
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Yeah...good thing she isn't debating Obama...
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Yeah those nasty old rich. Well, after 4 years of Obama...
there certainly won't be those anymore...except those closest to him, and you won't be a bit better off than you are right now. And when the rich aren't there anymore, who is going to pay for your health care then? You might want to have a contingency plan, because if Obama doesn't have the rich to tax anymore, how is HE going to pay for your health care? Another thing to think about...they will all move to Europe before they allow him to bleed them dry. Survival of the fittest. Where do you think you will fall in that food chain?
Just asking.
Yeah, moochers love Obama, thinking they will get
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Yeah, agreed. Obama supporters refuse to see his
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Yeah, I am hoping Obama WONT be a disaster.
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Yeah, I am hoping Obama WONT be a disaster
See I too can keep repeating like you.
Yeah, and they're also all 30 something or younger...all Obama drones....
Yeah, and didn't Michelle just tell us to judge Obama on his actions? sm
They finally let her out of her box onto the Larry King show, and that's one of the things she said.
I don't like his actions, one little bit.
He's bamboozled millions of people.
yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
Oh, yeah yeah, whatever. There's plenty of satan here, that is for sure!
Yeah, yeah, everything is funny. Wont
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....still protesting too much. (nm)
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My response
There is no sound byte answer about Rev. Wright. I'll give you a hint. It has to do with the fact that men of his generation experienced life in America differently than the whites did. Historically, many black churches have been and are political forums, stemming from the days of slavery, when the churches provided a refuge where freedom of speech was possible. I don't know what Obama did or did not hear, and neither do you. What I do know is that he has written extensively about the confusion he had over the "black" part of his identity and part of his search for meaning, purpose and belonging in his younger days was played out in South Chicago. If you have read anything about the church at all, you will know that they have been engaged in many extensive and successful outeach programs in their community and I suspect his "association" with Trinity was focused and centered around that. Too bad a person cannot be judged but his deeds, rather than wild speculation, innuendo and smear campaigns about the company he keeps.
A response from.....sm
To the first 4 paragraphs decrying the decay of black leadership while attempting to lay the blame at the feet of the democratic party, encouraging blacks to bail and proclaiming the dawn of a new day for black conservatism, all that needs to be said is yeah, right. The proof is in the pudding. Black voters are backing Obama 94-1, according to this random poll citation: http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1192 …6% stampede, and we have not even made it through the convention. Great big whoop.
The abortion graphics let us know that the minister is pro-life. OK. Fine. Next, we have this twisted accusation that Obama supports partial birth abortion. That is not his position on abortion, and it is laid out in no uncertain terms on his website and countless times in his speeches and townhall meetings. What he said is that he supports the notion that things should stay as they have been and that those issues should be determined on a state-by-state basis at the local level. Same thing with regard to same-sex marriage and the federal government not being in the business of defining the meaning of marriage, which he clearly believes is a union between a man and a woman (not exactly the most popular position in the gay community).
Yet despite this, the pastor insists he is champion of the gay agenda and the abortion "industry." Never mind that the democratic party platform includes many pro-active initiatives that conservatives will continue to obstruct regarding abortion prevention through sex education, birth control, encouraging and enabling single parents to keep their children with parenting education, job skills training and making adoption laws more user friendly. Most democrats perceive the conservative views on abortion as caring about unborn right from conception to the moment of birth. Beyond that, the babies kind of fall off the radar screen.
For this radical stance (i.e., preserving status quo), the pastor evokes the Barack HUSSEIN Obama slur and is all indignant that Obama puts himself out there as a Christian. Champion of the dead horse drumbeat. This guy is not looking real credible at this point. Performer, he calls him, doubting Obama's sincerity. The "God's on our side" mantra rings hollow as well, considering the conservative pathologic disdain for poverty and conflicts over notions such as the measure of a nation's moral character is only as strong as it's care for the least among us.
He then proceeds to twist the words of THE greatest black leader of modern times…MLK. The infanticide he referred to was the practice of killing female infants/gender selection in biblical patriarchal societies.…a practice emphatically condemned by the Islamic Prophet Mohammed in the Quran back in the day. Twist, turn, spin.
Lets see. Obama is evil incarnate because homophobic interpretations of the Bible do not impress him as much as the Sermon on the Mount? That would be the moral teachings of Jesus, to include the Lord's Prayer, the injunctions to "resist not evil" and "turn the other cheek", as well as Jesus' version of the Golden Rule. Other lines often quoted are the references to "salt of the Earth," "light of the world," and "JUDGE NOT, LEST YE BE JUDGED." These are the core beliefs of the Christian doctrine. Drag out the tar and feathers and hang him high for that sacrilege.
Then another call to arms for those 6% black conservatives, a 2nd reference to Barack HUSSEIN Obama. As for the upcoming black conservative youth, it is the youth vote from the remaining 94% blacks and whites alike that just might boost Obama over the top, last I heard.
Then of course, there are a few paragraphs of closing prayers. If this is what it means to be "right," this guy ends up making the Obama nation look better and better.
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So you are saying all other media outlets except Fox are liberal and therefore cannot be trusted to provide accurate information. Therefore, you can only get true information from their network, because they tell you that is so. I see where you are coming from.
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All the examples you use about being make to hate, if the individuals mentioned being indoctrinated resisted by using their minds to seek broader or alternative information could simply resist the information being forced on them and resist hating. Poor sentence structure, I admit.
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McCain did the same thing when he was defeated in N. Caroline because Rove used dirty tactics like push polls calling people and asking if they would vote for McCain if they knew he had a biracial baby. McCain had to suck it up and stand next to Bush and announce that he would support him. I thought he was ethical enough to resist using such tactics when he the chance to campaign. but I was wrong.
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