Would you care to post a few links on the subject?

• A quote from Ronald Reagan that I thought was appropriate - Kendra
  • Ronnie Reagan, the man who cut all the programs for mentally ill and sm - Mrs. M
    • And then he got Alzheimers - Karmic! - sky
    • You are ridiculous. He was one of the greatest - presidents ever -could use him today!.nm
      • I guess we are allowed to call names so YOU ARE a FOOL nm - Mrs. M
        • Your name calling reflects more on you.... - sam
  • I would also like to add this quote. - Chele
    • True statement. Big government = socialism. - sam
    • You posted this earlier today and got - No responses. Not much help.
      • I stated in my post that I had - Chele
        • Please explain to me how my legitimate questions - have been hateful....sm
          • It has been explained fully many times - Chele
            • Bingo! - sm
              • Replace Republican with Jewish and think... - sam
            • Exactly how have I been hateful. - Please post links. nm
  • Rambling and incoherent. - Please translate. nm
    • Rambling, incoherent, and boring! - Stardust
    • You are the queen of "rambling and - incoherent" so you
      • I posted 5 words. - Who are you talking to? nm
        • Read my post below........ - NM.......
    • Translate? LOL (another example of Obama - sheep). Good Lord!! nm
      • So you can't translate this either? All you have to offer is - a petty drive-by snipe?
        • No, I can EASILY understand it. YOU have a - tremendous problem. pathetic.nm
          • Pathetic is knee-jerk support of a concept - You cannot or will no explain...sm
    • Are you serious? Oh my! - nm
      • Mst definitely. Can anybody here please tell me - what's the point? nm
        • read it again--or don't--I really don't care - Kendra
          • So, does this mean - you can't interpret it either? nm
            • no it means - Kendra
              • Wow, feeling a bit touchy are we? After all... - it was your post.
            • I will try to put it simpler for you. - Chele
              • Who put faith in what government? - Defend youselves? Against what? sm
                • Unlike yourself, not everyone sees - total perfection in the
                • Another lemming. - Chele
                  • Lemonade out of - lemmings....sm
                    • You think O is a good guy? He profited from Fannie - and Freddie bigtime! -another crooked politician.n
                      • Would you care to post a few links on the subject? - Show me the proof...sm
              • Your math doesn't add up. So, what you're saying is - Reagan was talking about Obama?
                • yes - IMT
                • Reagon wasn't specifically talking about - Chele
                  • If you can't spell REAGAN, I don't want you to have a gun nm - Adeline
                    • And I am sure that you never - Chele
                    • was that necessary? - Kendra
                    • oh stop it - NM - IMT
                  • Your answer is in the - who put faith post. nm
                • no--Reagan was generalizing - Kendra
                  • So how does it apply to Obama? - Before you answer....sm
                    • the reason that I think it is relevant-- - Kendra
                      • My questions are not meant to attack. - i really am interested in your anwers....sm
                        • keep in mind - Kendra
                          • Patriot Act/health care - see message
                            • Tricare is.. - Amanda
                              • I know that it is not - Kendra
                                • Prior military wife myself - know how it works - - Amanda
                                  • but clearly, not everyone does. - Kendra
                            • I have heard Obama say that every American will have health insurance - Kendra
                              • This public insurance is not free - - Amanda
                                • Again, I believe that it is not free--yet. - Kendra
                                  • and, that would be Medicaid already by the way... - Amanda
                                    • medicaid is not available to everyone--by the way - Kendra
                                      • right - available to the low income - - Amanda
                                  • He is not going to mandate that you have insurance - - Amanda
                                    • employer based-programs subsidize insurance... - Kendra
                                      • if you already have insurance you don't have to change - nm - Amanda
                            • Robin-Hood-Obama is not the answer here. - What he wants should be criminal.nm
  • Excellent quote. nm - Chele

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Then I will make up my mind.

Don't forget, he was po'd because the CIA and FBI did not work together and he was getting conflicting  info from both sources, but tried to unravel which was true, or did you forget that, too?

objective views. This is a one-sided publication that asks for donations to keep it going. Nothing I read in there posts anything against any democrats, just republicans. It is not a fair-minded reporting.

I like to read both sides of the aisle but this publication spews hatred for anything not democratic in order to sell books.  To those who can't see both sides, this blog, or publication as they like to state, is just up their aisle. I shake my head at one-sided news. Taken from their web site:

"Indeed, a founding idea of the Consortium for Independent Journalism was that a major investment was needed in journalistic endeavors committed to honestly informing the American people about important events, no matter what the political and economic pressures.

Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press and Newsweek. His new book, Secrecy & Privilege: Rise of the Bush Dynasty from Watergate to Iraq, can be ordered at secrecyandprivilege.com. It's also available at Amazon.com, as is his 1999 book, Lost History: Contras, Cocaine, the Press & 'Project Truth.' "

Consider this post educational. This is a post, from someone who lives with a single-payer health care system in a social democracy, explaining why I believe that this is a good way to make sure that everyone can receive health care.

Health care stateside costs more than 2.8 trillion USD per year. More than HALF of that money is spent on clerical help, at the doctor's office, at the lab, at the hospital, at the insurer, by the insurer to deny coverage for whatever they can deny. The reason that 62% of bankruptcies every year are due to catastrophic medical emergencies and 78% of those emergencies are insured, including 60% who had private insurance, not medicaid.., is the profit motive and the incentive it provides to deny coverage (stats from recent Harvard study). The same study found that most of these bankruptcies were solidly middle-class people hit by an unexpected medical emergency. These are not the powerless of the world; these are the people that keep the economy running.

The US spends more per capita on health care than any other developed nation, for a lower standard of care and a poorer result.

For instance, Canada's lifetime risk of maternal death is 1 in 11,000; not as good as Austria and Norway, but in the top 11. The US risk is 1 in 4,800 about twice Canada's rate and close to Mauritius. (Stats from Unicef) If you look closer at rates by race, you find that white women have about the same risk as women in Canada; blacks and Hispanics make up the difference, and that was shocking to me. Another shock to me was to find that more than one woman had been denied maternity care, as it was a pre-existing condition. Oh yes, and that Viagra is covered, but birth control often is not.

As it stands now, the US government covers the elderly, infirm, disabled and the poor. The private insurers get their pick of those that remain, and insurance is tied to your employment, which means that you are liable to find yourself without insurance at the very point that you need it most. Insurance often covers a portion of prescriptions, vision care and dental, but only a portion and not always. The portion of coverage declines the more common the need is. There are no drug price caps; the US is practically the only nation in the world not to have them.

IF the government were to cover everyone via a single-payer system, the cost of insuring everyone would cost less, much less than that 2.8 trillion every year.

Single-payer is not socialized medicine. It is exactly what it says it is. The government acts as the main insurer. Doctors are mostly in private practice, although there are a few clinics, usually attached to hospitals. Hospitals tend to be run either by the province or as charitable or private entities, or a combination of both. The choice of doctor is left to the patient; truthfully, patients in Canada have a larger choice of doctors than patients in the US. One's insurer doesn't dictate one's health care provider. It is true that we do not, currently, have dental or prescription care provided by medicare. That is, as it is stateside, covered by a private insurer, if at all. On the other hand, medications here are 1/3 of the price, generally, that they are stateside.

Doctors are paid by the government, yes, but they are billed in the same way an insurer would be. They are paid for provision of services. The main difference is that the insurer is the government; that means that between 10 and 30% of the cost of providing the service is cut. The government doesn't take a profit, doesn't deny services, gives no bonuses for denying services, and has, in fact, no interest in denying services. This means that everyone, regardless of pre-existing conditions, is covered.

Malpractice suits are not as onerous here as there. There is a cost, of course, associated with lost wages, pain and suffering, punitive damages, lost companionship or a lost parent, but there is no cost associated with lifetime medical care, which is the biggest portion of the US awards. Since health care is taken care of by the government, there is no extra cost for this; the government won't deny coverage, which a private insurer will. It has nothing to do with the government restricting awards; it has everything to do with future health care being taken care of.

How is it paid for? At the beginning, it was paid for through a payment collected by your employer. If I recall correctly, it was $33.00 per person at the beginning. It worked, and well, but it became obvious that the cheapest way to provide healthcare was to charge everyone through taxes, which were progressive, as a flat charge was not. Taxes were charged on tobacco and alcohol to offset the social and medical costs of their use, and that's a fair way to deal with it. Are taxes higher here? Actually, not much.

That is, in part, due to a different set of priorities.

However, If you can find a trillion dollars in three or four days to keep a bloated and corrupt Wall Street afloat, and a couple of trillion dollars for the occupation of Iraq, shouldn't it be as easy to find cash to institute single payer health care in order to keep the population healthy and relieve the burden of increasing health care costs on business?

nm

I do not understand why so many links are put on this board?

On a blog forum one should put one's own opinion, not what is posted on the internet.  At least one should put it in one's own words.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/21/AR2006062101837.html

http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htchem/articles/20060123.aspx

Warning:  On this first one there are some terrible pics, but I posted this for the text.

http://www.staticbrain.com/archive/pentagon-censors-soldiers-access-to-internet/

On this one, please note where he says *When you’re in an environment where you don’t have access to any information sources, independent or otherwise, all you can do is conjecture. We didn’t have any access to newspapers or the Internet. *

http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-14/article/29458?headline=Iraq-Veteran-Speaks-Out-Against-War

Here's a reality check for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOj7Nxcn6gg&feature=related

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVg2jiaBA1jwVfCdsisXI0FbZD0AD965BKCG0

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29030191/

Don't know if that's true about Bill or not, but the graphic showing the top 3 newsmakers with Mr. Floatie--join the movement gave me my much needed gut laugh for today....  

What can I say...I like potty humor...please don't flame me 

one can see good and bad.  All people will never agree on anything.and there is good and bad in all people.  I most certainly do not think blacks need to be compensated for their ancestors but count on it, that will happen no matter who is in the White House.  I don't think slavery was right either but you know what?  I wasn't around 150 years go to own any slaves so I'm not accepting any guilt trip.  The repatrition (or whatever the word is), if that gets seriously considered in CONGRESS, you can bet my Senator and Representative will get an ear full from their old "friend" the gourd!  LOL

I certainly don't mean to start a race war but blacks have the same opportunities in this country as whites.  Have a look at one of the presidential candidates.

Yeah, I think I'm through with this board.  The incoherent ramblings from pubs on here is getting boring.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/01/019637.php

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1200572509823&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

If you copy and paste the entire thing, you stand about a 12% chance of them actually reading it.  So here is, ironically, what you get when you click on the word "REQUIRE."

It might be too many words for some, but the bottom line is that this is a choice, NOT a REQUIREMENT.