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Wondering about Georgia. s/m

Posted By: gourdpainter on 2008-11-15
In Reply to: Unbelievable - Individual cities are now asking for money from the bailout - - Amanda

Are they like Arkansas?  We may be hillbillies but we have enough sense to step on politicians when they don't deliver.  The Democrat who replaced Mike Huckabee got the mess straightened out in this basically Republican state.  I don't know of any individual cities who have their hand out here either.  Seems like states, cities AND people all want a piece of the free money.  Like all the posts here and elsewhere waiting for Obama to fill their hands with all that free cash.  EVERYBODY needs to wake up:


This is a little story about four people named everybody,somebody,anybody and nobody.

There was an important job to be done and everybody was sure that somebody would do it.

Anybody could have done it but nobody did it.

Somebody got angry about that because it was everybody's job.

Everybody thought that anybody could do it but nobody realized that everybody wouldn't do it.

It ended up that everybody blamed somebody when nobody did what anybody could have done. 




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I am in Georgia... nm
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that's only in Georgia - I am using it by the way - nm
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well they don't in Georgia -
they won't share the nature of the visit, but they sure share the bill at a private doctor's office.
GEORGIA!!!
Can't even get a job with a degree because they hire minorities first!

Speaking from experience!

LOL
georgia editorial
This is an editorial that appeared in the Griffin, GA newspaper, written by Pastor Herb Flanders of the United Methodist Church.

Dear President Obama,

As I gather the Sunday before Memorial Day to worship with two United Methodist congregations I pastor in Griffin, Ga, I'll think about some of your recent comments. I'll be thinking of what you told a crowd of about 2,000 in Strasbourg, Germany, as you spoke of our nation's views of Europe - "Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive." The gray, balding heads on the people who worship with me attest to their years of toil and labor on this Earth. They are, as Jesus said, the 'salt of the Earth." They are grandmamas and granddaddies, blue collar folks who worked hard to build a community and raise families, to give to others when they had precious little for themselves. They continue to do these things today.

Salt of the Earth they are and heroes to boot. When this nation called they answered with a resounding 'yes' and went where Uncle Sam asked them. A couple of months ago, we laid John Busbin to rest. Like you, he visited Europe on behalf of the U.S. He beat you there by 65 years and spent his time marking and clearing mine fields, not giving speeches. Rather than being arrogant, dismissive or derisive, John partnered with the French and others to meet a common challenge. Others did the same, sailing on ships, slogging through mud or soaring through the air because evil and tyranny were well on their way to taking over the world.

I wish you'd come May 24th and sit with these folks as we sing America the Beautiful and America. I'd like it if you could sit up front with me when Maxine Bunn and Jerry Turner do a medley of military service hymns and the veterans or spouses of deceased veterans stand when their branch's hymn is played. They grab hold of the pew in front of them to pull themselves to their feet. I know I'm in the company of giants. I'd love for you to meet Janie Worthy and understand those tears that still glisten on her cheeks each Memorial Day Sunday. Janie married John Pershing Botkin in August 1943. Their daughter Gail was born Aug. 10, 1944, three or four months after John shipped out to Europe. Janie, 19, went to St. Mary's, Ohio to stay with her in-laws after Gail was born. One Sunday afternoon in early December, farm families began to call each other as the postmaster's Model A made its way down the country roads. They knew that car carried news that would shatter a family and were trying to figure out where he was headed. He stopped in front of Janie's in-laws' farmhouse. Her daddy-in-law walked out to meet him and learned that John was killed in action Nov. 11, 1944, serving with the Army in Alsace. Cpl. Botkin never saw, held or kissed his little girl. As a father, you can empathize with Janie's salty tears.

Perhaps if you could come you'd see why your words hurt so many so much. America may be many things and she certainly isn't perfect, but heroes with whom I share my life have hardly been arrogant, dismissive or derisive of Europe. They've given themselves to save Europe when Europe couldn't save itself. So, Mr. President, get out of Washington for a weekend and take a trip down to Georgia. We'll feed you some barbecue over in Williamson and I'll introduce you to some friends of mine, some everyday giants and ordinary heroes.



God bless,

Herb Flanders
Based on what is going on right now with Russia and georgia...
I would say looking in his eyes and seeing KGB is pretty much on the mark. McCain knows who and what Russian "management" are. You can see what they think about negotiations. Basically told the world up yours, if we want Georgia back we are going to take it. Why doesn't Obama go visit them like he did Germany and give a speech about how he is a citizen of the world and see how far it gets him. Sigh....Careful what YOU ask for.
Georgia used to be part of the USSR before...
the USSR broke off. It is a democracy now. If Georgia is in NATO now, we would be obligated as a NATO signatory to defend them. That is what he meant. As would other NATO countries.

I really don't think Russia wants to get into a confrontation with NATO. That does not concern me as much as them playing war games with Chavez in Venezuela. That is very concerning.
Sorry, I meant "in Georgia"....nm

Since when is Georgia a blue state?
Just wondering.
forgot - I live in GEORGIA!
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I am talking about the HOPE grant in Georgia
It comes from our lottery money. Will look up the other Hope that you are talking about.
Looks like a pretty good size crowd at the Alamo and in Sacramento and in Georgia.
Guys, I know you all worship at the feet of the Obama false idol, but for God's sake turn the channel every once in while!
Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia

Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel issued the following statement following the U.S. Department of Justice’s denial of preclearance of Georgia’s voter verification process


Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.


“DOJ has thrown open the door for activist organizations such as ACORN to register non-citizens to vote in Georgia’s elections, and the state has no ability to verify an applicant’s citizenship status or whether the individual even exists. DOJ completely disregarded Georgia’s obvious and direct interest in preventing non-citizens from voting, instead siding with the ACLU and MALDEF. Clearly, politics took priority over common sense and good public policy.
 
“This process is critical to protecting the integrity of our elections. We have evidence that non-citizens have voted in past Georgia elections and that more than 2,100 individuals have attempted to register, yet still have questions regarding their citizenship. Further, the Inspector General’s office is investigating more than 30 cases of non-citizens casting ballots in Georgia elections, including the case of a Henry County non-citizen who registered to vote and cast ballots in 2004 and 2006.


“It is important to underscore that not a single person has come forward to say he or she could not vote because of the verification process. Further, while DOJ argues that the process is somehow discriminatory, the historic voter turnout among Hispanic and African-American voters in the 2008 general elections clearly says otherwise.


“This decision provides a specific example of the inherently illogical and unfair nature of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. It is a sad day for the rights of our state and for the integrity of our elections. I remain committed to continuing the fight for citizenship verification. In the coming days, I will consider every option available to the state, including the possibility of legal action.”


Background:


As required by law and ordered by federal courts in October 2008, the eligibility of new applicants to register and vote is checked against the Georgia Department of Driver Services (DDS) and Social Security Administration databases to ensure that individuals registering to vote report similar information. If information in these databases does not match information reported on the voter registration form, the applicant is asked to clarify the information. Additionally, if the applicant previously reported to DDS that he or she is not a U.S. citizen, that person is asked by a registrar to provide proof of citizenship.


Prior to the November 2008 General Election, Secretary Handel sent letters to 4,771 voter registration applicants whose records at DDS indicated they were not U.S. citizens, asking them to provide documentation of their citizenship. As of March 2009, 2,148 of these applicants still have chosen not to resolve the question about their U.S. citizenship.


In the November 2008 General Election, county election officials reported that 599 individuals cast a challenged ballot because the voter had previously indicated to DDS that he or she was not a United States citizen and had not resolved their status with county officials at the time of the election. Of those, 369 ballots were accepted because the voter provided documentation of their citizenship after the election; and 230 were rejected because the individual chose not to confirm his or her citizenship status.


On October 10, 2008, activist organizations including the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit to attempt to prevent Georgia from verifying the eligibility of applicants to register and vote in the November General Election, including whether those individuals were citizens of the United States.


On October 16, 2008, U.S. District Court Judge Jack Camp denied the motion by MALDEF and ACLU; directed the State to continue the verification process; and acknowledged the State’s requirements to verify information under the Help America Vote Act. In his order, Judge Camp stated:


HAVA requires that Defendant Handel match information in the statewide voter registration database with information from the Georgia DDS and the SSA databases “to the extent necessary to enable each such official to verify the accuracy of the information provided on the applications for voter registration.”


Judge Camp also stated: ...


I was wondering how it all came to be
I was just about to do some searching on the Internet to learn how all this happened in the first place.

You explained it in a way that I can understand it.

Thank you very much for your research and the link provided too.
I was wondering about that myself.... nm
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Just wondering s/m
I've been out most of the day and was hoping to see something new.  Do you all EVER stop and look back at how many times you have posted the SAME thing?  It is just unbelievable from a bunch of MTs who are supposedly well-educated and intelligent.  Happy Obama bashing all you pubs.  I don't know what you're so worried about, your guy will win in the end and even if he does or doesn't, neither one of them are going to lower your taxes!  Did anyone hear about Chrysler/GM now needing a few bil????????  Step right up big biz, next?, next?
something I have been wondering
It seems to me that this campaign has been more divisive than any I recall, and I am not a young person so I have seen a few! Emotions are really running high this year. Has it always been this highly charged and I didn't notice or is it really so much more tense in 2008? Is it because I age I am feeling more at stake here? Does anyone else feel this way or am I way out there?
You know what I'm wondering?
Where did all the posters with actual monikers go?  For the most part all posts seem to be signed with the ending of a sentence lately.  If I couldn't sign a post I sure as heck wouldn't post it.  Not surprising though I guess since these Obama haters have taken over the board, which as I've said before, I seriously doubt they are even MTs.
Yep. I am just wondering what all the...
faithful are going to think if the great and powerful O is elected and they wake up and find out this ain't Kansas anymore, and the ruby slippers are long gone. lol. sigh.
You know what I'm wondering?
Where did all the posters with actual monikers go?  For the most part all posts seem to be signed with the ending of a sentence lately.  If I couldn't sign a post I sure as heck wouldn't post it.  Not surprising though I guess since these Obama haters have taken over the board, which as I've said before, I seriously doubt they are even MTs.
You know what I'm wondering?
Where did all the posters with actual monikers go?  For the most part all posts seem to be signed with the ending of a sentence lately.  If I couldn't sign a post I sure as heck wouldn't post it.  Not surprising though I guess since these Obama haters have taken over the board, which as I've said before, I seriously doubt they are even MTs.
Right, was wondering if that is where this came from nm
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I am just wondering...
How many of these rude comments about these politicians would be stated if they had to be backed up by a reliable source??
I was wondering what you think we ought to do with
the people housed in Gitmo?  Where should they go?  Back to their countries where they can plot and then carry out their next terrorist attack?  Or do you want them housed here in the continental U.S. at a correction facility near you? I live within 80 miles of Fort Leavenworth and I can tell you, I'm not pleased with the idea of a hundred or so terrorists that close to my family!
I'm wondering..............sm
Obama didn't specifically mention MT in his comments, at least what was in the above post. I admit I didn't listen to the link. I wonder if he might have been referring to things like call centers, etc., which I really would consider unskilled labor.
Wondering
Okay, I don't like Obama.  Does this mean I'm not a democrat?  According to this board, I must be a Republican.  Can I not be an Independent?  Or what about just being an American who doesn't pick a side, but goes with my my own feelings based on what a man says and does?  All this talk about the government doing this and the government taking that.  Last I checked, the people were the government in the US, so we are all doing this and taking that and allowing this.   I'm an American with an opinion, so quit putting me in a category. 
Just wondering...
what would happen to this country if the 2% that are expected to pay for all of this just up and leave the country, never to pay US taxes again? Even if half left? Who would sustain our government then?
What I am wondering is are these 8 to
10,000 dead people receiving monthly benefit checks as well? If so, what is happening to that money?
I'm just wondering...
how someone could think statutory rape would be funny, no matter whose daughter they're talking about. Letterman needs to get a clue.
Just wondering,
why this seems to give you so much joy? I think most of the people that voted for Bush (myself included) see that what he did was not the best idea, but I don't see how dragging it all out for the world to see is going to make it better. Why is it we can't just let it go and move on? Would that be so terrible?
Just wondering,
why this seems to give you so much joy? I think most of the people that voted for Bush (myself included) see that what he did was not the best idea, but I don't see how dragging it all out for the world to see is going to make it better. Why is it we can't just let it go and move on? Would that be so terrible?
We were wondering if it really WAS America.
Happily things seem to be rolling along again.

Hope we won't hear too much whining about innocent until proven guilty however - DeLay's indictment spells it right out and despite his predictable claims of witch hunt and fanatic partisan vendetta, there really doesn't seem to be any question about what happened. They have the check copies and they have the testimony. So yes, we have to wait for the formal sentencing after the facts have been heard by the Grand Jury - but there is no other side to the story so far as I can see, and no alternate explanation possible about what happened.

In the court of public opinion, DeLay is dead meat. Sweet.
Wondering if you realize....
that every single one of the comments you are talking about were directed at me, and there are quite a few others. Just wondering if you know how they made me genuinely feel. Just wondering.
Anyone been wondering just how much longer

this Sam person is going to totally monopolize and bully this forum, before the moderator finally steps in and boots her off? 



Not what I said. Just wondering why we continue getting
and not a single person can stop and show a bit more humanity....that's all.
Hiya, Sam! (Was wondering where you were -)
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I bet within a year, you will be wondering WHY you
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Just wondering if anyone else agrees

I think this may just be the best idea I've seen for bailout money yet.  While I realize that a lot of people who have been responsible with their money and do not have a large amount of debt disagree with bailing out those who do have a lot of debt, I try to keep in mind that not everybody's circumstances are the same and sometimes it is not irresponsibility with money management but a lack of money to manage, for which I try to bear in mind, again, that there are many reasons for. 


Anyway, just looking for thoughts and opinions, as this seems to me to be a win-win type of solution where bailouts are given, consumers and corporations reap benefits, and it is not a complete give away as at least part of the money would be paid back.  Just seems like something that might actually give the economy the boost it needs right now.  And if bailouts are going to be given anyway, I like the idea proposed here.  Not to mention that the consumer can opt in or out depending on what they want to do.  What do you guys think?


I was wondering the same thing
I haven't seen her in months. She probably just got sick and tired of the same thing. She was attacked so much for her viewpoints I don't blame her for not coming back. I do agree with the O-Love-A-Thon going on. That's all I see now and then when someone does post something of interest they are immediately attacked. It's just gotten quite nauseating and creepy. Besides a few articles here and there nobody is giving any information anymore.

I like Ann Coulter. I don't have her books. I don't go out of my way to watch her but if she's on I'll listen to her. What I like about her is she is not afraid to get up and tell the truth and she knows she'll get bashed for it but she handles herself really well. I have no idea why she agreed to go on the view knowing the way they are. The funny thing was that couldn't argue with the truth so they then started in with she's mean, she's this, she's that, but they couldn't argue with the facts.

I too miss sam and her insights. I do believe she also got sick of the crap and left. I know I did. Still wish there were two boards so they could have their love-fest and we could discuss the issues. I do miss that. With the exception of one or two that do bring good information, the rest just like to attack.

Okay, got my flame resistent suit on.

Sam, if you do read this know that we miss you here.
Honestly wondering
I didn't vote for O, but I think he wants to be a honest, decent president. What I'm wondering is, what is all this hoopla doing to his ego? Who wouldn't be swayed by the fawning, adoring fans, the coronation-like atmosphere in the media and the comparisons to Martin Luther King and Lincoln? How can this NOT give him an inflated sense of self-importance?

So, I'm wondering, when it comes time for him to enter the White House, is his head going to be too big to fit through the door?

He has a serious and important job to do. I wish this day would be treated with the importance it deserves, but not with the carnival atmosphere I've seen displayed.

I was kinda wondering about that myself
Considering the veil of secrecy the previous administration operated under, I'm kinda stunned that they're making this an issue. I don't remember this outrage when Cheney held his secret covert meetings to form energy policy with the members of the oil cartels. That directly impacted each and every one of us as it served to guide policy, yet I don't recall this outrage from the right regarding that.

I'm an independent (the real kind, not like Bill O), but I'm just a bit amazed about the short memories some people seem to have if they Obama is raising the fear level.
I guess I am wondering by your
reply what would be your response had this teacher been fired 10-20 years ago had he been gay, black or hispanic, promoting socialism and he would have been walking against the tide as it were? Would you have agreed with that decision or would you have said it was unfair to fire him for daring to be his own person even though it put him out of the mainstream?
I was wondering if you would be reading the posts
I'm just astounded that in the year 2008 we have such ignorance in people who spew words without researching them. I guess bigotry is still alive in your section of the country but in my region (and the region I grew up in which is way on the other side) we were taught to love everyone like our own sister or brother. You don't judge people and you dont' make fun of people because of the way they look, speak, dress or what their freakin middle name is! It's odd that when someone comes out and tells you they are a Christian and they go to a Christian church so many people are focused on trying to say otherwise. Reminds me of what I read about Benjamin Franklin who wrote in his papers that he was a Diest yet after he died people kept trying to say he was a Christian. Then of course there are the people who will probably pull out the bible and try and find some passage in there to support their viewpoint (even if it takes them a whole week or more to find one). But to come out and acuse someone of being the antichrist is just rediculous and downright childish. You know who I read was the antichrist....Prince William!! Go figure! So who is right? Bush may have done some things that he should go to jail for but that doesn't make him an antichrist and for pitty sake...Barack has done absolutely nothing! Do you hear me....nothing that would qualify him as being an antichrist. Guess that goes to show you that anytime someone doesn't like someone they are quick to name him as the antichrist. Sure I can't stand Bush. I think he's one of the worst presidents we've had (well second worst - first worst was Billy Boy Clinton), but I'm not going to label anyone as the antichrist. I guess I just never really knew any biggots and closed minded people until I started reading some of the posts! Glad I live amonth free thinking people who want a leader we can count on, we can trust, and who votes for the right things and against the wrong.
All of this abortion talk has me wondering... sm

Doesn't anyone believe in adoption anymore?  I know this is a discussion about abortion and the govt. etc., but it makes me wonder.  I read these posts about all the babies that are aborted and maybe they are better off because of the homes they might be coming from if they weren't aborted.  It just seems like that it is an either or, abortion or keep the baby.  There is another option and it is an option that most extreme groups won't even mention.  I have heard from pro-lifers and not once have they said anything about adoption and when I asked, they looked at me like I had 2 heads. 


It just seems that more people would consider adoption as a choice.  I know that if I got pregnant when I was younger and didn't think I could raise the child, adoption would definitely be on the top of my list.  I'm not against abortion and do realize that there are reasons for why people choose them that I cannot comprehend and I don't feel like the women who have them suffer no consequences, but I just wish that adoption would be chosen before abortion.


Link inside on why. Wondering if you know
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/09/04/2007-09-04_rudy_giuliani_talks_hurricane_emergency_.html

Vote DID NOT PASS. Just wondering
what happens next. I totally do not agree with what they want US (average person) to do. They need to go after the corporate crooks. Unbelievable. I think they tried to RUSH this package. No one knows what they are doing.
I have been wondering too. She has been MIA for a couple of days now. nm
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I'm wondering how long that support will last...
when the money starts coming in and it's not as much as they thought they would get. I read in our local newspaper today that states with lower unemployment rates will get less money than those with higher rates.

Now, to me this makes sense, but I can already hear about how 'that's not fair' and 'everyone should get the same.' Should be interesting to watch.
anyone else wondering how much damage Bush can do in the next few months?


Wondering where the money is coming from for this stimulus?? sm

and then saw this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ulp_96DYiqg


 


Okey dokey, was wondering, thanks for the post!..nm
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