Won't be too impressed with Palin's calling
Posted By: Hillary a "whiner." sm on 2008-08-29
In Reply to: come on..have you been watching the news? - there are so many feminist groups refusing
You do make an excellent point about the ignorant voters. It may be one more reason, but there are plenty of reasons for feminists/Hillary supporters NOT to vote for that ticket. Here's my argument on that.
Feminists, for the most part, are educated, contemporary activists who meticulously dissect women's issues to the bone. In play here in terms of their issues will be such concepts as the sexist, "token" showcase nature of this selection and the blatent bid for Hillary supporters to come and save his sinking ship, his motivations in terms of making the condescending assumption that that women will vote for a woman just because she is a woman and ignore their own core issues, the beauty contestant entourage he seems to like to surround himself with, the Stepford Wife image of an inexperienced VP running mate/wife playing follow the leader behind him and how much respect she can REALLY command among the big boy party cronies whose counterparts she alientated in Alaska. Two major feminist issues of substance would be the fact that to them, she is on the wrong side of Pro-Life/pro-choice and has a record of not supporting fair pay intiatives for women!
The media will step in and have a hey day with this. Just give it a little time. It is their job to stir the pot. For your own sake, if they are stirring yours more than you would like, expand your news source horizons. Keith Olberman and Chris Matthews (MSNBC) would be a good place to start on cable, but there are many other less bash-prone, better informed news sources to consider as well.
Hillary is not likely to stand slently on the sidelines with these issues, either. Look for her to step up to the plate and take this on nanoseconds after the Repubican extravaganza concludes by contrasting herself, her experience, her record, REAL women's issues and her dedication to feminist causes against this janie-come-lately who is poised to steal her spotlight. That "whiner" commment will come back to haunt what's-her-name soon enough. Just be patient.
As for the die-hard followers who DO vote with their genitalia, let them go. Good riddance. They will not make the greatest party loyalist no matter what side of the fence they end up on.
Also, remember what Bill said about being on the right side of history and try to have a little faith. If it is really meant to be, it will happen in spite of McCain and the party's best efforts to highjack the Hope train.
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Name calling? Point out 1 instance of "nasty name calling" in response to your posts
Your childlike accusations are patently false - but you are indeed welcome to your own opinion. I just don't have to agree.
I am impressed
25 readers read wee paw post while only 3 looked at samIam. Way to go wp.
I, for one, was not impressed
with Palin's speech....scripted speech....scripted applause. Still all I know about the GOP is McCain's time spent in the Hanoi Hilton. I "get it." Now, what will McCain/Palin do exactly to fix America????? I'm no fan of either party but Obama certainly lays out a plan, like it or not.
What about the the Bataan Death March of 1942? There are many more unsung patriotic heroes other than John McCain. I honor his service but not enough to want to see him the leader of our country. I notice that he isn't trotting out McBush and Bulldog Cheney to support him. Wonder why? He voted with McBush 90% of the time so why would we think anything would change from the status quo?
I'm not impressed
The trouble is that many of us believe everything we read. This link is so obviously anti-Obama, pro-McCain, I'm not even going to waste my time researching the alleged "facts."
Wow, I am impressed. What a guy.
It takes a special person to want to work with high risk teens. I had 4 teens at one time and it still makes me shudder!
Impressed
Nope, he's not in charge yet, but he can definitely put pressure on the current administration, and just did....LOL. Thank you Obama! Current job losses 1.2 mil, just last month 240,000. If nothing is done while we are waiting for the ceremony on Jan 20, that will cost us an addition 480,000 jobs (if not more) if this trend holds true.
No disrespect...just not impressed.
Every man and woman in the military risks the possibility of becoming a prisoner of war at one time or another. The enemy does not pick only the "special" soldiers to be their prisoners. They take whomever they can get their grubby little hands on!
I think he's just overly impressed with himself.
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I am impressed by the fact that you . . .
deign to "know" what God thinks!! Congratulations oh Chosen One.
I am SO impressed with everything Obama stands
<3 Obama 
As a Republican I was not real impressed...
by Palin last night. I thought she spoke well and had a good speech getting the crowd going, but I was sad to see so much bashing from the speakers last night. I guess as a Rep. I think we should be above that.  . One of the things that bothered me was Rudy and Sarah going after Obama for his work as a community organizer. Excuse me, but shouldn't that be a good thing. I also wished she would have stayed away from the whole bridge to nowhere considering she was all for it until the heat came on that it was pretty much a joke and then she decided she was all against it. I'm not saying I am crossing party lines but I am not completely sold on the McCain/Palin ticket, and last night's speech certainly didn't clinch it for me either. I just hope that soon that junk will be pushed aside on her her so we can get to the issues and some actual hardline questions and answers. Below is a blog post from The Dallas Morning News. I know, it is just a blog but I thought it had some good points. Read on.
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I really don't understand the mocking of Obama for being a community organizer as a young man.
Giuliani last night: "On the other hand, you have a resume from a gifted man with an Ivy League education. He worked as a community organizer. What? He worked -- I said -- I said, OK, OK, maybe this is the first problem on the resume."
Palin last night: I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a "community organizer," except that you have actual responsibilities.
Now, the truth is that, starting at age 23, Obama ran a faith-based charity called the Developing Communities Project.
It was made up of eight Catholic parishes when he got there and had one staff member. He was its director, meaning he was in charge. He made decisions about it, including staffing, budgets, etc. And when he left in 1988 to go to law school, he had grown its budget from $70,000 to $400,000, its staff from 1 to 13 people. More important, he created a job training program for this community and a college prep tutoring program.
As mayor, she built a hockey rink/rec center using eminent domain (because apparently there just isn't enough land in Alaska).
And keep in mind the timeline here: Obama did this as a young man BEFORE going to law school, becoming a successful lawyer and a law professor.
I don't think it's right to attack someone for working in a faith-based charity out of college. I think we all have some embarrassing first-jobs in our past. I would not make fun of Palin for being a beauty queen and sports reporter out of college during these same years. Although, I do think Obama's experience shaped his political future a bit better ...
Thanks for the post. I was especially impressed by the last sentence...
of the article. At least they showed both sides (good for them), albeit three paragraphs on Palin and 1 line on Obama. Big sentence tho.
It appears she learned a new big word there. Are we impressed?
In that case, I am truly impressed by her ability to get her nose up her own buttocks!
Maybe being a contortionist is her true calling in life!
Sarah Palin fans are as whack as Palin.
Even John McCain's top adviser referred to Sarah Palin as a whack job.
Vote McCain and Palin! -oh and why does Palin
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Palin over Biden any day. Make fun of Palin all you
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Who's doing the name calling here? LOL
Try reading a little closer!
I said it was an ignorant post. There is a lesson in semantics here:Surly you can tell the difference between "ignorant poster" and ignorant post?
My post was not "name calling" - I simply pointed out the poster's opinions were not based in known fact.
As to name calling, I would point out your use of the term 'naïve' - what part of my post criticising Obama A DEMOCRAT - didn't you read? Why would you assume I give the Clintons a pass?
both parties are corrupt to the gills and Americans in general are ignorant of what they are actually do to us ALL and to the world.
Read a little closer before you rant :)
Why do they keep calling?
Over the last 3 or 4 days I have gotten 6 or 7 calls (they call twice a day and always when I am sitting down to eat). They are the democrats calling telling me all the wonderful things about Obama and I have to show my support and vote for him). I keep telling them I am a registered democrat so they know who I am voting for and after they've gone on about him they then say "well you should vote your concious", but they always say it quite softly and one person I asked him to repeat what he said because I couldn't hear it. The last one I told them if I'm voting my conscious why are you propping up Obama?
I don't understand if I'm a registered democrat why are the democrats calling me, shouldn't the republicans be calling me? I have not received one call from anyone on the republicans side (and I haven't left my house since last Saturday when I went grocery shopping so know I haven't missed any calls).
This is just so frustrating. I'd turn off my phone but I have friends and family that call me too. Boy I cannot wait for the election to be over.
There was no name calling at all there nm
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Name calling. How like you.
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Again with the name calling?
What are you, 9?
Name calling
What are you a child with your name calling? How can anyone take anything you say seriously when you act like a 5-year-old calling names?
name calling
I have bedbugs crawling all over me as I lie on the bed in this cheap motel.
Things zoom past me that I just don't get.
I am such a wrong poor widdle victim of meanies and misogynists, and I play the race card too. And I drank so much Kool-Aid that I cannot face unpleasant truths.
I refuse to grow up. And I can't put a sentence together.....
But you have a face only a mother could love...
I don't appreciate you calling me a liar
and neocons liars in general (BTW, I'm not a neocon), and I refuse to discuss the gross inaccuracies in the article above with a person who thinks we're all liars. It's blatant waste of time.
Like Pat Robertson calling for
of Chavez? Or telling the people of Dover not to pray to God 'cause God won't answer? Must be nice to have such a straight line to the Lord God. Yeah, that's REAL Christianity alright.
Can you stop with the name calling please?
The moderator asked that we be respectful, and "ignorant conservatives" is far from that. Branding a whole group of people based on the way one person posts shows very little tolerance on your part. I thought liberals were supposed to be tolerant and believe in the rights of EVERYONE...EVEN...GASP...OH NO...conservatives!!! You do not sound very tolerant and you walked ALL OVER this poster's rights. I guess it is a case of Do as I say...not as I do? It kinda makes any statement or point you wished to make here ring very hollow...at least in this ignorant conservative's view.
You keep calling me your friend...
...why is that? I hope you don't generally treat your friends this way.
As far as me singling people out to torment -- it would only be you and it would be singular. Plus, I didn't "single" you out, just saw your posts on a PUBLIC forum and as I said, they looked kind of mean and cruddy. However, I would say you are the PLURAL stalker. Come one, come all you will take them on and condemn and mock all that folks say on the liberal board!! And then accuse them of all being the same person. Lots of paranoia goin' on in that ole brain of yours, doesn't sound very healthy at all!!! No, sir!!!
Can we stop with the name calling?
Just because you do not agree does not make the poster ignorant. Condescending, to say the least.
Obama's message of empathy is redistribution of wealth. Socialism 101. Why do you think because someone has been successful that obligates them to pay more than anyone else? If you check on a lot of those so-called rich, they give more heavily to charitable organizations, establish foundations, etc. They don't horde it all and count it daily and laugh maniacally because they have it and you don't. Class envy is a nasty, nasty thing.
Why not a flat tax? Ten percent across the board, we ALL pay it. THAT is fair. The rich already pay over 90% of ALL taxes in the coffers. Even THAT is not enough for you.
Perhaps Obama could keep his girls out of camp one year and put that 10 grand toward helping some of the less fortunate. Let him lead by example. Ah...but don't hold your breath. And it is not just Obama...any Dem. Lead by example...cut them a check every month, right of the top of your wages.
It is very naive to suggest that corruption resides only on the republican side. The Clintons have run corrupt administrations from Arkansas right on up. I refer you to the hail mary pardons, travelgate, whitewater, and on and on and on and on. If you are going to accuse, you should accuse across the board.
Another very naive point..stopping nuclear proliferation. It is NOT going to happen. It cannot happen. For it to happen, all parties have to be on board. Russia will never surrender its nukes. Iran will never surrender its nukes. If Israel ever surrenders it's nukes, they have signed their death warrant. Can we not be realistic about this??
thanks for calling me stupid ...
who knows? If you are half as smart as you think apparently think you are, yes indeedy -- maybe you could do it ... if you had become governor of a State!
I am tired of the slick, coached peoplel who simply regurgitate what the punduits tell them too. At least, for now, she is a real person ....
I can see why you like Obama -you have the same superiority attitude with a condescending nature ... LOL
that said, I really do not like him BUT I may vote for him - I truly haven't made up my mind yet.
LOL ....
It's about the issues, not the name-calling.
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Calling all rebpublicans.
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Calling all pubs.
xoxoxoxo
No sam, I'm not calling for anyone's head
this. Why are you making it so dem/pub?
rude you are. Calling
someone an 'old man' is showing a complete lack of respect.
thanks for calling me a liar --
on your party as I am a registered democrat -- got my "Are you supporting Obama?" call just last week. I told her then that I was undecided, but over the last few days, I have finally come to a decision. I'm voting McCain.
Your immaturity disproves your credibility (are those words too big for you?).
Your name calling reflects more on you....
than the object of it. Does it make you feel smug and superior?
I'm not the one calling him the messiah........sm
Check out some of the Obama supporter web sites if you don't believe that his own people are calling him that, Louis Farrakan for one. Here is what Farrakan has to say.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OowxMcVTjTE
Farrakan says: "You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change. And that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care anything about. That's a sign. When The Messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And The Messiah is absolutely speaking."
He is being tauted as the messiah by many of his supporters. IF he were the messiah, he would be coming down from heaven on the clouds riding a white horse and wielding a sword. Read Revelation 19:11-16.
calling names
 Vie:
I don't know which side of the bed or as I tend to think you crawled out UNDER, but to call people names on top of your irrational delusional rants about who said what here - you are truly asking to bet your feelings hurt here. As far as your comment about 'what are you going to say when you stand in front of God' to "M/SM"; I am sure they will say that they are glad they are NOT YOU. Don't go away mad - just go away..
Smears, name calling and
unsubstantiated accusations do not pass for intelligent political dialog. Seems like you have had plenty of time since November to absorb the reality that this kind of doo-doo is what lost the election for McC and his rogue sidekick. You might want to come up with a more inspired strategy.
Do you EVER stop the name-calling?
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There you go - another name calling insult
Can you try to have an adult convesation here instead of proving us right by repeatedly name calling and "trying" to ridicule those who don't agree with you.
But calling me a liar when you know nothing about me is...
so mature. At any rate, I did not make bad decisions. We bought the house three years ago (at the height of the market) and still paid less than it is worth today--in a West Coast state, no less. I would say that our decisions were just fine. And we did it without family money. My investment is sound and I will be fine. I just don't care for the fact that people who are defaulting on loans can refinance at lower rates, but if you are a responsible person who pays on time every time, you are SOL. This should irritate you, as well, if what you say is true. My big point was that even though my property assessment by the state went down in value, we will still b e paying more in taxes this year. That was it. And no, I am not lying.
Why the name calling? Isn't this a place where...
...people can feel free to express their opinions? Your post was just plain rude.
Calling all brainboxes.........
Yup, just what I thought.
Sarah Palin makes Sarah Palin look stupid!
The Democrats did not make Sarah Palin look stupid. Sarah Palin does a fine job of looking stupid without help from anyone. All she has to do is open her mouth!
I'd say that's the pot calling the kettle black, gt. sm
It's not up to you to judge who is Christian and who is not. Anyone who wishes for someone to burn in hell along with his family has no business especially judging anyone's Christianity. Good Lord.
They would be calling for his resignation, impeachment for sure.sm
The mayor and governor should have evacuated the people from the nursing homes since they knew that the levees were not stable enough to weather a category 4 hurricaine. The federal government should have acted to protect NO citizens as well. This is too sad and we shouldn't allow this to be brushed under the rug.
I have no interest in addressing your name calling, but
I will just say here that, once again, Peggy Noonan is spot-on. If you read the Conservative board with any regularity at all, it should come as no surprise that conservatives often disagree with GWB's spending; this is one of the two principal areas of disagreement that have been discussed over the past couple of years on the board. The other is border control.
At present, as Ms. Noonan says, he is better than the last alternative. He's also the only game in town as of right now, but he does need to be cautious about being too laissez-faire about alienating the conservative base.
IMHO, unless the Republicans come up with a candidate who is truly a fiscal conservative and is willing to prioritize and cut spending, he is setting Republicans up for another 1992 - a third party candidate siphoning off conservative votes and handing the election to the Democrats. Also IMHO (this will come as no surprise), that would not be a good thing.
Back to the Conservative board....sorry to intrude here, but I can't resist Peggy Noonan.
Exactly! And Randi Rhodes calling for...
the assassination of the President...hey, that's okay! If these people really read the posts on the conservative board, they would see that you, and myself, have said on occasion that sometimes Coulter is over the top. However, I have not heard her personalize it with a name and ask for their death, as did Bill Maher and Randi Rhodes. I guess if they are calling for the deaths of conservatives, well, hey...that's okay then,eh Dems??
Calling me a liar, saying out of context...
yet you totally ignore the portion that said Plame was not covert at the time Novak printed her name. There is only one way to read that. And you call me a liar. What a twisted, twisted set of values you have.
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