Why should he? The last time he produced a document

• Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis... - sm
  • Conspiracy Nuts - 2crazy
    • after Monday I - stumpgrinder
      • you are wrong on this one... - cj
    • Just stop the conspiracy by showing your long form BC...HMMM - sm
      • Why should he? The last time he produced a document - it fanned the flames. nm
      • OH MY GOD. This was funny at first, but it's - sm
        • The End of the World Is Coming! - stumpgrinder
  • the overwhelming view is that - stumpgrinder
    • If that was true then there would be no hearing - see message
      • There is no hearing today. - Only a conference....sm
      • Upwards of $500,000 versus $10.....sm - m
  • Thank you - have sent this to everyone I know - Everyone should be interested
    • We get it. That's why we are saying - there IS no constitutional crisis....sm
      • No you DON'T get it - Everyone should be interested
        • Don't waste your energy trying to engage - rational people in this foolishness...sm
          • Thanks - probably will save the sanity that way - Everyone should be interested
            • Evidently you are not following your own thread - very closely....sm
            • Birth certificate authentification - conspiracy doubter
              • So if this is true, then just produce your BC to the courts, hmmm... - sm
                • Conspiracy theorists will never allow themselves - to be part of national unity....sm
      • CLARENCE THOMAS IS A GOOD MAN. - YOU JUST HATE THE RIGHT, PERIOD.NM
        • compared to - stumpgrinder
        • How old were you when Anita Hill testified? - 4 or 5?.....sm
          • Anita Hill lied - there were two sides to the case - sm
            • You obviously failed to read the entire link. - There was plenty of evidence....sm
  • There IS no constitutional crisis. - Why not concentrate on a REAL crisis?...sm
    • Reasons there would be a constitutional crisis according to one expert... - sm
    • If Obama is discovered to be a fraud later, all his - signatures worthless -REAL crisis.nm
      • no such thing as - stumpgrinder
      • Like I said before, try focusing on a REAL crisis. - There are plenty to go around. nm
  • you do know internet petitions are worthless, right? nm - Amanda

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by conservatives.  You have indicated your acceptance of fisticuff diplomacy in detailing with world issues.  Typical bellicose conservative thinking.  If you can't force em to your viewpoint, punch em or threaten them with the US arm forces.

Not the original one.  That is why some people are questioning its authenticity.  I personally don't feel that this will be an issue since Obama's mom was an American citizen.  I think the thing that sticks out in some people's mind is that on his school records he was listed as a citizen to Indonesia....as well as his religion was listed as muslim.  Those are things that may not sit well with others.  Obviously people for Obama find it as no big deal but others do think it is worth looking at more carefully.

Like I've said before, if any other politician had the background and connections that Obama has had and still has......they wouldn't even be considered for president.  Their political career would be in the gutter.

If you really want to get technical about this, McCain wasn't born in the United States.  LOL.  He was born at a US military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone where his father was serving in the navy.  However, his parents were BOTH American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth.

    Friday 14 October 2005

    When the possibility of far-reaching war crimes and crimes against humanity exists, people of conscience have a solemn responsibility to inquire into the nature and scope of these acts and to determine if they do in fact rise to the level of war crimes and crimes against humanity. That is the mission of the International Commission of Inquiry on Crimes Against Humanity. The first session will be held October 21-22 in New York City. This tribunal will, with care and rigor, present evidence and assess whether George W. Bush and his administration have committed crimes against humanity. Well-established international law will be referenced where applicable, but the tribunal will not be limited by the scope of existing international law.

    The tribunal will deliberate on four categories of indictable crimes: 1) Wars of Aggression, with particular reference to the invasions and occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. 2) Torture and Indefinite Detention, with particular reference to the abandonment of international standards concerning the treatment of prisoners of war and the use of torture. 3) Destruction of the Global Environment, with particular reference to systematic policies contributing to the catastrophic effects of global warming. 4) Attacks on Global Public Health and Reproductive Rights, with particular reference to the genocidal effects of forcing international agencies to promote abstinence only in the midst of a global AIDS epidemic.

    The Commission's jury of conscience will be composed of internationally respected jurists and legal scholars, prominent voices of conscience, and experts and monitors in relevant fields. The tribunal's legitimacy is derived from its integrity, its rigor in the presentation of evidence, and the stature of its participants. Representatives of the Bush administration will be invited to present a defense.

    Prior to the meeting of the Commission, teams with sufficient expertise will prepare preliminary indictments in each of the four areas, setting forth the scope of the Bush administration's actions and how they contravene legal and moral norms for international behavior. At the meeting of the Commission, there will be four prosecution teams that organize the presentation of the evidence. This evidence will be documents as well as eyewitness testimony by victims and observers of the crimes alleged. The formal proceedings will be held in a public venue and all attempts will be made to publicize and broadcast its deliberations internationally. The Commission's jury of conscience will come to verdicts and its findings will be published.

    The holding of this tribunal will frame and fuel a discussion that is urgently needed in the United States: Is the administration of George W. Bush guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity? The Commission will conduct its work with a deep sense of responsibility to the people of the world.

    The Commission is sponsored by the Not In Our Name statement of conscience, joined by the following individuals and organizations:

• James Abourezk, former United States Senator
  
  
  
• As'ad AbuKhalil, professor of politics & public administration, California State University-Stanislaus
  
  
  
• Dirk Adriaensens, Brussells Tribunal executive committee and coordinator SOS Iraq
  
  
  
• Dr. Nadje al-Ali, social anthropologist at the University of Exeter, founding member of Act Together: Women's Action on Iraq  and member Women in Black UK
  
  
  
• Anthony Alessandrini, organizer with the World Tribunal on Iraq and New York University Students for Justice in Palestine
  
  
  
• Edward Asner
  
  
  
• Russell Banks, novelist
  
  
  
• The Rev. Luis Barrios, Ph.D., associate professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice & Anglican Priest
  
  
  
• Amy Bartholomew, professor of law at Carleton University
  
  
  
• Greg Bates, Common Courage Press
  
  
  
• Phyllis Bennis, Institute for Policy Studies
  
  
  
• Michael S. Berg, grieving father of Nick Berg killed in Iraq May 7, 2004, and one man for Peace
  
  
  
• Ayse Berktay, from the organizing team of the World Tribunal on Iraq
  
  
  
• William Blum, author of Killing Hope: US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II and Rogue State: A Guide to the World's Only Superpower
  
  
  
• Francis Boyle, author of Destroying World Order and professor at the University of Illinois College of Law
  
  
  
• Jean Bricmont, Brussells Tribunal executive committee
  
  
  
• Marjorie Cohn, professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law and executive vice president of National Lawyers Guild
  
  
  
• Lieven De Cauter, Brussells Tribunal executive committee
  
  
  
• Patrick Deboosere, Brussells Tribunal executive committee
  
  
  
• Michael Eric Dyson
  
  
  
• Peter Erlinder, William Mitchell College of Law and lead defense counsel, United Nations Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda, Arusha, Tanzania
  
  
  
• Larry Everest, author of Oil, Power & Empire: Iraq and the U.S. Global Agenda and Behind the Poison Cloud: Union Carbide's Bhopal Massacre
  
  
  
• Richard Falk, professor emeritus of International Law, Princeton, and Visiting Professor in Global and International Studies, UC-Santa Barbara
  
  
  
• Thomas M. Fasy, MD, Mount Sinai School of Medicine, New York City
  
  
  
• Lawrence Ferlinghetti, member, American Academy of Arts & Letters and founder & editor in chief, City Lights Books, San Francisco
  
  
  
• Ted Glick, former coordinator, Independent Progressive Politics Network
  
  
  
• Dr. Elaine C. Hagopian, former president of Association of Arab-American University Graduates (AAUG) and primary founder of the Trans-Arab Research Institute (TARI)
  
  
  
• Sam Hamill, director, Poets Against War
  
  
  
• International Movement for a Just World (JUST), Malaysia
  
  
  
• Abdeen Jabara, past president, American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
  
  
  
• Dahr Jamail, U.S. independent journalist who has reported extensively from Iraq since the invasion
  
  
  
• C. Clark Kissinger, contributing writer for Revolution and initiator of the Not In Our Name statement of conscience
  
  
  
• The Reverend Doctor Earl Kooperkamp, Rector, St. Mary's Episcopal Church, West Harlem, New York City
  
  
  
• Joel Kovel, editor-in-chief, Capitalism Nature Socialism: A Quarterly Journal of Socialist Ecology, and author of The Enemy of Nature
  
  
  
• Jesse Lemisch, professor of history emeritus, John Jay College of Criminal Justice
  
  
  
• Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor of Tikkun magazine and author of The Left Hand of God: Taking Back America from the Religious Right
  
  
  
• New Jersey Civil Rights Defense Committee
  
  
  
• New Jersey Workers Democracy Network
  
  
  
• National Lawyers Guild
  
  
  
• National Lawyers Guild, San Francisco Bay Area Chapter
  
  
  
• Rev. Davidson Loehr, Ph.D., First Unitarian Universalist Church of Austin, Texas
  
  
  
• Robert Meeropol, Executive Director, Rosenberg Fund for Children
  
  
  
• Barbara Olshansky, deputy legal director of the Center for Constitutional Rights and author of Secret Trials and Executions
  
  
  
• James Petras, professor emeritus of sociology at Binghamton University, New York
  
  
  
• Jeremy Pikser, screenwriter
  
  
  
• Michael Ratner, president of the Center for Constitutional Rights and author with Ellen Ray of Guantanamo: What the World Should Know
  
  
  
• Stephen F. Rohde, civil liberties lawyer and co-founder of Interfaith Communities United for Justice and Peace
  
  
  
• Marc Sapir MD, MPH, co-convener of the UC Berkeley Teach In on Torture and executive director of Retro Poll
  
  
  
• Sister Annette M. Sinagra, OP
  
  
  
• State of Nature on-line magazine
  
  
  
• Inge Van de Merlen, Brussells Tribunal executive committee
  
  
  
• Gore Vidal
  
  
  
• Anne Weills, civil rights attorney in Oakland, National Lawyers Guild
  
  
  
• Leonard Weinglass, criminal defense attorney
  
  
  
• Naomi Weisstein, professor emeritus of Neuroscience, State University of NY at Buffalo
  
  
  
• Howard Zinn, historian
  
  
  

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      The 2005 International Commission of Inquiry on War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration of the United States: Sessions take place Friday, October 21, 4-10pm, and Saturday, October 22, Noon-6pm, at the Grand Ballroom of the Manhattan Center, 311 W. 34th Street, New York City, NY.

This board will return to a dead state too

Posted By: huh? on 2006-03-10,
In Reply to: Oh, she revealed it on the Conservative Board - ??

The stupid rules have made these boards a place where only crickets chirp. Its sad that people are so childish and cannot discuss things like mature adults. This is why these boards will remain a snoozeville, because some people are not capable of mature conversation and get insulted by anyone who does not believe exactly like they do, but if you like it dead here...by all means enjoy the silence.

I watched a TV broadcast; it evoked thoughts in my mind. The thoughts irritated me. I FELT uneasy and I THOUGHT I could print the same on this board and why. This is, after all, still America despite the speech police and this is, after all still the liberal board.

I'm sorry you feel the need to throw the little personal zingers in.

I couldn't disagree more.  I think Obama is going to be torn apart if he is the nominee, more so than Clinton would.  Really, I just do not like the guy.  I think he is totally arrogant, along with his wife , and I do not believe for a minute that he is honest.  Of course, Clinton isn't either.  They're both lousy.

Yes, Ron Paul is out of the race...that's what I said, loooool.  In my opinion, he was the only person who ran that would be worthy of the presidency.

cuddle session for the cameras he can whisper it into Bush's soft, pink shelllike ear.