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Why don't you research the tactics and find

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-08-21
In Reply to: Still, nobody puts a gun to their heads - reality check

out what's true. If you still don't care, then that's just on you.


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I need to change tactics...

I should probably refrain from any dialogue and perhaps just correct posts that are obviously erroneous (like the one about poverty in the U.S.).  Correcting factual errors on their posts would probably be a full time job.  Besides I enjoy the research and learn lots!!


Thanks for reading and thanks for your comments.


I like what McCain said about the tactics not
allowing media to always be right on the scene and privy to knowledge they needn't have are that our enemies can retrieve the same info they feel the American public should know and anticipate our next moves. There are some things that should be kept quiet but media in this day and age seem to feel nothing is off limits. I agree with McCain on that point. As for "promising" to find bin Laden, I have only read that McCain says he knows how to find him and will follow him to the Gates of HeII to do so. Not saying he didn't promise it elsewhere, but I only read the above.
Smear tactics?
Obama was asked this question, one of a few journalist with some integrity, as to why he allowed these women to be removed? After all, he knew it but didn't stop it. He stumbled and fumbled and fumbled and stuttered for words because he is so used to having no one ask him the hard questions, he didn't know what he should say because anything at that point would have been back peddling and he knew it.

Obama out of his own mouth, not made up stuff like you want to believe, said he had gotten himself a little 'ole Muslim liason to help smooth things over, because the last people he wants to offend are the Muslims, Heaven forbid he offends the Muslims. The heck with offending the taxpayer by insinuating they are too dumb to handle their own lives, so he'll handle it for ya by providing all your needs.
Mostly just scare tactics
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Can you say scare tactics? sm
I knew you could.

I hope your dad's phone has caller ID and that he reports this call to the authorities and to the telephone company.
sounds like intimidation tactics...
I am the original poster and I stick with my original post and my opinion.

it was called as I saw it. it was 'questionable' to me and something I WILL consider when time to make that choice.

this country is full of children whose parents are too busy working or attending to their own needs. schools not only provide lunches for children anymore, they provide breakfast, and even dinners for some. more and more children are being pawned off as the responsibility of those other than the parents, babysitters, government, day care, on and on, and more and more are left to the horrors of predators, on-line, off-line, in their schools, in their playgrounds.

I was looking for some sign of what kind of mother this person is and I was not happy with what I saw, period.

no one was trying to put anyone back to barefoot and pregnant, or whatever you wrote. BUT if they wanted that it is their business.

frankly, I have always envied women who did not have to work and could stay home and raise their beautiful children. that was a luxury I never had nor did my children.

that is my opinion.
More like a voice of scare tactics.
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desperate smear tactics. nm
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Just more scare-tactics propaganda. nm
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More scare tactics...just in a rhyme!
Go Obama!
C'mon, GP.....maybe not scare tactics....
maybe honest concern. Just because Obama won, you think that all disappears? Of course not. Had Obama lost, would all your concerns about McCain just magically disappear? I would think, based on your posts, you could be a little more charitable about it. Your guy won. Don't expect the rest of us to embrace him immediately. We have a trust issue and it is up to him to work his way out of that. Being sniped at by his supporters does not help us in that journey. :-)
I don't take pride in underhanded tactics to win
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Sounds a bit too much like Bush's tactics.
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Didn't say I agree with his tactics.....
Just noticing how poster doesn't seem to care for anyone protesting against gays.

It wouldn't matter if it were ANYONE from ANY church, poster would have a problem with that too!

I think Rev Phelps needs to do a little more Bible reading. His methods are sickening.
channel 2 reported on recruiters tactics
Channel 2 did a bit on their nightly news.  I believe it was a college paper reporter who went undercover and told the recruiters he had done drugs and other things that would have disqualified him and the recruiters were salivating at the thought of signing him up and told him ways to get into the service even though. These recruiters would take a dead man if his body was still warm, for pete sake.  I say, you need people in the military, check out the people in the administration, ask if their children will join for the *better good of all to bring democracy to the world*.
No scare tactics. Just pointing out that we don't live
If we don't start talking with some of these countries, and trying to find a way to get them thinking of other things to do with their artillery than aim it at us, then sooner or later, our little plastic bubble could get blown to bits. We're not invincible.
Republican Mantra - Scare Tactics
You better vote for John McCain or the Boogeyman is going to get us. McCain couldn't even keep himself free from the enemy, how is he going to keep the entire United States free from them? Oh, I know, he is going to send Sarah Palin after the Boogeyman...she'll protect us!
Scare tactics!! Ohhh, be afraid, be very
afraid.  You rightwingers are such wimps!  Well, as Roosevelt once said and as Barack Hussein Obama repeats, "We have nothing to fear but fear itself."  The rightwingers have surely gotten to the skittish.  I, for one, am very afraid of McPalin.  Now there's reason to fear them. They have nothing to offer, just more of the same old politics and power-hungry greed.  Get away from me!  If you want to base your decisions on lies, then you all deserve whatever comes from McPalin, but the thing is that our country will be stuck in the mire for another four years.  So big deal, McCain was shot out of the sky...so were hundreds of others, others have given their lives for this country but McCain votes against any bill that will cost anything to help them....some leader he will make.  Makes me wanna puke!  Country First...doubt it!!
Scare tactics or stern warnings.....sm
Just got to thinking about this after ExMQMT made the statements she did below about being scared. Now, I know there was an element of sarcasm in her post, and I can appreciate the dark humor of it.

However, I think people really should look at the big picture here and understand that, with all of the findings (and yes, they are documented) of Obama's associations and religious upbringing, he could very possibly be a threat to our nation in a lot of ways. When the Russians were "loaded for moose" back in the 1950s, people were warned about the danger, but a lot of them chose to call it scare tactics. Granted, Russia never blew us off the map, but knowing that they could and that they were a threat to our country made our citizens more aware that there was more to life than what was going on in their own secure back yard. Saying that Obama is a threat to us because of his associations and religious beliefs (Muslim or Wright-brand religion) is not a scare tactic to coerce people into voting for him. It is a stern warning that this man is a wolf in sheep's clothing and that we need to be aware of the implications of electing someone who is such a person.
Scare tactics? If it was supposed to be scary....it wasn't...
it is just odd that the combination of the names worked out that way. Freaky, yes. Scary...not hardly. It it was meant to be scary it was lost on this Independent.
Disgusting! Pure racism and fear tactics. nm
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find out. I find sam's posts to the point
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I couldn't find that one but I did find this

S.Amdt.4170: To protect families, family farms and small businessees by extending the income tax rate structure, raising the death tax exemption to $5 million and reducing the maximum death tax rate to no more than 35%; to keep education affordable extending the college tuition deduction; and to protect senior citizens from higher taxes on their retirement income, maintain U.S. financial market competitiveness, and promote economic growth by extending the lower tax rates on dividents and capital gains.


NAY: Biden and Obama   YEA: McCalin


I.E., this is in the voting record in the public records. There are not too many voting records there for the O since he started his campaign and most of those he voted NAY or say Not Voting.


 


Well, then, please find me one that you find to be racist.

You had better do some better research. sm
Hillary, at the cost of millions of dollars from her special forces team (none of whom knew a thing about writing a health care bill, including herself) put together an over 1300 page "booklet" which was such a dismal failure, not even the democrats would get behind it.  Ted Kennedy wants socialized medicine.  Ask Canada and England what they think of socialized medicine. You really can't go around blaming republicans for everything without at least doing some research. 
did my research
Oh, I did my research and I lived through the times when President Clinton and the First Lady tried to get a universal health plan.  The republicans wanted nothing to do with it.  Socialized health care?  Better than no health care for millions of americans.  At least President Clinton got the country talking about universal health care, more than Bush has done.  All Bush has done is push his programs that benefit the rich.  Example, his tax cuts.  The rich got over 91,000 dollars in tax cuts each, the working class got 200 to 300 dollars, I didnt get anything.  Bush is a disaster and I think you need to do a bit of research. Conservative equals not wanting change.  Liberal means wanting to change and progress and move forward with new ideas, plans, bettering the country.  You conservatives are stuck in the 1940s and 1950s mentality.  Gotta tell ya, time moves on and if you dont move and grow with it, you will be left behind. It is obvious conservatism is a dying ideology, liberalism and sharing among the people of the world is the ideology of the future.
Do a little research on...
the bombings in Yugoslavia and the targeted bombings of civilians.  Secondly, one coulud make an argument (you certainly would have if GWB had been president from 1992 until 2000) that Al-Qaeda ratched up it's attacks and most certainly planned the entire 9/11 attack during Clintons administration.  From the 1993 failed WTC attack right on  through all the rest, until the end of term, one cannot even argue that Bin Laden was left unchecked and unhindered. 
Do some research
If you really care about why Jews believe life begins with the first breath, do some research, starting in the Old Testament. There is a lot of information available on the internet. I don't care to explain it all, when I really don't think you give a hoot about what I believe.

Basically, it is a matter of soul. We don't believe one has a soul until we are born and take our first breath.
Please...do the research....
even those scientists in search of grants who agree with him for that express purpose, conclude that he "might be a little off" on some things...saying that the catastrophic things he implies are imminent are MILLENIA away...that means thousands of years. Fossil fuels will be long gone by then and so will we. So...has NOTHING to do with peace.
It's you who needs to research/think
but I won't take any bets on either!

Are you really unable to follow what is meant by "MCcain voted 'with Bush'...? here's a clue: its not meant to be taken literally. MCCAIN VOTED FOR BUSH POLICIES 90% of the time. Do you still not get it?

And, my post wasn't about the DEMOCRATS - it was about McCain's voting record! But change the subject if you want...
anything but respond to the factual point(s)I made.

After you go do your research, come back and report WHETHER OR NOT McCain supported Bush's policies (voted for) anything near the 90% range...

For the record, I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT, nor do I defend them.
All you have to do is the research...
Democrats were at the top of this, Democrats passed the "reform" that was the straw that broke the camel's pack. Smoke and mirrors, deny, deny. It's all out there for anyone to see...Raines and Gorelick. Cleaned up at the American peoples' expense.
This one isn't. Research it. nm
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research it.....sm
I don't have time to do it for you, but all these CEOs of all these big corps that have gone under? Liberal democrats, probably all of them. Just look around for the info. It's there.

Makes me sick the way they blame George Bush and the Republicans, when it was the liberal congress getting their pockets lined to keep legislation from passing that would have kept fannie and freddie from happening, and whole boatload of other crap from happening.

Blame game...blame the republicans, when it's really yourself that caused the problem.

At least I just heard McCain finally get some kahunas and called Obama on his ties to all this.



You are SO right! I did some research on
this myself in the Journal of Socialist Affairs in America, and this was undeniably what was happening. A similar view is put forth on the unifyingamerica.org website. George Soros, Bill Rudgear, and Jonah Winston have just GOT to go!
He are a few. Do a little more research yourself instead...sm
of putting your faith in what a right-wing rag has to say. If your read all those requisitions for grants they were all for worthy causes in a poor Chicago neighborhood, children/youth/elderly programs. Because there was no oversight on how the money was spent it appears that some of the grant money that went to 1 of the organizations may have been misspent and is under investigation. This happened way back in 2000. In 2006 when Obama was no longer in the Illinois legislature, this same organization was given an additional $20,000. Do you want to blame Obama for that too? I venture to say I have done more research on the subject than you have.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/1184049,CST-NWS-watchdog25.article

http://www.judicialwatch.org/documents/2008/DCEO_1.pdf

http://www.illinois.gov/pressreleases/ShowPressRelease.cfm?SubjectID=3&RecNum=1378


Research is everything.......it keeps getting
Don't forget that factcheck.org is part of the Annenberg School at the University of Pennsylvania and is funded by the Annenberg Foundation that employed Obama in Chicago.


do some research
For starters, they have the highest tax in the nation (10.25, as I recall my sister telling me, who lives there).  Major militants.  Their idea of replacing a retired politician is neoptism.  I don't recall the name, but my sister was telling me about it.  They also pay big-time for car emission tests, stuff like that.  Do some research and see what you think.  After all, it's the home of Rev. Wright & Father Phleger.
Research this.....

Perhaps there are SOME out there who are beginning to get 'the picture'.
The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised "Meet The
Press'. and the author is employed by none other than the Washington Post!!
Yeah......the Washington Post of New York and Los Angeles Times fame!! Must
say that I'm dually impressed..................


From Sunday's Televised "Meet the Press" Senator Obama was asked about his


stance on the American Flag. Obama Explains National Anthem Stance


Sun, 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked


Obama to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is
played. The General also stated to the Senator that according to the United
States Code,


Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem


when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected
to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. At
the very least, "Stand and Face It"
Senator Obama Live on Sunday states, "As I've said about the flag pin, I


don't want to be perceived as taking sides, Obama said. 'There are a lot of
people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And
the anthem itself conveysa war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in
air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less
bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing.' If that
were our anthem, then I might salute it."We should consider to reinvent our
National Anthem as well as to redesign our Flag to better offer our enemies
hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the


level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we as a Nation of
warring people, should conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam, whereas
peace prevails. Perhaps a state or period of mutual concord between our
governments. When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end
hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and
a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed
upon the nations of Islam anunfair injustice. My wife disre spects the Flag
for many personal reasons. Together she and I have attended several flag
burning ceremonies in the past, many years ago. She has herviews and I have
mine". Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of
the United States and I have put aside my hatred. I will use my power to
bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path of hope. My
wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First Family. Indeed,
CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America.
WHAAAAAAAT the HEL**!!!


Yes, ladies and gentlemen, you heard it right. This could possibly be our


next President.I, for one, am speechless.
Dale Lindsborg, Washington Post


Maybe YOU should research it
http://www.startribune.com/local/31213379.html?elr=KArks8c7PaP3E77K_3c::D3aDhUMEaPc:E7_ec7PaP3iUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiU
Do a little research
for yourself.  I'm sure you can find a snippet on the internet somewhere.  Find it and hear whatever you want to hear or hear what was said, no concern of mine what you want to think.
Do you ever do your own research?
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Do your research if you want
The information came from the Teamster's newsletter.  The issues and voting dates are there in the previous post.  Shouldn't be hard to verify the Wasilla Police Dept, also.
Okay, my research says -
publicly funded hospitals cannot refuse abortions, privately owned hospitals can.

Doctors and support staff can refuse to perform abortions or to assist physicians in abortions.
Thank you...I will research this a bit more
before I make a decision, but I at least don't believe that anyone placed it there to harm anyone on purpose. Unfortunately, these things do happen, even here at home, i.e., Hinkley, which is not too far from where I grew up. Not to say that it is okay, but certainly I don't think it is intentional. Just handled poorly once discovered. Thank you for your kind thoughts and wishes and, of course, I pray that my husband is not subjected to such things. I might feel differently if he were. I am with you about what military receives in return. We need a raise!!! Hope you have a Merry Christmas!
You need to do some research
The following appeared in the Durham, N.C., local paper as a letter to the Editor on Feb. 15, 2004.

Liberals claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war. They complain about his prosecution of it. One liberal recently claimed Bush was the worst president in U.S. history. Let's clear up one point: We didn't start the war on terror. Try to remember, it was started by terrorists BEFORE 9/11!

Let's look at the "worst" president and mismanagement claims:

FDR led us into World War II. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year.

Truman finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,333 per year.

John F. Kennedy started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. Johnson turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5800 per year.

Clinton went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing. Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions.

In the two years since terrorists attacked us, President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled Al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Lybia, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people. We lost 600 soldiers, an average of 300 a year. Bush did all this abroad while not allowing another terrorist attack at home.

Worst president in history? Think about it!

Research?
So your idea of research is reading a Bloomberg post and then calling people names? Under whose watch did the bank failures occur? Under whose watch was deregulation an obsession?

Chavez is almost as crazy as the GOP, so I take anything he says as seriously as anything the congressional GOP says.

Like it or not, if banks are insolvent then the entire worldwide economy grinds to a stinking halt. You think global unrest is bad now? You ain't seen nothing yet.

I hope your transcribing expertise is a little better than your understanding of politics and economics.

Sheesh...
Do more research...
They have found a gene.
Please do some more research - nm
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Yep, you did your research......(sm)
too bad it didn't have anything to do with the topic being discussed. 
Yep, you did your research......(sm)
too bad it didn't have anything to do with the topic being discussed. 
Yes, I am also going to research some of these s/m

things brought up in the film.  As far as believing if our government is capable of risking and taking lives of their own people, I absolutely do believe that it has been done many times in the past, so Bush and Cheney are by far not the only potential villains to the story.  I have a good friend who is writing a book based on her brother's life (he died last year) detailing some of his experiences being involved as an operative connected to the US Military as well as the CIA. and he confided these goings on to her before he died, and she said it is extremely explosive stuff.  I had her watch the movie just to get her opinion, and she related to me that this stuff is not at all surprising to her, based on the stories she heard from her brother.


Regardless of what you might believe or not believe about this movie, it is provocative and thought provoking and very interesting in all the "coincidences" that seem to be wrapped around these events and bears more than just a glancing interest by anyone who is concerned about the state of our country today.


So thank you for at least checking it out for yourself and not jumping on me for just trying to open up some sort of grown-up dialogue on this.