Whoever wanted what.., the fact..
Posted By: MT1 on 2009-03-03
In Reply to: Bush vs Obama on the current crisis - mythbuster
is that from 1995 to 2001, the Republicans were in control of Congress with a Democratic president, and from 2001 to only 2 or 3 years ago, there was both a Republican president and a Republican congress. So, I think it's pretty obvious what party to point a finger at for the economic mess we are in now, not to mention the other problems. Also, the majority of the bad loans that turned sour were not made to simple homeowners, but speculators and 2nd home buyers. How many people do you know that are losing their actual home? And how many do you know that are losing a 2nd home or investment properties? Compare the figures and you will see. Personally, I don't know of anyone personally losing their actual home. But I know of a dozen or so personally who are losing their investment properties.
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I just wanted to post the same. The fact that they
were released is proof that they are innocent.
How would you react if somebody imprisoned you, tortured you, waterboards you, keeps you in a box with caterpillars, kicks you, beats you, puts you into stress positions until your 'eyes fall out,' affixed to electrical current and God knows what else about we are kept uninformed, and this for years and years? And this only on grounds of 'suspicion?'
Finally your innocence is proven and you are released.
Wouldn't you thank your rescuer on your knees and thank God?
What feelings would you have toward your torturers?
I know, it is a waste of my breath and my energy, because now the whole vicious cycle with bashing, insutls, tit-and-tat and playing grammar- and spelling-police starts all over again.
It is sooooooo frustrating.
It is all about justice, torturing innocent people and taking away from their innocent life 7 (seven) years.
Don't tell me again that
'terrorists are not covered by the Geneva conventions.'
because 90% of the prisoners in Abu Ghraib and Gitm were innocent!
Why are you still loyal to your leaders who authorized the torture in Abu Ghraib and Gitmo? Those detainees are innocent, now they are released and now SOME are after YOU. You, we, the American citizens are the victims of these wrong decisions taken by the former administration.
My post contain no bashing and no insults, jsut disagreements with other posters.
Disagreement is not bashing or insulting, as long as it does not ontain foul language and slander!
Let's see who throws the first stone, this will be the guilty one.
The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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I never said I wanted the
government to take care of everything and everybody. I want the government to be responsible to its citizens. They work for us. Expecting elderly retirees to get a job or go to college is ridiculous. These people deserve better. I am not complaining about my life. I am reiterating to you what I see here in the Sunshine State. It is all about money all the time. Many people I know will be able to regroup and hold their lives together but I don't understand why the collapse of the middle class is just all right with you. That is my point. No need to go into the pull yourself up by your bootstraps argument. We will never see eye to eye on that. This is about our country being in debt out the wazoo, borrowing money from China to fight a war no one wants in Iraq and middle class people being downsized into poverty. It is not about being lazy or having choices. It is about the sad sorry state of our union.
Yep, just like the DNC wanted you to...
to move the cLintons on their way out. The DNC did not want Hillary from the get-go, and the media helped them accomplish it. And here you are rewarding them by electing the perps. LOL. sigh. Poor Hillary...pilloried by her own.
Thank you - that was all I wanted to know (sm)
sad how many people don't know the answer and just want to dismiss it without even knowing though.
Just wanted to add
I in no way mean to indicate that everyone receiving any type of public aid spends the whole day watching soaps and eating bon bons. Just that a large portion of them (at least in my area) do just that and have lived off it for years as opposed to using it as a temporary crutch while they try to get back on their feet.
Yep, I know....just wanted to be sure all...
of the information was out there and that what Bush did is vastly different than what Obama is proposing. And apparently it is working because they are lining up for the ice cream and defending him right down the line...lol.
Just wanted to say.................. sm
Merry Christmas!
That's not what I wanted to see.
DH has been talking about moving there for a couple years. He loves Canada.
I hate the cold. Think I'm going to show this to him? Nah. 
I just wanted to say thanks.
This is the first time that a discussion on same sex marriage has been a good discussion without personal attacks, etc. Thanks for sharing your point of view with me.
I wanted to, but DH said no.
We have 50 tomato plants in containers, 25 pepper plants (green, hot, hotter, and hotter then he!!), 10 potato plant containers (x6 cuttings in each), and 10 containers of cukes. The only thing we planted in the ground was beans, onions, and radishes. All doing fantastic. Already have a hot pepper and some tomatoes and this weather sucks this year, only 60 damp, dreary, rainy all week...again. Surprised the plants are doing so well.
We also have about 5 tomato plants coming up in the ground from last year.
I was wondering how your garden was doing. Thanks for letting me know.
Well, call me what you want, but I wanted to know.
I say use God's name when you're speaking the truth. If it's truth point it out to me.
What I wanted to know to start with...
is how can I know that Democrats/liberals/the left, WHOEVER, will keep this country safe, when half of them deny there is a threat and the other half have no idea how to deal with it? What I said it was not political, I meant it. Both sides should be trying to protect this country, but frankly I only see one who seems to understand the threat. As I have said numerous times, I am not a registered Repbulican. I am not thrilled with any party in this country right now, but I have to register as SOMETHING to vote, so I am registered independent. Yes, I am conservative, I have conservative moral values and I believe if we had stuck closer to moral values we would have a lot fewer issues these days, but I digress. My concern is, Dem, that I don't think your party and many of its members grasp what a real threat radical Muslims are, and if you don't perceive the threat you don't take steps to fight it, and that is the reason I referred to Clinton, because in all honesty I do not think he perceived the threat. I do not want to think that he did and ignored it. And my point is, I don't think your party to this day perceives the enormity of the threat, and yes, that scares me. This is not rhetoric. This is the way I, me, personally, feel and has nothing to do with left or right Dems or Republicans, other than the Republicans do seem to have a better grasp on the threat than the Dems do. What I would like to see is America united against the threat, with politics out of it. That is what I would REALLY like to see.
Yes I did, and I never said I wanted free...
healthcare for myself. I want free or more affordable cost healthcare for American children. My children are already covered. My husband has worked for the same company for over 12 years, and he has decent insurance. You are impossible to argue with because you refuse to admit that we can afford $333 MILLION PER DAY FOR A WAR IN IRAQ, AND WE CAN AFFORD $19 MILLION PER DAY FOR CHILDREN'S HEALTH CARE. How are your taxes going to be raised to 70% of your income for the health care? Have they been raised that high for the war? NO, so your argument is not valid.
Just wanted to say I agree with you. sm
Thanks for saying it. I think it bears repeating: We are animals too (sorry, can't say I care what it does or doesn't say about that in the Bible), the human race is highly overrated LOL, and yeah, what about population control?!
Humans are already using up 30% more of the Earth's resources each year than the Earth can replace (according to a report by Anderson Cooper I saw some months back), and that's at the current worldwide population, which is only expected to increase. What ARE we going to do when we run out of space, and food, water, trees...?
If we're not animals and we're "above" them, we should be smarter about the Earth and all the creatures on it than we have been, and I just don't see the evidence for that.
someone wanted to see SP interview?
well sunday night on fox, greta vansusteren will interview her. greta is a v. good interviewer too, (with good questions, listens to the answers, etc, if you are not familiar with her).
THe way he was smirking....I would not have wanted to...
look at him either. Not very Presidential. lol.
When did I say I wanted to live in
a Socialist society. I don't. Neither do I want an unstable person with a fiery temper with his hand on the nuke button.
I think he meant he wanted it available to everyone -
he never said he would require you to buy what the government offered - that was more Hillary's plan. He just says he wants it available if you don't have insurance.
They wanted Bush to do that and he said no because
it would lower the value of our dollar.
If China wanted to do that...(sm)
they would have already done it when the economic crisis hit. We already owe them tons of money. I think they would make out better collecting interest off us than spending their resources trying to "control" us, which would eventually lead to yet another war. What I think should be in the bill is help for those who need it immediately (the ones who have already lost jobs and extending state funds to make budgets) and infrastructure, infrastructure, infrastructure, green job advancement. This can't be outsourced, it generates revenue, it provides jobs, and its needed. The more people we put back to work or keep at work, the better chance we have of paying these bills off through taxable income.
I know it looks like an enormous amount of money to be going into debt for (and it is), but at this point I don't think we have any choice. If you want to talk national security, a depression would leave us much more vulnerable than being in debt. Being vulnerable is not an option at this point.
Maybe she wanted an Ipod? LOL...sm
http://mediamatters.org/items/200904020002
Can you possibly be more trivial?
It is about what the PEOPLE want - and they wanted this
Finally the legislators vote what the people want!!!
I wanted actually to know your thoughts. Not an article. nm
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In one paragraph you have not only told me more than I ever wanted to know.
You have outlined and described in perfect detail the problem with why your arguments can never be recognized as anything but dividing. Gt, believe me, this is not all about you, which it always seems to end up being about in your posts. The fact that you refuse, not fail, but refuse to accept anything, any explanation, any single example of the image you project as well as your close-minedness, is illustrated in every post that you make.
Yeah, you're right...but if he really wanted ...
publicity he could have had Britney Spears' guy design him a set and he could have announced it from there.
For people who wanted me banned ....
you certainly want to continue to engage me.
There is media bias. They want Obama elected. They did it to Hillary too, just not to this degree.
How is this coming out swinging? How is this different from posting pro Obama items?
Are you really this intolerant?
McNasty wanted to suspend the RNC, too., sm
because of the hurricane. Guess he's going to be The Suspender! There's more to this than meets the eye. He's running scared, poor old man.
Poster below is correct: He needs to learn how to multitask--that's what the presidency is all about.
Personally, I'm looking forward to the Biden/Palin debate. Since she compares herself to a pitbull, hunts helpless animals from a helicopter, stuck "her" 3-day-old infant under her desk so she could work, I hope he rips her a new one! She ain't no lady and certainly does not have my respect.
Have you ever thought maybe she wanted a baby
My cousin at 16 wanted a baby. Her parents tried talking her out of it. Explained what her life would be like. Told her about safe sex, birth control, etc. She still got pregnant and had a beautiful baby and she's a good mother. My other cousin (her sister) wanted a baby. Again my aunt and uncle talked to her. At 17 she had her baby and she is a wonderful mother.
So think people....it is possible her daughter wants a baby. Especially if all of her friends are having babies.
If you really wanted to you would have put Clinton on the ticket.
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What do you mean? I thought that was what Bush wanted to do.
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Good grief is right. I just wanted to
read any cases he cited myself because this is a very gray area and I would like a better understanding of the law.
Excuse me for asking for cases.
Yeah, right. You checked what you wanted to see.
I saw her on an interview the other night. The host did not tear her to shreds like Gibson and Couric did. He asked sensible questions and she gave sensible answers. Gibson and Couric set her up big time to make a fool out of her and don'cha know they're for the O? They were downright spiteful.
Katie did it to up her ratings since she's not doing so great at CBS. Gibson did it because he was told to do it. (NBC=MSNBC)
I decided then that I would not watch either of those 2 so-called reported again. To each his own and this is MY opinion.
That's okay, too. You just stated you wanted our reasons
why, so I stated mine. Won't let that happen again, though. From now on, I think I'll just read and not post. I didn't think my reasons would be dissected. I thought this was only a poll. Have a blessed day! 
Bin Laden wanted to bankrupt the US. sm
Supporters of the Bush administration like to say that there have been no terrorist attacks on US soil since the tragedy of September 11, 2001, suggesting that President Bush has kept the country safe from terrorism. What they forget is that Osama Bin Laden clearly outlined his strategy for battling America, not by flying more planes into new buildings, but by driving the US into bankruptcy.
It was BUSH and MCCAIN who wanted to
not the dems, check your facts
If Bush wanted to lead s/m
I think a nice black tie BBQ would have satisfied protocol. Beer goes real well with BBQ and it doesn't cost $300 a bottle. Maybe Bush is still clinging to "the economy is fundamentally sound." Maybe he'd like to tell that to my single parent neighbor who was laid off from her manufacturing job yesterday after 15 years because they're moving the plant to MEXICO.
I wanted to glue her backside........sm
to the chair! I am not saying that Obama didn't deserve applause during his speech, but every sentence he uttered was not "standing ovation material." I agree....and there were a couple of times I thought Joe might say something to her but either he didn't or it didn't do any good. She looked like a cheerleader!
I, too, was waiting for some kind of financial scarifice on the part of the President and congressment, but I knew it would never happen. They could certainly save the country a bundle by yanking the Golden Fleece program. They have 4 former Presidents and who knows how many former congressmen still on the payroll. That should save the country a few bucks! But those are scenarios that you will never see come to pass.
So, if Obama wanted to "truly" get us in the right
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Clinton wanted every one to own a home
OH MY GOSH, BLAME IT ON BUSH.
http://thevirtuousrepublic.com/?p=1439
Link plays a video by Pelosi.
By the way, the dumb witch lies about the Bush record and she goes on about deregulation, but in reality, President Bush did try to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but was stymied by a minority of Democrats in the Senate:
For many years the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at a housing government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties. President Bush publicly called for GSE reform 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted. Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President’s repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
SO MUCH MORE READING ABOUT THE TRUTH.
I say GOOD FOR HIM! They wanted change...
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Right - LOL Guess she wanted one for both hands.
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The "rabble rousers" they wanted to keep out with the
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If I wanted to see a vulgar hand gesture
I'd just merge onto the freeway in rush hour. Big whoop.
Majority wanted Hitler, too, moron.
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First he stole money from her. Guess he wanted to
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I thought McCain and Palin wanted
I see a change with O, but I am afraid it is just going to get worse. No more freedom. Just people who are in charge of things and still a me, me, me attitude.
Actually, Bush SAID he wanted to close Gitmo...(sm)
but he rejected every proposal for closing it and DID nothing about it, claiming it would be too difficult. A president saying that something is too difficult isn't exactly reassuring BTW. Meanwhile, he made use of it, which completely contradicted his supposed intentions of closing it. You also really can't complain about other countries not wanting to take prisoners into their countries when we weren't willing to take them either, and they are OUR prisoners. I think actions speak louder than words.
Was it William Wallace you wanted, or Mel Gibson? :) NM
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How sad for all of us, only 1/3 of people wanted to break away from England too. nm
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If the govt. truly wanted to "cross party lines"
why don't they vote into law that the ticket has to have a Rep. and a Democrat. So, for example, this year it would be Obama/Palin and McCain/Biden. Not that the Pres. candidate would have to choose those 2 particular but Obama would have to have Rep. and McCain would have to have a Dem.
I am sure this will never happen in my lifetime but I have always thought that.
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