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Who honestly cares, as long as the terrorist threat was stopped. sm

Posted By: MT on 2006-08-11
In Reply to: Thank God you represent the minority of Americans. - Liberal

Until all of you stop your Bush rabid hatred, the terrorist threat is not only lost on you, you look for something more sinister and it all has to point to Bush.  This is really disturbing.


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The answer is, there is no terrorist threat. sm

That sums it up. 


Any ideas on how paying down too much debt could be a terrorist threat?nm
 
We stopped reading your posts a long time ago!


You'll be waiting a long, long time, then, cuz she's going to do

You know....if we actually stopped

and looked at all the money these politicians spend on travel and other expenses that we the taxpayers pay for......we would want to beat them all with a baseball bat. Then you have people like Gore talking about global warming and then jumping on his personal jet and flying away.... LOL!  So for them to go after Palin like that is just ridiculous.  At least she is giving the clothes the RNC bought to charity when she is done.  Not like Palin is a millionaire like McCain, Obamarama, and sticks foot in mouth often Biden.  As for her family flying on taxpayers expense....they fly commercial airlines and not by personal jet.  Remember....she is the one that sold the personal jet Alaska had for the previous governor because it was wasteful. 


I'm so tired of people ragging on Palin on the time.  There are many flaws that the other candidates have as well.  Rag on them for a while.  If you are going to tear the candidates apart....at least tear them all apart and not just one.


You should have stopped with your
of you post is pure incomprehensible babble. Just accept the facts.
That has never stopped anyone here from
They keep whining about the same old s**t over and over. Even when a subject is talked out ad infinitum...
You should have stopped at *I blame.* sm
Figures that someone giving a pep talk would turn you off.  Might take the edge off that HATRED and RAGE.  You are beginning to look more and more like the crowds who are looting, raping and shooting, out of control, full of a sense of entitlement and more than a little full of hysterical rage. 
It's too bad you stopped reading...sm
Sam brings up valid, positive points, and those on the left turn her off, rather than listen to the truth, because it comes from her.

She isn't bitter at all. It always sounds like the left is, when dealing with her, rather than listen to the truth, even when you expounded so much on the facts. If the facts bear up the right, they must not be facts, are therefore ignored.



McCain DID do something...he stopped...
politicking and went back to Washington to do the job the American taxpayers are paying him for, as a sitting senator (both he and Obama are still sitting senators). I would think Obama would want to know FIRST HAND what is going on and not get his info from pings on his blackberry. I would think he would want to be in the thick of this, considering the economy is on the brink of failure. A debate can wait a few days. Can the economy? This whole thing seems pretty silly to me. It looks to me like McCain his his priorities in order.
Of course and isn't it about time it stopped? n/m
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WC stopped when she was pregnant -
at least that is what I remembered hearing on TV.
He died a long, long time ago! (If he was ever
Don't force your beliefs on others. It further devalues your faith in the eyes of others.
You should have stopped at Not Tolerant. Period.
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If you had stopped at stating it was from Newsmax...
and not followed that with conservative propaganda in the body of your post...obviously said in an effort to discredit whatever was in the article. I can read between the lines, as can other posters, right and left, I feel sure.
Stopped believing in the boogey man when I was 5.
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I thank God Bush stopped having war on US soil after 911! nm
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Definately time it stopped
Unfortunately, no matter who wins, it's not going to any time soon. Obama would tax those companies to death, so they would move out of the country anyway, while McCain would help them pack. "God have mercy is correct," 'cause we're screwed either way.

And what credible plots were stopped by
Please give one plausible, legitimate terrorist plot targeting our nation that was stopped by his policies.


Maybe if you stopped yawning, you could actually learn
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You misunderstand. I don't want this thing to be stopped.
Once this train gets going, it won't be stopped where the loony liberals imagine it will stop. It will go all the way to the end of the line, and that is a prospect that positively fills me with joy because it will take a lot of slimeball Democrats like Obama, Pelosi, Reid and others down with it. You know - the co-conspirators and the liars.

You're the ones who had better act fast. Last time I heard, you guys had an awful lot of criminals to go after. We'll start with Feinstein and her most recent financial corruption and work our way back.

Bring it on, and let's really clean house!
You remind me why I stopped voting democrat....(nm)
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maybe they just stopped writing that calendar at that point
because it seemed like a good place to stop. I mean, they had to stop at some point, right?
even brittany stopped giving interviews
She is under no obligation to stay in the spotlight and should decline all further interviews. seriously.
Unfortunately, many politicians stopped caring a looong
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Threat?

GT explained what she meant in the post afterwards, which you conveniently ignored.  She said: Yes, as in prove you are a bigoted fool, FRYE your butt.


Any reasonably intelligent person can see she was challenging this poster to be civil and honest and to debate instead of attack, as she herself explained in her above post.  Obviously, the poster wasn't up for that challenge.


So much for the threat. SM

This is what *I* consider a serious threat...sm
Not discounting whatever went on this weekend, but I thought this was of interest.

By the NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...
Thursday, March 16, 2006 9:11 a.m. EST

Ruth Bader Ginsburg Complains of Right Wing Death Threats

Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is complaining that she's getting death threats from detractors who belong to the irrational fringe of society - people she says who have been egged on by mainstream conservatives who have been critical of the High Court.

In quotes picked up by The Associated Press Wednesday, Ginsburg told the Constitutional Court of South Africa last month that somebody in an Internet chat room had issued a death threat against herself and her former colleague, Sandra Day O'Connor.

According to Ginsburg, the chat room perpetrator declared:

OK commandoes, here is your first patriotic assignment ... an easy one. Supreme Court Justices Ginsburg and O'Connor have publicly stated that they use (foreign) laws and rulings to decide how to rule on American cases. This is a huge threat to our republic and constitutional freedom ... If you are what you say you are, and NOT armchair patriots, then those two justices will not live another week.

In a follow-up speech earlier this month, the Clinton-appointed justice said the whole experience had been disquieting for her.

The AP cited Ann Coulter as an example of a conservative who may have inadvertently encouraged radicals to threaten members of the court by joking during a recent speech that Justice John Paul Stevens should be poisoned.

Democrat: It goes on to say that Ginsberg did not speak up when a liberal commentator made a *wish him an early death* about Clarence Thomas, but was that Ginsberg's place to do so? And if so, did Clarence Thomas speak out for her?
Nothing like the threat of a
brisk IRS proctological exam to get a politician's mind right.
good point.....this one bans if you don't agree with them....or maybe this has stopped since the
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McCain just stopped talking to reporters when he got the nomination
But in the middle of the summer, the McCain campaign took a series of steps that appeared on their face to be at odds with the candidate’s gold-plated brand. In the interest of greater message discipline, his advisers eliminated his running back-of-the-bus (or front-of-the-plane) bullshit sessions with reporters. And they turned sharply negative in their approach to Obama, hammering him with a series of ads—seen by some as trivial and trivializing, by others as racially coded, and eventually by most as unexpectedly effective—focused on his status as a celebrity unqualified to be commander-in-chief.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x34923
*Islamic Threat*
The *Islamic threat* grew over the past 50 years of our foreign policy.  This did not happen just because as Bush says, they are jealous of our freedom.  OMG, their ideology and ours are totally different and frankly, I dont think we will ever get a functioning democracy set up in the Middle East.  Instead of doing what Blair is doing now, setting up meetings with Islamic organizations to try to defuse the situation, we went head strong into Iraq..Oh, we are America, we are gonna kick butt, and what happened, we are now fighting a world wide terrorist war with it's breeding ground Iraq and to a minimum Afghanistan.  This was such an error in judgment and we will pay for it for decades to come.  Bush and his administration dont have to worry.  If we get attacked, they have bunkers, they have secret service that will be with them even after the term ends.  It is us, who ride the subways, rail roads, buses, shop at the malls..we are the ones..the poor slobs on the farms, who are fighting Bush's war and will die in terrorist attacks.  Thank you, Bush!
chavez threat
There have been many arrested over the past few years for just voicing threats that were meaningless, not like Robertson broadcasting all over the world about assassinating Chavez.  That most certainly is a crime.  You cannot threaten leaders of other countries, especially in a forum like Robertson has. 
Iran is CLEARLY a threat and that was what he
was conveying.  Making a statement about AVOIDING World War III is not irresponsible and I didn't hear him assume WWIII would evolve out of Iran specifically.  ANY country with nuclear weapons could spawn WWIII. 
American is clearly a threat to some
America is clearly a threat to many countries, especially seeing what we have been doing for the past four plus years and how we have fueled the hatred and terrorism around the world by chosing to invade and kill instead of holding diplomatic sessions..the thinking mans way of handling a disagreement/problem..no not cowboy Bush, he thinks nothing of sending over our loved ones to fight his illegal, immoral so wrong war, just as long as his daughters and the children of the lawmakers dont have to go.
She is a threat to Obama. and they will do
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Approaching threat.s are......
Israel and Aghanistan, not Iraq.
It all started in Afghanistan.
Was there a threat made?

I'm afraid that this is what is going to happen everywhere.  Anytime ANYTHING is said that sounds bad somebody is going to be reporting it to the FBI.  We are slowly going to lose freedom of speech at this rate. 


Obama threat already.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/10/obama.threat/?iref=mpstoryview
Honestly?

I pray our country will not be sold out from under us.  Sorry, but this election has me very worried.  So many things to consider.  About a year ago I would have voted for Obama. I have changed my mind three times since than.  I watch all the news channels, jumping from one to another.  I must say this drives my husband crazy.  But, I feel if you view MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News, you might get some middle ground to work with.  About six months ago, I started thinking 'where did the money come from for Obama'.  I have four daughters who went to College, and we were middle class, and money was tight.  We (including my girls) worked hard and there were lots of student loans. I started looking into Obama's life.


Around 1979 Obama started college at Occidental in California.  He is very open about his two years at Occidental, he tried all kinds of drugs and was wasting his time but, even though he had a brilliant mind, did not apply himself to his studies. 'Barry' (that was the name he used all his life) during this time had two roommates, Muhammad Hasan Chandoo and Wahid Hamid, both from Pakistan.  During the summer of 1981, after his second year in college, he made a 'round the world' trip.  Stopping to see his mother in Indonesia, next Hyderabad in India, three weeks in Karachi, Pakistan where he stayed with his roommate's family, then off to Africa to visit his father's family.  My question - Where did he get the money for this trip?  Neither I, nor any one of my children would have had money for a trip like this when they where in college.  When he came back he started school at Columbia University in New York.  It is at this time he  wants everyone to call him Barack - not Barry.  Do you know what the tuition is at Columbia?  It's not cheap! to say the least.  Where did he get money for tuition?  Student Loans? Maybe. After Columbia, he went to Chicago to work as a Community Organizer for $12,000. a year.  Why Chicago?  Why not New York? He was already living in New York.
 


By 'chance' he met Antoin 'Tony' Rezko, born in Aleppo Syria, and a real estate developer in Chicago.  Rezko has been convicted of fraud and bribery this year.  Rezko, was named 'Entrepreneur of the Decade' by the Arab-American Business and Professional Association'.  About two years later, Obama entered Harvard Law School.  Do you have any idea what tuition is for Harvard Law School?  Where did he get the money for Law School?  More student loans?  After Law school, he went back to Chicago. Rezko offered him a job, which he turned down.  But, he did take a job with Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland. Guess what?  They represented 'Rezar' which Rezko's firm.  Rezko was one of Obama's first major financial contributors when he ran for office in Chicago.  In 20 03, Rezko threw an early fundraiser for Obama which Chicago Tribune reporter David Mendelland claims was instrumental in providing Obama with 'seed money'  for his U.S. Senate race. In 2005, Obama purchased a new home in Kenwoood District of Chicago for $1.65 million (less than asking price).  With ALL those Student Loans - Where did he get the money for the property?  On the same day Rezko's wife, Rita, purchased the adjoining empty lot for full price. The London Times reported that Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born Billionaire loaned Rezko $3.5 million three weeks before Obama's new home was purchased.  Obama met Nadhmi Auchi many times with Rezko.
 


 Now, we have Obama running for President.  Valerie Jarrett, was Michele Obama's boss.  She is now Obama's chief advisor and he does not make any major decisions without talking to her first.  Where was Jarrett born? Ready for this? Shiraz, Iran!  Do we see a pattern here?  Or am I going crazy?
 


On May 10, 2008 The Times reported, Robert Malley advisor to Obama was 'sacked' after the press found out he was having regular contacts with 'Hamas', which controls Gaza and is connected with Iran.  This past week, buried in the back part of the papers, Iraqi newspapers reported that during Obama's visit to Iraq, he asked their leaders to do nothing about the war until after he is elected, and he will 'Take care of things'.
 


Oh, and by the way, remember the college roommates that where born in Pakistan?  They are in charge of all those 'small' Internet campaign contribution for Obama.  Where is that money coming from?  The poor and middle class in this country?  Or could it be from the Middle East? 


And the final bit of news.  On September 7, 2008, The Washington Times posted a verbal slip that was made on 'This Week' with George Stephanapoulos.  Obama on talking about his religion said, 'My Muslim faith'.  When questioned, 'he made a mistake'.  Some mistake!


 All of the above information I got on line.  If you would like to check it - Wikipedia, encyclopedia, Barack Obama; Tony Rezko; Valerie Jarrett: Daily Times - Obama visited Pakistan in 1981; The Washington Times - September 7, 2008; The Times May 10, 2008.


 Now the BIG question - If I found out all this information on my own, Why haven't all of our 'intelligent' members of the press been reporting this?
 


 A phrase that keeps ringing in my ear - 'Beware of the enemy from within'!!!


 


Tell me you don't honestly believe that. How sad.
bulldinky
Honestly,
They feel no more entitled than pretty much any other person in this country.  I actually like Bush's speech and Obama's as well.  I didn't care for Lowery's one bit tho.
Honestly,
I was looking for someone that wasn't going to try to use smokescreens and magic tricks.  I would like for the US to stop sending aid to other countries for awhile so that we can fix our own issues.  We have families here in the US that are hungry but yet we send millions overseas without expectation of repayment.  I would like a president that is not going to use his position as president to feel he has the right to invade other countries as Bush did with Iraq.  We are not the fix all for every countries problems.  I would like a president that is truly going to make our military the best in the world again.  I would like the welfare systems fixed.  I could go on and on but I have work to do.  I truly do hope Obama can come up with new solutions to fix old problems this country has had.  What we are going through now is nothing new, but past lessons have not been learned.
I honestly don't know what should be done.
First of all, I don't understand why they haven't been brought to trial yet - why can't they be tried in the Hague - isn't that supposed to be the neutral territory for that sort of thing?

I'm not saying that it's not the right thing to do, all I'm saying is that a lot of thought has to go into this because these people have a whole lot to gain by attacking America again. Think how highly they would be revered by their country if they survived Gitmo prison only to be released and succeed in attacking America! What the answer is, I don't know, but just to blindly say we're gonna close it down without any plan of how to actually do it just doesn't make sense to me.
Well you can *know* what ever about terrorist, but you can't
preach about and demand change in the corruption in other countries and then not even be interested in the corruption in your own country.
no, not a lie. He is not a terrorist
but he certainly has ties to, and support from, some very very questionable people, and yes from terrorists. That makes him lacking in judgment at best, and certainly of questionable motives and character.
Perhaps. But to ignore the Islamic threat would mean sm
the end of life as we know it and we don't even want to imagine what the "new" life would be like.  Be careful what you wish for.
Sounds like a threat to me. And hey, I am being nice here. SM

How about trying to be nice in return. This sounds like a threat:


Can I call your arse to task when you step off your ******* truce*******..You bet I will..So, honey, keep posting good posts, debate posts and you will be **in**, jump off that and your arse is fried..



Thinly veiled threat
It was a thinly veiled threat.  Like someone stating..if you are interested in my punching you in the nose, keep up the baloney.  It was stated to make other countries shiver in their boots, however, what it does is make other countries race faster to make the nuclear bombs to protect themselves from the country they perceive as a terrorist country, the USA...you know the country that pre-emptively invaded a soverign nation which was no threat to them.
IED threat was known before war but troops not protected

I'm so glad that Joe Biden is in the White House now, considering he was one of only two who spoke up about this.  Our troops deserve an administration that respects and cares about them and will do its best to protect them.







Report: IED threat known before war


By Peter Eisler, USA TODAY


WASHINGTON —— Military leaders knew the dangers posed by roadside bombs before the start of the Iraq war but did little to develop vehicles that were known to better protect forces from what proved to be the conflict's deadliest weapon, a report by the Pentagon inspector general says.


The Pentagon "was aware of the threat posed by mines and improvised explosive devices (IEDs) …… and of the availability of mine resistant vehicles years before insurgent actions began in Iraq in 2003," says the 72-page report, which was reviewed by USA TODAY.


The report is to be made public today.


Marine Corps leaders "stopped processing" an urgent request in February 2005 for Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles from combat commanders in Iraq's Anbar province after declaring that a more heavily armored version of existing Humvee vehicles was the "best available" option for protecting troops, the report says.


Marine officials "did not develop a course of action for the (request), attempt to obtain funding for it or present it to the Marine Corps Requirements Oversight Council for a decision on acquiring" MRAPs, the report says.


The military continued relying mainly on Humvees until May 2007, when then-incoming Defense secretary Robert Gates called procurement of the MRAPs his top priority. Since then, the Pentagon has spent more than $22 billion to buy more than 15,000 of the vehicles.


When field commanders first began requesting MRAPs, military officials saw the armored Humvees as a more immediate option to countering IEDs, Pentagon press secretary Geoff Morrell said. "The threat has evolved and our force protection measures have evolved with it," he said.


The Marines requested the inspector general's investigation in February after an internal report accused the Corps of "gross mismanagement" of the urgent request for MRAPs. Hundreds of Marines died unnecessarily because of delays in fielding the vehicles, said the Jan. 22 study by Franz Gayl, a retired Marine officer and civilian science adviser.


Two U.S. senators —— Democrat Joe Biden of Delaware, now the vice president-elect, and Republican Kit Bond of Missouri —— demanded an investigation after details of Gayl's study were published.


"The Pentagon was aware of the threat IEDs posed to our troops prior to our intervention in Iraq and still failed to take the steps to acquire the technology needed to reduce the risk," Bond said after reviewing the report. "Some bureaucrats at the Pentagon have much to explain."


USA TODAY detailed the Pentagon's failure to move quickly on MRAP development in a series of stories last year. Gates credited one of those stories with sparking his interest in the vehicles.


Marine commanders in Iraq's then-volatile Anbar province sought 1,169 MRAPs in the February 2005 urgent request. "There is an immediate need for an MRAP vehicle capability to increase survivability and mobility of Marines operating in a hazardous fire area," it said.


The inspector general's report says that Marine officials advised Marine Corps commandant Michael Hagee at the time that armored Humvees were the "best available, most survivable" vehicles to meet the request.


MRAPs are far more resistant to IEDs and landmines than armored Humvees because they're higher off the ground and rest on a V-shaped hull, which deflects blasts from the vehicle's underside.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/military/2008-12-08-mrap_N.htm


threat to national security
and YOU have undisputed proof of this?