Whether or not we are personally offended by his remark,

I think most can agree that it falls under that old catch-all phrase 'poor judgment.'   I think much of his first 60 days has fit that category, I'm anticipating many more examples of it in the next four years.  This is what happens when the man wanders too far from TelePrompTer and handlers. 

Bush was considered a cowboy,  Palin a hick, and both would have been publicly eviscerated by the big-3 networks for such a blunder -  yet another example of their ineptness.  Obama has been characterized as so smooth and sophisticated, and this is considered a simple 'off-the-cuff remark' or a harmless misspeak.

Should we all stop being weenies who are wounded by carelessly offensive remarks?  Sure.  I just would like an end to the double standard.

• more evidence that the prez - Unbelievable!
  • More evidence of right-wingers - Making mountains out of molehillls
  • Whether or not we are personally offended by his remark, - A. Nonymous
  • People are such hypocrites. If Bush had made the - comment, they would have bashed as usual.nm
  • Hey, I'm not an Obama fan, but... - Old part-timer
    • In a PC world, you - Trigger Happy
    • Perhaps - Unbelievable!
      • Doubt that I would feel differently - Old part-timer
      • lots of autism in my family - but I'm not offended - wacko
  • compared to the prior president anyone is a great orator - wacko
    • So what? sm - TechSupport
    • Uh, uh, uh, uh - Unbelievable!
      • Why Obama's speeches are good - IMHO
        • Yes, that speech made Obama look like a robot. - Didnt even know was reading wrong speech!.nm
          • It was an embarrassment - IMHO
            • I agree President should not be on TV shows - Long-Time MY-NY
      • Can't help making the comparison - wacko
        • The great thing about Obama talkin' so purdy... - MT
        • I do "cringe" when Obama makes speeches - because he is such a fake. nm
          • Frankly, don't we all cringe when the other party speaks? - wacko
            • I disagree with you on a point. - Backwards typist

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Where did you get your debating skills?  On the south side of Chicago in some street gang?  Because if you did, it shows.

In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks.  Yet, that's all you people know how to do.  You can't stay on the issue.  You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years.  In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity. 

As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you.  Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers).  If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker.  You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere.  It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn. 

As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found.  Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time.  Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums.  Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.

Have a pleasant evening.

See link re: Bush and trade agreements

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/bush-protectionism-will-cost-us-jobs/n20071013100909990009

Basically, it's about how he wants more free trade. 

"I know many Americans feel uneasy about new competition and worry that trade will cost jobs," Bush said. "So the federal government is providing substantial funding for trade adjustment assistance that helps Americans make the transition from one job to the next. We are working to improve federal job-training programs. And we are providing strong support for America's community colleges, where people of any age can go to learn new skills for a better, high-paying career."

Okay, I appreciate the help; however, what if I like my supposedly 'un-skilled' job??  What if I were a factory worker that loved the fact that I got to go to work every day, do my job, and come home???  Shouldn't I have that option?  What if I'm an older American who has done my job for 40 years and I don't want to do something different??  Shouldn't I have that right, too?  Where will it end?  If it's okay to ship this job overseas, what comes next?  Who draws the line between what kind of job is 'expendable' and what jobs we keep in America?  Bad, bad idea to keep letting our jobs go overseas. 

And since I know people will mention it, I realize that George Bush is not the only one who feels this way. 

Ok, please do not be offended. I saw on the TV how many millions that hillary is making, between her ad her husband. I woul like them to send me a thousand for my med bills and something to put a roof onmy house. Do you think they would do that?

I do not think so.

by that?  I stated fact and then my opinion.  You undoubtedly voted for her...so here's your chance.  Here's her website....

http://palinpac.org/index.html

Looks like she wants your money too.  This is your chance to put your money where your mouth is. 

Oh, and don't even try that *just leave the poor woman alone* thing.  She obviously welcomes the attention.

I'm a white person saying this.....but worked in ERs for years.....her Shaniqua statement made me say there's plenty of white trash going to ERs too....is all I meant - sorry if I offended you.

nm

My, how classy.  That so-called retardate graduated Yale & Harvard.  Now who's retarded?  Bill Clinton is plenty of things, too, but stupid, retarded, etc. are things that I've never heard a conservative say...ever.

I'll let Chris Rock lie in the gutter with his money and his filthy mouth.

Class always speaks for itself.

Posted by: Matt | Apr 8, 2008 4:55:32 PM

What This Democratic Primary Has Taught Me...

Hillary is a conservative democrat.

McCain is a moderate republican.

Obama is a liberal socialist that will keep my race, blacks, looking for a means to become whole citizens, never finding a way and eventually becoming as content as before him in their victimhood.

What a stupid remark from Barbara Bush.  That whole family lacks compassion.  Unbelieveable.

Barbara Bush: Things Working Out Very Well for Poor Evacuees from New Orleans

By E&P Staff

Published: September 05, 2005 7:25 PM ET updated 8:00 PM

NEW YORK Accompanying her husband, former President George H.W.Bush, on a tour of hurricane relief centers in Houston, Barbara Bush said today, referring to the poor who had lost everything back home and evacuated, This is working very well for them.

The former First Lady's remarks were aired this evening on National Public Radio's Marketplace program.

She was part of a group in Houston today at the Astrodome that included her husband and former President Bill Clinton, who were chosen by her son, the current president, to head fundraising efforts for the recovery. Sen. Hilary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama were also present.

In a segment at the top of the show on the surge of evacuees to the Texas city, Barbara Bush said: Almost everyone I’ve talked to says we're going to move to Houston.

Then she added: What I’m hearing is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality.

And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them.

E&P Staff (letters@editorandpublisher.com)

In every place I go where the pledge is recited ballgames mostly when we got to the words under God it's amplified UNDER GOD!!!  That's what I intend on doing even if it becomes illegal.  I don't care if they outlaw the word God period I'll shout it from the mountaintops.  First of all to glorify my God, and second of all to irritate those who think it's a curse word.

Go ahead sue me...hang me...chop my head off.  The best is yet to come for me anyway. 

the McCain campaing has set Palin up to be the attacker of Obama's character and let McCain talk about what they will do if they are elected. 

As for Palin lying, I do believe that Obama has not been 100% truthful with things brought out about him.  He has changed his story several times on different associations and issues and that makes me not trust him. 

I do find it interesting that a lot of times what an Obama supporter can say about Palin....a McCain supporter can say about Obama.  LOL!  Kind of makes you wonder what the heck all of us are thinking really. 

One thing that holds true for me in the case of Sarah Palin is that she cut spending in her state.  I truly do believe that for the sake our country....we need to cut back on the government pending and this just reinforces my trust in McCain and Palin to do just that.  Obama...on the other hand....I believe will not cut back on spending as he has endorsed more pork in his short term in senate than McCain has his entire career.....and that to me says a lot.  And that has nothing to do with him being a POW and having the scars to prove it.  LOL!

I could  not care less so long as they don't mess around with the constitution.  I do think, however, that there is much ado about nothing.  As for the alleged tax breaks...when my husband and I married we asked my CPA about tax ramifications.  He said we would be better off to marry.  When we filed our first joint return, the same CPA said he didn't realize how much our income was and that in fact, marrying was the worst thing we could do tax-wise.  So if gays/lesbians want to marry for tax purposes, they had better take a good hard look at where the marriage will put them.

I don't know that there's anything legal/illegal about it but I expect that in the case of serious illness or injury a significant other would not be kept from the bedside. 

My husband and I used an attorney to draw up papers (forget what they are called) that directs everything that could possibly be foreseen and the cost was something like $350.  That would work just as well for gays/lesbians I would think.

We  have a gay couple in our community, also biracial.  They moved here from another state.  Both wear wedding rings, I have no idea what it symbolizes, haven't asked.  One is rather elderly and has relatives here but they accept the significant other and everyone just goes about their business.

Gay/lesbian relations are not new, it goes all the way back to biblical times.  I don't lean in that direction myself so I do not know anything about it, whether it is a choice or people are born with that bend.  I just have a hard time with God saying that it is an abomination for a man to lie with a man as with a woman and then that He would turn around and cause people to be born with this kind of sexual orientation.  That being said, let them do what they will, it is between them and God.  Like religion and politics, they don't need to try to shove it down the throats of the majority who are heterosexual.

that Jesse Jackson is a detriment to the black community.  Surely there has to be someone better to represent and stand up for the black community.  If a white person made the general comments that Jesse Jackson does......the black community would scream racism.  His own son spoke negatively about his father and his comment. 

I personally don't feel that there will ever be equality between the races because people are constantly wanting to point the finger at the other race.  Do I want equality....yes...of course I do.  I have many black friends who are great people that I care about.  But until we stop pointing the finger at the other race, it won't stop.  Prejudice and racism is on both sides.  It isn't just the white folks or the black people.....it is on both sides and until people stop and realize that and learn to forgive and forget and be accepting.......it won't change.

As for Bill Cosby, I loved watching the Bill Cosby Show when I was younger, but the more I learn about Bill......the more I think he is a huge bigot.

failure in our government is a failure on both sides.  This isn't strictly dems, although dems control the congress, and this isn't strictly reps even though the pres is a rep.  I think they should all stop pointing fingers as what is done is done and find a solution that will benefit the tax payers and not line the crooks' pockets with money anymore than they already are.

As for McCain....no matter what....at least he had the balls to say....HEY...we have a problem here.  That is more than other politicians have done who benefited from FMFM money.