What you do DOES silence the rest of us.
Posted By: Plain as day. Go on. Make a fool of yourself. on 2008-08-26
In Reply to: Now that is a load...and you know it. I have never... - sam
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silence? No way!
I hear no silence, however, what I do hear is people coming together to end this war and throw this bum out of office..YEEHHAAWW!!!!
No prob, gt; the silence
Silence is deafening
on the conservatives board. Where else is a political junkie to go around here?
If this is all it takes to silence you....
your "issues" must not be worth caring about enough to post. How is it okay to silence me...that's fine. But then you complain that I am silencing YOU. Is this glaring double standard somehow escaping you? Are you so unconvinced in your "issues?"
I'm sure the silence will be deafening.
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The silence from Sam is deafening!
This is an easy question, Sam. You should know the answer off the top of your head without having to do a Google search.
The Silence is Deafening
*crickets*
Silence of the Pubs
The reason for the original post was to show that the Republicans and so called "independents" are quick to blame President Obama when the market is down, yet the cat has their tongues when the market goes up. Apparently, their motto is "If you don't have anything bad to say, don't say anything."
No one is foolish enough to believe that a one-day gain in the stock market means the end of the economic crisis.
The silence is deafening........
Strange silence now broken.
First reaction is if these issues, which have been posted on O's website ever since he launched his campaign, are of such sudden concern to the cons and femocons, why did they not get addressed during the RNC? Do you not see the high-jack strategy as the cons try to talk out of both sides of their mouths and reinvent themselves as the new age liberals? How is this different than the now exposed folly of the compassionate conservative Bush/Cheney ploy?
Small business. Either you can't read, you think that we can't or your spin cycle is stuck in high gear. Go here: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#small-business. Plans to give tax relief for small businesses and startups, eliminate capital gains taxes on them and provide a $500 new making work pay tax credit (one of many) for workers. For all those IC MTs out there, this is aimed at reducing the burden of double taxation in the current structure where small businesses pay both employer AND employee side of payroll tax. Obama will INVEST $250 million per year in support of entrepreneurship, by creating national network of public-private business incubators to facilitate start-up creation. Your $250,000/yr figure applied to tax cuts on INDIVIDUALS who earn in excess of that amount. Therefore, your offshore, job loss, and massive flight to lower income argument does not hold water on this point. Please cite the right-wing rag you have taken this $6 billion dollar additional tax on small business claim. I'm not finding that in O's plan. The tax breaks to the "lower brackets" (losing their homes, can't decide whether to get medicine or food this month, and if they are lucky, can gas their tank once a month) is addressed below.
On the plight of the struggling rich. Define rich, please. From the bottom, INDIVIDUAL incomes in excess of $250,000/yr might look about right. From the top, $5 million a year maybe (one of McC's not-so-funny jokes, some would wonder). The 90% of the federal tax bill claim must be a typo. Go here for 2008 info: http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2008/04/the_rich_and_their_taxes.html. Our top 1% of filers pay 40% or tax burden. An accurate argument would include these facts as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth. In the United States at the end of 2001, 10% of the population owned 71% of the wealth, and the top 1% controlled 38%. On the other hand, the bottom 40% owned less than 1% of the nation's wealth. Let's say that one more time. Top 1% gets 38%, bottom 40% get less than 1%. Since they are not earning a living wage, probably that is why they cannot afford to pay tax. Got the picture?
There is only one reason our long suffering corporations are taking their business overseas. Greed. They do not want to pay their share and they get tax incentives currently for outsourcing. Do not take us down the path of needing to address sweat shop working conditions, 7-day work weeks, $2/day wages in developing countries where US labor laws do not apply. Greed is not a universal American value.
There you go again. Please try to keep this discussion in the context of McCain plans and how they are different than Bush plans. You are spinning way out in right field without a paddle on that ridiculous statement about keeping people in lower brackets. What in the world make you think this kind of ignorance is going to help JM/SP win the election.
Preying on discontent, fear and division was a blatent and nauseating subtext for the RNC this entire week. I do agree with inspecting history, and the history that is under the microscope now is Bush/Cheney and JM voting history. Do you really want to bring up govt "borrowing." Again, Bush is the record setter in this regard and while we are talkin' W, don't forget the Bush slash and burn policies toward our seniors. Here's a link for you to a rather exhaustive analysis on 12 reason privatizing social security is a bad idea. http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp?pubid=503. You can get back to me on that one with your rebuttal. My question would be putting WHICH people before WHICH party?
Survey Americans on which party they associate election fraud with in the past, say, 30 years or so and tell me what you come up with. So you forgot to mention what JM's plan is on this one. Again, just saying no to personal attacks and steering you back on course. JM's plan for lobbying and earmarks is what exactly. I see O has one.
JM hate war? LMAO. So what was all that military service orgie this week all about? The entire McCain family for generations have shown to us just how much they hate war. Where is his war prevention strategy? Did I miss the part where he sang Give Peace a Chance? Sam, really, do you care nothing about your own credibility or that of your candidates? Am laughing too hard to comment further on this.
Here's a link for you to serve as a primer on the Patriot Act controversy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act#Controversy. Will not address the attempts you are making to minimize the unconstitutional aspect of this legislation. I would like an explanation as to how RNC protestors engaging in destruction of private property, vandalism, resisting arrest, disturbing the peace and such have suddenly been charged with terrorism? The we have not been attacked yet defense does not make me feel warm and fuzzy about standing legislation that violates the constitution 9 ways to Sunday. Far mongering does not a justification make. O's plan demonstrates ways to tackle terrorism that do not involve trashing the constitution.
There are many issues swirling around the separation of church and state. Christian theocracy will be kept in the marginal fringes where they belong. Religious principles will not be incorporated into laws that seek to remove a woman's right to control her own body. Freedom from religion is also at stake here as are hate crime definitions that provide protection for Moslems in the US. That is the freedom the cons overlook every time.
You may not direct me anywhere in history on this subject that would attempt to blur the division between military and diplomatic initiatives. Hello. These are mutually exclusive concepts and one is designed to prevent the other. Got it? Where is JMs diplomacy? In the past 16 years, which party has demonstrated the ability to balance the budget and create surplus. Hey sambo, who turned a $559 billion surplus into a $400 billion deficit in just 8 years? Looks like there already has been a trillion-dollar screw-up that the next administration will be having to clean up. Wonder which party has the most credibility on this one?
Your prescription for poverty sounds like it was lifted straight out of O's plan. Read it before you try to claim it for the party who would ridicule it. My post ends here because the remainder of yours is recycled communist/socialist innuendo that has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. And the top of the evening to you too, dear.
The silence is deafening! For shame Sam nm
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The silence is pretty amazing.
Where are the pubs defending Bush's plan (and McCain's) to privatize Social Security?
Silence. Did everyone go to the religious board?nm
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Don't ya just love the silence of the Bushwhackers.......
Must have guzzled too much BJ...........
Silence of the Lambs aka Pubs
Why are the Pubs and so-called "independents" who love to hate President Obama so quiet lately? Could it be the fact that...
U.S. stocks surged around 7 percent on Monday after the Obama administration detailed a plan to purge toxic assets from bank balance sheets, fueling optimism about a revival in bank lending and driving double-digit gains in financial shares.
The S&P 500 and the Dow industrials posted their biggest one-day percentage gains since late October after Wall Street finally got what it was asking for: relief for the battered banking sector and more data suggesting the housing market could be on the mend.
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN2329947120090323
More Silence of the Lambs aka Pubs
Their only joy in life comes from whining and complaining, so don't expect to hear from them when something good happens.
Yep, that's how dictators silence the masses...
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There's that deafening silence from the other side of the aisle.
But not for long. That greed gang is going down...double-digits, T-minus 14 and counting.
Don't ya love the silence of the Obama lovers?
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Exactly who are the rest of you???
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Uh, the rest of us are those... sm
Who believe in facts, logic, science, reason, etc. above fairy tales and magical thinking/wishing. You know, like an adult? I should think that would be obvious.
And you assume that because I don't believe in your religion that I have "nothing to believe in." No. I just don't believe what you believe. Why? Well, mainly, lack of evidence. Oh, and the fact that I wasn't indoctrinated/brainwashed as a child to unquestionably believe something for which there is no proof.
While you may continue to love and pray for me, I can continue to love and wish the best for you. Praying/wishing, I don't see a big difference.
What do you mean by the rest of us?
What you got here is socialism in black and white and for the life of me, I do not understand why anyone would think all this would come your way free and clear. This is coming your way, complements of Obama, to the tune of around 3.5 trillion dollars.
And on top of that, he is talking giving checks to people who don't work. Aren't we already doing that?
Try to keep up with the rest of us
http://forum.mtstars.com/misc/v/11/52098.html
Sheesh...
Rest assured, we won't. SM
Do you have recess time on this board?
The rest of the numbers. TI
This is reality in Israel: From 29 September 2000 through 11 January 2003:
5,041 injured, 717 killed, 15,992 attacks
IDF Spokesperson 12 January 2003
Injured: 3,585 Civilians + 1,456 Security Forces = 5,041 Total Israeli Injured
Killed: 503 Civilians + 214 Security Forces = 717 Total Israeli Killed
Total Attacks*: 7,139 West Bank + 8,203 Gaza Strip + 650 Home Front =15,992 Total
* Does not include attacks with rocks or fire bombs.
This is a death toll greater (in proportion) than America suffered on 9/11 and the American people would never tolerate this! So why should Israel have to endure this year after year while the world does nothing? The same people that hate Israel are the same people that hate America!
give it a rest ....nm
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Give it a rest, already.
You're like a dang gnat that needs a swat. Unless you know what was going on behind the scenes in both parties, knock it off. Like Biden was the so-called "new politician's" first choice? He was supposedly the safest choice.
Not when the rest of the country = 61%
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Here's the rest of the story.
1. No soup for researching the breakdown on appropriations and who came down for and against as they progressed through time. That "congress did" cop-out does not cover for the fact that between 2002 and 2007, Dems were outnumbered by war zealots with glazed-over eyes as they followed a leader of liars and prevailed on the money issues. Answer: The pubs dominated and ARE credited for building up a $400B debt, no matter how fast you spin it.
2. Thank you. Obama voted against. Vision, conviction and courage to place principle over politics. Biden voted for, but has since stated he believes it was a mistake because of the W administration mismanagement of the war. Go here for Biden on the issue of Iraq: Does not appear to be part of the fleeced flock anymore. http://www.ontheissues.org/Joe_Biden.htm.
3. Obama. Ahead of the curve. Petraeus is not running for president.
4. Petraeus is a military man with a military agenda and a reputation to protect, just like McCain. Trouble is, public is war weary and are looking for nonmilitary solutions…or at least somebody who is willing to consider such notions. There has to be a plan for what lies beyond the surge, which is not an everlasting solution. Question is whose plan? Bush and McCain NOW get it that Obama gots it and are going with his flow. According to you, Petraeus is onboard too. By the way, the Iraqi leadership just might be entitled to weigh in on this one. After all, it IS their country. They backed Obama on international television this past summer, lest we forget.
5. Well then, according to you, Petraeus is onboard troop draw-down. No highjack here, but a bit slow on the draw.
6. There has been no political resolution. Iraqis have not taken control of their own nation. Exactly what do you think will happen after troop withdrawal? The Sunni, Shia and Kurds will throw farewell flowers at the troops and each other in gratitude for all the help and Iraq will become the "oasis of democracy" in the Middle East? All the surge has done is prolong the inevitable. We need to step aside NO MATTER WHAT the consequences and hand the Iraqis the keys to the kingdom and let them sort themselves out.
I hope you got some rest.
At least a dozen people? When this kind of bigotry rears its ugly head, it breaks all kinds of silence. Let me make this clear to you. My post was responding to the bigotry, the lie and the ignorance being displayed and not to the other poster who was responding to the to the bigotry, the lie and the ignorance. How many different ways do you want to make yourself look foolish?
So what about the rest of the post
Is it only welfare to the poor that ticks you off so? I raised some specific points. Just curious. All of the rest of it is okay by you?
I rest my case!
Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker.
We're told there are several things about the alleged attack that don't add up. A Pittsburgh PD official says they are conducting a "thorough investigation" and have not determined if the alleged attack is real or a hoax. But we're told there is definitely a level of skepticism.
Give it a rest will ya? s/m
Or better yet, let's declare NEITHER candidate was born in the U.S. and declare this election OFF and see if we can't come up with 2 better candidates!!!!
This needs to be laid to rest
Mine shows none of that here in Pennsylvania when I had to get a copy. My copy has only DOB, file number, date filed, date issued, count of birth, name, and sex. It also has the raised seal. That's it.
It doesn't need to have all that other information to be real.
Yeah and the rest by Sam...
Shame on you!  I guess you believe in God though right. The man did have a death in his family. Give it a rest already, and no I'm not GP. I'm another MT just like you with a little heart I guess. 
Rest yourself assured that this is just more of the same...sm
garbage spewn by people who have a vested interest in unrest in our country. Even IF Obama had been born in Russia, his mother was an natural born American citizen and that right was automatically conferred to him the second he was born. NO ONE can take American citizenship from someone against their will, even in the case of a child. NO ONE ! ! So all this trash is a moot point.
i rest my case
no need for further discussion, you proved my point!
you can put lipstick on a pig..you know the rest..nm
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Give it a rest, BB....... sm
Don't you have more pressing issues to think about....such as the economy?
At least that is what I was reprimanded for on the board several days ago when I pointed out one of Obama's shortcomings, at least as I saw it.
Onward and upward, cheerio pip-pip and all that good stuff.
There ya go, I rest my case nm
thanks!
The Rest Of The Story
The civil jury rejected most of the claims against Roger Barnett but found him liable for assault and infliction of emotional distress. He was ordered to pay $77,804--$60,000 of it in punitive damages.
Barnett is a well-known vigilante who flashes a fake police badge and has been sued a number of times, including detaining some Americans who were on a hunting trip. Apparently to Barnett, if you look Mexican then you're an illegal alien. Barnett's 22,000-acre ranch includes private and federal lease holdings and almost 14,000 acres of state-leased land.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-border-confrontation,1,5753960.story
The idea of having US troops patrolling the Mexican border is ludicrous and will never happen.
I'm glad for you but what about the rest of us
You are the first person I have heard to receive anything that Obama has promised. I caught some of his speech tonight. I like some of it (energy and stuff even though it's very confusing to understand), but for the most part it sounded like he was on the campaign trail again and all I was waiting for was "and I'll end world hunger" ha ha ha.
I agreed with another poster who said what in the world was that republican rebuttal talking about. There are so many other good republicans out there who would have spoken better (and said things I would have understood). I was listening while I was making supper and I kept asking DH what in the world is he talking about. I just don't understand why with so many other good republican speakers (R. Paul for one), why don't they ever get up and talk.
Anyway...I'm glad for you with your Cobra, but I'm not seeing any changes and nobody I know of is seeing any changes. We just keep getting fed his campaign speeches of hope, hope, hope. It's time now to stop talking about hope and tell us what is being done (and none of this feel-good stuff which is lies to fool the public into thinking good things are happening when nothing actually is). I want to see it in writing. I don't see jobs being created so half of my family who were laid off can go back to work. Well I guess I'll find out come tax time if Obama is good on his word. I "hope" so, but the whole economy thing is so depressing right now. I am hopeful and will keep my fingers crossed. If my taxes are lower I'm going to come on this board and say thank you Obama.
Once again proclaiming yourself as better than the rest of us.
so long
It's not that hard to be better than the rest of you.nm
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Boy-oh-boy. I rest my case.
I rest my case.
The big three networks (who have always been in the bag for Obama) chose to pretty much ignore the whole thing. Mainstream commentators that mentioned it chose to characterize it a gathering of a few loose screws who were mad at the president - not sure why - something about his race? Local stations that covered it picked out a few hostile-looking signs to focus on, amoung throngs of thousands.
I would have thought that a quarter-million folks protesting would be a nationally newsworthy event, but apparently not. Depends where you tune your dial, I guess. For those who think there is no liberal bias in media, how come nobody but Fox viewers and conservative radio listeners had any clue what was going on?
The rest of the verse....(sm)
thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the way of Allah, - he will never let their deeds be lost.
Rest easy
she'll probably have you posthumously converted and you will be okey-dokey in the hereafter. Thanks a boatload, Sis!
Now for the rest of the story...
Kindred Healthcare's corporate headquarters are located in Kentucky. We called them for comment when we were first working on this story Tuesday, but they did not return our calls.
Wednesday morning, however, our story received nationwide attention. We have received dozens of emails and comments from people who had something to say about it. And a receptionist at Kindred's headquarters told us they received many phone calls.
Then, late Wednesday morning, Kindred posted on its website a statement about the incident. It reads, in part: "The disagreement was over the size of the flag and not what it symbolized. We have invited the employee to put the flag back up."
We're contacting McLucas for her take on what Kindred said. We'll have that part of the story later today on CBS11TV.com.
But you complete ignored the rest of the post....
I am just shaking my head. It is amazing to me that anyone would think God is okay with abortion. I believe he is okay with personal choice, of course I do, my faith is based greatly on that belief. Someone makes a choice when they take any life, inside the womb or outside. That does not mean God condones murder. You are representing that the Bible, and therefore God, condones abortion, and I cannot wrap my mind around that. To follow your line of reasoning, I should be able to steal from you and not have the government interfere because it is my choice to steal from you and I have to answer only to my maker. If a person breaks into your house (his choice) and rapes you or kills you, (his choice), then he should be free to do so and only have to face his maker. Can you not see how destructive that line of thinking can become? You think that is ridiculous, but I promise you that 20 years ago people thought abortion was ridiculous, same sex marriage would horrify my parents...if left unchecked, horrible things can happen. The amazing thing is, the moral compass becomes so skewed that the horrible becomes the acceptable. As I said before, that kind thinking is what helped a madman rise to power, and thousands upon thousands of people either jumped on the bandwagon or turned their heads and condoned something horrific, on the premise that a whole race of people were inferior and subhuman and therefore it was all right to exterminate them. THAT is what happens when people begin to devalue life. I do not want that to EVER happen again, to ANYONE. I realize that is probably falling on deaf ears because I will get the rote I don't believe it is life again and you are unable to draw the parallel. You see, that is a fundamental difference between you and me...I care about what happens to you as an individual and what happens to this country and every person in it, so I gave it one last shot. It is hard for me to just walk away. But walk away I shall, because sometimes you have to. We shall have to agree to disagree, but I will keep standing for what I believe in and calling wrong what I believe is wrong, just as you do. God bless, Maryland Gal.
Teddy, give it a rest already. sm
We have, through the years, LONG before you were posting here, made a distinct difference between liberals and leftists. If you would actually read the posts, instead of reading Ann Coulter, which for some reason you feel a Clockwork Orangish type of inescapability to read, you would see that. But instead in post after post after post you go on and on with a litany of wrongs against the poor liberals on the conservative board. Give it a rest already. As far as your assertion that Vietnam and Korea were civil wars, well, I am not quite sure how to address that gigantic historial distortion. I won't even try.
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