What you are seeing below is a weak attempt at damage control 101...
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-30
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That announcement sucked all the air out of the big speech, everyone is talking about Sarah Palin, not Barack Obama. And the best they can do is take potshots at Alaska and that she was in a beauty pageant...and oh I thought the rampaging moose thing was REALLLYYYYY funneeeee. Obama is not the only one front and center that people are excited about...and if these folks think the PUMA folks are going to fall into line because the DNC tells them to....they have another think coming. Just my opinion of course....
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Yes indeed. Lot of RNC damage control going on.
How do the Pubs turn Gustav into a political advantage? We already see them shameless working all the angles and considering their options, but let's face it. They need all the help they can get now that Gustav has blow the wind out of the sails of their copy-cat showcase celebrity VP pick. It's just as well. A 48-hour ride on that boat was just about all the excitement JM could stand at one time.
Any political capital the RNC is trying to get out of Gustav is doomed to fail. What's a party to do? The collective sigh of relief they all are breathing over the Bush and Cheney speech cancellations to go put on their compassionate conservative hats and polish up their leadership image is producing wind gusts up to a Category 10. How can they celebrate the debut of their golden girl on a split screen they share with the drowning of New Orleans Part II and hold their collective breaths at the same time and pray those levies don't break again? One would think they would have the sense to postpone the event until all the ruckus dies down, but if they did that, people might actually start expecting the Prez and VP to deliver their speeches again. They can't have that, now can they?
The dems will not be too worried about Bush/Cheney speech cancellations one way or the other. The RNC opening night and the leadership image role down south are equal opportunities for Bush and Cheney to show their true colors and there is no way the media is going to be polite enough not to be reminding us all about the screw ups last time around, no matter how presidential they try to appear. It's a lose/lose situation no matter how you look at it.
Sam busy w/damage control this a,m.
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Conservatives are for control over their own children and less control by govt
you want it both ways, it is dem fault with control, and when they had no control
it was their fault as well. yes GB did not get anything done, no deregulation, no war, no shift of power to the corporations, nothing.
so you are saying he was utterly incompetent?
How about if some of us are using birth control to be responsible and control.......sm
the size of our families, as almost every family has to do? And believe me, I tried the "rhythm" method, and I have my beautiful son, Alex, as a response. And I adore him, and thankfully we found ways to afford him, care for him in every way, etc., but some sexual aides and birth control are actually used by Christian couples who have been married for 28 years, gong on 29 in May. sex is also important in a loving marriage, not just to "do whatever feels good." There is nothing shameful in married, committed sex.
Control? If you mean, control of putting our country
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A lot of damage can be done in
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Bush damage
What you described is only the damage that Americans were lucky enough to have accidentally been discovered, things that were the complete opposite of what he said he was doing. We still don't know what other illegal or immoral things he has done in the last 5 years that just haven't been discovered yet. Plus, he has 3 more years of damage to do. I worry very much for the future of this country. I hope we can all survive it without him getting us all killed. He's a very dangerous man.
True. The damage has been done. sm
Irretrievably so. But there's no going back now. McCain is stuck with her and she and the economy (and his inability to tell the truth, IMO) are dragging him down:
Polls: Obama Way Up, Palin And Economy Dragging McCain Down
By Eric Kleefeld - October 1, 2008, 12:09PM
Two new national polls show Barack Obama expanding his lead over John McCain to a seven-point margin, thanks in large part to two big problems for McCain. The first one is the economy -- and the second is Sarah Palin.
The numbers from Pew: Obama 49%, McCain 42%, with a ±3.5% margin of error. And from Time: Obama 50%, McCain 43%, with a ±3% margin of error.
In the Time poll, 65% say their personal economic situation has declined in the last year, and this group is going 59% for Obama. In the Pew poll, Obama is trusted over McCain to improve the economy by 51%-33%.
And here's the bad news for Palin. Time says that McCain is losing women at a faster clip than Palin was able to gain them -- before the two conventions, Obama led among women by ten points, which then narrowed to one point after she was picked. Now he leads by 17 points.
And in Pew, Palin's public image has taken a very serious fall. Three weeks ago, Palin was seen as qualified to be president by a 52%-39% margin. Now that number has been reversed: Only 37% think she's qualified, and 51% say she is not.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/polls_obama_way_up_palin_and_e.php
Palin did further damage to herself by going on but sm
It was her choice. She contacted SNL and asked to go on. McCain made some comment about the vast amount of viewers and I guess they thought it was a great way to reach the public but in this case, you really don't want to reach the public by reminding them how you won't answer questions and how unqualified you are. It was just odd to see her there. She wasn't funny and she didn't do anything to help herself. Weird!
Weak and willing?
At least she is well-versed on the issues and doesn't bash like some "radical" posters out there. Gimme a break. Oh, I'm sorry. Are you too weak and willing? Didn't think so.
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That's weak...
The laws do not affect you. The only way that law would affect anyone is if they chose to marry their partner of the same sex. You have always had the choice to marry whomever you choose as long as they are of the opposite sex. HOW WOULD IT AFFECT YOU PERSONALLY? No one seems to be able to answer that.
weak
and ineffective.
Be weak?....(sm)
Since when has showing restraint and exercising morals been weak?
indeed, other than a few weak
statements from a few muslims that *islam is a religion of peace* where are the denunciations of the actions of radical muslims?
i think jews, christians and muslims probablyy all worship the very same god by different means and with differing degrees of zealotry or tolerance. try explaining the trinity to a jew or muslim, and how that actually does not mean there are 3 gods.
just as that god did not step in and stop some of the horrors committed in his name by christians, he will not do so when muslims commit them. it is up to us to police ourselves. don't be looking for god to smite anybody real soon...
How much more weak
can you get than to not care about the unborn on this planet? I don't believe God makes any of us suffer. I believe most suffering is brought on by ourselves. Drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, unhealthy diet, along with multiple other abuses all in the name of "doing what feels good." We suffer because of our own choices which God gives us freely. He didn't create robots. So why shouldn't the unborn be allowed to have the privilege of suffering like the rest of us? ;-)
Damage from insurgents is minimal?????
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Egads - the dems have done enough damage
Look at their voting records - this is not the direction the country needs to go in. We need a real leader. Someone who will not let us down. Someone who cared more about the people that even when he had a chance to leave the pow camp he chose to stay and not leave his fellow soldiers there. We need a fresh face to Washington to give them the good kick in the pants they need (thank you Gov. Palin - know you'll do an excellent job). Obama is not a fresh face to Washington (he has been there for a couple years now), and Joe Biden has been there for I believe over 30 years (not exactly sure of the number of years, but think its over 30 or close to 30) - so where's the new face Obama promised us.
It's time for a change we can trust in. Time for America and Americans to come first. Not more of the same just labeled as democrats giving false hopes. Has anyone noticed that he said he believes 97K is not middle class. It used to be 250K, now I hear 97K. How much farther down is he going to go. Maybe he believes people who make $12K a year are the middle income. This is not a man I can trust. It's too bad too because I had high hopes for him when I voted for him over Hillary. Now he's just another dirtbag in my opinion and will screw the country while he continues to reap in the money from the big corporations like he has been doing all along.
I agree. There certainly is a lot of damage to repair.
Americans are not the only ones who are ready to turn the page and write a new chapter in the post-911 era. I believe the challenges are so complex that they are no longer amenable to an imperialist or isolationist approach.
There is no one nation that can single-handedly defeat terrorism, a stateless, nationless phenomenon, fueled in part by Anti-American sentiment. The very essence of the challenge dictates the need for alliance, cooperation, concerted efforts, mutual respect and multicultural/multinational involvement. We don't get there by waging more wars. In fact, a radical departure from the most recent approaches is in order.
If Bush can come to the table for the sake of the economy (G7), our leadership certainly should come to the table for the sake of security.
Like I said, weak enough to follow
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We are weak - see message
I believe we are weak because people would rather sit around and watch Survivor, American Idol and other reality & TV shows than to do something and stand up to government. I have a 32yo BIL who believes that his 14 year old niece should go to war and not him because he works at a hi tech company and is too important and too intelligent to be in the military, and there are literally thousands of people in this country who think like him. Americans (not all but a majority) will not do without. They live in the now (gimmee gimmee gimmee, I want I want I want). As for our government I honestly do not know what to think. These are the same people who gave a 700M bail out the other week and now upon finding out the companies who received the bail outs are not using them to help the people (the reason they were intended for), but instead they are pocketing the money for themselves and taking lavish holidays at resorts with thousand dollar "spa" retreats, and walking away with $90M bonuses. And the government is not demanding the money back or for them to use it for what it was intended for. I think a lot of democratic politicians think the same way Obama does (or close to it) and they will give Obama whatever he wants. My grandfather who was in WWII told me that when war started up everyone signed up. They all wanted to serve and they knew it meant the could be killed in action. Now adays nobody feels the same patriotism they did back then. He said patriotism is a lot more than hanging a flag from your car or in front of your house. So I do believe a lot of America (not all but a lot) is weak.
Right. This seems a very weak choice.
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just fodder for the weak
truthfully, no ill will intended. It's so easy to manipulate the weak - they get all bound up and ATTACK. Do I care? Not in the least. Do they pay my rent? Not this month. I enjoy the bitter nastiness of those who have nothing else to offer. Nobody REALLY wants to have polite discourse, they just want to attack anything that does not meet their idealology - quite amusing, really. All it takes is an inane comment......
see the bombing and collateral damage post above....nm
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anyone else wondering how much damage Bush can do in the next few months?
This post is an example of the worst kind of damage
This kind of ignorant, self-righteous, utterly uninformed, breathtakingly bigoted and hate-filled pronouncement, void of any depth or evidence of intellectual capacity, is exactly the kind of divisive belief system and world view W created with his "you are either for us or against us" war on terror. Islam is a monotheist religion, just as Christianity is. The kind of politicized Christianity you have expressed is of the sort that was the driving force behind the Crusades...bloody terrorism in its very worst manifestation. Politicized religion in any form has NOTHING to do with God and the brand that you are promoting here is every bit as much of a terrorist act as a suicide bombing. Moslems pray to the same God that Christians pray to and no amount of hateful bigotry you try spread will change that fundamental truth. As long as you hold this kind of hate in your heart, you will always be a very isolated, fringe element of our society. If you are truly a person of faith, pray to God to to fogive you for this blasphemy, to enlighten you and to purge you of the ignorance and hate you harbor.
Pretty weak charge if you ask me.
It'll probably be dropped in a few days but not until the media is allowed to have their way with them, and the liberal bloggers tar and feather him. Does anyone remember travelgate and the Clinton land deal scandals. I'm sure you dems/liberals don't recall that at all....
Before you start condemning one Republican politician to hell you better take a look into your own party's closet.
Hmm, this confuses me. It is the meek (not weak)
Difference in meaning, with meek meaning humble, docile, compliant and weak meaning no strength, vigor, or spiritually lacking strength.
This post seems written by someone else, someone who believes in God and the teachings of Jesus, but your other posts are borderline mean toward conservative voters, many of whom are Christians with Christian ideals very much like the ones you claim to possess in the above post. This seems very contradictory and as such, almost disingenuous.
well, if this is true, I blame Bush, Cheney and all the damage
they have done to this country. The republicans will always go down in history as to blame.
They have had full control and yet still manage to blame everyone else for the problems.
Look around, because Bush has left this country with no other option but for the government to step in. This has been breeding because of his carelessness and ineptitude. He ruled like a king/tyrant in the white house.
This will be on his hands.
About the same damage Clinton did in his final months after the election (NM)
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Sorry but Bush is a crook and nothing you say will change that. He did our country a lot of damage.
just move on from that, you cannot. It's damaged us a whollleee lot and your snide comments will not change that.
desperate attempt
to snag the unhappy Hilliary supporters. They predicted this last night -- if McCain felt desperate after watching the Dem convention, he would pick a wild card candidate. If he felt safe, he would go with Romney. Tthanks for showing your cards, Mac. Hill's people are progressive, they won't vote for a ticket that is against women's rights just because one is a woman.
My guess is that this is an attempt....(sm)
to actually help the country. It's called putting pressure on the current president who is just happily sitting on his behind and doing nothing to stop or slow down this economic masacre we have going on right now. I can't wait to see the total job loss by the end of the week.
It becomes my business when they attempt to
Laws affect everyone. They don't want "rights"...they have rights. They just want to change laws to somehow prove they are legitimate, as if the fact they are human doesn't make them a legitimate human being already? I have every right to make it my business when they want to change the laws to suit their lifestyle.
i agree. It makes McCain look weak and
what a great leader he would make...McBush...
A "different approach". Go ahead, be weak.
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I read all this and will attempt to verify...
but somehow the "She has hated me since 1996" comment makes me a little doubtful....if you wanted to be taken seriously, why would you include that? It makes it sound like payback.
At any rate, I have read, and will be looking into the accusations. Thanks for posting!
To clarify your misguided attempt
I am not a republican, I do not care for Hannity, and I don't particularly care for McCain either. As far as Obama, I know a skunk when I smell one.....
Sorry to pop your bubble.
Fox makes an attempt to be balance
but that's just one network vs. the many left-leaning rest of the major media.
How is that balanced? NEWS should be FAIR and BALANCED, not a thrill up your leg. Now THAT's disgusting.
FOX makes no attempt to be balanced, they just SAY that
It's so obvious, my goodness.
sam, weak argument based on semantics, that reporter's
implication was all too clear, and just another stupid accusation in order to mislead yet more uneducated, misinformed voters.
It shows you have a biased opinion and a weak mind.
I'm sure the Hitler Youth loved their newsletter just as much as you hate-festering libs love your Huffington Post.
And you really need to spend a second to look up the definition of "terrorist."
If a "terrorist" was anyone who commits murder, your Saint Tiller (may his stinking corpse rot in his grave) is the prime example of a TERRORIST. 60,000 infants executed. And yet all you can focus on is your hate for anything Christian.
How pathetic.
You're right. I wouldn't attempt to reason this through with anyone...nm
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First, this is not an attempt to attack or belittle Obama...
but he said before he went that it was not a "political" trip, because that would be "inappropriate." Yet his campaign people put political posters up at the Western Wall in Jerusalem. Of course it was political. Can't we just be honest about things? On both sides.
And to be fair...the American media as a whole wouldn't cover McCain right now unless he keeled over and died...and THAT is sad. I am not a big McCain fan, but the bias is astounding.
And as far as the dairy aisle in a grocery store...at least he is talking to Americans. They ARE, after all, running for Presiden of the United States...not President of Europe. Just an observation.
Last but not least...it is concerning to me that Obama was going to visit Landstuhl and wounded troops...and at last minute canceled because it would be "inappropriate." I don't get that, to be honest. It is appropriate to talk to the German people in a political speech, but not to visit wounded American troops...when is it ever inappropriate to visit wounded American troops? I honestly don't get that one.
Obviously I am not an Obama fan either. Going to be one of those lesser of two evils years for me. :-)
Another excuse of a lie - but it wasn't even a good attempt at one
No politician's child has ever been "hauled around and raised by a succession of nannies". You've been watching too many movies. Maybe in the past (like the 1800s) a child has had a nanny with them but not a succession of them. Had to laugh at that one.
Next, her family is with her. Sorry guess you don't consider her husband (the father of this child) to be somebody important enough to be with them.
This is not political ambition for her. She wasn't out there going at it day after day after day like Barack, Hillary, Biden & McCain. Her name was one of many that they were looking at. It was a job interview just like other jobs (just a bit more prestigious). I guess then if you go apply for a job you better think about it if you have kids before you put your ambitions before them.
Lastly and most importantly by doing this she IS putting the needs of her child first. As VP she will be able to make the decisions and vote on the issues that will make the country a better place for her children (all of them - not just her special needs child). That to me is putting her children way before herself.
your attempt at a funny retort is in fact
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No, I didnt misstype....attempt at irony. lol. nm
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You can google his taxation attempt in March
I see what is really going on here. For weeks I heard Obama won't tax us, he's gonna save the middle class, yaddda, yadda, yadda, and you call all facts lies. Now, I'm so sorry you think the actual bill on capital hill which he helped propose is a lie, which means you think he is a lie, but his vote is there.
Get off your lame brain duff and googgle it, if you dare!
In your response, what I see if someone who truly does not care about this country at all but chooses to believe you are going to get a bigger free ride. If you think his taxation attempt on YOU, the poor middle class or whatever, is going to get a tax cut, I dare you to look it up for yourself. I know you won't....you don't want to see the truth about this man.
Your pathetic attempt to try to cover up the fact...(sm)
that there is no basis for the comment above (that being that Obama is taking rights away) by trying to distract the conversation by attacking me personally does nothing but show the absolute absurdity of the republican party's talking points.
Lots of hidden references in that little attempt....sm
at comedy, at which he miserably failed. How wonderful does he think he is? And arrogant: I think they need to put a new page in the dictionary with his picture on it for arrogance! If he would get trying to get attention for himself and concentrate more on those JOBS HE PROMISED, I'm sure the country will be more appreciative and sure as heck a lot better off!
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