What is this African-American stuff? I am white,
Posted By: they are black........period sm on 2008-10-23
In Reply to: answer this - are ALL of obama's supporters
If I am to call a black person African-American, then I should be called Irish-American, German-American, Scottish-American, Italian-American, Welch-American, French-American...the list goes on and on.
This is the very example of racism. One color people believing they should be called something different than what they are. That is ridiculous. I am not going to jump through ludicrous hoops. If anyone is that small minded and believes they have to tack on a continent before their name, they need to get a life and live in reality.
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Is O really African-American?
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/rush-limbaugh-obama-really-isnt-african-american/
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html
Is O really African American?
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/rush-limbaugh-obama-really-isnt-african-american/
More added uncertainty as to who he really, really is. At least with McCain, there is none of this distrust. I do not have to worry that McCain is hanging around terrorists, where he was born and if he is a true US citizen, if he was raised and taught by a pastor for 20 years to learn hate, and could go on and on. What you see is what you get with McCain. None of this junk of trying to prove who he is.
As for O, there is no trust for me. He seems deceitful. He gets mad when newspapers go against him and then kicks them off the plane and so on. Even Clintons have said Obama needs A LOT OF ADVISORS if he wins this election. This is not an election, but an eerie movement. Even had to arrest skin heads because of a plot to assassain the O, already. Freaks me out. Just not right for this country or should I now say for this WORLD as the O wants to change it. He does not know anything about foreign affairs to CHANGE THE WORLD. He scares me to death and I am not the only one who feels this way.
Can anyone give me reassurance about the O?
African-American population
It's a good thing if the black population is ever growing into the middle class. It means that that demographic is benefiting from workfare and the changes in welfare that kept the culture dependent soley on the government for many years. The most striking thing about New Orleans is that it is one of the most welfare ridden cities left in the country, and that is why so many people there were in such a poverty state. The able people haven't been made to start providing for and/or bettering themselves. New Orleans is an example of what happens in a nanny state. It's not that the government was not involved. It was involved too much. It's glaringly obvious.
I'm African American and am VERY offended
that he would even make the comment I don't care how he tried to clean it up, or what context he used it
in.
To say that the crime rate would be reduced if you aborted all African Americans is deplorable and your defense of the comment is sickening. It doesn't matter to me if he came back and says it's morally wrong to do so, well DUHHH yeah it would be, so why is he saying this $h!t to begin with.
There is a quote below from another African American. SM
He was not offended. What is your point?
The first African-American president.
I am not for Obama but I don't wish him any harm. All I have to say is....I would be scared out of my wits to be the first African-American president. I am not saying this because I am racist. I am saying this because there are some extreme racists out there who believe the idea of this is just wrong. Just look at what happened to Martin Luther King and he wasn't even president. I know that was back when race more of an issue, but it still is to some people and I wouldn't put it past some of those freaks to stop this from happening at all costs.
Like I said.....I wish Obama no harm so please no bashing posts about how I'm a huge racist.
just as i hope African American's aren't voting for Obama for that reason!
NM (i suppose that means "no more"? or something) im still a bit new to the board!
Thread topic is African-American Christian endorsing McCain.
rasberries
You make a good point, but I think the real credit for African American progress..sm
is education. You can take away all of the social programs you want to, but if there is not progress in education, you still have poverty.
Yeah, well, I seem to remember Democrat saying she wasn't African-American awhile back. sm
So which is it?
I guess you want the old white, wrinkly white guy?
Right wing horsesh*t being shoved out as "truth." Sad.
This stuff again. I thought this OWG stuff went out in the mid 90's.
There is much more to the world than your little conspiracy-laden corner of it. Besides, the ACLU fights these kinds of things tooth and nail. Thank Godess for the libbies.
I was brought up Buy American made products, keep American jobs.
Always bought American made cars and bought products from companies where my family was employed. Now look at America? We are definitely connected all around the world.
My feeling? Obama states he wants to start from the poor upward. Not the other way around like it has been for quite awhile. That to me does not necessarily mean just in America, but around the world by taking the poorest countries and working upward so America's pay wages and everything else will be so low and comparable to the poorest countries. After all, we are now connected together.
Cannot wait to see what will happen with the Swine flu this fall with the second wave and what it will do to the economy of all the countries combined at once.
Any child born to American parents is an American -
I am sorry, but I respectfully disagree with you - any child born to American parents is an American even if they are born overseas. The birth has to be registered with the United States, but they are still an American even if they are born in the foreign hospital.
I have 2 cousins who were born in Japan and they have no problems at all being "American".
Arab African????
Bet the African-Americans at the TEA parties
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Need to get that African slavery thing correct
Native Americans and free slaves also held slaves. Only 8% of all American families in the south had slaves. I get so sick and tired of all the apologies for things most people in this country know very little about. Was slavery wrong? Absolutely! But it has gone back since the beginning of man. My ancestors, who are Irish by the way, were also brought here as slave and were beaten, starved, raped, impregnated, you name it, just like the blacks. Do you hear history and present going on and on about that, demanding they be apologized to, compensated somehow, and do they feel entitled? No they don't! They got on with it.
Out of twelve million blacks shipped to the Americas (not America) between the 16th and 19th centuries, ONLY 5.4% of those were brought to the United States. The others were taken to predominantly black countries and sold as slaves in predominantly black countries. MOST of them went to Brazil.
What about the white slaves? Too bad we're so stuck on black slavery, we forgot about them. OVER half of all white immigrants to the colonies during the 17th and 18th centuries were Irish, Scottish, English, and Germans, and they horribly mistreated and abused as well. So while you're so busy apologizing for your ancestors, you need to get your facts straight. My ancestors were slaves as well, even though they were not black, so feel sorry for them if you want to pity someone. They too had their families ripped apart and many never saw them again.
If Rev Wright wants to continue to spew his hatred towards whites, which he does, and lets make no mistake about that, Obama does indeed need to be scrutinized closely for his continued presence in that church for 20 years. I don't give a rat's butt how may seemingly wonderful programs that church had. A lot of churches have great community programs but had very vile underlying reasons for the way they want to penetrate the community.
Prejudice goes both ways...so don't waste your time thinking that you need to feel guilty for anything or worry about what Obama thinks about you. His past relationships he chose after being a young man old enough to make his own choices were his to make. And he chose to make them with dangerous people, and people in other countries that were and still are more than questionable in their reputations, some very dangerous to us and many other countries.
You spend your time doing your homework about Obama and stop thinking you owe him or anyone else anything. You/we do not. Obama has chosen his friends very carefully and for reasons that you have a right to question, only because he is running for president of YOUR country.
So, if you think he is racist against you or any white to a small or larger degree, who cares? That's his problem he will have to deal with. Some very racist people are very good at hiding their true feelings because they don't want to be discovered for what they are.
Preposterous. US...interfering in African politics?
a schoolyard bully straight out of the shrub academy.
After I connect those dots, I see African-Americans voting for a man based solely on his race.
Not because they agree with his politics or think he's the best man for the job, but because he's a black man period. For the record, Obama is absolutely no MLK.
This election was not about race for me either. I disagree with Obama's stand on the morality issues. I disagree with Obama on his political issues. I don't think the man has any experience running anything, and now we give him the entire country to experiement with?!?!!? He has too many shady characters in his past. He's as slick as a snake.
Watch for a lot of upheaval and racial tension throughout the nation in the next few months. My point is this, your man wins the election and instead of behaving in a dignified manner and celebrating appropriately, many will riot in the streets and act like raving lunatics. It is so unbelievably sureal.
I feel like I smack dab in the middle of one of those end of the world scenarios!
Really, is this the best stuff you can come up with over here? How about some
I don't know why you say some of the mean stuff you say, so....
who are you to determine who is a straight thinking person? I think what he was getting as is simple. It is a FACT, like it or not, that African-Americans make up a huge portion of our jail population, much more than their 13% representation in the population would expect. Saying that a black person has a lower IQ because they are black is racist. Stating a fact like 70% of black children are born to an unwed mother, while sad and startling, is simply a fact and not a racist comment.
Since you take this stuff so seriously
look at who is #2---but again, I guess the Google fairies have worked their magic in putting these people under the word miserable.
so it's stuff everybody already gets anyway...
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Same here. Cant take any more of this stuff on TV.
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Actually new stuff, you just don't like to see it. n/m
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I think BB get all this stuff from
moveon.org or something. Sounds a lot like that sort of thing. 
Even if he did say that stuff...
who cares?! Is Bush in the White House now? No! Whatever lame remarks Biden might have made to him when he was in the White House really don't matter any more. He's just trying to puff out his chest because he has nothing else to do since Obama is keeping him on such a tight leash.
Unfortunately, like so many of the rest of our "leaders," you can't believe a thing that comes out of their mouths.
LOL! Who comes up with this stuff??
I have to forward this to my husband now; he loves a good joke!
This stuff was not broadcast
because anyone believes Bush is a groper or is worried that he has a potty mouth. it was published and broadcast to show how inept he is out of his element - the ranch.
bored with this stuff, onto something new
Mother of Britney and Jamie Lynn Spears is out promoting new book. In a Newsweek article, she points out the hypocrisy of her daughter being criticized for being a pregnant teenager and she being called a bad mom, but Bristol Palin is commended for valuing life and her mom is made out to be a good mom.
Not a fan of the Spears, but I thought she had a valid point.
don't make stuff up. You don't know that, and neither do I...nm
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Truly scary stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8fSe27iloU
of course he would say that stuff - he was running against him! nm
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More dumb stuff.
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Interesting stuff...
http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/elections/3723-mike-klonsky-obama-blogger.html
Mike Klonsky has had a blog on Obama's official website for a few months now (His first article is from February)...
Soooo who's Mike Klonsky?...
Quote:
Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist. He is perhaps most famous for being National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society in 1968...
...On May 12, 1969, Klonsky and four other SDSers were arrested at the organization's Chicago national headquarters for assaulting a police officer, interfering with a firefighter, and inciting mob action[/b]. A prank call to a local police station said there had been a shooting at SDS' offices. When the police arrived, Klonsky and the others were convinced it was a ruse to gain access to SDS' offices.[1] Klonsky convinced the police everything was fine, when a second prank call brought local firefighters to the scene. When the police attempted to force entry to the offices, Klonsky and the others resisted. Convinced state repression of SDS was coming, Klonsky told a national television audience on CBS' "Face the Nation" that police repression of the New Left was being planned by the U.S. Department of Justice...
...At SDS' June 1969 national convention in Chicago, Klonsky played a major role in the dissolution of the organization. A group of 11 SDS national leaders—including Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, John Jacobs, Mark Rudd, Bill Ayers, Terry Robbins, and Howie Machtinger—had met in April and May of 1969 to craft a response to PL supporters within SDS. Their article, "You Don't Need A Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows," was published in New Left Notes on June 18, 1969, the day the convention opened. The "Weatherman" statement denounced imperialism and racism, and repudiated PL's claim that youth culture was bourgeois. The Weatherman statement called for revolutionary violence at home to stop imperialism, and the formation of collectives in major cities to support violence and stop factionalism. |
Maybe you'd like to see a little more from our Weatherman friend?...
Quote:
In late 1969, Klonsky founded the October League, a communist party which in 1977 became the Communist Party, Marxist-Leninist. He was elected the party's chairman. The group opposed Gay Liberation and supported the regime of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran. Klonsky made several trips to China beginning in July 1977, where he was warmly received by government and Communist Party of China officials and treated to state dinners. |
Now either you believe that Obama complicitly allows this thing to happen on his blogs because of his association or you believe that their campaign site is run by such ignorant people that they unknowingly and freely let anyone who feels like blogging get their own page...!["](http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/rolleye0011.gif" "Rolls")
Of course, you could easily say "maybe Obama doesn't know anything about this loon and doesn't want anything to do with him!"...
tsk, tsk, tsk...Not so easy, my compadres...read on...
Quote:
In 1991, Klonsky co-founded the Small Schools Workshop in Chicago |
Co-founded?...
Wonder who co-founded it with him?...
Quote:
William Ayers, Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), and founder of both the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society, teaches courses in interpretive and qualitative research, urban school change, and teaching and the modern predicament. |
Okaaaaayy...
So what does this have to do with Barack Obama?...
Well let's look at the grant support for this workshop...
Quote:
GRANT SUPPORT
Grants obtained for the support of the Small Schools Workshop and/or the Chicago Forum for School Change at the University of Illinois at Chicago, co-director, principal investigator.
Annenberg Challenge -1997 - 260,000 |
Annenberg Challenge?...What's that?...
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Hmmm....wonder who the chairman of the Annenberg Challenge was in 1997....
Quote:
Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999 |
There you have it folks...
Mike Klonsky - Communist leader...and along with Bill Ayers, promoter of American terrorism, created a school workshop that received a grant from the Annenberg Challenge, the Chicago branch created by Bill Ayers and had Barack Obama as president and chairman, and now Klonsky gets his own little blog on Obama's offical website...
But you're not supposed to believe in "guilt by association", eh?...!["](http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/images/smilies/mad.gif" "Mad")
Let's look back at what Obama said about Bill Ayers...
Quote:
At the debate, Obama said of Ayers: “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense.” |
When Bill Ayers started the Annenberg Challenge and YOU became the founding president and chairman of it, you weren't 8 years old dummy...
Thanks - it too me a lot of deletions and stuff
I didn't want to offend anyone because I believe we all have rights as human beings to believe whatever we want to believe - I have a mormon sister (who grew up with me in a methodist church) and she keeps pouring on me how her religion is right and anyone who is not mormon will not be on the "higher level" after we depart and then it will be too late. HA HA HA But then again I have an aunt who feels that because we are not in the charismatic movement we are heathens. HA HA HA. Sometimes you just have to sit back and laugh at it.
That's too funny about the guy telling God to get his act together. God's probably up there saying "who died and made you boss". HA HA
Believe it or not some of us 'uns still eat that stuff
which is why we won't go hungry. 'Course ya gotta be a Hill William (classier version of Hill Billy) to appreciate them thar vittles. LOL
I think he has his stuff altogether, and if I were you
would not worry 1 second about his getting the big head. There have been others before him (say Kennedy that I remember well before he took office and while in office) and the same thing you are seeing, the adoring audiences, etc. were very apparent then also. Obama has a lot of sense going for him- nah, would not lose any sleep on such a trivial issue. The country is so glad to be rid of Bush that people are tremendously overjoyed about this new fresh face. I think he will be a tremendous president.
This is scary stuff.
I'm totally out of the loop on this one. When did this come about? I'd like to read up more about this.
funny stuff
"Well who wouldn't want to teabag John McCain?"
OMG I just totally lost it when I heard that! ROFLMAO !
Granted, noone wants to see stuff like that, but...(sm)
these people are not strangers to violence and humiliation (including the civilian population). They also saw what their own countries have done to prisoners (again including their own civilian population), which, as has been pointed out numerous times on this board, is just as bad, and probably worse. I think that has to play a role in it. We're talking about a different culture with different views of punishment and "rules of war."
The 259 is the cheap stuff, what I use most times.
I saw on the news the other night threats from the president not to ship oil to the US, I didn't catch the reason. And this could further raise prices.
I don't even want to think about the heating bill this winter.
They are anal about typos and stuff, Rep. sm
It messes up their notebooks. When challenged they have two strategies: Call you a liar or say you aren't worth their time to argue with. Pretty consistent and predictable. 
Wow. This is pretty scary stuff.
Guess there aren't too many logical conclusions that can be drawn from it other than the obvious. :-(
I read all that hot air, digg stuff
of whatever Brunson posts. What are you afraid of.
And stuff the pockets of the weathiest
Slash and burn. It's what they do.
As will the stuff that piles up on the other side....
when the debates start. We'll see how it all plays out, and how all of America perceives it, not just we on this board. That will tell the tale. Yes, she did say he was the man she admires most in the world. If I recall, as a young man, Obama snorted cocaine and drank heavily, by his own admission. Michelle still loves him. In my mind, both of these things are in the past, in their youth, and nonissues.
Please stop smoking that stuff...
it is interfering with your cognitive ability to THINK. This crock has been refuted A LONG TIME AGO. Please get with the program.
Wow....that's good stuff....and he does explain it....sm
very well, so that you can understand it.
Pretty ugly stuff for someone . . .
who is so fond of mudslinging!! He is a desperate man who would rather incite hate mongering than address the real issues at hand!!
This stuff has happened at both rallies, just not
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