What are you saying, death threats are okay? you missed the point

• I am not clear, why do you hate/fear muslims? - MAX
  • The thing that most people don't comprehend is....sm - oldtimer
    • I like what you have to say, it is a lot sounder than - MAX
      • Memorable movie quote - hmmmm
  • You don't have to be religious to be hated by - Muslims...don't you know that?
  • ? - "Palin"
  • for the same reason they hate any other ethnicity other than white...sm - oldtimer
    • How refreshing - Abbie
      • How sad you find ignorance refreshing..... - read the above ........nm
        • I don't find ignorance refreshing - Abbie
    • What a joke........ - sm
      • You have lied to the wrong person here. - Since you put yourself out as....sm
        • I have also been in a Muslim country - sm
          • And as a westerner, did you show respect - McC campaign trying to blame O for Troopergate. s
            • News flash for you.......their women are scared - to death!!!!!!!!
            • I'm sorry you refuse to see their teachings as - hate but they are......sm
            • The name line should read - of just demand it? sm
        • I'll help you out here...... - sm
        • versus - sm
      • And the radical religious right in America teaches...sm - oldtimer
        • No tolerant teachings at all....... - sm
          • Did you lift this Bukhari interpretation from the - Prophet of Doom entry with Palin's picture..sm
            • Don't have a clue what you're talking about so - that would be a NO! sm
              • You are in way over your head. - Like all Holy Books, the Quran is....sm
                • Complex...... - sm
                • You need to open your eyes....... - sm
          • thou shalt not suffer a witch to live - MAX
            • darn links never work right... - MAX
        • I am not radical because I am a Christian.... - sm
          • Does your Bible also teach you to lie and slander - other people of faith? sm
            • What does this say.......hot hate? - sm
            • you need versus? - nm
              • should be verses and yes, they are there - nm
    • Who are you referring to by "they" ? - MeMt
      • Have you ever read their Qur'an? - it teaches hate and intolerance...
        • Why is it that McCain supporters include - so many bigots and liars? sm
          • Of course you won't take the time because - turn a blind eye sm
          • Obama supporters are the most clueless people - Go look at his record, his relationships! nm
        • Oh yeah, I read it - "Palin"
    • You do realize there is the Black Republican - organization?
      • You just don't get it. There are black, white, brown and purple Christians...sm - oldtimer
        • add whether or not they think they are - gourdpainter
    • I agree - there is so much ugliness coming out - MAX
    • How about the hate spewed at Obama's rallies? - we should just be tolerant...right?
      • I don't hear anyone at an Obama rally saying ...sm - oldtimer
        • When did this supposedly happen? nm - HappyFeet
          • October 9 after Palin and McCain called him a terrorist - MAX
        • that is despicable, serious they are saying that? - MAX
          • First of all......... - sm
            • "kill him" speech is not acceptable free speech - it is against the law - nm - Amanda
            • What are you saying, death threats are okay? you missed the point - MAX
              • Max, are you talking to me? I said it was unacceptable - nm - Amanda
                • No, I was responding to the past above yours, sorry, - MAX
                  • 'post' above yours, again, apologies :) - MAX
          • what I meant was, this is being said from JM crowd? (NM) - MAX
            • This stuff has happened at both rallies, just not - being reported fairly...why?
              • Palin is encouraging this... - MAX
      • Hey, the hate has come from both sides. - sm
        • Have we already forgotten about Reverend Wrong - sm
          • a friend of mine has grandparents who were slaves... - MAX
            • My father in the 40s and 50s (not so long ago in the scope of things) sm - MeMT
              • Thank you for posting... - MAX
            • that is odetta, sorry - MAX

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Unbelievable!  Just yesterday, I posted this in response to Starcat below:

Bush only needs one more appointment to basically stack the Supreme Court in his favor for decades to come, long after he is gone.  Wouldn't surprise me if good ol' Pat Robertson starts *praying* for another vacancy on the Court (like he did before Rehnquist died), followed by the *mysterious* death of one of the more liberal judges.  Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Today, I read this.  The entire article can be found at http://articles.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20060315163009990004), but here is a paragraph from it:

According to Ginsburg, someone in a Web site chat room wrote: Okay commandoes, here is your first patriotic assignment ... an easy one. Supreme Court Justices Ginsburg and O'Connor have publicly stated that they use (foreign) laws and rulings to decide how to rule on American cases. This is a huge threat to our Republic and Constitutional freedom. ... If you are what you say you are, and NOT armchair patriots, then those two justices will not live another week.

I'm saddened but not at all surprised.  This just illustrates how deranged and dangerous these people truly are.  Pat Robertson must be praying really REALLY hard.

Michelle Obama is a career woman herself.  Between her and Obama....they make like 1 million bucks a year.  That isn't all his income....that is hers as well.  She spends time campaigning and traveling to give speeches.  You say SP shouldn't be VP because she has young children.  Here Obama is with young children and nothing is said.  We assume Michelle is with them 24/7.....did Michelle personally call you and tell you that??  I am just saying that this whole argument about not liking SP because she should stay home with her children is just as relevent to argue when it comes to B. Hussein Obama and Michelle Obama and their children.

I refuse to continue to banter back and forth with you about this.  No...I don't know personally if Todd is giving up his career to stay home with the children but I see Michelle doing a he11 of a lot that keeps her away from her and Barry's children. 

Of course the economy is important and on everyone's mind right now.  This is the worst economic fiasco since the Great Depression. 

It's not always about the money. 

While this legislation is targeted at abortion, it doesn't actually say abortion.  It says "procedures."  Given it's broad language it can be translated into any type of procedure.

But lets take this scenario into consideration.  Girl gets pregnant and wants to have the baby.  Girl's health is at risk if she has the baby.  Doctor does not believe in abortion at all, so does not have to give that patient the option of abortion.  Get the picture yet?  It's not all about abortion.  It's about limiting health care in general.

You won't see that kind of thing on those news channels because they don't report black people being racist.  however, if a white person would even hint at something that may be racist even if it is stretching the truth a tad or not......it is reported all over every newspaper, station, etc.  That is the double standard that I am talking about. 

Just like the reverend who prayed at the inauguration and prayed that the white may embrace what is right.  To me that was racist but not one person mentioned it on the news.  I was offended by that.  If that had been a  white pastor saying something like that about the black community.....it would have been all over the news.  Double standards, my friend.....double standards. 

Wouldn't condoning torture fall into the sin category?  --- which is not something athiests would worry about or preach about.  The obvious point that you are ignoring is the fact that condoning torture by any "christian" is blatent hipocrisy.

You guys are all about being against gay marriage and abortion because it would be a sin, and would like to base laws on these beliefs, but when it comes to torture (also a sin) it's a whole different ballgame. 

If they have done this with other presidents, fine.  If Obama is the first, it just goes to show the love affair the media, including CNN, has with Obama and the bias they report in his favor.  That was my point and I was trying to be nice in inquiring about whether or not they had done this type of thing with previous presidents, but since you have jumped on me for my post....I'm not going to be nice any more.  I'm tired of the love affair with Obama and the free passes he gets for everything including the obvious and blantant lies that he tells.  Makes me sick. 

The reason people are scrutinizing everything Obama does is because our country is in deep deep doo doo.....if you haven't noticed......and yes this started before Obama's administration but now that he is the big cheese on campus.....it is his time to be observed and if I don't feel that what he is doing is best for our economy and our country, I have a right to say something and express my concerns.  I'm not unpatriotic for disagreeing with him.  I'm not racist for disagreeing with him.  I'm not republican for disagreeing with him. 

Barack Obama is just a man.  He isn't the Messiah like the left try to make him out to be and he isn't the anti-christ like some on the right try to portray him as.....but he is our president and I have a right to voice my opinion on whether or not I think he is doing a good job and quite frankly......I'm not very impressed with him yet.

As for CNN celebrating Obama's 100 days as president....I'm sure they will make him once again look like he does no wrong and he is to be worshiped.  Therefore, I will not be watching it.  I had enough of the sickening adoration of him during the inaguration.  I am proud that our country has looked past the prejudice of skin to elect the first African American president, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized and questioned just like every other president that has ever been in office.  This is our country and we have a right to question what he does if we disagree with him.  I don't have a problem with an African American as president.....I just don't think Barack Obama was the right guy for the job.

And quite honestly....I'd be just as disgusted by this if this was the first 100 days of Hillary's presidency because there are a lot of things I don't agree with her on either.  So spare me!

we get?  I mean really.  Do you think that this was the only threat that we have ever had and we ignored it?  As for what Bush did after 9/11....I think he was 100% right bombing Afghanistan.  However, I don't totally agree with going into Iraq.

I just think that if we were attacked that McCain would be the one to hit them back instead of Obama....now now....don't do that Osama Bin Laden....that isn't nice....can't we talk about this. 

WASHINGTON – Threats against a new president historically spike right after an election, but from Maine to Idaho law enforcement officials are seeing more against Barack Obama than ever before. The Secret Service would not comment or provide the number of cases they are investigating. But since the Nov. 4 election, law enforcement officials have seen more potentially threatening writings, Internet postings and other activity directed at Obama than has been seen with any past president-elect, said officials aware of the situation who spoke on condition of anonymity because the issue of a president's security is so sensitive.

Earlier this week, the Secret Service looked into the case of a sign posted on a tree in Vay, Idaho, with Obama's name and the offer of a "free public hanging." In North Carolina, civil rights officials complained of threatening racist graffiti targeting Obama found in a tunnel near the North Carolina State University campus.

And in a Maine convenience store, an Associated Press reporter saw a sign inviting customers to join a betting pool on when Obama might fall victim to an assassin. The sign solicited $1 entries into "The Osama Obama Shotgun Pool," saying the money would go to the person picking the date closest to when Obama was attacked. "Let's hope we have a winner," said the sign, since taken down.

In the security world, anything "new" can trigger hostility, said Joseph Funk, a former Secret Service agent-turned security consultant who oversaw a private protection detail for Obama before the Secret Service began guarding the candidate in early 2007.

Obama, of course, will be the country's first black president, and Funk said that new element, not just race itself, is probably responsible for a spike in anti-Obama postings and activity. "Anytime you're going to have something that's new, you're going to have increased chatter," he said.

The Secret Service also has cautioned the public not to assume that any threats against Obama are due to racism.

The service investigates threats in a wide range. There are "stated threats" and equally dangerous or lesser incidents considered of "unusual interest" — such as people motivated by obsessions or infatuations or lower-level gestures such as effigies of a candidate or an elected president. The service has said it does not have the luxury of discounting anything until agents have investigated the potential danger.

Racially tinged graffiti — not necessarily directed at Obama — also has emerged in numerous reports across the nation since Election Day, prompting at least one news conference by a local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People in Georgia.

A law enforcement official who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly said that during the campaign there was a spike in anti-Obama rhetoric on the Internet — "a lot of ranting and raving with no capability, credibility or specificity to it."

There were two threatening cases with racial overtones:

• In Denver, a group of men with guns and bulletproof vests made racist threats against Obama and sparked fears of an assassination plot during the Democratic National Convention in August.

• Just before the election, two skinheads in Tennessee were charged with plotting to behead blacks across the country and assassinate Obama while wearing white top hats and tuxedos.

In both cases, authorities determined the men were not capable of carrying out their plots.

In Milwaukee, police officials found a poster of Obama with a bullet going toward his head — discovered on a table in a police station.

Chatter among white supremacists on the Internet has increased throughout the campaign and since Election Day.

One of the most popular white supremacist Web sites got more than 2,000 new members the day after the election, compared with 91 new members on Election Day, according to an AP count. The site, stormfront.org, was temporarily off-line Nov. 5 because of the overwhelming amount of activity it received after Election Day. On Saturday, one Stormfront poster, identified as Dalderian Germanicus, of North Las Vegas, said, "I want the SOB laid out in a box to see how 'messiahs' come to rest. God has abandoned us, this country is doomed."

It is not surprising that a black president would galvanize the white supremacist movement, said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who studies the white supremacy movement.

"The overwhelming flavor of the white supremacist world is a mix of desperation, confusion and hoping that this will somehow turn into a good thing for them," Potok said. He said hate groups have been on the rise in the past seven years because of a common concern about immigration.

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Associated Press writers Lara Jakes Jordan in Washington and Jerry Harkavy in Standish, Maine contributed to this report.

Sounds like the Bush machine is working overtime. 

for it like the Europeans do.   We are over taxed enough as it is, and to me over taxation is slavery.  I don't expect anyone to be forced to take care of my medical bills, so why do you think I should be forced to take care of yours?   I voluntarily tithe to my church...nobody beats me over the head every Sunday and makes me do it.  I do it out of a spirit of giving.   God doesn't make me do it, so why should the government?

One reason drug prices are so high in America is because of litigation.  People want drugs here, but if there's an ill side effect or someone falls over dead....let the suing begin!!!  We are a country of wusses and victims, and then we wonder why we pay so much at the counter, because all the costs of lawyers and endless studies just to try and keep litigation at bay

If we would get over our selfish wussification then life would be so much more bearable for all.  We would take care of our sick and elderly like God directed us to do in the Bible and our world would be a much better place, but I don't see selfishness ending anytime soon not as long as people think someone else should go to work for them when they are capable working and then pay their medical bills to boot.

Is anyone else just really tired of this election and all the crap that goes along with it?  I'm so sick and tired of political parties.  I'm tired of the families of the candidates being targets.  I'm tired of the mud flinging.  I think I'm going to take a break from all the political hoopla.