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What a refreshingly true post.

Posted By: Thanks. on 2005-07-08
In Reply to: Correction, he is called DUBYA sm. - SK




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    If what you post is true, then...sm
    Those people who say that Islam is a religion of "peace" had better get up off their prayer rugs and get out and make their voices heard and stand up for themselves. Because, by not denouncing the radical Islamic jihadist message, they are a part of the problem.

    The Inquisition is mentioned along with the Crusades...at least they eventually got the message that what they were doing was wrong. Along with the witch hunts in the 1600s.

    I also beg to disagree with you on another point..I happen to believe that there is only one true God, and his messenger was NOT Mohammad, but his son, Jesus Christ, who died to save us from our sins.

    But then again, this is only my opinion.
    Some aspects of your post are true...
    whites were also held in servitude. And the fact of the matter is, it was other Africans who enslaved their own people and sold them to Dutch traders who in turn brought them to America. White America did not invent slavery. That being said, slavery is a horrible institution, wrong, wrong, wrong. But, we should all remember, thousands of young white American men gave their lives on Civil War battlefields for the freedom of those slaves. "Religious wackos" as one person above called them, stood up and called it the wrong that it was. And the Republican President Abraham Lincoln (another "religious wacko") took up that cause. The rest is history.

    I will probably get flamed, too, but that fact is often lost in race conversations. While some white Americans did hold slaves (not all) and some white Americans did abuse those slaves (but not all), other white Americans righted that wrong by shedding their blood on civil war battlefields. Quite a few of my ancestors died fighting for the Union in that war. No one can change the fact that some Africans sold other Africans into slavery. No one can change the fact that some white Americans bought those slaves. Other white Americans did what they could, however, spoke against slavery and worked to have it abolished, and ultimately died on civil war battlefields by the thousands to in fact abolish it. I think that is a fact that should be remembered as well. There are always going to be the "bad" and the "good" segments in any race. But to focus on only the "bad" to the exclusion of the "good" in any race just fosters continued racism. Including all "white America" in one group and all "black america" in one group is just wrong, in my opinion...no matter which race does it.


    Wow, thanks so much for that post, really thoughtful and true!!.....nm
    nm
    true, your post has nothing inside it. Your point please?
    ??
    Original post is not true - see link for truth!
    http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

    By the way, we have not heard peep from the original poster since the quotes she posted were proven to be, at best, grossly inaccurate and completely out of context, and, at worst, downright lies!
    Great and balanced post, so very true, this crisis did not develop.....sm
    overnight, and certainly will not be fixed in a short amount of time. And we are All going to have to work together and forget party lines, and forget about the blame, work on a long-term cure and get provisions in government so that this type of unobstructed GREED and thievery CANNOT happen again! Free enterprise yes, runaway deception, elitiism, and legalized loan-sharking and theft, no!!!! Thank you for posting, Z!
    That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
    Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.

    Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
    P.S. Please scroll down after reading above post. Washington Post article included.

    Reprinted in Boston Globe.  Sorry!


    I wrote: I second JTBB's post, 'watcher's post is misinformed crap...sm
    pYou have also to read what's posted 'inside' the message.
    Oops, meant to post this under the loose trolls post...
    I'm going to keep ignoring these troll posts.  It's kind of fun, actually, just pretend you don't see them.
    Post the direct link. I don't see the post you're referring to.
    t
    The post I quoted was the entire post. It was not taken out of context. sm
    I imagine there are as many emotions and thoughts going on with our troops as possible and each does not feel the same as the other, which is obvious by the posts here. 
    Sorry gourdpainter, my other post should have been under the wacky Pakistan post (nm)
    xx
    Why did you post this? Republicans have been asked NOT to post here..Bye Bye.
    Why did you post this?  Happy Thanksgiving is enough but to be so happy we have a republican president?  Why did you post that?  I would like to remind you, you are on the liberal board.  Are you trying to start trouble?  If so, let me know and I will report you immediately.  No, Im not happy we have a republican president, a warmonger chickenhawk president.  Does that answer your question?  Now, go back to the republican board.  We dont want you here and actually the moderator and administrator have asked republicans not to post here..Bye..bye..
    Forgot to post a link in 1st post. Sorry.
    http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/money/tax/article1996735.ece
    Please refer me to any post where I referred to either the post...
    or the poster as ignorant. And I certainly never sunk to the levels you did at the top of the post, against a man who is ill in a wheelchair. Pot calling the kettle black...?
    I re-read your post, and I stand by my post.
    You are twisting his words by saying that he wants to make friends with terrorists. That is not what he said.
    Everything you said is true and can be

    easily seen by just reading the board.


    At least it can be seen by most of us.


    But it IS true.
    I saw a feature on it. They had videotapes of the recruiters coaching the kids on how to pass a urine drug screen.  It is absolutely true. 
    I don't think that is true at all. sm
    I think a lot of people are pretty sick of Cindy and her histrionics.  I don't see it as political at all.  A lot of people aren't going to sit by this time for another Vietnam where the antiwar crowd totally influenced the way the war was run.
    Not true. sm
    They are pro troops and pro Israel.  You are definitely not reading that board right. Is it the guns that offend you?  Or the war with Islamic radicals who all want us dead?  I mean, what EXACTLY offends you the most? 
    LOL!!! Oh how true! nm

    Not true
    Re-upped?  He joined the military because all his friends did.  Read Cindy's description of how he got hoodwinked into going.  Re-upped?  No.
    LOL. I like that...so true...nm
    When in doubt, blame Clinton.
    the true me
    Happy and peaceful but when I deal with rabid conservatives attacking me..I attack back..Happy and peaceful in my life and in my beliefs, you bet, totally..I can sleep well at night cause I know my ideology/politics help people, I help people..I am an extremely happy peaceful accepting person..However, when I get attacked, I can give as good as I get..I do have to say, the net does not show the true person, so I dont see the true you and you dont see the true me..I have met people who I have only known in the net and when we met, we became friends..So I would take with a grain of salt the impression you get of people over the net..we are much more..
    So true sm
    That clip would be hilarious if it were not so true.  It is frightening how true it is.
    It's true. SM
    I remember Nan talking about it.  It was way way back when some of us used to put our e-mails on line here. 
    This is SO true.nm
    nm
    True that is.
    Lesson good.
    Even if that was true (and I don't believe it is), so what?

    The one thing the radical right wing HATES is the fact that we have freedom of religion in this country.  We are all free (so far, anyway) to believe in whatever religion we choose.  It might be Christianity, or it might be something else.  Why does it even concern YOU how many Democrats are Christian?  It's simply none of your business, yet you want to jump to conclusions that may or may not be true and judge an entire group of people based upon religious beliefs, some of which might be different from yours.


    This is my main problem with the radical Christian right.  They don't seem to believe that other religions are just as good as theirs.  They believe theirs is the best, and anyone who doesn't share their specific religious beliefs are judged to be inferior people.  You want to force your narrow views on everyone, and surely you must know that just isn't going to happen in America.


    However, if Americans don't wake up soon and if you manage to wreck America and turn it into a theocracy, I can and WILL move to Canada in a heartbeat to escape your religious bigotry.  By the way, wasn't that the reason this country was formed to begin with -- to end religious persecution?


    I can only wonder why YOU haven't been nominated for Supreme Court justice, since you seem to have the only qualification required by Bush.


    Oh, that's right.  You're obviously not one of his close personal *friends* who worships him like a god and licks his boots.


    Why should she? It's true!

    NOT TRUE!

    MT was responding to a CHALLENGE to people to put their *money where their mouth is* and if they think this war is so *noble,* then why don't they either enlist or sign up for civilian services over there.


    MT said she WILL.  NO PROBLEM. SHE WILL.


    No spin.  They are her words.  She didn't say *might* or *would* or *maybe.*  She said she WILL.


    You're the one who's doing the spinning.


    I know it's not true.

    Completely false and irresponsible.


    Yes, well, that may be true.

    And this board is intolerant and extremely violently angry. 


    Now this isn't true.
    I am disappointed in you, PK.  We had a pretty good conversation on here at one time.  I actually thought there was some communication and I have enjoyed posting here. I never sidetracked anything or anyone. I was on topic.  However, many of the questions I have asked her in response to allegations have never ever been answered.  Why is that?
    How true.

    LOL!  If I didn't know in advance that this paragraph was about Ann Coultergeist, I would have sworn you were describing the Conservative Board.


    I know. Everything you said is true.

    I hope you have a great 4th, LVMT. 


    Not true
    but nice try. :)
    So true.
    But more and more Americans are waking up every day and seeing how they have been deceived by this administration.  I doubt that any of the die-hards on these boards will ever change their minds and see what's in front of their noses, but the good news is they represent an increasing minority in the USA today.  :-)
    This is true, we should be able to
    hear the debate, but I have a problem with Bush debating anything...he is so embarrassing whenever he speaks...so embarrassing.  We NEED a STATESMAN!!! and someone who has a command of the English language.  Oh plleeeeze. (thud)
    Not true...

    It's rare that the baby is full term, but not all ectopic pregnancies fail.


    Just thought I'd clear that up.  :)


    K


    if what you say is true

    Then by golly the Republicans surely have gone downhill a long, long, long ways recently.  Especially if you judged them by the surly cruel posts made by the Republicans on this board!


    Morally bankrupt Republicans with Annie Coulter at the helm!!!!  He-he-he-he.. That ship is gonna sink!!


    This is true.
    But I have noticed that you always are civil.  I think you are the only one on this board who keeps a level head, even when you come to the other board. Just an observation.
    What you say is true,
    but their president is cutting off his nose to spite his face. If we would just give him enough rope to hang himself I think he will take himself out. I understand he has become very unpopular, ignoring completely the platform he was elected on and the people are not happy. I believe he will be deposed one way or another and perhaps we will not have to invade yet a third country.
    This is true, and here's why. sm
    Or at least one reason why.  When Rosie O'Donnell practically glorifies Sheik Mohammed on her show, not one voice from the liberals decrying this is heard.  When the protesters marched and some of the signs were horrible, then burned a soldier in effigy, and in Arizona, dragged an American soldier effigy through the streets reminiscent of Somalia, not one voice from the Democrats is heard saying this is not right.  I think the whole party has slid all the way down the slippery slope and over the edge. 
    That is just not true.
    I don't know what you are reading or listening to but I know it is not me. I never gave a thought to global warming or abortion as being associated with VT. I was comparing the deaths of innocents. I don't hate Bush and he is NOT conservative. He is a BIG SPENDER for one thing and that is not a conservative trait. I am sorry that you believe that everything I say stems from a hatred for Bush. It doesn't. I believed as I do now for most of my life, a little tempered by age, but about as bleeding-heart without being dead as one can be. You know as well as I that many real conservatives in his own party, moderates on both sides have been concerned with the spending, the incompetence over and over because friends are put into positions that they are not qualified for and they have been voicing their concern for some time. It's not about Bush, it really really isn't. It is about (in the big long-term picture) a government out of control and a country spinning out of control right behind it and no one is doing anything about it.
    That is not true....
    the board is not heavily "censored" and liberals and conservatives were always allowed to cross-post as long as it did not get personal. Basically, could not stand the heat so left the kitchen?
    This is SO TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Anon. this is a great article. Unfortunately it is not really funny. To me it is a sad commentary on the potential candidates and how we are seen through the eyes of the rest of the world. My hubby and I have been saying this all along. Your unknown writer just phrased it a lot more succinctly.
    How true
    I have not figured out why in America, some cannot drive a car at his age (obvious reasons), in the work force you would be retired (forced), and a whole slew of other things that happen at his age. Can someone explain to me why you can run for President no matter what age (over 75 that is). I would think this is probably one of the most important jobs in the country and they let old senile people run (and I'm sure the health problems he has are hidden from public view).
    This is true, but...

    ...what about SUPREME COURT JUSTICES?  It's a LIFETIME JOB.  Right now, Kennedy is 71, Scalia is 72, Ginsburg is 75, and Stevens is 88!!!!


    Presidents come and go (hopefully), but a Supreme Court Justice is forever! 


    So true!
    Wonderful post!