What a horrible idea!
Posted By: SM on 2009-02-07
In Reply to: A plan that will work..... - sm
First, why should people who purchased homes that they cannot afford be rewarded by having their mortgages paid off? Second, what about people who were smart enough not to commit themselves to a mortgage they could not afford and are renting? I think it is beyond hypocritical of the conservatives on this board to complain about people wanting to be given something for nothing and then make a complete 180-degree turn when they are the ones on the receiving end. You signed up for the mortgage, you pay it. I am not contributing one penny to your bad judgment!
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This is just a horrible, horrible thing to say, I am speechless...nm....
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OMG...that is horrible!!!
Only 55 and too old for a CABG. How sad is that? That must have been horrible for your friend and her family!
Is this what we really want America? Listen up Kool-Aid drinkers!!!! Is that what you really want in health care?
Horrible for her family...
and hearing the candidates' (both sides) reactions to it have been interesting. All have the similar thread tho...must preserve democracy in Pakistan.
Didn't see anything horrible
I did some checking on the man and found nothing too bad. A few minor issues with "bad spending" that were cleared up. He does seem to have a very liberal viewpoint, but I certainly would not call him crazy. Seems like he has done a lot for SLC, including landing the Winter Olympics, which brought a ton of money there.
In his private career, seems like he did a lot of work for the poor and several civil rights cases. I guess that would make some conservatives a little afraid of him :-)
yes it's really horrible when someone so much smarter than you
she doesn't bully or monopolize
I also agree. Horrible to think that way.nm
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you horrible atheist
I have been called lots of really nice things on this board myself! SO WHAT. Be a big girl already! 
Isn't it horrible - see message
Right now it's just so bad I'm not blaming anyone for it. It's like being on a ship sinking, your too busy worrying about how to save yourselves you don't care anymore who put the hole in the boat. Think there's plenty of blame to go to everyone, but it's happening all over the world. Every day my husband tells me about riots and stuff going on in other countries. I just wonder if it will ever work its way out. I hear economist saying its going to take about four or five years, so now it's just struggling to survive.
It is such a horrible thing when
the American people disagree with the democrats who want to spend spend and spend more of OUR money. I guess that makes us a bunch of bumbling idiots, huh?
And you know what's funny....a bunch of these same Americans who don't like Democrats spending OUR money are the same people who didn't like it when the pubs were spending OUR money.
Then you have the ones who didn't mind when the pubs spent the money but hate that the dems are and vice versa. Double standards....all double standards. If McCain had won and was spending all this money, you would be spitting nails right now.
It must have been so horrible that O preferred not to
release the memos and the pictures.
And there are also some among them who are not yet proven guilty and are tortured until they admit.
Yes, we are so horrible we are fundraising for Katrina right now.
HORRIBLE PEOPLE WE ARE!
If it truly happend, it's horrible. But neither repub
to control what people do. All they can do is condemn the act. Obviously this was just some punk gangster, and my belief is that if she'd had an Obama sticker on her car, he probably would've carved an M for McCain.
That's horrible. Shame on the republicans
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ROFL! That is horrible but funny!
That's absolutely horrible - see message
Yes rape has got to be one of the most vile acts and I can't imagine how I'd feel if it happened to one of my family but what she did was absolutely dreadful. Not saying the guy didn't deserve to be punished, but to stoop so low and do to another human being something so awful, makes me wonder which one is worse.
I don't care how much you hate someone or how much rage you feel. There is never a good reason to commit violence, and of that type. Yes her daughter suffered through a rape, but the thought of what a human being was going through while they are in the process of dying in that fashion is just too much and makes me sad.
I believe that the lady and her daughter should have gone to counceling to work out their frustrations of injustice done to her daughter. If they were going to counceling maybe they should have switched counselors.
I will never think something like what she did is okay to do.
I feel sad for the daughter (rape victim) and the lady's family and also the family members of the rapist to know their relative suffered such a horror.
I hope the lady sits in jail and and gets the counseling she needs and I hope she doesn't get out for a long time.
I understand that is a horrible situation for
it's not my responsibility to pay a mortgage for someone who had no business getting one in the first place. I have to pay my bills and my mortgage; they should never have had a mortgage.
Right with you there, too!! I have horrible environmental allergies!...nm
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Horrible signs were stating
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Yeah, those horrible signs
Who do they think they are, gathering and exercising their first amendment rights like that? And all those signs came from republican central planning, didn't they? Maybe there could have been heavier attendance, but many of the potential supporters actually have jobs.
The MMM was organized by Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam. It would have been soooooo politically incorrect before, during and after the million man march to characterize all the participants as nuts, sexist racist kooks with a single hateful agenda, trouble makers, disgruntled black men just looking to cause problems.
Yet the reverse is excactly how tea party participants were portrayed, which is okey-dokey with most people.
In the dish it out/take it department, the left has pretty a sweet deal because they can say the most prejudiced, outrageous things about the right and get by with it. But when the right criticizes the left it is always claimed that we are selfish, racist, sexist, homophobic bigots. It's not about your race, your gender, or your lifestyle. It's about socialism versus capitalism, okay?
Yes, America is so horrible that nearly everyone from every country on earth sm
wants to live here. What does that tell you?
You are so right in your post, but you have to admit that in these horrible times particularly.....s
There are 50 and even 60-year-old workers who are filing unemployment for the first time in their lives, never thought they would, and are humiliated to do so! When there are no jobs to be found, and there is no money coming in, we do owe a hand up to our fellow man. Remember, Jesus said "for as much as you give to the least of my children, you do it unto me." There is welfare abuse, but saying that this is the main cause of our economic collapse or the major social problem is like saying that Jack the Ripper had a bad temper!! Desperate times bring desperate measures, it is good if you and I can to go bed with a full belly and a roof over our heads, but what about those WHO WILL NOT if they do not get help until they get back on their feet? Hey, I know some of those abusers and it gripes me to no end because my husband and I are working every available minute to raise our three planned, beloved kids. But atrocities like the OCTO-MOM and her 14 kids is the freakish, sad deviation from the norm, the bad exception. Do not condemn social awareness and social responsibility to those who truly need and deserve it, and that is more and more folks these days!! (off soap box for now, I think!!)
He invaded a country and committed horrible atrocities there...
we beat him back, should have taken him in the first Gulf war. But we're always going overboard trying to be nice and where does that get us? Same place it got us with N. Korea. Jimmy Carter barters a deal with them for food, and they take the money and use it to build nukes. Where's the outrage over that? Sometimes a people just cannot rise up and oust a dictator. They need help. And now the time has come for them to quit squabbling amongst themselves and make something out of their country. Let's not forget how many years it took for Japan and Germany to get on their feet. We need to give them a little more time. Heck, this country dissolved into civil war after 100 years. Time and patience.
It's like watching a horrible car crash in really slow motion.
Obama is letting them drop charges against terrorists for this horrible sick crime???
What orifice did you pull this out of?
A better idea. SM
Make everyone register as many other sites do. That way, you have to keep the sam identity. As far as the rest, both sides are equally at fault. Using the "They" term and the "You" term are shallow. I doubt the board is under new management. You allegation that posters got special treatment is another delusion. But since you won't be responding to me, I guess I don't need to let that bother me.
You have know idea who or what *they* are. sm
I would not make such statements about something you know nothing about. You read a story, it said what you believed and you ran with it. My gosh, how do you ever learn anything? Do you think I judge all liberals by these people? Freepers are large contributors to charities. They have a race on now to get together donations for Katrina victims. They are huge supporters of the military. I have been going to their site for years and I have never seen anyone threaten to kill anyone. But it's something you want to believe and so you will. It's too darn bad. There are liberals who post there, too. But, of course, you don't know that.
First of all, you have no idea what I would do
Clinton wasn't my favorite president but I have never hated him with the vitriol that you on the left have hated Bush.
As far as Lurker's thoughts about Bush they are assertions and not proven fact and I for one think they are hogwash--not to mention grossly, grossly over exaggerated.
Is that enough of an answer for you? Probably not...nothing is ever enough for you all.
I think I get where you get this idea
It's because all the baseless charges against Bush have truly been baseless. Let's talk about the void-of-actual-fact USA Today article about the so-called NSA release of private information. That has pretty much been debunked and exposed as yet another attempt to cast doubt on Bush. There are numerous other examples, and let's not forget *Rathergate*
Just because liberal journalists have a vendetta for this president and aren't smart enough to get anymore than forged documents to back up their reports does not mean the press has given the president a free pass. They just suck as journalists. That's not Bush's fault.
You have no idea.
but you have illustrated many points made about you here very well. That isn't bashing, my dear, it's called truth.
Now that's an idea!!!
I'm all for that! She seems to be a real go-getter!!
I have no idea.
A friend of mine has been totally hot to trot on this story & has kept sending me stuff about it. I haven't for obvious reasons.
I was reluctant to even post that on this board. It's become so obnoxious here that I may as well be on one of the left-wing sites.
I've found a much more fun place to chat. Lots of conservatives and Libertarians, and much more interesting than this jazz over here.
I have no idea.........
Guess I was raised by *gasp* liberals............frankly, no-bah-dee's bidness, but it is disheartening to see gay couples who love each other who cannot make end-of-life decisions for each other or any of the other "benefits" that heterosexual couples take for granted.
Hey I have an idea for
Since he is going to make all these changes and what not, instead of starting new government programs, why doesn't he just take all the money he is getting for his campaigns and help out people who are losing their homes, jobs, etc? Kind of a "put your money where your mouth is" approach? Then he would really be "different" from other politicians and I bet anyone he helped or saw him helping others would vote for him and he wouldn't have to waste time campaigning and making ads...
Just a thought :-D
not a bad idea.
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I'm not against the idea
of helping people who are helping themselves... regarding helping people with their loans because in turn it will help out the economy... this just seems to be the best suggestion I've heard so far but then again, I've not heard many. I will say this... I personally know someone who has multiple mortgages out on their home, in order to buy new vehicles, etc. not one cent put back into their home. Now I agree that people like that should not be helped, on the other hand, I also find it disgusting that anyone would lend them that money to begin with.
i had NO idea that was said
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Here is an idea
Because there is a lot of voter fraud (no matter what side you believe there is fraud on) do you think a voting system like this would work and if not why.
First, you do away with electronic voting. Everything is paper ballots.
You have a regular sheet of paper divided in half (top and bottom). At the top you have the name of one candidate with the word democrat or republican underneath the name (all in huge letters for those who have a hard time reading), followed by a picture of him/her (for those who can only recognize the candidate by their photo), followed by a big huge box. Same for the other candidate on the bottom of the paper. The big huge box is for people to put an X, checkmark or scribble inside the box.
Then, before you vote you will be asked by the people at the voting booths if you understand how to vote, if not they explain that you can x, check or scribble inside the box next to the candidate you want to win. Each polling place gets only the exact number of ballots (pieces of paper) as there are people registered. Also well ahead of time you tell people if they need to register to vote they need to do so ahead of time at the DMV and nowhere else (to avoid fraud). If they wait and don't register they will not be qualified to vote and will have to wait til next election and that's just tough because they know the rules ahead of time.
At the end of the night after the polls close there is a large group of people from both sides, they open up the boxes, take out the ballots and count them and on a huge blackboard tally up the votes. There are a huge number of people from both sides watching, so there is no chance of fraud. At the end of counting their tally is then sent into the main headquarters, again with a lot of people watching/listening from both sides so there is no chance of fraud.
I've just often wondered that seeing as there is so much voter fraud and a lot of it with computers (college kids are able to hack into the system), why don't we go with paper ballots (and nothing with little hanging chads). This is a huge box so you know right away who they voted for.
What do you think? I can't figure out why there is voter fraud at each election and it never gets fixed. Also, would you be upset it you had to wait until 11/5 to find out the true winner of an election.
Also, I think if a county or state is found guilty of voter fraud all their votes should be tossed out, no matter whether it is on the republicans side or democrats. Rules should be noted ahead of time that if you are caught of voter fraud you will be treated like the children you act like and your privilage will be taken away and if there are any angry citizens they need to take it up with the people in charge of the voting system in their county. This should be a law and take effect that way people know way ahead of time the consequences of fraud or any mis-doings and there will be no option to appeal. You knew ahead of time and you pay the consequences if guilty.
Just frustrated with voter fraud every single election and there just has to be a way to put a stop to it. Your thoughts?
I had no idea
what the heck? I just went to that website. Is this just one wierdo's website who thinks that he is the messiah? Or are you saying to me that there are real people out there, ordinary, everyday people, who actually believe that he is sent from God? Because I watch the news all day long, was gonna vote for O, and I have never, ever seen anything like this here.
You have no idea what you are asking for
part of me hopes Obama wins just so you all can see him for what he really is.
If he wins there will be no more balance of power. We will have a liberal congress with a liberal president who elects liberal judges. But I guess that's what you want, huh? Lets forget family values, moral ways of life. If it's inconvenient, kill it. If you want to marry your dog, go ahead. Don't want to work? We'll take care of you.
I have no idea
I have only voted once before when I was in the military and I did it by absentee ballot because I was overseas. So, who knows? I just left it in God's hands. But the above poster stated that it shouldnt matter. I hope she is right!
That is when the idea was first put out by the guy....
and may not even have been what the original poster was talking about. The idea was first put out there in 2000. If is still on the net, so the "idea" is still out there. I had no idea any such thing ever existed. That is why I posted it. The original poster might not have been referring to that particular website. Sorry for confusion.
Thanks, BWT... This gives me a idea sm
of what he said. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.
a really bad idea!
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You have NO idea.
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Where do you get the idea
that foreign made is better value? My husband drives a 1996 Ford F150. It just turned over 200,000 miles and has never had a problem. Our friends have a 1994 Dodge Ram that just turned 300,000 and they just put a new trany in it. Another friend has a 1994 Ford F150 that has over 300,000 on it...never any major repairs. These are all farm trucks that pull heavy LOADED trailers all the time. So what's wrong with that value for American made? Oh yeah, the propaganda tells us that foreign cars are better and less expensive. They are NOT.
My idea is this........
if you want change don't expect it to come from more of the same. My definition is simply that I would like to see people appointed who have honesty, integrity and true concern for the American citizens and those with COMMON SENSE if there is such a thing. I think we've had just about enough "experience" in Washington D.C. They do have the Constitution to guide them, something the "experience" is doing it's dead level best to destroy. As for who these inexperienced people might be, I don't have a clue. I wouldn't mind vetting them myself. For starters I might suggest Governor Mike Beebe from the Great State of Arkansas.
Is this your idea...s/m
of
SATURDAY NIGHT
entertainment.
You have my condolences.
Can you not afford something better than that?
Oh, yes, now I remembered you are a 'starving MT.
Now there's a novel idea!
Part of the problem we're in as a nation, I believe, is because people can't get past their "liberal/conservative" viewpoint to think for themselves. I also believe the crooks (on both sides) are counting on such sheep in their base to allow them to carry out their crookedness.
The US's idea of a just war? (sm)
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/06/gaza.hospital/index.html#cnnSTCText
The other side:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2009/01/200916191833159347.html
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/war_on_gaza/2009/01/20091585448204690.html
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