What's missing here is your understanding of this thread....
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-21
In Reply to: What's missing is a valid premise. - Obama does not support partial birth ABs. nm
it is about infants born alive after botched abortions and left to die without care. Partial birth abortion is when they turn the baby around in the womb, let all but the head be born, then stick a needle in base of skull and suck the brain out to collapse the skull and make sure the baby is dead before it comes out, to avoid that pesky being born alive thing that proabortion people so hate.
At least get your facts straight and know what you are denying before you deny it.
And yes, he does support partial birth abortion. He supports removing the ban on that heinous procedure. His wife sent out a campaign letter while he was running for senate in Illinois that said that very thing.
Sheesh.
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My understanding (sm)
My understanding is that his name was not on the ballot in MI because he did not want it on the ballot. Anyway, you would have to research that further. I can't remember the reasoning behind that.
About the FL and MI delegates, I think the reason for the meeting is because the party understands that they will need those voters come November. There were something like 2 million votes cast, so they don't want to push those people aside. It could come back to haunt them. Also, my understanding is that what the candidates agreed to regarding FL and MI was not to campaign in those states, or not to campaign heavily, and I think they stood by that agreement.
As far as legends in their own mind and all of that, I don't agree. Bill Clinton is loved by many, whether we agree or disagree - it's a fact. I think that is true for most US presidents.
Thanks for understanding
I'm glad someone understands what I'm saying.
I'm also saying I support Obama but I don't support congress. I don't think congress is working for the best of the American people, they are working for what is best for them.
If in a couple months or so we get out of this I will gladly come on the board and say how wrong I was, but if we don't and it keeps getting worse I will say so.
P.S. - Can't you support Obama without supporting the crooked democratic politicians? (I already don't support crooked republican politicians).
My understanding is
that these contractual bonuses are based on individual or department performance, not company performance overall.
If a sales person or department manager agrees to a base salary and the rest of his compensation to be bonuses based on sales figures or some other measure of performance, then meets/surpasses those figures, the company is obliged to honor that contract, regardless what other departments or the company as a whole does.
If my MTSO offers a bonus for surpassing a line production figure, what justice is there to withholding that from me because the sales department is not signing enough new accounts, the IT department is not resolving technical problems, the billing or payroll department is making too many errors - again - etc.?
If a company as a whole is failing everybody eventually loses. But individuals who are performing as agreed by contract should at least receive the compensation they have earned. Change the rules later, not in the middle of the game.
From my understanding....(sm)
No, they didn't get put into the closet. As far as relationships go, they were more worried about social status than gender. There is a ton of literature on these relationships, but very little about them being shunned, which leads me to the conclusion that it was either overlooked, accepted, or most likely just not an issue.
As far as Sodom and Gomorrha go, well you can call it the hand of God, or you can call it a volcano. I tend to go with the latter. However, it is interesting to note that the word "sodomy" originated from "Sodom" (derived from traditional christian usage).
What part of this are you not understanding
I just read a bunch of posts below and am not disturbed, but maybe dismayed is a better word. Whether you trust Obama or not because of his policies, voting record, political life, or whatever is your perogative (sp?), but to incorrectly be making statements not based on anything but milicious rumors spread around leads readers to believe the writer is a biggot and just does not want a black man (which I should state once more 1/2 black, 1/2 white) in the white house. I have no doubt if more of the white race came out and he looked more white than black a lot of this would not be surfacing.
First - Obama is NOT muslim. You can think all you want and hope it to be true but what part of the facts don't you understand. How many times does he have to repeat he is a Christian. Always has been. Raised in a Christian home, white grandparents, white mother, went to catholic school, attended a Baptist church, married in a church (not Moslim), children baptised in a church. To say he is a muslim is like saying McCain belongs to KKK after all he's a white dude. Pullease. Sure, his father was a muslim when he married Obama's mother but that's where it stops. Obama never studied the muslim religon or went to muslim services. My parents are catholics but I was not raised catholic and am not catholic. His mother later remarried someone from Indonesia and Obama attended a catholic school. Get your facts straight. He never went to a muslim school or studied muslim studies and he is not muslim. So what if the muslims like him, so do the Christians, Jews, Mormoms, Baptists, and many other religions!
Second of all on the flag thing. Obama's plane has the American flag on it, are you upset because the flag is not so huge it covers the plane from one end to the next? There's a flag there! Also, just because he doesn't have an american flag plastered all over the place on everything does not mean he is not "American". Have you seen him pledge to a flag of another country? No, he pledges to the American flag! As for the picture that he is standing not with his hand over his heart. I can't tell you how many times I've said the pledge of allegience and I didn't have my hand over my heart every time. Doesn't mean I'm not American. He's not trying to get rid of the American flag, but for pete's sake it doesn't need to be plastered in every square inch of empty space.
The poster who is not well informed about Obama's religion and trying to scare people into believing he's muslim when he's not is just plain wrong. It doesn't "ruffle any feathers" because you are just wrong. You may not want to "sugar coat any facts" but first you need to get the facts straight. People don't "hate" republicans, and certainly not enough that they would want "anything" in there. You could always put that statement on the other foot "People just hate the democrats so much they'll elect an old senile person to fill the position just as long as a democrat doesn't get in there". That excuse just doesn't sit well.
I'm no "Obama-lover" and I won't be voting for him but not because of malicious rumors on the internet or false statements made by the republican side. I'm basing my decision on his voting records and other issues that I don't agree with him on, certainly not from anything I get off the internet. You know there are people on both sides who hate the other candidate so much they are posting fall information, but for anyone to spread this...all I can say is "shame on you".
Well, thanks for finally understanding what I was saying.
Hitler maybe, but I'd have to think about that one for a while.
my understanding of the situation...
My understanding is that Obama says this is a practice that can be regulated at the state level. The federal government is just making sure that abortion stays legal and then the individual states decide how far their state will go with it.
From my understanding, the jobs
created would only be temporary. Don't forget, road and bridge construction only lasts in the summer in the northern states, and when those road and bridge jobs are done, what's next?
The money being doled out for infrastructure is definitely not enough. There are many, many roads and bridges that have to be built/rebuilt in the country and any one of them would cost $1 million and up. PA is getting $2.7M for roads. Is that going to take care of the roads? Doubt it. Headlines recenty in our paper stated PA was going to get $6B. I checked the charts and don't see where he gets that figure.
I'm not understanding the meaning of your post
Actually it almost sounds like something Hemmingway would write. HA HA. Anyway...just confused by the post. Are you talking about the record breaking snowfalls and bone chilling cold spells all over the world (oh so not global warming), or are you refering to the incoming president, and the last part of the post just lost me. Please explain.
Actually, it was my understanding that both arenas represent the
"war on terrorism." So in a sense, they are both the same war, just different theaters.
People with a lot more understanding and empathy than
.
So, I have trouble understanding abstract ideas AND
I have no sense of humor. Anybody else?
Better read up on that homebuyers' tax credit, as you have zero understanding of how it works.
NM
what am i missing?
i went to links, and i don't see it, just about the underground facility that the govn't has that i've known about forever...concentration camps???
You are missing the point. SM
It is known that Laura Bush was the driver of a car when she was very young in which someone was killed. However, much embellishment to that was made that she was drunk. When I asked for a credible link to that, you simply ignored me. This is not debate. It is throwing wild accusations out there and then refusing to back them up with verifiable data. I liken this to small town gossip, not a lot of truth to it, probably going to hurt someone in the end, but it sure is fun when we are making up stuff. Since you don't care what I think about you, you won't mind if I tell you that you have shot any credibility you still had left. Now, I will adjourn from "your" board and go find some adults to communicate with.
The link is still missing. nm
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some of it is missing, not just the pics.
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So what is your point - I'm missing it
I read my article a couple times. I'm not seeing what point you are trying to make.
I think every one is just missing the point...
see anyone's view but your own.
This is to what I was referring.
"Like a lot of folks in this state I have a job. I work, they pay me. I pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test, with which I have no problem.
What I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them??
Please understand, I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand have a problem with helping someone sitting on their butt. Could you imagine how much money the state would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?????
You are missing the point
It's not what he eats, its the sickening fact that the poster said he is like because he eats what we do.
Yeah, there IS an echo. Please listen before attacking me.
What point are you missing here?
Have you just not read anything? You seem to have inflicted this feeling on yourself. I have said nothing about the working people accepting welfare or food stamps when they have fallen on hard times. No one called you lazy.
I realize you are just too upset to actually read what I am stating and perhaps because of your personal circumstances, you feel you're being attacked, but if you would actual read what I have stated above, I believe you would see the point I talking about.
The point being I am not talking about the working people who through no fault of their own having to accept welfare, food stamps, or any help they can find for themselves or their family. I am talking ONLY about those who DON'T work, have never worked, and do not EVER intend to work receiving all these things you are trying to receive.
Don't you believe you, a person who has actually worked and tried to pay your own way in life, should have these things offered you over someone who has offered nothing productive to this ountry but taking?
Would you rather be turned down medical help or any help in the future because the money just isn't there because we have spent it by the trillions on those who have never even worked a day in their lives? I say to you accept everything offered you. You shouldn't have to have hospitals pull strings for you in the first place; you should be getting medical attention regardless, which is the point you are missing.
Those who NEVER work and are on Medicaid and receive all their care from the government, always get medical attention. Those like yourself who do work are having to struggle to get medical care. What part of that do you not see as unfair?
I believe you're missing something
I agree with Obama on this. The fight that we should be having (not necessarily the one Dubya got us into) is not with Islam. Much like that lunatic 'Reverend' Phelps does not represent all Christians, the Taliban does not represent all Islam. Unless you're wishing to start the kind of holy war that you are (mistakenly) condemning Islam of waging, you have to learn to differentiate moderate Islam from radical Islam, and accept that our facts that a war should be fought not based on religious beliefs but rather evil deeds.
You're not missing anything! (sm)
And (SURPRISE!) there are no lies.
Gore waited for two years before speaking out about the Bush agenda. On the other hand, Cheney is coming out after about two MONTHS, on a repeated ramage, appearing on every political show that will have him, is sending out his DAUGHTER to parrot his views and, in short, is trying to undermine the Obama administration. Cheney first denied using torture and now is proudly claiming ownership of it.
No lies here. But you obviously already knew that. 
Link is missing LVMT...nm
What's missing is a valid premise.
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Looks like it was a point worth missing.
you decide to let us in on what that elusive point might be.
Don't feel too bad. Obama is missing it too...sm
which will result in one of the many reasons he will lose this election, and be relegated to being one of the greatest "could have beens" in history, and never be heard from again. No big loss really. Maybe if he can get overcome his "present" voting style, someday he'll be back...but I highly doubt it.
He's history.
You're missing the point.
Her age dictates his eligibility to run for president. There are lawsuits out now regarding this.
You are missing the entire point. How sad. nm
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I think you're missing the point...(sm)
World economy, eliminting industries, creating new ones -- all things that can be dealt with.
Extinction of humans -- not so much.
I gues I'm missing your point
The whole text seems to actually reiterate the fact that one of the founding principles of the country is freedom of speech, even that which you don't agree with it. This lunatic Phelps is going into a community that is openly "Gay is Okay" with the only intent to cause problems, and the whole article is about the discussion of ways to circumvent Phelp's plans.
I think you should maybe read up more on the activities of Phelps and his group before using him as your poster child as a good Christian. Based on the military's 'Don't Ask/Don't Tell' policy toward gays, Phelps has felt it okay to go to the funerals of soldiers who have died honorably while serving their country in Iraq and proudly waved signs saying their deaths were retribution for the military's condoning of homosexuality. Frankly, even if I was a bible-toting, salvation-seeking, Christian who faints at the mere thought of gay marriage, I'd probably still want to distance myself from Rev. Phelps as much as possible.
If you don't listen to Rush, you're not missing much. sm
The Quotable Limbaugh...
On homosexuality: "When a gay person turns his back on you, it's anything but an insult - it's an invitation. The difference between Los Angeles and yogurt is that yogurt comes with less fruit."
On the homeless: "One of the things I want to do before I die is conduct the Homeless Olympics. The 10-meter Shopping Cart Relay, the Dumpster Dig, and the Hop, Skip and Trip."
On NAFTA: "If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people--I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs, let the kinds of jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."
![](http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/entertainers/pundits/rush-limbaugh/rushy.gif") On Native Americans: "There are more American Indians alive today than there were when Columbus arrived or at any other time in history. Does this sound like a record of Genocide?"
On feminism: "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream. Women were doing quite well in this country before feminism came along."
On feminazis: "Militant feminists are pro-choice because it's their ultimate avenue of power over men... It is their attempt to impose their will on the rest of society, particularly on men."
On corporate layoffs: "Why is it that whenever a corporation fires workers, it's never speculated that the workers might have deserved it?"
On Kurt Cobain: "Kurt Cobain was, ladies and gentleman, was a worthless shred of human debris."
Speculating as to how a Mexican won the New York marathon: "An immigration agent chased him for the last 10 miles."
Isn't the Bill Maher board missing you?
your link & good sense are missing.
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pardon my missing comma (blush)
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Only thing missing is Michael Jackson....way
You're missing one crucial point
No where in there did you say that these white evangelical ministers are spouting hatred towards black people, calling them "less than human" or spouting about "black liberation theology" or the teaching of "Dr. James Cone".
Now if our "white preachers" were to go on and on about "white theology" and if our websites said "a white congregation" we would be immediately portrayed as racist. But it's okay for the United Trinity Church of Christ (Obama's church or former church, whatever) to have all over their website that they are a BLACK church. See for yourself:
http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=27
So I take it a white person walking in there wouldn't be very welcome?
Talk about racism.
You're missing the point. She's not talking about
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.
When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
Nicely worded but you are missing an important point
I don't know the history of your posts, but when you suggest: "Democrats/liberals, start your threads, and I will not encroach upon them. I would ask for the same respect from you as I post independently. There will be no need for you to open any of them or to spend half a page piling on. I will respect your threads. Kindly respect others."
You are forgetting at least two things:
1. If we are supposed to NOT be divided as you post toward the end, WHY would you actively ask people with different opinions NOT to respond (encroach) on your threads? Do you want ONLY people who agree with you to respond? Think about that before you answer.
2. Until/unless the moderators CENSOR this board and not allow anyone to post to anything, it's not up to you to tell me or anyone else what they can post, or where. You say in your post: So let's allow both sides to present views, support their candidates, exercise our right to free speech, have diverging opinions.... but telling people not to encroach on your space and vice versa is the antithesis of "allowing both sides to present view... have divergent opinons.
Finally, don't be too sensivive: If someone responds to my post with hate, an insult, etc., I can simply CHOOSE to ignore the post. Choose your battles.
As for me, I have total respect for Senator McCain's *military* experience, but I don't want someone who has voted 90% with the most corrupt 'president' in our history - to be in charge of my America for the next 4+ years. He's not a Maverick, he's a hypocrite and bush minion.
I had that happen one time too...a post turning up missing. sm
And all I did was say I felt other posters were being too harsh. That was it. So I emailed the moderators and the reply I got was that if somebody complains about a post, then all the replies associated with that post are also deleted along with the offending post.
I hope this helps shed light on your missing post.
And I think everyone that thinks the issue of his BC is not important is missing the point..
if indeed he was born elsewhere and he is hiding it, what a way to start a presidency. What else will he hide or lie about. JUST have a judge look at your certificate and validate it for EVERYONE, so that we can feel comfortable in knowing.
Chairman of Missing and Exploited Children Caucus Resigns...sm
But not before he solicited at least two teenagers via email/internet. See articlee (be sure to read on and see what he says to them).
Every thread of yours
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New thread above.
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And, that has what exactly to do with this thread?? SM
BTW it's Western KY University. There is no Southern KY University.
The thread was that someone said he never...
talked about religion. I pointed out that he DOES.
actually this thread is about...
whether the members of military support the effort or not. you turned into something about info available when you claimed that you have more info and a more clear picture than they do and that they are "just following orders" And you are the one who didn't agree with the sentiment of the original post and started the "i don't like people who disagree with me," not dnh, when you started saying you had a clearer picture than they. You are simply out to argue and stir the pot. Not worth the effort to debate with you.
And no actually, if you follow the thread SM
I was posting to American Woman.
I read this whole thread here. sm
MT was very careful to say it was not word for word. Gosh, all the calling people liars. It's terrible. She said it wasn't word for word more than once. How about recalled incorrectly? Liar is a horrible word and I have been called it so many times on these boards for no good reason. Anyway, as I said, I am mixed race and I am not offended. That's all I am going to say because there is no use posting here. Flame away gt. Call me a liar yet again. I really don't care and as Republican said, you don't scare me. I think you are sad and pathetic and I think your life must be very empty to be as hate filled as you are.
This whole thread is stupid!
MT did not say she was going back to Iraq...she was answering a poll!!!! Where's the lie?
The subject in this thread is a cat.
How did we get to this? And is it really necessary to call names? I mean, we are civilized people after all. It's rather hard to understand why you attack someone even when they are AGREEING with you. I try to be respectful here, but it's very hard to communicate when the subject is changed constantly in a thread. Perhaps an I hate Bush and all conservative thread would be best started and all posts to that effect might go there. Nothing is being furthered here except what seems to be a very bad grudge. In a public forum. Really not cool.
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