Well....pardon me if I want to separate sour grapes...
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-05
In Reply to: why have you taken it upon - BDAyes
from the truth. Verifying facts is not critiquing. I do it because I want to know the truth. Somehow it loses its punch when she lists: "She has hated me since 1992." lol.
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The grapes are SOUR
anyway, said the disgruntled fox.
Sour grapes..sm
It is not necessary for a senator or congressman to go to Iraq to know what is going on there, but for those politicians who need to rely more on image than substance, these trips may be helpful, even though they do end up only preaching to the choir. No response to the personal slam is necessary as it adds nothing but contempt to the dialogue. This “hoohah” has a much more dignified name, although it seems to be a 4-letter word for some. It’s called diplomacy. The US has a long history of it and millions of Americans and other “citizens of the world” look forward to seeing this honored tradition restored. It sure beats the heck out of invasion, occupation, bombing countries into democracy and all that collateral death and destruction. Denying doesn’t make it so. McCain challenged Obama, the media goaded him and he complied with their wishes. More importantly, he came out smelling like a rose, and for all of us who paid attention, it was a long overdue breath of fresh air. This demand to hear Obama admit that the surge worked is nothing more than a distraction and a desperate ploy to throw attention off the success of his trip. He is not alone in his views about the surge and about the needless war that preceded it and he is not required to say what his detractors want to hear. He is simply being true to his own beliefs, something that many among us find extremely attractive.
Sour grapes.
simply does not begin to compare to Obama's. It's just kills you guys when you have a momentary insight into the vacuous plan your candidate presents.
A close examination of Obama's healthcare plan AND the history of debate on this subject dating back to the early 90s reveals that not only are his proposals feasible, they are exactly what is needed to make healthcare affordable and accessible. What in the world do you folks have against insurance plans that cover pre-existing conditions? In fact, I am old enough to remember when they did just that, so I know that it is possible and that the insurance companies still managed to enjoy reasonable profits and competitive stock prices. Get over yourselves, already.
Exactly sam. The only sour grapes
I have is that my household falls in the category of rich according to O and he is going to tax the heck out of us in order to help those who won't help themselves. Socialism is on its way baby, and those who are blinded by O are in for a rude awakening when it starts to slowly creep in. It's not going to happen overnight, it will happen in a way that will be palatable and not rouse suspicion, stated in a way that many will believe. I am kind of looking forward to the backlash that's going to happen in the coming years; thank goodness we here are prepared for it and have seen it coming; we have not been led to the cliff only to be thrown off of it.
Sour grapes from
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Nobody said otherwise. He's just a sour grapes
no self-respecting "leftie" would be caught dead in the same room with him.
sour grapes and
No, YOU can't.
OBAMA WON, someone is sour grapes!!! tee hee
smiling
sour grapes, chew chew, sour grapes nm
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You are munching on sour grapes.... too bad nm
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Sounds like sour grapes because OBAMA WON
HE WON
What is nasty? The sour grapes you must chew? nm
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Just sour grapes because Err America is dead in the water???
Media matters wouldn't know satire if it was intelligently explained to them. Rush has fun with people like this who are so serious they look as if they never take the hangers out of their coats. Everything mediamatters spouts about him are things that Rush was saying just to get their goat.
They fall into his trap every time, and it makes them look like the humorless people they really are. He was doing the same thing with the Survivor remarks he made last week, and as you can see people took him very seriously. They play right into his hands.
Wow, such sour grapes!!! I know it's hard to lose but try to be classy nm
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sour grapes because McGeezer and Ditz lost hahaha nm
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Calling people honey and dear just weakens your lame repub cause SOUR GRAPES
too bad you can't be a real American and be proud of Obama!
I know SOUR GRAPES squish when I hear it! hahaha!!!!! GLOATING !!! I'm gloating about Obama
hahaha, jealous
Would this justice be able to separate
her religious views from legal views? Apparently NOT, if, during this secret conference call, a very select few Americans were privy to the information that, in fact, she WOULD overturn Roe v. Wade because of her religious beliefs.
If religion can't be a reason to exclude someone from the bench, it likewise can't be used as a reason to INCLUDE someone on the bench, as Bush attempted to do as a way to reassure his base *wink, wink, nod, nod* that they shouldn't worry, *She's one of US.*
That's only one troubling aspect of her nomination, though. Even Robert Bork *borked* her, saying she is a *disaster* and that she was a terrible writer.
The fact that she's judged Bush to be the most *brilliant* man she's ever met casts even further doubt about her ability to *judge* (but I admit that's an extension of my personal opinion and doesn't really count).
John Roberts is reported to be a very devout Catholic, yet nobody raised an eyebrow about that because his religion was never an issue. Bush himself MADE it an issue.
Can you name me even ONE evangelical who would NOT vote to overturn Roe?
It's becoming clearer and clearer every day that this woman was nominated (1) because she's a Bush crony and (2) because she will guarantee that Roe will be overturned based on her own personal beliefs, not based on established legal precedent.
So you believe we need separate parties to
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Two separate issues
I see again you are trying to detract from the crime going on in government.
First I could care less if someone has an affair. I didn't care when Clinton did, Edwards did, or any democrat or republican does. Last I knew having an affair is not illegal.
This happens to be a crime.
Would you hire somebody who on 3 separate occasions
description?
A separate issue entirely. History tells us that
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Wow, you sure are quick! BTW...love grapes! nm
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sweet - more like sour and rotten LOL LOL LOL
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Geez. This has to be the most sour, unhappy bunch of people I have ever...
seen. sigh.
Pardon me.
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beg your pardon?
It is you who do not know Kyoto and the harmful effects..PETA, great organization. I have belonged to it for years. Why, your buddy, Blair..you know Bush's socialist friend, he thinks Kyoto is the right thing..so does Russia..and so many other enlightened countries and states of the USA..It is just Bush and his dimwitted mind that cant grasp the whole picture..of anything.
Pardon me, but...
You don't know who I am and for the record, I have never posted anything rude or confrontational. I like to debate, but if you will re-read what you just posted above, you will see who is rude and confrontational. It's you. I don't let politics cloud my humanity. I don't hate liberals, I don't disqualify people from my life just because we have differeing political viewpoints. I have many liberal friends and co-workers and family members. Their politics don't preclude them from my friendship or love. Some liberals are hateful, and so are some conservatives. However, you feel that ALL convervatives are hateful spiteful pieces of trash that are not worthy of even a conversation with you. That is what I meant by going around the bend. When it takes over your life to that point, you've lost your grip. I really hope you have a nice day, and I don't mean that sarcastically.
I beg your pardon. sm
The rules apply to both boards. I did not happen to visit this board at the same time. I have consistently in the past posted on both boards. I don't appreciate the insinuation that I favor either board.
Pardon me. sm
I realize now that you were using sarcasm. Sorry. It was so thinly veiled behind silliness.
Pardon me if saying ...
*It was like trying to talk to my mother who had a personality disorder...* YOU said it, I didn't, and you were bashing me and using your mother's illness to do it...YOU brought it up, I didn't, and why on earth would you do that? Why on earth would you post your former best friend is a schizophrenic, on a politics board? YOU did the disservice. YOU did the bashing, and YOU brought up the mental illness. Good grief. Get a grip!!
Pardon me, but there was hardly
any crossing the party lines from 2001 to 2006 when the repugnants soared the debt, the Terri Schiavo case was just insane and anti-constitutional, people suffering in the aftermath of Katrina, and on and on. So much for bipartisanship on the Repugnants side!
I beg your pardon, but as far as what
I have heard, President Obama has been tied up with celebrating Easter and naming the new WH puppy this weekend. He had little to nothing to do with freeing this man!
Pardon ME?! Who ever said I was a conservative? sm
Why would you assume so very much. There were a lot of posts pro and con by veterans. The post I quoted was one that struck me because I was born and raised in Oklahoma and it was a soldier from Oklahoma. My goodness, what a huge brouhaha over one simple little post. Well, I certainly won't post here again.
Pardon me, but this is ABSURD! sm
Not only absurd, but you have ASSUMED that I am a Christian. How dare you? I mean, really! You make a lot of assumptions, accused me above of saying things I did not say and then have the NERVE to say this. News flash, gt. ALL of the MSM comment and prophecy about Israel HOURLY and a lot of them are not Jewish. Scholars who study Israel are not all Jewish. I think this is the most bizarre thing I have ever read.
Pardon me but that's not quite true
Not really bashing on the con board. Just folks calling others yucky and then being sarcastically and cruelly chided because that's the best they can do as far as the nasty insults. What started it was someone calling it the Brunson board. Excuse me, but doesn't really qualify as a nasty insult. Check it out.
Pardon me if I do not think this is a victory for anyone. nm
Pardon me, Teddy....
but just because someone posts here what they do, does not mean they do it. And if I do not choose to blow my own horn and brag about all the wonderful things I do, please do not interpret that to mean that I do not do something. I am retired and therefore can no longer serve, that does not mean I have never served or if I was able to serve I would not be right there. Please do not preach to me about involvement. And please to answer my question. Why do you not take this peacenik talk to the people who threaten the peace? Unless of course you are a terrorist apologist who thinks the United States is the big bad wolf who causes all the problems. If you believe that, then you should be on the first plane out.
Last time I looked, I and no other American had flown a plane into a building and killed 3000 people in one day. Last time I looked, I or any other American had not bombed embassies, bombed the Cole, downed the plane over Lockerbie, bombed the World Trade Center the first time...you are sooo typical of the angry liberal...and so typical...*my boyfriend says* *Michael Moore says* *Lurker says* Have you ever, my friend, had an independent thought while your butt is sitting there comfy in in YOUR chair??
And please to do the research...there are a great many in Congress who have children serving right now. I know people personally who are serving right now or have children serving right now. You might want to jump back down off that high horse and check out your rancid statements.
As long as we are on butts...you make mine hurt.
Have a good day!!
Pardon me for disrespecting
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pardon me but, what are you talking about? what has that to do with
this particular post? We get it you are in love with SP, we hear it loud and clear, but, again, what has that got to do with the interview where someone posted perfectly legit post?
Pardon my faux pas........... sm
that belongs in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.
But it makes my argument no less valid.
Pardon me for saying so but here is no way Bush ever said that about the Constitution.
No way.
Pardon the typo in the post above....
meant to say $120K a year, not $120 a year...sigh LONG DAY...lol
Well pardon me for believing what the Center for....
Palestinian Research says on their website. You saying they are liars?
I did not say anything about the Republican organization being apolitical. I said the Palestinian organization you cite state on their website that they are APOLITICAL. Perhaps you should call them on it?
I did not say Obama was a Jew hater. Jesse Jackson said he was. I did not twist Barack Obama's arm and force him to go to a gathering for someone who hates Jews, be close personal friends with someone who hates Jews, and want to sit down and talk with no pre-requisites to a man who has called for the annhilation of Israel. He did that all on his own. Now common sense would tell you "if the winds turn ugly he would fall on the side of Muslims..." Look up THAT quote why don't you. Then it appears to me that his sympathies are NOT with Israel or the Jewish people.
As to what happened at the farewall dinner...I did read the transcript on the LA Times site. It does say that he praised and toasted the man. If that is all that is there, release the tape. Releasing the tape DOES NOT identify the source. That is an excuse. If it was the goods on McCain, every news outlet on the face of the planet would be hammering the LA Times for the tape. They sure didn't mind demanding that the source who outed Plame be revealed did they?
They only trot out "ethics" when it suits them to do so.
I don't think I am the only one in need of help intrepreting...got a mirror handy?
No, he didn't pardon them..... he commuted
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Pardon me. Are you saying the rules are not enforced equally? sm
I asked for an example, i.e., a specific post. Which post is it specifically. I do not have time to read every post on this board. Also, you said insults. I asked for examples of that. Again, you did not provide any. I am not quite sure how I am to do something about anything when you are not cooperating. I have, in the past, posted equally on both boards regarding sticking to the boards you belong on. However, I can't assume that simply because someone disagrees with your point of view, that they are of a certain political persuasian. That would be, indeed, labeling and unfair on my part. I will post another reminder about which board to stay on, but I don't appreciate your insinuation that there is favoritism here. As the board owner has said before, if this board is not to your liking, you certainly have options.
Well pardon me, but how can you discuss the present without a history of sm
what shaped it? It isn't possible.
Pardon the interruption, but Puerto Rico
Is not a foreign country. It is part of the U.S. They even vote in our elections. Not trying to be nit-picky, but just in the last week or 2 I've heard SO many people (including clients) talking about so and so immigrating from Puerto Rico. That's like saying someone immigrated from Hawaii to Wyoming. Sorry...little niggle in my brain that just had to be scratched. }}sigh{{ much better
pardon my missing comma (blush)
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Bush is trying to pardon himself - link included
If this is not enough to get you going I don't know what is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RwoFcLgxA0
pardon me, racquet - well, I guess it can be spelled both ways
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