Well pardon me, but how can you discuss the present without a history of sm
Posted By: MT on 2006-07-19
In Reply to: When you can't defend the present why do you always bring up the past? - double wow
what shaped it? It isn't possible.
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I think you like to present yourself
as being right and more knowledgeable than anyone on this board about almost everything that you address; much more important than *keeping things real.** You want all of us to make note that you are right, more informed, more well read, more educated on just about everything that is discussed here...OKAY, you got it!!!, Enjoy it.
I still believe my friend, not because the cost of gas in CA is really that important, but because she is my friend and I have no reason not to believe her and even more, she has no reason to make it up, we were not discussing anything remotely related to energy or conservation; it was just a passing comment on her part as we drove past the local Chevron. But it seems to be quite important to you so, as I said, I will defer to you and all of your many resources in the future. No prob.
I believe I used the word *present*. nm
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birthday present
I just wanted to make sure I was giving the correct information. This was for her birthday last year. He bought her earrings that cost $5,000 and she exchanged them for earrings that cost $12,000. She checked with her husband and he came back in and bought the earring for $12, 000.
To be fair to the present administration..
There hasn't been a SINGLE PRESIDENT willing to address the borders. I wish Bush would get off his duff about the border too, but if he did put a military clamp down on our border, you'd have a huge uproar from the civil liberties camp. You can never make everybody happy.
As for spending... Most Democrats never met a dollar they didn't want to spend. Wanna have your hair stand on end? Read a synopsis of The Big Dig in Boston, a la Kennedy and Kerry. Talk about a money pit at the taxpayers expense. If only it were a perfect world, but it never will be.
Does anyone else see a clear and present danger?
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You mean the other women who dare to present
Americans are not a monolith.
He does not present the certificate that states the
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I was trying to discuss things with you
You obviously have a great hatred for our country and our president and cannot see the difference between Bush and world leaders who are set on the destruction of the United States and Israel. The Iranian president has made his intentions known about what he wants to do to Israel and the U.S. In fact, he had a nice little P.R. campaign in his country this past week detailing what he wants to do to us. If you are so naive to believe he just wants his country to have energy from nuclear plants then I guess you deviate from what much the U.S. and the rest of world thinks about Iran's intentions.
I said the nuclear option should be the last resort as I believe our president would make it, but you are so lost in your world of conspiracy theory on Bush's character and intentions that you evidently missed that part of my post.
I would like to know where you got the so-called Bush quotes. This is the first time I've heard people actually use quotes--where did those come from? I hope not a hearsay opinion piece, because that wouldn't lend much credence to those so-called quotes.
I was actually joking with you when I made the *shopping spree* remarks. I know you are much too intelligent to actually go and do that. You may, in my opinionm be a little misguided by your emotions but I know you're not that stupid. I'm sorry you cannot see humor in someone discussing this topic with you. I'm even more sorry that you feel you have to label everyone who disagrees with you as uninformed and unthinking. People will have different opinions with you on many issues but that makes them neither stupid or uninformed. Have a nice day...
I am not asking you to discuss Israel. sm
I know that it happens all the time. I am sorry that it does.
I refuse to discuss
religion with Moonies or Scientologists. There is just no common ground. The same way as I refuse to discuss politics with people who actually consider Fox a news station. They are indoctrinated and innoculated from the truth by daily coordinated talking points to distort any event (such as saying Charlie Gibson looking down his nose at SP or was too rough on her) to favor their desire to keep the corrupt repubs in power. It's a waste of my time.
Why can't I continue to discuss
You all carry on about Obama's palling around (re: believing things that simply cannot be substantiated), but you sure can't take it when someone turns around and comments on your precious heroine. How very sad for all of you who hold this vapid, undereducated, unqualified, power hungry example of hollow charm in such high esteem. Perhaps we should be discussing your judgment instead of hers.
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or
post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or
post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.
Your idea of a reply very often isn't up for discussion. You seem to think it's the only one that matters. End of discussion.
Okay - let's discuss the $9 mac and cheese.
Personally, I love bacon crumbs on my mac and cheese. Anyone else?
When you can't defend the present why do you always bring up the past?
I am posting here to present a differing view...
just like the liberals who post on the conservative board. This IS America, my friend. We do have the right to do so. Why is a different opinion so aggravating to you? I have read, and heard from liberals own lips, what liberals stand for. There are a few of you who post on this board who are the antithesis of that, sooooo....why are YOU posting here and what does it matter who else does?
Obama refuses to present an official
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The present mess has nothing to do with George Bush...
and everything to do with Mr. Dodd and Mr. Frank and the other Democrats who consistently blocked reforming of Fannie and Freddie. They deserve most of the credit for this fiasco.
What do you expect? You just come to antagonize not discuss.
But you don't do that. You only discuss the democratic past.
In order to smear it.
No talk about the 12 prior years of Reagan and Bush.
A time to dissect and discuss a war...
is after your military is at home and safe, if you want to debate it pubically. The time to discuss the war and how you as an American feel about it is in private until they are safe. If you want to discuss it while they are still at war, discuss it in town hall meetings. Discuss it at your house. Discuss it at Wal-Mart. Discuss it in your front yard. Write to your congressman. But do not do it publically while men and women are still fighting. You are entitled to your feelings and to express them. However, common courtesy, in my opinion, should keep a person from going public while men and women are still fighting. All that does is embolden the terrorists. They have said so themselves and it is pretty obvious that it does. I saw an interesting report on it this morning, how that is the number one *battle front* for AL Qaeda now...just feeding the propaganda machine with the daily stuff from the American public. Frankly, I don't think that is anything to be proud of. But that is just me.
Sam does discuss issues and gets attacked for it.
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What about parents who don't discuss with their kids?
And so you know right off, I'm not a Barack fan nor McCain fan. However, my own personal beliefs aside, I believe "it takes a village to raise a child" and there are FAR too many parents NOT doing their jobs these days, which forces schools, governments, etc. to jump in to help. I see far too many parents who'd just as soon go to the bar than raise their child. There are parents who are apathetic, and there are parents who are embarrassed or ill-informed themselves to teach their kids sex ed. I don't think sex ed is a problem at all in school, so long as it's in the context of health education and not presented to students in a biased manner of some sort. It IS how mammals reproduce and therefore does have a place in education.
God gave us free will and if you try to control the free will of someone else, how is that right? I believe in consequences of free will when someone chooses wrong, which is why we have laws in place. I don't believe it's any one person's or party's place to tell another how to live their life, period.
Personally, I'd like to see more parents do their jobs at home so gov't and schools didn't have to do it for them (and all the rest of us too as a result), and sure, ideally I'd like to see more kids abstaining from sex altogether. But I'm also a realist and know that my beliefs and willpower aren't the same as everyone else's. That's what is supposed to be great about USA.
The reality is that not all kids have the willpower to abstain in the heat of the moment, no matter WHAT their upbringing or what wonderful parents they have. As you said, it's everywhere - on TV, movies, ads, games, you name it! It's in their face now more than ever, so to ignore it and act like it won't ever happen isn't the answer, either. No, I don't know what the answer is, either, but I don't think that's it.
Also, to take away any access to sex ed and/or birth control at all is in a sense forcing the ideals/morals of one group of people on another and basically taking the free will of the other group - how do you reconcile that? I'm being sincere, as this question plagues me often when considering these issues.
I never meant to discuss the money -
my point, Kendra, was just that these kids can already be treated without their parents consent, that that part of it was nothing new.
Honey, I would glady discuss this
with you privately. Since you seem to be so well-read, as I am also, we could have a great discussion on this subject. The market can easily be manipulated by speculators and the outrageously rich to sway political minds. When the market is down it favors the dems, it's a fact. When the economy is good, the current administration gets the credit; when it's bad the same also happens. You don't think that can be manipulated at all?
My own humble opinion on why O will be elected are these: The economy, hatred of Bush, white guilt and uninformed voters, period.
Maybe she just doesn't have anything to discuss with you....pitiful
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Pardon me.
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beg your pardon?
It is you who do not know Kyoto and the harmful effects..PETA, great organization. I have belonged to it for years. Why, your buddy, Blair..you know Bush's socialist friend, he thinks Kyoto is the right thing..so does Russia..and so many other enlightened countries and states of the USA..It is just Bush and his dimwitted mind that cant grasp the whole picture..of anything.
Pardon me, but...
You don't know who I am and for the record, I have never posted anything rude or confrontational. I like to debate, but if you will re-read what you just posted above, you will see who is rude and confrontational. It's you. I don't let politics cloud my humanity. I don't hate liberals, I don't disqualify people from my life just because we have differeing political viewpoints. I have many liberal friends and co-workers and family members. Their politics don't preclude them from my friendship or love. Some liberals are hateful, and so are some conservatives. However, you feel that ALL convervatives are hateful spiteful pieces of trash that are not worthy of even a conversation with you. That is what I meant by going around the bend. When it takes over your life to that point, you've lost your grip. I really hope you have a nice day, and I don't mean that sarcastically.
I beg your pardon. sm
The rules apply to both boards. I did not happen to visit this board at the same time. I have consistently in the past posted on both boards. I don't appreciate the insinuation that I favor either board.
Pardon me. sm
I realize now that you were using sarcasm. Sorry. It was so thinly veiled behind silliness.
Pardon me if saying ...
*It was like trying to talk to my mother who had a personality disorder...* YOU said it, I didn't, and you were bashing me and using your mother's illness to do it...YOU brought it up, I didn't, and why on earth would you do that? Why on earth would you post your former best friend is a schizophrenic, on a politics board? YOU did the disservice. YOU did the bashing, and YOU brought up the mental illness. Good grief. Get a grip!!
Pardon me, but there was hardly
any crossing the party lines from 2001 to 2006 when the repugnants soared the debt, the Terri Schiavo case was just insane and anti-constitutional, people suffering in the aftermath of Katrina, and on and on. So much for bipartisanship on the Repugnants side!
I beg your pardon, but as far as what
I have heard, President Obama has been tied up with celebrating Easter and naming the new WH puppy this weekend. He had little to nothing to do with freeing this man!
Even most liberals present thought it was poor taste.
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The present crisis was not caused by Bush or McCain...
both approached the Democrats a total of 4 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie regulated. We can't afford Reid, Pelosi, Dodd, Frank, AND a Democratic president. Whatever else Bush is or is not, he is NOT responsible for this current financial MESS.
Whoa, that is actually like a Christmas Present from the IRS, what an unheard of concept!!!....sm
True, you can do it yourself, the IRS just makes so daunting and intimidating with all those forms, and then you worry if you make another mistake, you will get another penalty.....Just those three letters together give most folk the heebie geebies.
Also, taling about not needing a service, most people do not know that you DO NOT need those miriad of services who will "talk down your credit bills" and renegotiate. Especially in these times, banks are very eager to get payment and work with you, most banks have a "hardship" department where you can talk to reps who can negotiate lower settlements, eliminate fees, figure out a very good payment plan without fees, etc. You can do it yourself without paying a debt relief service.
Is Newt your president? Lets stick with the present
There is about to be an explosion of spending and for those that really do work and think they won't be paying taxes, think again! You could only use half your brain or whatever is lucid and understand the ONLY way to pay for that kind of spending is by EVERYONE who works to pay taxes.
You really need to get off your one-party tunnel vision way of thinking, and I would say think like an individual, but I can see you are a follower of Obama, and as we all know, most of them have never thought for themselves.
I'm an independent......sure as heck didn't want a totalitarian government in power and if I had to choose between Newt and that backside kisser we have in office now, I'd choose Newt....
Too bad we're stuck with Obama and his crooked cronies!!
I feel it safe to say you have never had an independent thought in your life.....
I were you I would not call the present US president 'naive and stupid.' nm
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I like it here. Besides, mostly all they discuss there is current events. Imagine that. nm
Well, by all means lets discuss pertinent
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Of course, because it takes high thinking to discuss
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Why don't we discuss the Republican candidates for a change?
This is just like a dog chasing his tail! 
Pardon ME?! Who ever said I was a conservative? sm
Why would you assume so very much. There were a lot of posts pro and con by veterans. The post I quoted was one that struck me because I was born and raised in Oklahoma and it was a soldier from Oklahoma. My goodness, what a huge brouhaha over one simple little post. Well, I certainly won't post here again.
Pardon me, but this is ABSURD! sm
Not only absurd, but you have ASSUMED that I am a Christian. How dare you? I mean, really! You make a lot of assumptions, accused me above of saying things I did not say and then have the NERVE to say this. News flash, gt. ALL of the MSM comment and prophecy about Israel HOURLY and a lot of them are not Jewish. Scholars who study Israel are not all Jewish. I think this is the most bizarre thing I have ever read.
Pardon me but that's not quite true
Not really bashing on the con board. Just folks calling others yucky and then being sarcastically and cruelly chided because that's the best they can do as far as the nasty insults. What started it was someone calling it the Brunson board. Excuse me, but doesn't really qualify as a nasty insult. Check it out.
Pardon me if I do not think this is a victory for anyone. nm
Pardon me, Teddy....
but just because someone posts here what they do, does not mean they do it. And if I do not choose to blow my own horn and brag about all the wonderful things I do, please do not interpret that to mean that I do not do something. I am retired and therefore can no longer serve, that does not mean I have never served or if I was able to serve I would not be right there. Please do not preach to me about involvement. And please to answer my question. Why do you not take this peacenik talk to the people who threaten the peace? Unless of course you are a terrorist apologist who thinks the United States is the big bad wolf who causes all the problems. If you believe that, then you should be on the first plane out.
Last time I looked, I and no other American had flown a plane into a building and killed 3000 people in one day. Last time I looked, I or any other American had not bombed embassies, bombed the Cole, downed the plane over Lockerbie, bombed the World Trade Center the first time...you are sooo typical of the angry liberal...and so typical...*my boyfriend says* *Michael Moore says* *Lurker says* Have you ever, my friend, had an independent thought while your butt is sitting there comfy in in YOUR chair??
And please to do the research...there are a great many in Congress who have children serving right now. I know people personally who are serving right now or have children serving right now. You might want to jump back down off that high horse and check out your rancid statements.
As long as we are on butts...you make mine hurt.
Have a good day!!
Pardon me for disrespecting
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pardon me but, what are you talking about? what has that to do with
this particular post? We get it you are in love with SP, we hear it loud and clear, but, again, what has that got to do with the interview where someone posted perfectly legit post?
Pardon my faux pas........... sm
that belongs in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution.
But it makes my argument no less valid.
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