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Well I really didn't think it was a huge deal

Posted By: sm on 2009-02-14
In Reply to: What's a matter, did I hit a nerve? - Running on MT

and you are the only person who freaked out about it.  Give it a rest!


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Why such a huge deal made about the auto LOAN
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Huge, HUGE difference.
I'd be saving a lot of money. 
and came in with a huge surplus!

Huge mistake
I have been banned from this board a long time, and finally they let me back in.  There is a post from this Nan person, a cartoon justifying it as filbustering T. Kennedy; when in essence it makes a mockery out of thousands of Americans, and even more Iraq's lives lost.  I did go on the wrong board, I did not intend to, honestly.  I have not been on this board for more than 4 months until last night; and I can understand the moderator's decision to change it; but I really did not know.  Who is this Nan person?  She must be a moderator because if you challenge her with the truth one iota, your posts are deleted.  Again, the moderators have allowed me to get away with a lot.  I do understand their decision to split it into conservatives and liberals; and I have no excuse, I have had an extremly stressful week, went on there to express my opinion and my posts were deleted, I simply went on the wrong board and once again was called a troll.  Anyone who disagrees with this Nan person is accused of being a troll. 
It was a huge failing. sm
And you are right, genocide has occured through many presidencies.  It occurred in Iraq to the tune of Millions.  But no one talks about that.  So which genocide do we choose?  Are some politically correct and some not?  Just wondering.
Another huge concern........
Where is all the money coming from being donated to Obama's campaign.  They are using fake names.   Why?  Now, most common sense folks will know why if we don't want to deceive ourselves.  No doubt Muslim organizations, corrupt groups, terrorists related groups.....you name it.  See how well that never gets reported on most of your news channels.  FOX has tried and is bringing it up again but try to get others, with the exception of Lou Dobbs, who will call a spade a spade....and please don't get racial with me.....you know what I mean. 
A huge list.....
of wars in the name of God just came to mind....Hmmmm.
these are huge churches
As you may remember, I am a Jew, but these Christian Churches listed are pretty large denominations:

UMC - 12 million worldwide members, 8 million in the U.S.
PC-USA - 2.2 million
Episcopalian - 2.2 million
American Baptist - 1.4 million
UCC - 1.2

The above are just some of the member churches. Are all of these denominations full of false prophets or reading a different bible?

I'm not trying to be difficult, I just find it very interesting

There is a huge difference.......... sm
between an MT who might be fortunate enough to make $20 an hour, which could be considered a livable wage, and a UAW making about $40 an hour without benefits. And no, I'm not one of the fortunate ones, but if I were and that were in the offing, then I would likely start looking into retraining for another line of work. Be that as it may, MTs are paid less than slave wages now, or hadn't you noticed before you retired?

The UAW taking a cut in pay is not in order for money to "go to the coffers of the CEOs." The CEOs are supposed to take pay cuts as well and at least 2 of them are working for $1 a year, aren't they? This is about saving the industry, but I doubt this bailout will do that. Come March, I fully expect that nothing will have changed and they will want more money and/or time. Will be interesting to see what happens then.
Oklahoma alone has a huge oil supply. sm
When I worked at the University, I was told there was so much oil in capped off tanks, it would astound the populance to know how much.  The oil is here. 
gt you just made a huge mistake. sm
You have no idea what my religion is.  I would never make an assumption like this.  This one statement of your's and the other person who called me a Xtian (too darn lazy to type out Christian) reveals the true inner workings of the leftist mine.  If you are not with me, you are against me.  That's your motto and no one could possibly be as well-informed as you.  Why, if I were to take some of your bizzare sayings, i.e., burning in hell and such, I might think you are a satanist.  Are you?  Can't prove it by me.   Amazing.
Wow...that is huge for a "small" message...
and what possible "context" could change the meaning of those quotes? I invite you to elaborate on that. They said it, they meant it. And if you will read up on it, it WAS the intelligence gathered by the Clinton administration that Bush used. The SAME men were advising him who advised Clinton (Clarke and Tenet). I still say that was his BIGGEST mistake (keeping them). Nice try at a smoke screen, but the fact remains...if the intelligence was lies, they are ALL lying. Not JUST Bush. The Iraq Liberation Act came under the Clinton administration...not the Bush administration. Crafted by Democrats, endorsed enthusiastically by Democrats. I would believe all that before I would believe the claims of one man and one book that is being quoted ad nauseam. the fact that it is accepted as "fact" (I would imagine it is listed as "fiction" in book stores) in the face of all this historical data (you can't argue with the Library of Congress, and a person's own eyes and ears regarding those quotes).

I REPEAT...over 50% of individuals polled say they are against abortion. In a democracy (NOT THEOCRACY) majority is supposed to rule. THAT is also constitutional. But I guess that escapes some delusional zealots who want to impose their lack of morality on the rest of us?? (to use your words) There is no need to be hateful about this.

Can't believe you use the term "over a lots of dead bodies." Why is it more horrific that a woman would die from a botched abortion than the millions of bodies of aborted children that pile up year after year? What is even remotely moral about that? How someone can defend that in the name of choice...defies any morality.

And to set the record straight...not everyone who is against abortion is against it on religious grounds. They are against it on MORAL grounds. You don't have to be religious to have morality. There are several folks who identify themselves as "true" liberals and say that if you oppose war, oppose the death penality, on the basis of loss of life that it is inconsistent to be pro abortion. And I would agree, that based on everything I have read about the liberal philosophy, it is inconsistent with being pro abortion. But I guess some "liberals" pick and choose what life is worth saving. There's that choice thing again.

How can it be right to give one person (the mother) choice over the life of another (the child)? And why is that choice only good before the baby takes a breath, and afterward it becomes murder? That is about as inconsistent as it gets.

The challenges have failed because there have remained enough liberal judges in the court to keep from a majority. That is why it has failed. Why won't Congress just take it up and pass an abortion law (a REAL law)...why did they never do that in all the years abortion was illegal? Ask yourself THAT question.
Our next President WILL be a huge factor
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We've had HUGE government

over the last eight years, up through and including the purchase of BANKS.


Why is it that we can find money for wars and thieving corporations, but one PENNY designed to help American citizens is viewed as evil?  Why is the thought of rebuilding our crumbling infrastructures such a bad thing, considering it will require WORKERS to do that and will bring JOBS with it?


Why is it okay for Bush to care so much about the Iraqi people he bombed that he included comprehensive and universal healthcare as part of his Iraq war budget, yet the mere mention of helping almost 50 million people acquire healthcare just terrible?


All that's just fine and dandy, but dare to mention one thing to help Americans get by in a bad economy is suddenly "big government"?


Bush only cared about corporate welfare and is supported.  Obama cares about people and is trashed.  For the life of me, I don't understand that way of thinking.  


P.S.  Who do you think will ultimately pay for all the things I mentioned above -- the things that Bush placed on the world's "credit card?"


This is not social programs......this is HUGE government
!!
And now we have a huge trade imbalance with china..
because China has bought up all of our securities in the form of loans. That's why kids toys are full of lead. If you're smart, you will check the labels on ALL products you buy. Did you know that in China they string their chicken coops over shrimp ponds? The chicken feed is supplemented with shavings, dust, particles from plastics and fiberglass plants (to save money) and the chicken droppings are what the shrimp feed on. Crest toothpaste is made in Mexico. Hepatitis A outbreaks came from Mexico. Dollar store brands? Check the labels on vitamins, aspirin, EVERYTHING (China - they put ANYTHING in their products). Even Birdseye frozen vegetables are grown and packaged in Mexico. The only store I have found that the labels inevitably say: Grown and manufactured in the USA is SAVE-A-LOT!!! What happened to the FDA? Remember when Bush said we couldn't buy our medications from Canada? Guess who is making most of our meds now................
It would just create a huge black market, and

Trusting Obama's character. That is a huge problem
nm
I feel no hope, but a huge depression coming.
it is going to be a long, crazy, up and down, scary ride.  I do not see any hope, but failure for this country.  Will NEVER be the same.  You all who wanted change are going to get it.  I am not sure what change the O keeps talking about, but it does not sound good to me at all.  I want to have hope, but I cannot stand who the O picked for Chief of Staff.  Hiliary Clinton stated yesterday, IN HER OWN WORDS, were not good about him at all.  The only vocabulary that he has coming out of his mouth is 4-letter words.  He is nothing but a JERK.  So I guess that means we all can act like Rahm Emanuel and maybe we all can get somewhere in life?  I do not think so, but that is who the O picked.  I guess I should read DickMorris' book when he worked with President Clinton and Rhambo who is not very trusthworthy individual.  It seems to me is psycho.  Starting to stock up on paper products, toilet paper, paper towels and even tampons since paper products were hard to find during the depression.  If the car companies do not get bailed out, look out country.   I do have mixed feelings about bailing out car companies though.  I wish we could, but then it will be bailing them out for the next 2 years and then next in line will be airline companies.  WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THIS.
The huge emphasis on tomorrow is in direct proportion to
Finally. A President we can all be PROUD of, instead of hide-your-head-in-a-bag EMBARRASSED.
R U kiddding? We need all the help we can muster filling up and bridging the huge hungry abyss that
and cronies left behind!!! Every hear you have to invest money to make money? It is not the perfect answer, nothing is, and it will now work magic right away, but we have hope of long-term, sustained growth of jobs through spending for infrastructure jobs, construction, renovation, improvements, and while it will take much time for all of this to get the poor Bushwacked economy going again, we need to help out struggling families without jobs, we need the money for social programs that will feed the poor and indigent in the meantime, we need to get our IGNORED school systems to achieve once again, we are well behind most of the European and Asian nations, educate your children well, invest in their minds and futures, invest in good teachers and technology, and the economy will slowly reap the benefits of all this, too, for future generations. Hey, I am sorry that Bush wrecked the economy with his multi-trillion $$$ war, which is still looking a lot like Viet Nam, and his failed trickle-down economics and cronyism, but at least the President is trying, he is trying to listen, he has taken out a few of the big red flags that so many thought wrong and wasteful(and I agree, by the way), but now he is at least rolling up his sleeves and concentrating.

I hear so much criticism here....is there ANYONE on this earth who is willing to take this on and has a better proposal that not only will get us going again, but will provide this nation with what it needs to keep growing on a steady pace, put people back to work, get our GIP up again, give a hand to starving homeless and sick people, lift up our decomposing educational system, while trying to be bi-partisan????????????
But doesn't shale oil extraction use huge amounts of ground water? sm
I've heard there are enviromental issues that we haven't really delved into yet, such as contamination of your drinking water if you're on a well.
Nancy Pelosi has become a huge embarrassment and detriment to the Dem party, IMHO......nm
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The deal is
just like the war, embryonic stell research has been so politicized that any kind of logical even-minded interpretation has flown right out the window. 
I think it is a very big deal -
I don't think it would be a very big deal at all if she were the one paying for it and not the RNC - I don't think that clothes and makeup and haircuts is where most people think their donations are going when they donate their money...

and I don't think it sends a very good message at this time when people are trying to figure out how to buy gas and food and pay their utilities that they are paying $150,000 a month for clothes for her to wear..

and they will be donated to charitable causes? Give me a break!
Here's the deal...sm

1.  What makes it so profitable for foreign oil companies is the tax cuts provided to them by our government.  I won't even bother arguing who did that as its pretty obvious.


2.  The US Department of Energy last time I checked was a page or two before the "funnies."


3. Within the same time (or probably less) that we could drill for more oil here in the US (which wouldn't even come close to producing the quantity we use, and would not stand a chance on the market due to taxes that are already in place) we could implement other sources of energy.  In the course of this we would be providing renewable energy, decrease the horrific environmental impact on the environment, and create new jobs. 


I also think this was a done deal
before the DNC. Remember how pelosi said SHE would take care of it (meaning the nominee) before the DNC? I had the feeling when HC conceded, it was because she was made a sweet deal by somebody.
OK, hon, this is the deal.
Hitler was an anti-Semite, granted. Using his Holocaust against the Jews as a historical parallel to illustrate the Palestinian Holocaust is not.

I do not wish to waste my time beating this dead horse with you, especially since your entire argument is founded on a false premise (a kind reference to what, in fact, is a filthy lie that seeks to dehumanize and trivialize genocidal slaughter). As long as you dismiss the occupation and "myth" and try to present a case that rewrites a distorted and warped history by assuming an exclusionary myopic perspective based on such an outrage (occupation denial), nothing you have to say holds any credibility and merits no further consideration or comment.

As long as the Israel perpetuates its own myth-based myth and believes it can justify state-sponsored terrorist apartheid occupation, it will doom itself to living in a parallel universe as a hated global pariah and its population will never see a moment of real peace or security.

that was quite a deal, eh? sm

Being conservative and pro-life (and never having given birth to boot), "freedom of speech" is something I want to see more often--certainly more than "racist!"  Talk about an over-played, lame-@ss word, ya know?


My only take on it is that, like Savage says, "I leave vengeance to God."  But you certainly have every right to say whatever you want, and I'm glad you said it without apology. 


What really ticked me off was when Greg Jarrett on Fox used the term for pro-lifers as "extremists."  Excuse me?  I have every right to be pro-life and hold anyone I elect to that same mindset.  So that makes me an extremist?  It escapes me if I'm also considered a religious extremist.


That frosts me far more than about any of the lame remarks like GJs, etc.


Here's the deal about prejudice. sm
Prejudice is prejudice.  I don't differentiate prejudice against overweight people any differently than I do prejudice for race.  The left seems to be able to do that with no problem.  Why, you would think they are all slender and well groomed.  However, the presence in their midst of people like Ted Kennedy, Jerry Nadler, Barney Franks, Linda Ronstadt, etc., etc., would prove differently. 
it's politics. deal with it.

Wow, that sure got your panties all in a wad, now didn't it. 


Wonder why    ?


Gotta deal
It is time for her to put on her big girl panties and face 'em head on. Politicians get bashed. They get bashed before they are elected and after they are elected. If she can't deal with them now, how the heck is she going to do it as the VP or possibly the Pres?

I think she can handle herself, but who knows if we will ever find out.
I think the debate is a big deal
One of these guys is going to be elected president in the next 41 days. I want to hear them debate. This crisis is not going to get worse because a few hours are spent on a debate.
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The reason it has become a big deal . . .
this is a woman who is almost single handedly dividing this country into pro-American and anti-American.  (Can you say McCarthyism?)She who claims to be so patriotic and pro-America.  If she is so gosh-darned American, than why isn't she buying her clothes at Wal-Mart?  Can't get much more American than that!  She actually sees herself as some sort of grand presevationist of the great American ideal -- bullhockey!.  She is nothing but a power-crazed, hypocritical megalomaniac.  She gives us legitimate women a bad name and I am ashamed to share gender with her!
Sorry you have to deal with so many cooks
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They sure won't be able to deal with it if he loses.

A $2M victory party already.  If he loses what will he do?  Many news casters both left and right say he should not be so bold to think he already has won.  Nov 4th has not arrived yet.  I'm hearing more and more democrats are voting for McCain.  Polls are neck in neck (even though they don't mean squat), but they are all over the place.  And we do have to factor in the 11% who are undecided.  And factor in the people who are too afraid to publicly state they are not for Obama, yet when election time comes they feel more comfortable having someone in who has experience and knows what they are doing.  So what's going to happen if they do lose.  It IS a possibility after all.  Even Michelle Obama at a rally said do not listen to the polls it is a close race.


I don't think for one second that there will be riots.  I think that is a scare tactic being used by Obama supporters to put fear in Americans. "Vote for Obama or we'll riot".  Pulleese.  I know that if Obama wins there are a lot on the other side who will say the same.  Illegal elections, votes stolen, it goes both ways.


So, I just sit back, hope the next 9 days go by fast and will wait until late 11/4 or 11/5 if it takes that long to see who won. 


If Obama wins I will come back on the board and say "congratulations" but if he loses I will say "I told you so".  It's at the time when people get too cockie that things don't work out the way they hope them to.


Of course you don't understand the big deal.
You could have written the scripts. A lot of it is identical to what you post on this forum.
Was a deal made??? probably. sm
And no matter what deal was made or how or by who, bottom line is that the American people are going to get the brown end of the stick....AGAIN.
I have an awesome deal right now too (sm)

My husband is a firefighter so we have insurance through the city (BC/BS).  That's a relief all by itself!  However, the city has gone one step further for its employees.  They provide FOR FREE a clinic where you can go for the small stuff (cuts, colds, UTIs, etc).  They also provide city employees with FREE medicine so long as they carry it.  It has to be generic, but it's such a huge help.  What this service provides us:  For me:  lipid-lowering agent, happy pills, sleeping pills, and PPI.  For my husband:  Blood pressure medication and PPI.


They did this because it is actually cheaper for them in the long run to provide this service to their employees with health maintenance drugs, thereby reducing the added cost to the insurance from people not being able to afford this medication and ending up in the hospital which in the long run increases the cost of insurance.  I just hope they can continue to do this.


Geesh what is your deal?
I am laughing at this!  Out of all the nasty, mean, down right horrible posts on this board, you pick this one to get  your panties in a wad about?  I dont get it?  Abc posted that she could kill her baby in her tummy which is here opinion but what about that?  why not be upset over that?  is that cuz you agree with abortion and that is okay?  you're like on a witch hunt or something.
The only ones making a big deal are
the liberals trying to argue that everyone is prejudice against him and a racist. Conservatives and independents could care less. Conservatives and independents try to argue about issues. The liberals (most but not all) are the ones who turn it into a race issue.

We all know he's half white/half black and I think the one making the biggest deal out of him being the first black is he himself.
big flippin deal

Desperately grasping at straws to stir up some kind of controversy. 


 


no, here is the deal, the question was
did he give her a chance to answer the question or not? Yes he did. And since she did not, he looked it up for himself and gave us the the answer on tonight's show. She said her way of defending Sarah was by calling Bill-O a sexist during the campaign. SAY WHAT, how is that defending anyone?
Yes, I truly think we will get a worse deal...

...with universal healthcare than we have now.  If you want to screw something up royally, give it to the gummint to run. 


Good lord!  Look at Canada or the UK, who have socialized medicine.  You go into a Canadian clinic.  It's a walk-in system. They don't make appointments.  You take a number, which is 51.  Number fifty is called.  Then it's quitting time.  You get sent home to come back another day and try your luck again.  Need an MRI?  Take a number.  We'lll call you in 4-6 months - or you could go to the US for it.  Need bypass surgery?  We'll see about that.   


It will become a triage system:  You, sir, are 60 years old and overweight.  Your cholesterol is too high.  Why should we waste our precious resources on you when younger and more viable specimens are stacking up outside?  No, you may not have an angioplasty - at least not this decade.  NEXT! 


Socialized medicine is a pretty good deal if you're young and don't need a lot of services - not so very good when you reach an age when you actually do need them.


 


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what is the deal with the mob mentality...
is this gang up on old men day? And I say this with the utmost respect because I, for one, really like old men! Do you people have so little to say to actually bolster you stance on issues that all you can do to feel better is pick on one particular poster? Well, here you go--pick on me, too, if it will make you feel better about yourselves. I can, as I am sure TechSupport can, take it.
I just got my Dell, what a deal that was!
I have had Dells in the past, would have gone with them last year but I knew they had Vista, could not use with my platform and just recently learned you could still, for a price, have XP put on. Back to my story. Had always had really good machines from there, had put up with the language before, not as bad in years past like now. I got passed from pillar to post and back again ordering. I spoke with 1 person, completely unable to talk with them and told them I have to listen to different dialects each day in my job, not when I am ordering and told them wanted to speak to someone I can understand. I am older and don’t have time to play around. I placed order, delivery delayed and delayed and delayed. I thought it would never get here. Another delay and I was cancelling my order and it just showed up 1 day. I hope to get really good service, not from them because that just does not happen now, but from the machine itself. That was a chore to have to go through that and should never be that way. I was told about the delay that Dell could not get the parts needed for the computer??
No big deal. Everyone makes mistakes.
It's easy to do on this board sometimes.
I don't think the phone call to CBS was a big deal....sm
This call has nothing to do with politics but more of a favor to a friend. He used his influence to help a friend out. Looks like CBS owed him the money anyway. Friends help each other out this way all the time, no harm done IMHO.

Travelgate is a different story. Firing the people for not reason to appoint friends is cronyism.
Obama is the real deal! lol
I've watched every debate in the primaries and in the champaign, every interview on CNN, watched the interview after interview and heard from so many polical analysts most than I ever have in my life about an election this year. I have always been a Rep from the day I was born 46 years ago, but this is the first time in my life I am voting Dem for Obama. There is no question he is going to make more of a difference, and just maybe, our jobs could be saved and not outsourced by his tax break to companies who DO NOT outsource! Obama 08! =)
Here's the deal. This kind of rhetoric is exactly
and does absolutely nothing to advance the cause of your broken down party and the dirth of leadership you are currently experiencing. This kind of disconnect between your party and the rest of us is exactly what you should be spending your time trying to come to terms with.

Being a democrat, it is fine with me if you persist along these lines, since it would serve to ensure similar election results next time around, but for your own sakes, you guys really do need to GET A GRIP.