We live in a culture where evil is good and
Posted By: Aunt Louise on 2009-03-27
In Reply to: I just don't get this. - Trigger Happy
good is evil. No wonder God's judgment is upon our nation.
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Evil is as evil does. You can't hide evil. Nope. nm
This Bush is evil Cheney is evil garbage.
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Good for you...Where you live that is...nm
So you must live in one of the good
Good thing we live in a Republic
and not a democracy
I'd say Israel has good reason to live in fear
If you think what has been going on in Israel for years and years is perception and not a reality then you've obviously not been to or even read about Israel.
good-evil, white cowboy hat black cowboy hat
Wouldnt it be great if the world was black-white, good-evil..Gee, life would be so simple. The good guys could wear the white cowboy hat, the bad guys the black one. I ache for simpler times, like...maybe the 1990s, when we werent the biggest terrorist country on the earth with the number one terrorist sitting in the White House and the world still respected America.
A culture of Pharisees.
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views05/0215-21.htm
Southern culture
I have never had a stranger call me dear, not common in the north I suppose.
Yes, it has been debated, seems like most of my college history courses were spent debating this, as well as other internet sites. Whether or not it has ever been debated here, I have no idea.
As far as who is responsible for the deaths in Vietnam, I certainly have a different opinion, but I won't go in to it here, as I was talking about Iraq.
So again, please don't put words into my mouth (which you seem to do a lot) or assume you know how I feel. Any death, of any person bothers me tremendously. My father and father-in-law served in Vietnam and lost many friends and family members. Of course it means something to me.
Just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I don't care. I am a little sick of your assumptions here. You have already done this a couple of times today.
It all depends upon the culture.
The hand-holding custom among Arab men as they walk does not signify that they are on a 'date' but is a symbol of mutual respect and/or friendship.
As far as greetings go, a handshake with direct eye contact is becoming more acceptable, but some ethnic customs do persist. The European double-air-kiss is a greeting between equals (and pretentious New Yorkers). Among Japanese the relative depth of bows acknowledges who has the superior rank, but both bow. Bowing of one Arab to another or one European to another (not to be confused with a smart click of the heels and bob of the head, a sort of antiquated European salute) is a sign of subjugation. I am acknowledging you as my superior in rank. I am your humble subject.
There was only one guy bowing. It was our president, and his upper body was nearly horizontal to the ground, far lower than shaking hands with a shorter man would seem to require. I don't mind if Obama thinks he needs to appear friendly, I just don't want him acknowledging subservience.
I will be so glad when the culture wars are over
Self-rightous yuppies craming their radical ideas down everyone's throat. Church law versus the bible. They make this stuff up as they go along.
Why should he dignify McC camp culture war slurs
He's no different than any other dem....off to greener pastures in search of triple digit IQs.
Any of you live in the midwest? Just in case you live down the road from me...
I live in Wisconsin and am often also in Minnesota.
No, I'm not a stalker or a weirdo (my opinion, anyway).
Yeah, tell me again how liberals want to live and let live....what a joke!!!! nm
why not just tell the truth? That only extends to liberals.*I have had it with Republicans...* a whole group of people tossed out like garbage. *I will not respond to your posts nor read them.*
As to Ann Coulter...the left has their share..Michael Moore, AL Franken...do you ever look at your own party?
That is the most INtolerant post I have seen here in a LONG time.
Liberals true colors always come out...regardless of how much they say they are the MOST tolerant, and want EVERYone to live and let live...everyone if you happen to be liberal.
We are all Americans...and America is about debate. Tell me, liberal Democrat, again how you care about ALL Americans. Talk about ringing hollow.
Lying and the Culture of Life. What Moral Values by Junaid Alam...sm
Lying and the Culture of Life
What Moral Values?
By M. JUNAID ALAM
Strong moral values, decency, propriety, and honesty: conservatives long ago declared these ideals essential to their belief system, achieving political ascendancy with promises of restoring honor to a government they view as tainted by liberal immorality and excess.
A fine notion, indeed, but one question lingers: what happened?
Barely a year into Bush's second term, the American political landscape is brimming with blatant examples of conservative deceit, dishonesty, cronyism, and hypocrisy.
Foremost among these examples is Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's right-hand man, who has been indicted on charges of perjury, obstruction of justice, and making false statements before a grand jury. Not that this is cause for embarrassment among conservatives--indeed, many are relieved, pointing out that Libby is in trouble only for lying. It seems conservative standards on morality have slipped a bit.
Of course, the Libby indictment is but the tip of the beast's horn. The larger case is about a vengeful administration that was bent on destroying an undercover CIA agent's career by leaking her name because her husband, Joseph Wilson, also a CIA agent, challenged shoddy evidence buttressing the case for war in Iraq.
Let us forget for a moment the value of simple honesty. Let us forget also the importance of not undermining the nation's intelligence services when one's entire platform is national security.
What does this event tell us about the oft-invoked conservative call to respect the culture of life, so often invoked in abortion debates? Let us not pander to fools: this war was, beyond a shadow of a doubt, based on manifest lies and exaggerations. Therefore, can anyone seriously claim that this administration showed even the slightest respect for the lives of the 2,000 American soldiers, or the lives countless Iraqi civilians now lost to the war's horrors? Most intriguing, then, is this culture of life--a culture which champions life when it does not yet exist, and abandons it when it does.
Surely, however, could the Republican Party not redeem itself through its philosophy of Christian compassion? Apparently not. Congressional testimony two weeks ago revealed that when FEMA's sole representative in New Orleans--who was there only accidentally--found thousands of Americans stranded without food or shelter during the hurricane, he issued a desperate call for help to FEMA chief Michael Brown. Brown's aide replied--several hours later--with the following instructive example of compassionate conservatism in action: It is very important that time is allowed for Mr. Brown to eat dinner. The locale of choice? Baton Rouge. Marie Antoinette would have been impressed.
Equally impressive is the Republican Party's idea of taking responsibility and not blaming others--a key conservative tenet--in the case of Tom Delay, the House majority leader indicted for pouring corporate money into Texas' 2002 state elections, which saw the reconfiguration of the state's congressional districts along even more pro-Republican lines. Censured three times in 2004 alone by the bipartisan House Ethics Committee, Delay nonetheless views the indictment as a kind of vast left-wing conspiracy, calling the prosecutor an unabashed partisan zealot. Heaven forbid.
It goes without saying that Republican contrition for any of the outrages outlined above is unlikely: the arsonists are running the firehouse, and they take great pride in fanning the flames.
We would be sorely remiss, however, if we ignored the role of the Democrats in this affair. They have sat on their firehoses and idled their fire engines on key issues, enabling Republican misbehavior to go unchecked. Most Democrats, it must be remembered, voted in favor of granting Bush unprecedented war powers. And it was the liberal New York Times, with its neo-con pseudo-journalist Judith Miller at the helm, who led the drumbeat procession to invade Iraq based on the thinnest of lies.
Naïve liberal Democrats were also quite pleased to see conservatives break ranks during the Harriet Miers debacle, taking it as a sign of some kind of impending right-wing implosion. They apparently forgot the basic fact that it was the far right--not what passes for the left--that tore apart Miers' chances for judicial confirmation. Now, a staunch conservative, Alito, has been nominated and the implosion has disappeared into thin air. As usual, we can soon count on the usual centrist Democrats--those Klan-minus-costume-crats and heirs to the Dixiecrat legacy--to help vote Alito onto the bench.
Thus, while conservative wrongdoing is obvious, liberals must take a long, hard look at their own party's role in producing the present state of affairs. Americans are told, after all, that there are two major parties, and that one is supposed to act in opposition to the other.
A fine notion, indeed, but one question lingers: what happened?
M. Junaid Alam, co-editor of Left Hook, can be reached at alam@lefthook.org
President Obama=bigger taxes, bigger government, and a profound change in society and culture
Evil...........
Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.
Romans 12:9
never said rich were evil
I never said the rich were evil. I said there are many who dont care about the working class and yet you defend them. As an example, I just read a news article earlier this week that Dr. Phil pays his transcriptionists $7.00 to $8.00 an hour!!!!!!!!! Have you ever seen Dr. Phil's house in LA? I have passed it a few times..OMG!!!! Let me tell ya, the guy can afford to pay his transcriptionists better than that. If it wasnt for Oprah, he would still be working in Texas and not a celebrity but does it even make him realize, hey, I got a stroke of good luck thanks to Oprah, maybe I should take care of my staff better. Obviously he is one of the rich who does not get it. Sure there are some who care and give back, as they realize how lucky they are and there but for the grace of God go I. I have seen personally some rich give back greatly, some volunteering at jobs every one else would be paid for, giving to charities and so much more. The good ones realize they must give back, cause that is just the way it should be in a moral caring upright society. The others, they cant get enough money. Their religion is money. The more millions they have, they are worrying about how to make millions more.
Yes, the brain is evil.
I don't know what else you could call it. Just the fact that Bush relies on a man with Rove's kind of history says all there is to say about this administration - the addition of the rest of the Nixon-era chickenhawks is icing on that sh**cake. It's creepy beyond belief how some Bush supporters actually applaud that kind of dirty business and call it political saavy. Let's call it what it really is - just plain amoral and reprehensible sociopathic behavior.
The notion of evil
Sometimes evil comes in many forms - not always neatly packaged in the guise of someone of middle-eastern descent. Sometimes evil is found in people who refuse to find alternative solutions to the human conflict other than killing....
Because I feel war/killing needs to be a last resort does not mean I do not not stand up for myself or my family. It also does not mean I am pro-terrorist. This is a childish, ignorant notion that I see the right perpetuating repeatedly. Not that the left is perfect, by any means!
Evil THEYs they? There you going being
all ubiquitous again! Touche.
They are NOT Christians......they are evil
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OMG, that's too funny, do you see in everything something evil?..nm
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Yep. Democrats are evil.
Only 17 more days, and the evil
*Evil* is also Hitler....(sm)
you should do a comparison between Hitler and Bush. Just Google it.
And evil is joking about the WMD
not being found as in this video which can be googled called Bush Joke Video: DC Humor in Bad Taste. He was so "funny" as he joked about no WMD found, and I remember this being said at a dinner around March 2003, and NO ONE called attention to it!!! People are dying, and he's making a "joke" as they're dying. Evil and vile. This man ought to be made responsible for his war crimes, and in no way should walk away from DC being able to rewrite his history, and at this point, I cannot understand why any thinking, compassionate person would defend him.
I fall in to the you lefties are evil
Yes, God deliver us from the evil Kool-Aid
No, it's not an evil agenda...I agree...sm
And in a perfect world America would be 100% Christian and we all would believe and think the same way, but we don't. Along with bringing their faith, our leaders have to bring the wisdom on how to be a leader for 100% of the people, and that includes the 49% that didn't vote for him.
She's trying to save us from our evil ways
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We are all evil to fear mongers!
Hey fear mongers...Boo!
we're so evil and jealous . . .
and can't even make a witty remark.
Oh come on! Republicans are not evil people
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3rd arm of Axis of Evil trumps W with
It just seems to me like W has served another 4-year term since Nov 4. Hope CNN's 3-day lead into inauguration day makes this time pass quickly.
Maybe Laura's next children's book should be entitled Bozo Goes Bye-Bye.
No, necessary evil is just a term used to excuse
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Epitome of evil? Are you an Iraqui or sm
Iranian terrorist or something? That is the stuff they spew out to their brain-washed listeners. I don't know about Obama's evil factor, but he sure as heck doesn't know what he is doing...........except "pick the money off the money tree" and pass it around!
Yikes!! Another evil plan!!!!
Christians are just as evil as Muslims.
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Sho you right. Not enough room in society for evil perverts.
Keep it coming, you make plenty sense. I enjoy your posts so much :):)
New Evil Hippie Spitter Legend
Article about the guy who got spat on at the peace demonstration.
http://thepeacetrain.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=216
Being an objective observer, the repugnants appear to be the most evil.
Defend the republican party all you want with your self-righteousness, but in the end the republican party will always be a party that represents big business and the rich.
You religious right wingers, rednecks who were undereducated and/or raised by a long line of redneckers will never get it so I won't even address you as your perception of reality is hopelessly distorted.
However, I will say that, anyone who makes under 250 grand a year and who votes for the republican tick is a fool.
This next presidential term will all be about taxes now that Georgie has sold out the country to foreign lands to pay for his war and cover his tax cuts to the wealthy, and someone's taxes are going to be raised and if you vote republican and earn less than 250 grand, it will be YOURS.
Funding under republicans will also be cut to social services and that means more crime, and if your town is like mine, police and fire departments are laying off due to budget cuts - hey, what an oxymoron, cutting police forces while fighting terrorism.
Republicans are not for the people whatever you say. They pander to the religious right and those high school drop out rednecks for the votes. Abortion is and always will happen as it has since the beginning of time and I don't think you will ever stop it from happening. You can try to romanticize reproduction all you want but in this world, as we watch babies starving, dying from curable disease and, even raped, it just doesn't hold water.
Republicans are as evil as greed is evil.
Your arguments are weak as always.
Evil is arming Saddam and backing a war against
an enemy (in this case Khomeini's new Islamic regime) without understanding what you are doing or giving a rip about the consequences. Evil is turning around when you have no more use for the spent puppet because he went all rogue on you, assumed his own power and had the gall to defy you by controlling his own resources and proceeding to launch into impotent attempt to weaken his standing and power and bring him down, as though you are the king of the universe. Having failed that, evil is building a case for war based on lies (with the exception of the WMDs you had supplied him with 2 decades earlier), flaunting international protocol, lying to your own citizens and waging an imperial war because you do not have a clue how to solve your own problems without carnage and bloodshed. Evil is propping up a reviled, fascist apartheid state whose occupation of an entire indigenous people has been the root of the rise of the terrorism you so vehemently condemn. Evil is not being big enough to recognize your own weaknesses, take responsibility for your own screw-ups, turn a page and try other more peaceful and productive approaches to the mess you have created. Evil is manipulating your own citizens into believing your lies and propaganda for decades on end, claiming the moral high ground and turning a blind eye to the death, destruction, pain, suffering and humanitarian crises in a region you seek to control that has never and will never belong to you.
Oh, please read this, Evil Clinton and WMDs, what?..........sm
NAFTA was built upon a 1989 trade agreement between the United States and Canada that eliminated or reduced many tariffs between the two countries. NAFTA called for immediately eliminating duties on half of all U.S. goods shipped to Mexico and gradually phasing out other tariffs over a period of about 14 years. Restrictions were to be removed from many categories, including motor vehicles and automotive parts, computers, textiles, and agriculture. The treaty also protected intellectual property rights (patents, copyrights, and trademarks) and outlined the removal of restrictions on investment among the three countries. Provisions regarding worker and environmental protection were added later as a result of supplemental agreements signed in 1993.
In 1989 Gearge H.W. Bush was president, right???
The Congress of the United States narrowly approved NAFTA in November 1993, during the term of President Bill Clinton.
The most innovative yet controversial aspects of NAFTA are its environmental provisions, which are included in the agreement itself as well as in a separate Supplementary Agreement on the Environment. These provisions make NAFTA the most environmentally conscious trade agreement ever negotiated. The Supplementary Agreement established a Commission on Environmental Cooperation (CEC), composed of senior environmental officials from each North American country. All three countries are prohibited from relaxing their environmental regulations in order to attract additional investment, and both citizens and governments are permitted to file complaints with the commission if they believe that a country is not enforcing
Is that not a good thing? Was it perfect, no, we wanted to open free trade four our countries; unfortunately, the GREEDY CEOs took advantage by moving production facilities overseas. The same GREEDY guys with the Golden parachutes that have flourished over the past two terms (and yes, even before that, but banking deregulation had so much more to do with this).
As for the WMDs, we brought in NATO, we went in with bipartisan group, we search with a multi-national group, and found none. Okay, you can hyposthesize all you want about HIDING THEM in other countries, anyone get any proof of this at all over the past eight years????? They are not too easy to hide, by the way, and Iraq has many enemies. I think that was the biggest RED HERRING in history to get over there, give Halliburton Billions in contracts without bids, and preserve our oil interests. There are horrible dictators in other countries, N. Korea has been threatening, taunting, and postulating, even testing weapons,,,,are we going there next for more trillions????
George Bush = Epitome of Evil
You people voted in the decider, the dumbest, most self-serving president in history and you DARE cast stones at President Obama who hasn't even had a CHANCE yet.
That's rich!
Your are mistaking evil and kniving with intelligent
and calling Bush mentally retarded? Excuse me, are you a physician with years of experience to determine.
First this is an insult to special needs people.
Second Bush's IQ score is reported to be higher than Obama's. Might help to understand why he refuses to let his school grades out - he failed his classes.
I do not have evil thoughts. Satan exists whether you choose to
believe he does. Finally, the woman who prayed before she voted is not like me. She allowed herself to be deceived.
You know, it is not Unle Sam who is evil, I still love this country with my whole heart....sm
But the government has been looking the other way while the Wall Street Prirates and Mirauders were raping and pilaging everything they could find and having a grand old time doing it. We have a gorgeous country with so many assets, I have traveled all 50 states and the pure majesty in all areas is really humbling, and I thank God I was born in this country. We are all going to have to help each other out, pay attention to what our elected officials are doing, learn how to raise a giant stink when they are not listening to their constituents and home-base, have patience to think things through clearly...as so many of our leaders do not. Hey, anyone ready to storm the Bastille with pitchforks and torches????? Perhaps we should get out the guillotine on the W.H front lawn as a reminder of what happens when arrogance runs rough-shod over the "common" people who cannot even eat moldy bread, let alone "cake!" Off my soapbox now, hard day!
Yeah, we know JTBB. Bush=evil. O=saint.
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Do you honestly believe that a evil tyrant like Sadam Hussein would NOT have WMDs?
He used chemical warefare on the Kurds in the 1980s. They exist. They were well hidden and are probably now well hidden just across the border into Iraq or Syria. Stop kidding yourselves!
Evil constant attacks on Palin are about to bring the biggest backlash
I believe you may have cost yourselves the election with the horrendous extent this was taken to.
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