We are not funding an illegal immoral war...
Posted By: Observer on 2007-10-10
In Reply to: Um, why should we scary liberals move - Me
we are funding our troops in combat sent there by our duly elected Congress. There is nothing illegal about that. If you are suggesting we withdraw funding from our troops who are in combat, that is definitely UNpatriotic and I would venture to say borders on treason. And what a nice message to send to our men and women in harm's way..."you are dying for nothing in an illegal immoral war and you are taking money we could be using for extending entitlements higher up the income ladder." Yeah, that is patriotic. Oh yeah. Ask a soldier how patriotic that is. You, my friend, need to buy a vowel and get a clue yourself.
And please, stop with the name calling. Your post was was judgmental, so pot calling the kettle black there. The last 4 years you have had a Congress controlled by Democrats, so any "ruining" that has been done during this time certainly has had Dem help.
All of the front-running Dem candidates, Clinton, Obama and Edwards...all said at the New Hampshire debate they could not commit to having the troops out of Iraq by 2013, so for all their posturing, they are not going to end the war either.
Protest may be patriotic...so should be good taste and basic care about how men and women in harm's way perceive what they hear you say and do. But of course...you don't care about that...and to me that is the height of selfishness. It is more important for you to protest than it is to support men and women in combat. In what alternate reality can you find that patrotic?
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I don't know of any illegal immoral war
This war was approved by our own elected officials in the house and senate. I won't even start on the immoral part, because you really know that's bunk too.
If illegal, immoral war is genocide, then yes.
be escorted to France.
Obama receiving illegal funding.
http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/241ee34b-28b0-48cf-b533-53cfa4c1d213
Any one can be immoral
regardless of what they choose to call themselves-homosexual, heterosexual, Christian-but the fact remains that the homosexual act is sinful, not to mentions perverted and unhealthy. Age has nothing to do with this. Homosexuality has been sinful for eons and it always will be.
Any one can be immoral
regardless of what they choose to call themselves-homosexual, heterosexual, Christian-but the fact remains that the homosexual act is sinful, not to mention perverted and unhealthy. Age has nothing to do with this. Homosexuality has been sinful for eons and it always will be.
You believe it's immoral because...(sm)
of your faith, and that's fine. However, not everyone is of the same faith as you. Noone has said you can't say it's immoral. And no, it does not take away anything from you. Is your marriage any less of a marriage because 2 guys get married? The whole concept you are proposing is ridiculous.
That having been said, what I believe is immoral is one who would take away the rights of another simply on the basis of their religious beliefs. It would be like me telling you that you can't have lettuce on your sandwich because I don't like lettuce.
Yet many soldiers also call the war immoral and
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The hatred you've been spewing is immoral.
And where this funding coming from?
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Why should taxpayers be funding
any network? Just for the record.....it is O'Reilly.
Yep, and GW tried pulling funding because....
he was just a big scab on the asss of this country and was called on it.
UN: Israel's use of cluster bombs in Lebanon completely immoral
UN denounces Israel cluster bombs The UN's humanitarian chief has accused Israel of completely immoral use of cluster bombs in Lebanon.
UN clearance experts had so far found 100,000 unexploded cluster bomblets at 359 separate sites, Jan Egeland said.
Israel has repeated its previous insistence that munitions it uses in conflict comply with international law.
Earlier, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert rebuffed UN chief Kofi Annan's calls for a swift end to Israel's air and sea blockade of Lebanon.
After talks with Mr Annan, Mr Olmert said the siege would only be lifted once the ceasefire terms were fully implemented.
This included the release of two Israeli soldiers whose capture by Hezbollah militants sparked the conflict.
But a Lebanese Hezbollah cabinet minister said there would be no unconditional release of the soldiers - the pair would only be freed as a result of a prisoner exchange with Israel.
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Every day, people are maimed, wounded and killed by these weapons - it shouldn't have happened
Jan Egeland
UN humanitarian chief |
UN efforts to rid Lebanon of cluster bombs have been under way since the conflict ended. Earlier estimates from UN experts had suggested a total of about 100 cluster bomb sites.
Mr Egeland described the fresh statistics as shocking new information.
What's shocking and completely immoral is: 90% of the cluster bomb strikes occurred in the last 72 hours of the conflict, when we knew there would be a resolution, he said.
The UN ceasefire resolution which ended the month-long conflict between Israel and Hezbollah was agreed by the Security Council on Friday, 11 August, and came into effect on Monday, 14 August.
Mr Egeland added: Cluster bombs have affected large areas - lots of homes, lots of farmland. They will be with us for many months, possibly years.
Every day, people are maimed, wounded and killed by these weapons. It shouldn't have happened.
Mr Egeland said his information had come from the UN Mine Action Co-ordination Centre, which had undertaken assessments of nearly 85% of the bombed areas in Lebanon.
Earlier this week the US state department launched an inquiry into whether Israel misused US-made cluster bombs in Lebanon during the conflict.
A senior White House official told the BBC that the investigation would focus on whether US-made weapons were used against non-military targets.
Blockade defended
At their talks in Jerusalem, Mr Annan and Mr Olmert discussed the deployment of UN troops in Lebanon as well as the continuing blockade.
The UN chief said he hoped Israel would withdraw from southern Lebanon once 5,000 UN peacekeepers were on the ground in the coming days and weeks.
The BBC's Jill McGivering, in Jerusalem, said Mr Annan and Mr Olmert emerged from their meeting with little sign of the gap between them having narrowed.
Mr Annan's Jerusalem talks followed a visit to Lebanon as part of a regional tour aimed at bolstering the truce between Israel and Hezbollah.
After his talks in Israel, Mr Annan flew to the West Bank for talks with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas.
At a joint press conference in Ramallah, Mr Annan said that more than 200 Palestinians had been killed since the end of June, and the violence had to stop.
Mr Annan has now arrived in Jordan for talks with King Abdullah II, after which he is expected to proceed to Syria.
Long day here! Funcing = FUNDING!
Time to hang up my keyboard!
Agree that funding is big question
Society has been busting a gut to push smokers out of existance, and its working. Basing funding on that is really off the mark. How about taxing the almighty insurance companies profits - that's where the majority of healthcare money has gone and continues to go.
Let's stop funding Viagra...
...might result in more men willing and ready to fight for their country!!
Bush threatened to cut off PBS funding..
if they didn't stop telling the truth. So, I guess it is politics as usual, right? Also, could you provide a valid link proving this accusation. I really am curious.
You can go broke funding them for all I care..
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I meant rather than funding ABORTION, which was the point of the original sm
poster's concerns - that the US family planning money will go overseas to provide abortions. If that $ is being spent anyway, shouldn't we be spending it on contraception?
Wouldn't that money be better spent on CONTRACEPTIVE funding and education sm
world-wide? How about we stop unwanted pregnancies before they occur?
Still not illegal
I agree with Lila that I believe abortion is immoral but it's not illegal. Legality is a tangible thing and not an opinion.
but just because you think it should be illegal
doesn't mean that it IS illegal. U.S. law does not hinge on whether you think something should be illegal, although you certainly affect that outcome by your vote.
Democrat, relativism will not work here. Your opinion on what reality should be does not make that reality so. I imagine a world where no unborn babies are killed, but I realize that it may never happen AND I acknowledge at this very moment that abortion is legal whether I like the fact or not.
and this is illegal?
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And these will be some of the illegal
big O elected, should it happen.
then that is illegal -
grant money does not have to be counted as income, but you cannot turn around and count tuition as an expense if you received the grant money.
It adds up though with just the EIC to a lot of money without adding in that other stuff.
It really makes me sick! I believe in having programs to help people with childcare, food expenses, housing expense, etc., but I don't believe in just handing money to someone because they have the misfortune of making less money.
It is not fair and it has been abused too much!
THAT's what you got out of this...... not the law the illegal
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The fact is the war is not illegal
It went through all appropriate channels, and we have NEVER agreed with the U.N. to approve all military actions through them. We do have agreements, but we have NEVER given the U.N. the authority to tell us whether we will go to war or not. The congress has ultimate authority to approvate any military action we pursue, period. They approved it, so it's completely legal.
That's how W got elected! U mean that was illegal! Huh!
Can't imagine the pubs doing anything illegal.,,,,,,,
Coz that is illegal under campaign
finance law. Maybe McCain can allow homeless to stay in one of his 11 homes when he and Cindy are out flying in their personal jet?
not illegal, but definitely unethical
nm
shouldn't have said illegal, but
does all that make you think this election is going to be legitimate? Why, oh why can't people just do things straight up and let the people really be heard. I am sick of the whole thing, and honestly do not believe it really matters who wins either way... they are all politicians
Illegal immigrants.....
It is estimated that there are 10 million illegal immigrants in the US.
I bet it has to be to some advantage for the US, otherwise they would be persecuted more severely.
What do you expect from an illegal? (sm)
He's probably trying to get McCain to lend him his birth certificate.
Illegal aliens are definitely
hurting our country expense wise. I know they want a better life and I know they want a chance at the American dream too and I can't blame them for that. But they are going to have to do it the legal way. It almost seems like illegals have more rights than we do sometimes. Jobs are scarce as it is....we don't need illegals coming in wanting jobs too.
no, they were not an illegal alien, are you? nm
no, not an illegal alien, are you? nm
Illegal aliens
http://www.kfire.us/Brochure/Publicationblue2.pdf
We need to pay more attention to illegal aliens than we do. We don't want things in the US like MS 13....which unfortunately is already in the US. This gang is brutal and will do anything to anyone if they get in their way. The costs of illegal aliens
Illegal aliens hurt our schools which in turn hurt our children. They are getting free healthcare in emergency rooms that taxpayers are paying for. Some of you on this board might actually want to research this a bit before you say it isn't a big deal.
About illegal aliens.
There was another "gathering" yesterday for the Hispanic man beaten to death almost a year ago. One of the banners stated 'Stop the raids and deportation'. The other one read 'Stop racial hatred. Stop separation of families.' and 2 others I couldn't catch. Two women from Philadelphia stated "We have to stop deporting the people. They are human beings, too." Unbelievable! 
There have been a total of 4 "gatherings" to honor the man that was killed. This town is 30% Hispanic now in a period of about 4 years. The background of this town and its people are mostly Polish, Irish, and Italian who came here to work in the mines in the late 1800s and early 1900s. There are only about 6,000 people in this town now.
http://www.republicanherald.com/articles/2009/02/15/news/local_news/pr_republican.20090215.a.pg1.pr15vigil_s1.2306408_loc.txt
How many think you should bail out illegal
Unfortunately, there is no illegal prohibition against it
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Suicide is illegal.....
but how do you prosecute? sorry, but I find this morbidly funny. If someone wants to end their life, they will.
oh..he did a few things unethical and illegal
Getting information about his blind trust investments and also cashing in stock within two weeks before his father and brother owned hospital corporations stock was devalued. Like what Martha Stewart did..Got an inside tip. He denied he ever knew what was in his blind trust, however, the new head of the SEC said Frist was given many updates on what stocks he had and how they were doing, which is a no no as being a lawmaker he could easily sway laws to benefit the companies he has invested in.
Show me in law were pre-emptive war is illegal
Please pray tell, because the executive, judicial, legislative branches all disagree with you on that one. Sorry
It's morally illegal in my opinion...nm
illegal health care
I so agree with you on this. I typed a lot of reports a while back that are similar to what you are typing. Also, I thought it funny how many illegal adults were getting care through the hospital as well. The only way I knew this was those who were illegal did not have SS# when every other patient did. It's sad. I took a 2nd full-time job just so I could have insurance!
Get a grip. This is illegal and against the constitution. nm
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No, it wasn't right. It's unfair, & illegal.
If Mrs. M thinks Fox is illegal and Rush too, obviously she's not for...
free speech, and that is Marxism, socialism, and communism.
The fairness doctrine is fair only to the far left media.
All your civil liberties will go down the tubes, and obama supporters could care less.
Ignorance at its finest.
Doesn't mean I want it to be illegal at all stages because (sm)
I know what the dire consequences of that would be as well. But there has to be a limit.
nothing illegal has occurred until they actually vote -
it is up to the pollsters to keep the people from voting illegally - if you check people's ID that should take care of the situation.
Views on illegal immigrants and which ...sm
presidential candidate do you think MAY do something more about it. I am sure a lot of you realize we have illegal immigrants (mostly in large number Mexican immigrants) who have swarmed into the country illegally.
I have an Mexian illegal immigrant who lives near me. She is nice enough. She doesn't speak really good english. I know she got pregnant and was actually able to go to our neighboring state and apply for Medicaid to pay for her prenatal care and the child after it was born. And do you know she got Medicaid and I know for a fact she is an illegal immigrant because she told me herself. I asked and she told me. When it is possible for someone who is not even in our country legally to obtain government assistance, that is just insane. What is wrong with our country? 
Thoughts on illegal immigrants...
Are they working on getting their citizenship. If so, what is the time frame to getting citizenship. Isn't that the name of the game?
Here in ATL, it is a hot topic on the news. I just want what is fair to happen. I do want secure borders, however. My reason is to keep out terrorists. They can blend in with neighboring borders and pretend to be a citizen from that country.
Remember that guy who said he wanted to learn to fly a plane but didn't want to learn how to land. why didn't red flags go up with that comment. It seems we work extra hard at keeping airports safe but not borders. and I know people get offended when you want the borders safe but those people should also want safe borders from the terrorists for their families.
Don't want to offend, just want to be fair to everybody.
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