Wall Street Journal says Obama's tax cuts
Posted By: are not tax cuts at all....which we all knew on 2008-10-13
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Some need to pay close attention to this......... it's called welfare handouts. "Entitled mentality". The working class will get NO tax cuts. You all will be working to put money in the hands of those that do not. It makes perfectly good sense. I've been saying there is no way he can do anything he is leading people to believe he can because 1/3 of people in this country pay NO TAXES. He has led so many to believe he will cut middle class when he can't. He is blatantly trying to disguise "government handouts" as "tax credits". You want your hard earned money going to everyone who doesn't bother to work?
One of Barack Obama’s most potent campaign claims is that he’ll cut taxes for no less than 95% of “working families.” He’s even promising to cut taxes enough that the government’s tax share of GDP will be no more than 18.2% — which is lower than it is today.
It’s a clever pitch, because it lets him pose as a middle-class tax cutter while disguising that he’s also proposing one of the largest tax increases ever on the other 5%. But how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all? There are several sleights of hand, but the most creative is to redefine the meaning of “tax cut.”
For the Obama Democrats, a tax cut is no longer letting you keep more of what you earn. In their lexicon, a tax cut includes tens of billions of dollars in government handouts that are disguised by the phrase “tax credit.” Mr. Obama is proposing to create or expand no fewer than seven such credits for individuals[.]
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Wall Street Journal for one
I know, I know a "liberal rag"!!!! ha ha ha
From the Wall Street Journal
World greets Obama:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122592900344403049.html
Obama's Dour Vision:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122592129148302567.html
What an Obama Presidency Means for Your Money:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122591367859702209.html
Pelosi, Automakers to Meet:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122599560485005549.html
Obamas's Real Opposition:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122593259568103473.html
wall street journal more credible than CNN?
One of them is a link to a video...hard to say that was manufactured. It wasn't...I saw it live. Just leave it up to the people to decide. Both sides presented, and people can do their own research as well. They should not take what I post for the truth, or what anyone posts. It is a place to start to look on their own. I would just advise...both sides...anything on blogs needs to be verified with something a bit more credible.
This is America, and there is nothing wrong with presenting both sides of an issue. Is there?
this from the wall street journal, interesting article
http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB122515112102674263-lMyQjAxMDI4MjI1ODEyNTgxWj.html
It was leaked to the Wall Street Journal, so I'm not sure what your point is.
Assuming you have one?
Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch
same owner of Fox Noise
Wall Street has zero confidence in Obama's
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ABC: Obama Is Hypocritical For Limiting Wall Street Pay While Having A ‘Lavish Lifest
Yesterday, President Obama instituted a pay cap on bailed out businesses after it was revealed that Wall Street doled out an estimated $18.4 billion in bonuses last year. “If the taxpayers are helping you, then you’ve got certain responsibilities to not be living high on the hog,” he explained.
In what appears to be an attempt to call Obama a hypocrite, ABC’s Scott Mayerowitz “reports” today that the President also has a “lavish lifestyle.” Under the title: “Obama’s Perks: Private Jet, Chef Tax-Free,” ABC notes that Obama earns $400,000 dollars a year and even has a private jet:
The president makes $400,000 a year, but hasn’t received a raise from Congress since 2001. He also gets a $50,000 annual entertainment expense account (any unused money at the end of the year must go back to the Treasury.)
Then there is the use of two private jets, Boeing 747s better known as Air Force One. And of course the constant security details, drivers, a private chef, a country vacation estate and the rent-free use of a well-known, 132-room mansion called the White House. The president also used to have a yacht, until Jimmy Carter sold it.
As its evidence that “corporate America” is upset, ABC said that “some Wall Street bloggers” are angry with the compensation cap. But the article cited only one blogger, Dealbreaker.com, who — apparently poking fun at Sen. Claire McCaskill’s statement — remarked, “Some accountability needs to be put in place. We won’t have them kicking sand in the face of taxpayers any longer.” Dealbreaker.com also suggests charging rent for White House tenants.
Comparing the President to Wall Street CEOs is absurd. The “private jet” that Obama uses is Air Force One, which is used as a security precaution and necessary for the dozens of staff and press that accompany the President on every trip. Each use of the jet by the President is regarded as a “classified military operation” in order to ensure the President’s safety.
Furthermore, Obama’s salary is set by Congress (whose members are elected by the public). CEO compensation is decided internally within the company, usually by its board of directors. The problem with recent excessive CEO compensation was that executives receiving federal funds were still rewarded for failure with tens of millions of dollars from their companies.
The President, on the other hand, does not get a bonus for his performance, good or bad. Indeed, Presidents Bush and Obama earn the same salary. County Fair at Media Matters has more.
Oh Wow. Don't think Wall Street
likes what was done today. It's down 383.73 points and it's not even 4:00 yet!
90% of Wall Street is owned and run by....sm
liberal democrats.
Wall Street Grieves
The stages of grief:
Denial - okay that was last year, just read old Paulson reports.
Anger - that was Lehman Bros.
Bargaining - TARP anyone?
Depression -
Acceptance -
I think we have a ways to go until they get over it.....
It should be $$ for banks, big oil and wall street, right?
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Wall street bonuses expected
http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/finance/wall-street-bonuses-expects-come-season-despite-bailout/
Paying bonuses this year is likely to result in a lot of backlash from the average American. After all, even with bonuses down dramatically, they are still higher than the average American, who is losing his or her home, makes. Not to mention the government bailout of financial firms, which seems to change daily, is coming from taxpayer dollars. Concerns abound—rightly or wrongly--that some of the $700 billion bailout could go to pay bonuses this year.
Wall street, China, Japan, whoever they gave
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Wall Street loves the new president....ouch! nm
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Should Wall Street Bankers have their compensation capped?
Wall Street bankers, with their $18 billion in bonuses, private jets and gaudy conferences, are causing headaches for the GOP.
President Obama has proposed capping compensation for executives at banks that take taxpayer bailout money at $500,000. Republicans hate the idea -- a position puts them uncomfortably on the side of people currently about as popular as child-porn producers and subprime mortgage brokers.
Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-AZ) blamed the "tone deaf" bankers for creating the political environment that allows Obama to call for a cap.
"Because of their excesses, very bad things begin to happen, like the United States government telling a company what it can pay its employees. That's not a good thing in America," Kyl told the Huffington Post.
"What executives have done is troubling, but it's equally troubling to have government telling shareholders how much they can pay the executives," said Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL).
Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK) said that he is "one of the chief defenders of Obama on the Republican side" for the president's efforts to reach across the aisle. But, said Inhofe, "as I was listening to him make those statements I thought, is this still America? Do we really tell people how to run [a business], and who to pay and how much to pay?"
Democrats argue that banks that take government money must accept any rules the government decides to send with it. Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and Rep. Barney Frank are both working on legislation that would complement Obama's attempt to get a handle on executive compensation.
It's not a novel concept, and it's one the GOP supports -- when applied to welfare recipients, at least. "We demand that welfare recipients do an honest day's work for their checks.
"Evil" is George Bush, Wall Street, the Banks,
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I hate Wall Street. Hope that whole fake-money
$ + $ on WS = 0.
Wait - he wants to monitor health care? Like he monitored Wall Street? Pass.
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the death of Wall Street is the death of the USA...you really want that????? nm
Obama said he was going to let Bush's tax cuts expire....
there is nothing at this site that suggests this takes into consideration letting Bush's tax cuts expire. Everyone should look at what Bush's tax cuts were and what you are going to lose when Obama lets them expire. Get the whole story.
THe Bush tax cuts that Obama is going to let expire...
DID help hardworking people. Do you even know what they are? Sheesh.
Obama's "Budget Cuts" Laughable
So - you think it's impressive that Obama plans to ask his department heads to cut $100,000,000 from their budgets? Let's put aside for a moment the question of why he's asking them for cuts at all when he's the one who says that MORE government spending is the solution to our economic crisis.
Obama is crowing about this because he knows that Americans don't know how to translate "huge" numbers into percentages, and also that Americans have grown used to hearing numbers in the $trillions. I mean - millions, billions, trillions all sound pretty much alike! Let's prove him wrong, shall we?
If Obama were asking for $100 million to be cut from a $3.5 billion budget, it would represent 1/35th of that budget. 1/35 is about 2.86%. So even on a $3.5 billion budget this wouldn't be much.
But wait. Obama's budget is $3.5 TRILLION, which is 1000 times larger. (A trillion is 1000 times larger than a billion.) Conversely, that makes $100 million a thousand times smaller of a percentage of the budget. In other words, we're not even talking about 2.86%, but one-thousandths of 2.86%. Here's what that looks like: 0.00286%.
In other words, if Obama made NEW cuts of $100,000,000 from his budget every day for over 300 days, he still wouldn't have even cut 1% from his budget. So you may now be forgiven if you're underwhelmed by Obama's $100 million budget cut.
It's kinda like someone crowing about how they've reduced their carbon footprint by disconnecting their doorbell. And this little object lesson showing how little $100,000,000 is compared to Mr. Obama's budget also gives you a little bit better idea just how disgustingly gargantuan his budget really is.
Repeated? Obama doesn't want to repeat tax cuts
for the rich -- and "rich," by the way, is anyone earning more than a quarter of a million dollars a year.
Obama wants to give tax CREDITS to businesses that keep jobs in the USA, instead of exporting them out of the country.
These huge greedy corporations may be creating jobs, but they're not creating American jobs. Obama wants to try to slow that down and wants to reward companies who don't turn their backs on Americans.
Finally an article on the truth of Obama's big tax cuts and plans...sm
It's been hard to find this story and the facts lately, and I'm glad you posted this.
It really sounds like Obama is trying to "buy" the votes of all the people in America in the lower income bracket.
Very sneaky and scary, as most people believe him.
Obama campaign cuts off WFTV after interview with Joe Biden...sm
Seems like if any news source asks any tough questions, and not softball easy ones, that the Obama campaign cuts them off.
Sounds like Socialism 101 to me....silence any nonbelievers at all costs
Obama campaign cuts off WFTV after interview with Joe Biden
posted by halboedeker on Oct 24, 2008 11:12:15 AM
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WFTV-Channel 9's Barbara West conducted a satellite interview with Sen. Joe Biden on Thursday. A friend says it's some of the best entertainment he's seen recently. What do you think?
West wondered about Sen. Barack Obama's comment, to Joe the Plumber, about spreading the wealth. She quoted Karl Marx and asked how Obama isn't being a Marxist with the "spreading the wealth" comment.
"Are you joking?" said Biden, who is Obama's running mate. "No," West said.
West later asked Biden about his comments that Obama could be tested early on as president. She wondered if the Delaware senator was saying America's days as the world's leading power were over.
"I don't know who's writing your questions," Biden shot back.
Biden so disliked West's line of questioning that the Obama campaign canceled a WFTV interview with Jill Biden, the candidate's wife.
"This cancellation is non-negotiable, and further opportunities for your station to interview with this campaign are unlikely, at best for the duration of the remaining days until the election," wrote Laura K. McGinnis, Central Florida communications director for the Obama campaign.
McGinnis said the Biden cancellation was "a result of her husband's experience yesterday during the satellite interview with Barbara West."
Here's a link to the interview: http://www.wftv.com/video/17790025/index.html.
WFTV news director Bob Jordan said, "When you get a shot to ask these candidates, you want to make the most of it. They usually give you five minutes."
Jordan said political campaigns in general pick and choose the stations they like. And stations often pose softball questions during the satellite interviews.
"Mr. Biden didn't like the questions," Jordan said. "We choose not to ask softball questions."
Jordan added, "I'm crying foul on this one."
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2008/10/obama-campaign.html
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/25/obama-campaign-cuts-interviews-florida-tv-station/
This is from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution...
New SCHIP bill, same old reaction
Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 06:29 PM
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Details were still sketchy by Wednesday evening, but House Democrats and the White House are talking about a compromise on the bill that would add hundreds of millions of dollars to Georgia’s PeachCare, a health insurance program for poor kids. The House may vote on it Thursday.
The few details that have already been leaked to reporters, however, indicate that the compromise won’t be changing the minds of the 10 Georgia congressmen who voted against the original bill - and then voted to uphold President Bush’s veto of it - this month.
The compromise would still expand SCHIP, or State Children’s Health Insurance Program, by $35 billion over five years and raise the money through an increase in tobacco taxes, Republicans complained.
It’s not clear yet whether Rep. Jim Marshall of Macon, one of only two House Democrats to vote against the original SCHIP bill, will change his vote - something the state Democratic Party would love to see him do on the eve of Marshall’s re-election campaign.
Rep. Tom Price, a Roswell Republican, has proposed an alternative bill to fund SCHIP through 2012 and he took Wednesday’s news about the compromise as a sign that Democrats have no intention of negotiating the bill with more than a handful of moderate Republicans.
“They’re not working with those of us who are interested in finding a solution, they’re not dealing with our leaders,” Price, a long-time physician, said. “My understanding of the changes they made in the compromise is that they’re nothing but fig leaves. They do nothing to change the structure of the bill.”
The House is expected to approve the compromise if it votes Thursday, just as it did the original version. What Democrats need to see in the vote, however, is whether their new proposal picked up the support of enough Republicans to override Bush’s predictable veto of the bill. The Senate already has those votes.
All that being said...and I won't give my personal opinion as it is already known, other than this: I do strenuously object to one segment of the population being targeted to foot the bill for this, when many of the children affected will have parents who smoke. It will not affect me...I do not smoke, never have. But I still do not think we should target one segment of the population to pay for expanding an entitlement...especially since a good number of the families involved are probably in that segment of the population. To me that is just wrong on a very basic level. They should figure out a way where the cost is more evenly distributed. I don't want my tax burden going up, but if they are going to force this, they should not lay it all at the smokers' feet.
Okay...off my soapbox. lol.
Two-way street not so equal?
Just my 2 cents... though it is definitely a 2-way street with both conservative and liberal radio talking heads (and others) make these comments about all kinds of stuff, including assassinations of either Bush or Obama... I do see a difference here - in that there are a large number of folks in this country who think Bush should be in prison, impeached, or at the very least, hasn't done our country a big favor with this war...with popularity at an all-time low... NOT that I'm saying he deserves to be assassinated, I'm not!!
But this talk of Obama being in danger - it is not because he has done something wrong, it is not because he is a hugely unpopular person (quite the contrary), and it is not because of his actions.... it is about the color of his skin. Racism. And, fear.
Thanks for listening to my 2 cents...
I would not walk across the street to see either one of them. nm
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Picking anyone up off the street........sm
In looking further into al-Marri's case, I see that he did have charges of credit card fraud and making false statements to the FBI (you just don't mess with those guys!) so apparently he was not held illegally. I don't see this setting a precedent for unjust arrests of American citizens just going about their business.
As to your second paragraph....ROFL!! Count your lucky stars!
'Wall Street". NOT "trains".
sheesh......
And we'll be dancing in the street!!!nm
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downing street memo investigation
Republican Congressman Breaks Ranks, Joins Demand for Documents on Downing Street Memos
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Congressman Jim Leach (R, Iowa) has informed Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D, California) that he will co-sponsor her Resolution of Inquiry into Bush Administration communications with the U.K. about Iraq at the time of the Downing Street Memos. Leach is the first Republican member of Congress to publicly support a demand for an inquiry into the Bush Administration's pre-war claims. The 131 congress members who have signed Congressman John Conyers' letter to the President about the Downing Street Memo are all Democrats. The 11 Senators who have asked the Senate Intelligence Committee to do the investigation it committed to in February 2004 but never did are all Democrats. The Resolution, H. Res. 375, is a privileged resolution which must be brought to a vote in the House International Relations Committee by September 16th, or Lee is permitted to demand a vote of the full House. Fifty-two Democrats, including Lee, have co-sponsored the Resolution. Leach is the first Republican to join them, and he is a member of the International Relations Committee.. The International Relations Committee has 27 Republican members and 23 Democratic members. Thus far 10 of the Democrats have co-sponsored the Resolution. If the other 13 vote for it as well, then along with Leach, one more Republican vote will be needed for a tie, or two more for passage. Leach has questioned Bush's war policies for years and was one of five Republicans in May to vote for Congresswoman Lynn Woolsey's amendment requiring an exit strategy. Another of those five, Congressman Ron Paul of Texas, also serves on the International Relations Committee. Congressman Leach has broken the silence of the Republican Party on the Downing Street Minutes, said John Bonifaz, Co-Founder of the After Downing Street Coalition. His willingness to co-sponsor Congresswoman Barbara Lee's Resolution of Inquiry is bound to make the White House nervous. It is not possible for the President to paint this demand for documents as coming solely from his opponents. This is a demand for the truth. Did the president deliberately deceive and mislead the United States Congress and the American people about the basis for going to war against Iraq? We as a people -- from Crawford to Des Moines to Washington, DC, regardless of our political persuasion, deserve to know the answer to that basic question. Congress returns to Washington from its summer break on September 6, said David Swanson, Co-Founder of the After Downing Street Coalition. The first 10 days will test the Democrats' ability to stand together and challenge the Bush Administration, as well as Republicans' willingness to break ranks on an issue where public opinion has diverged widely from White House policy. The text of the Resolution, H. Res. 375, a list of current co-sponsors, and what you can do to help: http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/902
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Farmer down the street says regular Americans
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Like all those drug-crazed street terrorists did
60s Youth at least could recognize the potential of their country, took control of the situation, engaged directly to forge their own future world and took measures that blasted us out of the complacent post civil war plantation mentality and cold war mongering by working tirelessly on behalf of civil rights for blacks AND women and ending a costly, senseless war that never should have happened.
Not holding my breath here and expect very little out this current crop of spoiled brats. I lay down this gauntlet....stand up for yourselves and prove me wrong, will ya?...but do so with honor. Use your noggens and exercise your intellect, not the Jerry Springer style potty mouth free for all we currently see so much of on this forum.
tax cuts. oh, really?
I thought I was the only one who knew this. If tax cuts expire, we get honked! Duh! That's more $ out of our pockets!
Can someone explain why they want to have a lower salary? All I ever hear around here is how our paychecks continue to dwindle. If Obama gets elected, plan on an even smaller check!
How can this be so hard to figure out?
pay cuts
Where are you seeing this information so I can read this?
I see that there are tax cuts in there -
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090202/ap_on_go_co/congress_stimulus
Tax Cuts
I really think if we had had the tax cuts the last 8 years that we had WITHOUT all the additional spending, we would have been fine. I don't think it was the tax cuts that didn't work, but we spent way more than the tax cuts could help.
With that line of thought, spending more definitely isn't going to help.
Maybe all of the politicians that have 5 or 6 houses (yes, including Mccain) should sell all of their extra fluff and try to pay back some of our deficit. You know, live like regular hard-working American people. I mean really, they got us here, because they don't ever listen to what the regular people say!
Like that'll ever happen!
Tax Cuts
President Barack Obama ordered the U.S. Treasury on Saturday to implement tax cuts for 95 percent of Americans, fulfilling a campaign pledge he hopes will help jolt the economy out of recession.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKTRE51K1P320090221
Of course, those of you on the right who despise President Obama certainly do not have to accept these tax cuts. You are welcome to stay at your current tax rate in protest.
So much for tax cuts for 95%
of us. What a joke. Obama wants a cap and trade green tax.......do you realize how many people that will hit hard. Gas prices will be higher, grocery prices will go up, utility bills with skyrocket. This isn't just for the rich. This will hit everyone!!! Obama himself said that energy costs would skyrocket.....he said that during his campaign. I'm all for our environment, but this isn't the time to do this. This isn't going to help us at all. This is going to hit all consumers.....including low class and middle class consumers.....not just the rich. So this BS of providing tax cuts for 95% of Americans is nothing but a distraction for the Kool-Aid drinkers. He is like an illusionist....gets you focusing on one hand so we can't see what he is doing with his other hand.
tax cuts
Did anyone actually see a larger check beginning April 1st? I know I did not. I am paid hourly for 40 hours and my check was SMALLER by almost $50. Is this an anomaly or did my payroll dept screw up or am I not the only one who experienced this? Just curious.
First because of a hurricane. Now because of Wall St.
an earthquake in California. Or maybe because his favorite show is on TV that night.
I want somebody with some actual ballz in the white house, not an aged wimp.
McCain wants to put Soc Sec in Wall St just like
HE MUST BE STOPPED
I have zero confidence in Wall St......nm
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The writing is on the wall!!!
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I am, however, for building that wall...
Along the Mason-Dixon Line!!
Chicago Street Scene....sounds a little scary sm
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/11/the_street_scen.html
where are the cuts coming from?
who is losing out ESPECIALLY when he has all these plans for additional government programs?
Thanks for posting this - I think it cuts thru the
thanks
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