Valerie Plame on 60 minutes

• Valerie Plame on 60 minutes - reveille
  • Yes, she was outed...long before Novak did...she - Observer
    • incorrect information, blanket - reveille
      • I believe three things - reveille
        • I will watch scooter's conviction when they try - Observer
          • you are just wrong - reveille
            • That's right, ignore a court document.... - Observer
      • Here's the brief filed in court by several media agencies...including - Observer
        • Another cut and paste from a neocon rag - Boy this gets old....
          • Again...if this is a liberal trait then God save us from liberals... - Observer
            • You are a liar, pure and simple - Boy this gets old....
              • Calling me a liar, saying out of context... - Observer
                • It's a matter of opinion. - Boy this gets old....
                  • I second your opinion except - sandre
                    • You can only "out" someone who is covert.... - Observer
                      • not everyone agrees with your "fact" - Boy this gets old....
                        • Let's get to the heart of what I originally posted... - Observer

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There were investigative committees appointed by Congress that proved there were no WMDs........but, I guess they lied, too, huh?

what about Richard Armitage?  Certainly no conservative, certainly no Bush lover, definitely against Iraq war...he said HIMSELF that he talked to the Washington Post about Plame being in the CIA before Libby said anything to Novak.  He felt comfortable doing so because "it was common knowledge around Washington that Wilson's wife worked for trhe CIA."  Wilson himself brought all this on with the op ed piece he wrote in the times trying to smear the administration.  That is what made Novak say...hmmmm....why would the administration send a Bush hater to Niger?  Welllll because the CIA suggested him...and whoooo in the CIA suggested him?  Valerie Plame.   But no one, including the illustrious Patrick Fitzgerald, paid a lick of attention to that. 

Agendas, agendas, agendas.  Wilson and Plame out to get the administration, Patrick Fitzgerald to get a name for himself...no matter what the cost.  And poor old Scooter took the fall, along with the first amendment. 

Oh well....all for the cause right?  Get Bush no matter what.  Sigh.

Your president is rather retarded.........................look at the condition of the economy, war, etc. since my president Clinton has left office.

 Born in IRAN. Worked for Richard Daley, was her mentor? She is co-chair of the Obama-Biden transistion team. She hired Michele in 1991.

She will not give any info on whom he may choose for his team.  "Everything is a possibility." She is not ruling out anything. "Obama is selecting the best team for the job."

Rahm Emanual: She knew him for over 15 years. He embraces O's philosophy.

Will she take the Rich Daley model and implement it? Roundabout answer.

What are his flaws? "That's what is nice about being his friend. I can talk about his strengths, not his flaws."

Jarrett was born in Shiraz, Iran, where her father, Dr. James Bowman, ran a hospital for poor children as part of a program that sent American doctors and agricultural experts to developing countries to help jump-start their health and farming efforts. At age 5, the family moved to London for one year, then returned to Chicago in 1963. Her father, who is of African American descent is a pathologist and geneticist. He is currently Professor Emeritus in Pathology and Medicine, University of Chicago.^[2][3] Her great-grandfather was the first African-American to graduate from M.I.T., her grandfather was Robert Taylor the first black man to head the Chicago Housing Authority, and her father Dr. James Bowman was the first black resident at St. Luke’s Hospital. Though Ms. Jarrett has never worked in Washington, her great-uncle is Democratic powerbroker Vernon Jordan. ^[4] Her mother, Barbara Bowman, is an early childhood education expert and co-founder of the Erikson Institute for child development.^[4][5]

She graduated from Northfield Mount Hermon, a New England boarding school, in 1974. She also received a B.A. in Psychology from Stanford University in 1978, and a JD from the Michigan Law School" href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Michigan_Law_School>University of Michigan Law School in 1981.

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[edit] Chicago politics

Jarrett got her start in Chicago politics in 1987 working for mayor Harold Washington^[6] as Deputy Corporation Counsel for Finance and Development.^[7]

Jarrett continued to work in the mayor's office in the 1990s. She was Deputy Chief of Staff for Mayor Richard Daley, during which time (1991) she hired Michelle Robinson, then engaged to Barack Obama, away from a private law firm. Jarrett served as Commissioner of the Department of Planning and Development from 1992 through 1995; and was Chair of the Chicago Transit Board from 1995 to 2005.^[7]

[edit] Business career

She is currently the CEO of The Habitat Company, a real estate development and management company, which she joined in 1995. She was a Member of the Board of Chicago Stock Exchange (2000-2007, as Chairman, 2004-2007).

She is also the Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Chicago Medical Center,^[7] Vice Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the University of Chicago and a Trustee of Chicago's Museum of Science and Industry.^[8][9] Ms. Jarrett serves on the board of directors of USG corporation, a Chicago based building materials corporation.

mr Mcclain said he had no problem with going to war with Russia as per NATO if they attack Georgia again.  I dont know even where Georgia is so I was not sure I would agree the US should have a war with the big country over some were I don't know even where it is.  Aren't we enough war already?

...Sunday night about the cancer clinic that's closing due to lack of funds?  I can't begin to describe how angry I became when I saw this. 

After greedy, immoral Wall Street crooks created a worldwide economic crisis, while walking away with millions or billions, there are Americans who have been handed death sentences because of lack of MONEY.

I believe the entire health "insurance" industry needs to become extinct (except for maybe one or two companies for the "elite" in this country who believe they're superior and can afford astronomical rates). These links are a little old, but they give you an idea of how much healthcare "insurance" executives earn: http://blogs.webmd.com/mad-about-medicine/2007/08/ceo-compensation-who-said-healthcare-is.html and http://www.harp.org/hmoexecs.htm.

Certainly, these outrageous salaries, combined, plus all the other auxiliary costs that go along with this "industry" would go a long way toward funding a single-payer NONprofit healthcare plan.  No doubt that much of their income comes as an incentive for denying benefits to patients.

You insure your car because you MIGHT have an accident someday. You insure your home because you MIGHT need to file a claim someday. The premiums are based on overall risk.  However, EVERYONE will become ill at some point in his/her life, and we have now become a country that will only accept "survival of the fittest," while systematically "thinning out the herd" based on who has the least amount of income.  To "insure" health is like buying an insurance policy to insure that your bread won't go stale at some point after you buy it; it's completely irrelevant to whether a person has a job.  And if that person, God forbid, LOSES that job, then COBRA kicks in with usually much more expensive premiums.  So once again, if someone has no or little income, it costs MORE to insure his/her health.

Capitalism is good for some things, but it's the absolute most immoral idea that one's ability to live or die in a country like America is contingent on how rich that person is. Left unchecked, these companies, in my opinion, are well on their way to becoming the next AIG that the government will bail out because they're "too big to fail," while leaving millions of people to die.

It's pretty bad when someone like Hugo Chavez, who provides healthcare to the citizens of his country, treats sick people much better than Americans do. 

Nixon had a different "mindset" about health insurance back in the 1970s when he discovered with glee that insurance companies could make more money by denying services, so HMOs were invented.  It's again time to adopt a different mindset, one that's moral and one that doesn't literally leave Americans to die.  (Reagan had the bright idea to "deregulate" banks, an idea which Clinton enthusiastically embraced and Bush was only too happy to continue, and we see where that got us:  The Wall Street crooks won, and the people who trusted them with their money lost.)

After I saw this segment, I've NEVER been so ashamed to be an American. This has to stop.

GET RID OF HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES ALTOGETHER.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/03/60minutes/main4917055.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_4917055

P.S.  Sorry for the rant and sorry if my words might not make sense in some spots, but this really upsets me because I'm one of those people.  I don't qualify for Medicaid and can't afford or can't obtain (preexisting conditions) private or work-offered health insurance.

Lately, people will do anything to get their own "15 minutes of fame." That's why you have so many reality shows.

I think it's all despicable and they should not have shown that on TV. Now every other "15 minute" famer will do something on the same order to see if they can get in the newspapers or on TV. Watch and see. There's still 6 days left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0BTlZjNC84&feature=related

Absolutely got a kick out of the next one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp2PbOPX_8k&NR=1

I watch Olbermann.  Sometimes I agree with him.  Sometimes I don't.

However, last night he hit it into the park with his attempt to review what Bush did in the last eight years into eight minutes; he ran over time a little bit because there was so much to say.

I would strongly urge anyone who is not too busy whining, moaning, groaning, hating and raging about Obama -- anyone who is truly interested in the future of America -- to watch this, from beginning to end -- especially at the end (since this is done chronologically, not by matter of importance).

THESE are the reasons people voted for Obama.  THESE are the reasons that Obama supporters cannot understand why Bush worshippers still support him and reject the man who might undo the wreckage of Bush.

BUSH is the man who claimed to have a direct line to GOD.  Obama never claimed anything of the sort; if he had, I probably would not have voted for him for that very reason -- because it creeped me out so much when Bush did it.  So the assertion that Obama supporters are "worshippers" is ridiculous, when, in fact, it seems that those who still support Bush (the closest thing to the Anti-Christ that I'VE ever seen) are the ones who seem to think Bush is some sort of god.

Please watch every single SECOND of this video.  It will give you just a taste of the grueling task ahead of Obama in trying to correct all the damage that Bush has done.  We may, in fact, never know the full extent of the damage because Bush (as is mentioned in the video) has "exempted" himself from the Presidential Records Act.

THIS is why every truly honest, patriotic, honorable American who voted for Obama is so relieved he won.  Not so much "happy" -- but RELIEVED -- hoping (yes, HOPING) that our country may once again resemble the USA that once held respect throughout the world, the USA where hard work was once rewarded, the USA where families could afford to feed their children, and the USA where one's ability to obtain something as basic as healthcare wasn't only limited to the wealthy.  I'm not naive enough to believe this can all be fixed in four (or even eight) years, because Bush has been like a four-year-old sociopath that was armed with Daddy's credit card, an AXE and an arrogant giggle, each of which he used to its full capacity, and that's a LOT to clean up.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#28699663

c'mon people. I'm starting to see more and more vile comments on here in the past day or 2 than discussing the issues. Don't get sidetracked. Keep with the issues.

No reason to call someone names because their view is different than yours. Just because we still have freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to call someone else names.

Discuss the issues. That's what this board is supposed to be about. Iif you can't discuss issues, maybe you should find a board that will take your name-calling and snide remarks. Beating a dead horse is not helping matters.

It's getting out of hand again. Let's stop it now. PLEASE.

You won!  More accurately, we have all lost because they just won't leave, because in their twisted peasized brains, they believe they have the right to run this board, as well.  They're like filthy roaches that just won't go away.

In case you didn't notice, gt, we called a truce, which you just blew. sm

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Posted By: sm on 2005-09-18,
In Reply to: respectful? You? LOL! - gt

I have been off this board a long time and was just discussing with another poster here calling a truce and I was VERY respectful in these posts, but, of course, you had to start up again.  To the other poster who I made the truce with, can you see now why there can never be a truce here?  

I am looking forward to watching this interview because I am truly interested in hearing what this man has to say.

I can recall as a child growing up to the tune of We have to fight Vietnam because the Communists want to take over the world.  During those times, the worst thing a person could be called in the USA was a Communist. 

It seems to me these days the USA is the one that wants to take over the world.  It has no respect for any government that cares about its poor people or even America's poor, for that matter.  (For example, Chavez tried to provide cheap oil to the poor last winter while Bush didn't care if poor Americans froze to death.)  Any country that removes the profit incentive from medicine or education for its citizens is a terrorist nation in Bush's eyes.  We're quickly approaching the day when most of us will be poor as the middle class continues to disintegrate before our eyes.

I am suspect of everyone Bush labels as terrorist these days, and I want to hear both sides.  Bush refuses to sit down diplomatically and listen to what Ahmadinejad has to say, so I'm grateful that Mike Wallace took the time to do so.