Unless it's a crazy conspiracy-theory driven right winger
Posted By: who knows someting on "good authority" on 2009-03-17
In Reply to: It's going to go a further way down, to crash status. - Aunt Louise
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Conspiracy Theory..........
Author: Taylor Caldwell
In The Captains and the Kings (1976) Caldwell takes on the global power brokers. In this book we find, running through the story line, a description of the way the international financiers and industrialists (all private consortiums owned by an elite of the world's richest families and persons) hijack governments around the globe; instigating wars and gaining control over the warring countries through manipulation of the enormous debts incurred during a war. Mentioned too is the Council on Foreign Relations; and while a disclaimer states that all persons portrayed in the book are fictional, it is clear that the Council on Foreign Relations, as well as another major organization of the globalists are both very real organizations. Also described is the idea that political systems everywhere, and certainly in the US, are almost totally dominated by the ruling elite; and that no one even gets into the running for a major political office unless the elite believes the person is under their control. It is explained that this can be direct control; e.g., the candidate takes a solemn oath to be true to that organization above all others; or indirect control: the candidate is known to have done something illegal or scandalous. The threat of public exposure can then be used to bend the person to the will of the elite. Politicians can also be compromised through a "set-up". When necessary the elite will play that hand (conform or be ruined by the controlled media). It is further explained that there have been a few who were not under the control of the elite (back in the 40s and 50s) and who had some success on their own. These individuals were not corruptible and in such cases very dirty tricks were employed against them. There is a figure in the book obviously symbolising JFK, who went along with the elitists (his father's cronies), but who once in power went his own way - resulting in his assassination.
conspiracy theory
Economic crisis well controlled so far, maybe to give the republicans a chance at winning and to keep Bush from being blamed. Will they let the flood gates loose in January? Let us go into full blown economic depression? So far, they have only rescued themselves, not ordinary people. Maybe there won't be anything left to help ordinary people?
I call it a conspiracy theory because it is...
You mention scientists, demolition experts, police, eye witnesses...but someone had to be responsible for whatever you think might have happened, and therein lies the conspiracy theory. So who do the scienists, demolition experts, police, and eyewitnesses think is behind whatever they think they know or saw? And do you have any documentation for any of this? Especially since people actually SAW the planes fly into the buildings...unless you are saying the planes were flown into the buildings to cover up the "demolition" Or the "demolition" just happened to be planned at the same time the planes flew into the buildings? And if there were no planes and the eye witneses to that (including most of the world on television) were all victims of mass hallucination...what happened to the people on those non-existent planes? They never existed either?
Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me. No offense intended...just calling it like it is.
Yay! Another conspiracy theory for your scrapbook.
You can fess up now. You're Michael Moore.
Right?
I think perhaps you are a closet republican because that is quite the conspiracy theory.
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ah...I see your post below...interresting conspiracy theory....sm
I don't agree. Bush and Cheney will be well out of it in 2009. The changes that come will be all Obamas and dem congress.
Not arguing, though... I won't waste anymore of your time.
you live in a chronic state of conspiracy theory
how sad for you 
What facts have you researched to dismiss this as conspiracy theory?nm
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Care to post the right fringe rumor rag conspiracy theory link
I am not into solving prevarication puzzles. Further comment might be forthcoming if you spit out precisely what you are trying to say here.
So you don't think a right-winger
could have blogged onto the Daily Kos to make it seem a left-winger started these rumors? Not taking into account all possible aspects. It came from Daily Kos, therefore it had to be a left-winger.
Right-winger wants to know what is going on at Fox.....
WHAT IS GOING ON AT FOX NEWS?
Monday, March 16, 2009 12:26 PM
What the he11 is going on at Fox News?
On Friday evening, Fox viewers were treated to an hour-long televangelical special starring Glenn Beck. (The opening of the show can be seen in our Watch Now window, at right.)
Watching Beck cry for the cameras is always a treat, although I notice that Beck’s colleague Sheppard Smith did not enjoy it very much.
But other viewers certainly did like it. Beck is eclipsing Sean Hannity as Fox’s second-biggest story; very likely the ratings for the Friday special even overtook O’Reilly. Clearly, Beck is tapping into something. What?
The rest of this article can be viewed at the right-wing website NewMajority.com
http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScroll.aspx?ID=30edc824-3d2c-40fa-b904-cb1442e2bcaf
Any business, no matter what it is, is consumer driven...
and consumers (that would be you too) want things cheaper. And you go where things are cheaper. Lots of people go to 4 or 5 different stores (and probably burn more gas than money they save but I digress) to get something cheaper. In order for that store to give it to you cheaper, they have to cut costs. Soooo...enter offshoring. It is all consumer driven. So, consumers are the real culprits here. As to the disparity in what CEOs make vs what the little guy makes...I have no problem with someone who got an education and worked their way up the ladder. I do not understand this mentality where hard work should not be rewarded. As to what Greenspan said....that is taken out of context...yes, he said it, and you know what he gave as a reason? Education. Some statistics as to how American students test higher worldwide in the 4th grade, not so in the 12 grade. He says it is in relation to education level...that those with better education go higher up the income ladder than those who have less an education...so I take it that since you quoted him you are also of that opinion? What he was talking about had nothing to do with corporations or the way "they" want it. If you take down all the corporations, who is going to provide the jobs? Got an answer for that one?
What I find wrong is that he's pushing his own ego-driven agenda
regardless of what anyone thinks. I think this is called FALSE reassurance.
It's just the fear-driven tantrums of those who aren't getting their way. Keep posting.
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Well, I have a theory. sm
And I said a name above, because the L poster is the only one who seems obsessed with who you and I *really* are. Anyhoo, I didn't really even understand the *Original* Observer post, I'm afraid. Suffice it to say, the left has an entirely different reality about what comprises bashing than I do!
what you are saying here, is only theory,
but in reality, in real life, it is quite different, what is also evident on this very forum!
Tit-for-tat fights, posters trying to insinuate negative characteristics on others, and this without any proof at all.
Be honest, everybody tries to hide one's flaws, and please, do not tell me that a low IQ is something to be proud of. Everybody mentioned and accentuates what is positve and hides what's negative, if challenged.
Not 'flashing' it, just 'mentioning' it if it comes up in a conversation.
I never 'boasted' it, that's what this 'low-life' poster, smsg, who post every comment under a different user name, accused me of.
Don't be such a hypocrite!
yes, very interesting theory....sm
I've heard tell that at least in the old school democratic party, supposedly Bill Clinton had power brokered deals, in the dark back rooms, over brandy and cigars....that Hillary was supposed to be the dem nominee this year......But Obama changed all that, and the powers that be, felt that he would be the better choice, and thus, from what I hear, Bill kind of threw a tantrum...or several, some even out in public.
Anyway, I have no idea where my husband gets some of his political information, but he goes to all sorts of places on the web, and this was the hubbub earlier in the year, and one of the big to-do's this election cycle.
Personally, I find it distasteful if this practice does/did/still occurs, for either party. Shouldn't be, and it pisses me off to no end if it is so. So much for the will of the people, if these things are decided by the big wigs in power.....of either party....
...steps down off soapbox now....
If that's your theory, then the pubs
should have been all for it, but they weren't, were they?
Your theory is twisted
Maybe that's what they teach in the socialized education system nowadays (I heard plenty from my cousin who would tell me what her professors in the university were spewing). But what you stated is not the theory (that after 2 terms of one party the other party is supposed to be elected). What kind of screwed up site did you get that from (probably MSNBC or some other hate-filled station). If that was the case then there would not be a race and the opposite party would just be placed in - which is exactly what the democrats are trying to do.
I do agree that there is both far right and far left wingnuts. That is why the country needs someone who is a moderate. Unfortuntely the country will never elect someone from the Independent, Constitution or other party that is down the middle, but at least John McCain is more down the middle. Obama is the farthest left that you can get. It just astounds me how many Americans would rather have the country move to socialism and live under a dictator rather than have a free country.
Also, people forget that America is a Constitutional Republic, NOT a democracy. Nowhere in the contitution or Declaration of Indpendence is the word "democracy" even mentioned. Our founding fathers were extremely knowledgeable about the issues of democracy and feared it. They understood that the only entity that could take away people's freedom is their own government (which we will see if Obama is elected).
There are people who are bent on destroying our sovereignty by creating the North American Union (which means Canada, US & Mexico will become a single country). The NAFTA agreement was just the beginning of this. Obama admits to support of this. Obama's policies are that of Stalin's. Stalin's economic philosophy was socialism, which involved taking property from the rich in order to redistribute it to the poor. Sounds exactly like what he was telling the plumber guy and others. I think last night John McCain made a very clear connection that Obama's polices and core beliefs are the same as Joseph Stalin's.
We cannot go down that road. We need to continue on as a free country. To think that now that because you have two terms of one party it's the other parties turn is wrong. Especially if the other party is and believes in socialism.
We need to have a republican (or another party other than a democrat) elected as president as the senate and house already are democrat. This is what they call "balance of power". Americans prefer that the checks-and-balances evisioned by the founders be facilitated by having different parties control Congress and the White House. Put in a democrat president mixed with a democratic congress and a democratic senate and you have tyranny. They will pass every pork filled bill possible, tax you more and the country will go down the same dark road we hit with Carter and Clinton.
Yes, the country is in a state of turmoil one we haven't seen for not sure how long. I wouldn't go back to the depression, as we all know Obama is trying to scare people into believing if he is not elected we're going to hit a depression - another blatant lie of his. That is why we need a moderate in the office. We need someone to keep the democratic senate and house in order, that is why we need McCain.
People should not vote for the other party with your theory that if they vote for McCain we are all wealthy. A lot of us are voting for McCain because we don't want to be taxed over 45% of our paychecks like we were under the last democrat president Mr. "Liar, depends on what the meaning of is is" Clinton. It is a fact that under Bush most American have received tax refunds (not the richest of rich - people like me and others who make around $25K or so). Something I never saw once under any of the 8 years the last democrat president was in. McCain and Palin have more knowlege of how to run the country. How to create jobs, how to not tax the small business people, how to generate income for America, how to win the war and not rush everyone back because you think more people will vote for you if you keep pushing that, when in truth you will turn around and after elected send them all back.
I say if you want to be free. If you want to be able to start your own business or have any money left from your paychecks to build a future for yourselves. If you care that the country is now a safer place since 9/11. If you care that our next president doesn't hang around with people like Wright, Ayers, Farrakan, and has friends in the countries that want to see us wiped off the planet and will do so under an Obama presidency, then vote your conscience and vote John McCain.
After last nights debate no matter who you think won or lost, I'll be voting for a man who has the knowlege and experience to lead the country to better times and will continue to remain free. Otherwise you should learn how people in Cuba and North Korea and other communist/socialist countries feel. Why do you think they're all trying to come to our country. And the ones who immigrated to here to get away from there. I'm sure they will not be voting for someone who will make this country into what they risked their lives to get away from.
THEORY of evolution
Just that, a theory. It has never been proven. Just a cop out so you don't have to believe that someone BIGGER and BETTER created you.
nice theory...
but many companies have closed when unions forced strikes. they simply closed. everyone lost their jobs. Then they re-opened, new name, new company, often in a new location (many out of the US where they didn't have to cowtow to the unions) and those past employes were left with nothing 'cuz when they closed their took all the pension benefits with them, too. I am not talking about firing a union worker. That is a whole different subject. Ask someone who works for a company with a union how it is to be a good worker when all the lazy people around you are not and the company can do nothing about it because they union does not hold the employee to any standard, only the company.
Perhaps companies that don't want union simply don't want the union crap shoved down their throats. Yes, I think unions HAD a place and did a lot of good, but I think it's a thing of the past. Unions now are greedy and care more about the union itself than the worker. don't kid yourself into thinking that's not true. Check into union corruption and greed not to mention union violence.
Interesting theory.
Are you willing to apply it to Democrats, too? (You'll want to be very careful how you answer.)
...and what about Democrats who can't manage their finances or pay their taxes?
And I presume you won't be voting for Obama again if he can't even manage to keep Bo from taking a dump in the White House living quarters?
There's a word for people who think like you, but I can't use it without violating forum policy. Democrats a "shoo-in" next election? Doesn't look like Dodd's doing too well - and we'll throw the rest of them out if we can, too. See link - and then go right on whistling past the graveyard because we're going to send a lot of people from both parties home if we can.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/17/report-dodd-receives-early-donations-just-state-residents/
What's more crazy than that?
Other than maybe the US military deciding that soldiers who have been involved in community theater are gay and should be kicked out of the military. LoL.
He is truly crazy. sm
This is amazing. Bush has the gall to say that secret prisons and torture are not against the law. When he is told that it is in fact against the law, he says that its okay because he doesn't agree with the law... My God...his cheese has flipped off his cracker. He is going to protect us - we need protection from him.
Interview with Matt Lauer
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/09/12/matt-lauer-goes-after-bush-over-secret-prisons-and-torture/
It's just crazy...sm
And conservatives wonder why people are against little things like mixture of church and state. This sheds a new light on how I look at church and state.
I've always thought there should be a separation. It's like all of these things - faith based government funding, law suits about 10 commandments in federal buildings, you know - allow religion to slowly creep into the realm of government until one day we wake up and there are Christian militants all around us and we wonder how we got there. That's a long shot of course, but the more we think things like Jesus Camp are acceptable the more crazier it will get, let me tell you.
it is crazy, isn't it? nm
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It was crazy!
One of them had a nightstick?! What could their purpose have been other than to cause intimidation? It was just creepy. I got to vote by mail, thank God.
You have a gun? This is crazy.
Why are you even saying that
You crazy or what, he would not have
back then!! You think folks had a problem with a Catholic then, whoa, wait a minute....a black man . . . running for president? Get real!
are you crazy?
again this just makes me laugh because can you REALLY re-read what you just wrote and say that does not describe the liberals for the past 8 years????
come on, dont be a hypocrite, just try it, once. please
So true. But it makes it a theory.
And a theory surrounded by corroborating actions in its babyhood can and will eventually grow up to be a fact.
And there is a growing list of corroborating actions, all of which, as I originally said, frighten me.
You are entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to mine. Have a nice day.
sounds good in theory
& it's great you can manage to love your neighbors because you are forced to, but it would be great if you could work on the idea that homosexuality should be talked about in the same context as addiction, adultery, or other harmful or evil behaviors.
Homosexuality...is very much about loving another human being, despite everyone's (I daresay prurient) focus on sex. It's a mistake to equate being exactly what the godhead created you to be with evil, & to say that you can love your neighbor "in spite of" this shows such a profound lack of understanding & tacit attitude of superiority that I don't even know where to start.
If you knew the nature of real love and acceptance, you wouldn't have to force yourself to do anything.
Your theory doesn't really surprise
me. I just think it sucks that illegals get so much money from us for education, health care, etc. Now they want to give illegals the right to vote? What is the point of being an American citizen nowadays. You get more rights and benefits being illegal. It just irks me!!!
Color me crazy.
I think Hillary overall has a better package than the rest.
Those crazy Americans....sm
What our Indian and Pakistani counterparts must think, if they haphazardly happen to click onto this board!!!!!!!
not crazy, nor troll nm
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Not to worry. You are not the crazy one...sm
Pretty scary even if the poster represents only a small percentage of Americans. Thank God above they are in the minority. Keep the faith. Better times are coming. THese are just the tactics of desperate ignorant people but we will rise them up with us and show the world that Americans as a whole are not ignorant, gun toting, bigoted war mongers. Keep the faith.
Other countries are not so crazy about him
I mentioned in another post that a lot of other countries do NOT want him to be the president. People in other countries are describing concerns as he says he is going to change the world and they like their countries just the way they are. The only countries that do want him as our president are our enemies.
Has to make you think about that one.
That is crazy!. If you truly see things that way,
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Nice in theory. Doesn't work well
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I don't think it's a conspiracy ....
but the gist, that the FDA did approve it, is true.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verichip
There are already things a bit like this now... with implants people get being tagged for identification. (Say your body is burned in a fire. You may be traced with your fake knee.)
But I could see the government coming up with this a a tracking device for say, child molesters. I bet a lot of people would LIKE that.
Olbermann is off the chain crazy...LOL...nm
Crazy Obama Stories
This website has some crazy Obama stories. Good for some light reading and laughter.
p.s. I think I better change my name to Jodi sixpack so people know I am a woman, lol
Obama is FAR from a socialist... ru crazy?
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That woman has crazy eyes . . .
You know when you can see the whites of the eyes all around the iris. Them's crazy eyes.
Where on earth do you people get those crazy
getting any 'free money'. The super-rich will have to pay more of their fair share. For lots of others, it'll stay the same. For those of us who are hanging on by our toenails and making less & less money (umm.... medical transcriptionists, perhaps?), we'll get a bit of a break at tax time. But handing out free money? You gotta be kidding.
Drives you crazy, doesn't it?
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At this crazy time in our life
with North Korea testing missiles and Iran going nuclear, etc......our fearless leader Barry cuts back on missile defence. Swift move moron!
Not into conspiracy theories....
You hare serious anger issues. And other issues as well.
9/11 and conspiracy theories
For a very long time, there have been people who claimed that 9/11 didn't happen as reported. It's been claimed the black boxes were found by NYC firefighters, yet this was denied by the FBI. It was claimed that the remnants of a plant were never found at the Pentagon. There have been even more *theories* than this.
Up until recently, my common sense told me these *theories* were just ridiculous, and I never EVER gave them a second thought.
Now that I realize that every single thing this president has done has been dishonest, I'm not so sure about 9/11 any longer because I don't think there is anything this man WOULDN'T do, regardless of how heinous, to force Americans to *agree* with his policies by using fear, coercion and intimidation. Most things I used to consider to be simply *unthinkable* are quickly becoming not only thinkable but possible and maybe even likely under Bush.
Lately, when I wake up every morning, I hope I will find that the last 5 years have just been a horrifically bad dream, just like that other famous Texan: Bobby Ewing.
Oh, do I smell conspiracy?
The plot thickens!
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