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Unfortunately, you're talking to ignorant people!

Posted By: ......nm on 2009-05-23
In Reply to: What do you think they're doing to American prisoners? - mtmtmt

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You're very ignorant or you would know better
There isn't any hospital system getting rich on the back of Medicare patients (the elderly). They get a small reimbursement that private insurance owners pay a lot more for. No hospital system ever got prosperous off of Medicare and Medicaid.

I don't read Fox or the others you seem to know a lot about. This is from first hand knowledge. You don't have a clue what you're talking about. If you're so worried about the prosperous hospital systems, get a brain and ask yourself if you would want those ER doors open if you or your loved ones needed an ER and then try to educate yourself on how those hospitals manage to stay open.

He is trying to reign in all healthcare under government control and has openly stated he would control drug usage by government stockpiling of drugs and letting the "government" figure out who needs the drugs more. You really want to go that way? Those determined "too" elderly will not receive certain drugs as determined by your socialist government.

You poor folks are so narrow-minded in your thinking, it never phases you that perhaps there are those who actually educate themselves and they are NOT republicans. Democrats are so stuck on republicans, they have no recourse when called out on the mat than to point fingers toward another party. What about those who aren't for either party and see what's happening. Obama has made it clear with his own two lips what he wants to do. It seems most of his continued supporters (and there are lots who have regretted voting for him)tend to immediately make slams and point fingers toward the past or ANY republican for that matter if they don't like what they see their own president doing now. It's a shame really.........
yeah, but some people are so ignorant, they will
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People are so ignorant! Other countries with
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Talked to ignorant people who think Govt has its
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I don't know what you're talking about.

But I find it funny that you throw out a bunch of words and suddenly your friend below accepts them as fact.


I'm being investigated?  Fine.  Investigate away.  I have nothing to hide.


If you're talking about....sm
McCain, he has said he doesn't believe in torture, and I have doubts he would use it on anyone else, especially since it was used on him.


Hey, that's me you're talking about....LOL (sm)
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it), religion does have an influence on politics.  So when we start talking about abortion, for example, you really can't talk about the issue without talking about religion.  For me, the idea of religion being brought up on this board is not the issue.  The issue is that people seem to have little tolerance of other religions (or the lack thereof). 
No idea what you're talking about -
...except the person who posted whatever it was on the conservative board, so why don't you take it up with that person ON THE CONSERVATIVE BOARD? You sure give yourself a lot of license coming here to bash everyone else over it, as if that's some kind of excuse.

Looks like the NeoCons are getting bored talking to each other...have to come here to troll instead. Had to happen!
I don't know if you're talking about my post or not.

I think the subject line that All Americans Deserve to Live (or something like that).


I see that my post is gone, and if mine is the post you're referring to, I'm sorry.  I can't repost it.  It was just something I quickly wrote from my heart, and I didn't keep a copy of it.


I guess I'll have to start saving a copy of everything I write.  :-(


Sure sounds like you're talking about yourselves here, you two....nm
It's okay to glom on and bully down the republicans, be it the candidates or posters. But let one do it to you, and you cry foul, like the hypocrites you are.

Every description you use to define the right, sounds a lot like your libby posts. How ironic. Right in front of your nose, and you can't even see yourself.

So sorry for your small, closed mindedness.


I'm guessing you're talking about
the old fart, right? That's all he does. He doesn't care about our country. He only cares about being in power, why...I can't figure out. He'd be the second worst in history, BUSH first. Remember when you voted for BUSH? HaHaHaHa...Oh, not really. Look where we are now.
Don't have a clue what you're talking about so
Quran Surah 4: Women

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 89
If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

Quran Surah 5: The Table Spread
Christians will be burned in the Fire. 72

Quran Surah 6: The Cattle
Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 125
Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 128




Surah 9: Repentance
Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 113
Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 123


As much as Christians are harshly put down on this board, my God does not teach me to fight disbelievers, to not pray for them, to ignore idolators (not even for your family?), which would be the very ones we would want to pray for.

Also, my God does not purposefully lead people astray so he can them burn them in hell.

Basically, Muslims are taught to love other Muslims; otherwise, everyone else are nonbelievers and are not worthy of their love.

you're talking to the wrong sm --

Yes - they're already talking about the possibility
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You have no idea what you're talking about...(nm)
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Don't you realize who you're talking to?
These type of people have no loyalty to this country. They just don't get "free people". They have never gotten what it means to be in a country where they have freedoms other countries don't have and they never will.

They are so wrapped up in their own lives, they will never get the big picture. Just like with this president. They will sing his praises for the next 4 years even if he took every freedom they have away because they won't admit he is taking this country down the wrong path..... that's because country doesn't mean anything to them; the "party" is all they see and for some, the fact we have a black man for president is all they care about. Either way, it's very sad for us all.

I didn't like a lot of things Bush didn't do while in office... closing our borders for starters, so more moochers won't crawl, the crime rate wouldn't skyrocket, and our prisons wouldn't be full of still more freeloading moochers I have to pay for for years to come. The fact that he didn't pardon the border patrol agents sickens me. There is no excuse for that.

So, for those who are stuck on "party" lines instead of what is best for their country, they will pull this country down. The fact that poster thinks it's a good thing to keep "free speech" silenced is frightening. Those people are what's wrong with this country!
You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
You obviously don't know a thing about Britain in the 1930s, when Hitler was coming into power. Britain banned Winston Churchill and wouldn't let him speak in the house of parliamant, because he was speaking the truth about what Germany was doing to the Jewish people, and they didn't want to hear it! Well, we all know what happened there!

This whole thing started with Jacqui Smith..... because of ALL the violence in Muslim neighborhoods and all the Muslim leaders in Great Britain inciting hate and violence, she was to compile lists of Muslims who incite violence around the world with a call to jihad and make sure no more of these types of people can get into Great Britain. Well, they were on the right track there until of course politics got in there and someone convinced her they didn't want to seem to have a problem with Muslims, so they thought it best to throw in a couple of white guys so it wouldn't look so "profilish".

Speaking of hate-mongers, they have lots of muslims standing in their streets threatening violence to Britain and the United States, standing right in the streets of Great Britain big as you please incisting violence. Now that Britain has realized what a mistake it is to have them in their country and just what evil people they are, they are seeking to get them out and at the very least, keep anymore from getting in their country.

Too bad they didn't go after Rev. WRight....now there's a violent man inciting hate and violence if ever I saw one!!!

Kim Jong II isn't on that list. Chavez the sicko isn't on that list.

There are British people in the streets calling for the overthrow of their own government and for good reason! Their government has turned into just what this country is turning into. Butt kissing sissies!!!

Remember Abu Izzadeen? The race hate preacher? I doubt you have a clue who I'm talking about, cause you know nothing about anything, just diarrhea of the mouth. Izzadden PRAISED the July 7 London suicide bombings in the streets, and has been freed after spending barely serving 12 months of a 4-1/2 year sentence!! I believe his words were, "The Americans and British only understand one lanuage, the language of blood". He has called for ALL UK Muslims to kill British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. But I suppose YOU no doubt find him more appealing than Savage. Now THERE'S a hate monger...no... there's an evil human being. He now walks the streets of London again, spewing his inciteful hate and in full view trying to encourage all Muslims in London to KILL Britains and Americans.

Yep, you got it all figured out. Britiain is scared to death; their own police won't even go into Muslims neighborhoods because the violence is just THAT bad!!!

They're a bunch of sissy wimps who have now found themselves stuck with very evil people by the thousands in their own backyards and now they are regretting it!!!




Do you have any idea what you're talking about?
You sound like a blithering boob just parroting what the Huffington Post told you.

It's quite obvious you didn't check your facts, or do a moment's worth of research.




You're missing the point. She's not talking about
people like your stepdaughter. She's talking about all the free loaders who won't get off their lazy butts and get a job even when they are more than capable of doing so.

When I was little my mom struggled to feed the two of us because my dad was a deadbeat. She went to the welfare office asking for just a little help to feed us. They told her that she made too much money but if she quit her job, they would pay for everything: housing, food, everything. She could have easily taken the easy route and taken them up on their offer but had too much integrity. Here she was making too much money in their eyes but many weeks only had $5 after bills to feed herself and her only child. Now that is a messed up government. I'm all for helping people help themselves. Pay for day care while they get an education, pay for food while they work to better themselves but NOT pay for them to drive fancy cars, have satellite that they watch on big screen TVs, and eat potato chips and ice cream. Get real, open your eyes, and quit making excuses for the lazy! We're not talking about the needy. Yes, there are people are mentally or physically unable to work. That is NOT who we are talking about!
We're talking history here, not theology....nm
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I'm not talking about innocent people

I'm talking about people who raping, pillaging, setting fires, shooting rescuers, and stealing ambulances.  I have heard of no one but you defending this though I'm sure there's a minority fringe like you who are such as Molly Ivins etc.  I think your post revealed to me how out of the mainstream of thinking you are. 


By the way, New Orleans had one of the highest crime rates in the country before the hurricane.  There are people from that city who are freely admitting that there were places you didn't want to be caught dead in. 


Honestly you don't believe there is evil in the world.  I really feel sorry for you for that, because one day you will most likely be a victim and then you will be very confused....


So what, you're 80, 90 years old and know this? Previous poster talking about...sm
Joseph Kennedy back in the 1940s and 1950s, some 60-70 years ago, and what he did and didn't do? It's all in the history books.

Maybe Teddy is like that today and pays for nothing (doubt that, but hey, you say live there, whatever), really don't care for him much at all, what with Chappaquiddick (sp?) and all, and how daddy Kennedy got young Teddy off on murder charges on that poor girl, Mary Jane Kopechne. Daddy Kennedy called in favors for that one, too, doncha know.

It's well known how much daddy Kennedy did for JFK way back then, to get him elected. It's called history.




I'm tired of talking to hateful people
it's all about winning to you.  I get it.  Guess what your agenda lost in 04...so I guess that explains your bitterness. Sore losers the bunch of you.  You can stay over here have your little pep rally about how you are going to take over soon....it's all about one upmanship.  You can care less what is good for this country.   You all are the kings and queens of attack.  Look on your board and see how much debate is going on, hardly any...it's all a Bush and conservative hate-fest.  I can debate ALL DAY LONG, but I won't be made fun off and attacked by pure idiots....yeah I said it, idiots!! 
No, I'm talking about Iraq. You people are vile.
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We're talking about a brand new baby born with Down's...there is NO comparison at all...nm
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Haha - I was talking about firing people who disagree with her
but you must know her personally regarding that issue.
I had heard people talking about her sleeveless outfits
What in the heck is this all about? Do we not have enough to worry about besides nonsense this which means absolutely nothing? I cannot believe a discussion would even be going on. She has nice arms, show them off, other first ladies have as well, Jackie O, Mrs. Reagan, anyone who had decent looking arms. This is a nonissue and I think anyone who says differently probably just jealous of her good looking arms. Enough said.
Nope, never said I wasn't black, but I remember the argument you're talking about...sm
Nan, Military Brat and Bush supporter took me to task over whether or not I was black when I said *and who said I was black anyway* I'm trying to find this in archives.

But, what I can't stand is people having a preformed opinion about how I am going to think or should think since I'm black, that's why I don't post my race. Once I posted that I was African American that's when they started the *I thought you said you weren't black.* Which I have never denied my race. Sorry, but not true.
Actually, we're fascinated by you - the same way people are
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Hot? Hardly. Those aren't pecs, people. They're
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People don't "turn gay". They're born that way.

When McBush is talking, he isn't talking to you unless you are wealthy or CEO

 


who provides campaign funds.  Do you know why lobbyists are making the headlines?  Because they are bribing the politicians of both parties - lobbyists work for private interests (AIPAC) along with the pharmaceutical company ($280.00 for a bottle of pills?  Only in America, folks), oil industry (record profits at your expense) credit card companies and unethical banking procedures (Funny isn't it how Visa wrote the reformed BK bill, making virtually everyone end up in ch 13 (garnishing income, including SS) after raising credit limits and offering transfer balances at 0 percent to everyone with a last name and a roof over their head?  Along with mtgs that were bound to turn into bad loans when house prices dropped which they always do after a bubble.  God, I could go on and on here but I get tired.  The nation is in such trouble.  Serious serious trouble.  There is a huge loan to an unfriendly country (did you watch the Olympics?  did you ever see Bush look more uncomfortable other than during the Stephen Colbert roast during the national press conference.  lol.  


Well I want you to know what fascism.  And I want you to know that those treasury notes are backed up by the taxpayers (you) and real estate including roads and govt buildings and parks.  Have you noticed why Save-Mart Center is owned by savemart and not a community business or the community itself?  There is somethign happening slowly and surely and it is NOT going to benefit middle class america one iota.  You must know that as a poor person, you have no power, no voice.  Elections are rigged and the politicans cease to care whether you like them or not - oh wait, that has already happened. 


THINK ABOUT THIS!!!!  Your 401Ks and investments/assets are what at are stake! 


Fascist governments nationalized key industries and made massive state investments. They also introduced price controls, wage controls and other types of Soviet-style economic planning measures.[12] Property rights and private initiative were contingent upon service to the state.[13].[14] Fascists promoted their ideology as a "third way" between capitalism and Marxian socialism.[15] Fascists in Germany and Italy claimed that they opposed reactionaries, and that they were actually revolutionary political movements that fused with conservative social values.


Talking to them is talking to a brick wall.
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I am, not talking about Clinton, I am talking
about the torture of prisoners, crimes against the Geneva conventions.

It seems that you did not read the last sentence in my former post.

Are you saying that crimes from the near past should all be forgotten?
ignorant self??
Believe me, honey, I am far from ignorant and Im just trying to educate those backward relic conservatives, trying to get them to live in the real world..Happy Days was fun to watch on TV but it is not reality..Now come on, put away your poodle skirt and move on..Democratic ideology is the future..
Ignorant? Not me.
I have done much research on stem cell research and I am definitely not ignorant.  However, from what positions I see conservatives take over the past 5 years or so, seems it is pot calling the kettle black.  Once again, a conservative just cannot debate an issue without name calling, too bad.
Ignorant? sm
There is nothing ignorant about deciding to take the candidates on face value or chosing to be positive and upbeat rather than hateful and divisive. What is ignorant is relying on these ill-informed, partisan, smutty, mud-slinging smears as the basis of chosing the leadership of our country. Anon is quite right. It boils down to satus quo versus change. Who are any of you to tell her any different? All you detractors and nay-sayers want to believe the very worst about your opposition candidates and their supporters and protest so much about how they cannot be trusted. The real dishonesty is found in these attack posts and are the least reliable of all.

Anon, you go girl! You deserve the peace that comes with being confident in your unwavering support. As for the rest of you Kamakazi posters, enjoy yourselves down there in your cesspools of hatred.
Ignorant? Really?
Who is this loser you are saying should shut up?
1. One of only 20 students in 1973 accepted into the freshman class at Julliard where he was one of 2 students (the other being Christopher Reeve) accepted into their advanced program of studies that same year.
2. Master of dialects and impersonation at Julliard.
3. Developed art of improvisation while starring on Mork and Mindy.
4. One-man-show stand-up comedian since 1978.
5. Comedy Central's #13 selection on top 100 stand-up comedians of all time.
6. Made 70 movies in the past 28 years, to include comedy, drama, animation and children's movies.
7. Received Academy Award nominations in 1988, 1989, 1991 and 2006.
8. Won the Oscar in 1998.
9. At age 32, kicked cocaine habit (25 years ago) after the death of his friend, John Belushi and the birth of his son.
10. Devotes a great deal of his time to raising money for charities through his and his wife's Windfall (philanthropic) Foundation, his favorite charity being Children's Promise.
11. Performed for USO for troops stationed in Iraq for 4 years.
12. Performed by personal invitation from Prince Charles at his 60th birthday celebration this year.

Seems like the only ignorance around here would be the kind that would express such ugly, ugly sentiments about such a brilliantly gifted talent as Robin Williams. Now THAT'S sad.
You are way ignorant.
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way ignorant

Ignorant of what?  The truth?? go give yourself a hug, get a mug of hot cocoa and grab your blankey and go to.....sleep


Ignorant is
believing you can predict the future while turning a blind eye to the past. Thanks. I will be on my merry way. I am looking forward to a kinder, gentler America, despite your best efforts to shower me with all your gloom, doom, apocalypse and armageddon. Have fun in that deep dark hole you are hunkered down in.
Boy, That Was Ignorant of You
"Christ NEVER presumed to know what the Father God was thinking."

You obviously haven't got the first clue about Christianity.


There are just as many ignorant

far right people as there are far left people.  It seems that both sides have people who can't help but say controversial things.  As for Sotamayor herself.....she is the one who made the racial comment that she would make better decisions than a white man because of her experience and being a latina woman.  I still say that if any white male had made any such racist comment, people, especially libs, would be calling for his head on a platter and he would not only lose his position but his career would be over.  There is the big difference.  It seems like minority groups are allowed to say racial things but the moment a white person does......all he!! breaks loose.


I personally feel that not only her comment was racist but for her to throw out those tests done by those firemen is both unfair and discrimination.  Every single firefighter....no matter what race they were.....were given the same materials and the same amount of time to study.  How can those tests be discriminatory towards minority groups?  It isn't like all the white folk got the information a month ahead and minority folks got only 2 days.  As far as I'm concerned, if minorities didn't score as high....they should have studied harder and they don't deserve a promotion.  To study hard, score high on the test, and be denied a promotion merely because you aren't a minority.....how is that not racist and discrimination?


Your information is so ignorant.....
of the real truth that is kind of scares me.  I am afraid that this is what the U.S. has become - a nation of ignorant lemmings who cannot read the information available and refuse to believe what has been documented over and over and over again....that we have been grievously misled by this administration.  PLEASE educate yourself, study multiple world-wide news and information sources from various political genres and THEN draw your conclusions.  And I can assure you, the conclusions may be painful and they will also be startlingly different from you currently hold to be true.
I'll take the ignorant comment
as a compliment....believe or not I do read a lot and from different perspectives.  What people like you can't stand is that some people don't take the same perspective as you.  If you want to live in a doom and gloom and defeatest mindset go ahead...you are certainly free to do so, but calling me ignorant for my perspective on the whole situation shows that you cannot accept other's views on the whole subject.  Again, where's the tolerance and understanding? 
You are beyond ignorant Libby
You are not one bit objective. You are consumed by hate. If you will look at the C-board you will see we are debating issues having to do with our president such as the Supreme Court Nominee and much to this board's generalization we've not all drank the Bush Kool-Aid. Calling us Bush groupies is grossly in error. You are sooo consumed with hate you would believe anyone but Bush....well, that tells us how far your hate has taken you.
You are an ignorant fool
They are asking for things like deodorant, foot powder, Thanksgiving and Christmas decorations, feminine items like tampons.  Shampoo, conditioner, books, stationery to write home, Christmas cards, letters.  They want letters.  With every post you define YET AGAIN over and over how little you have a clue about our military and how little your regard for them.  And you will never get any better.  You will remain the pretenders of supporting the troops. As you have always been and you will always be.  Shameless, shameful, tragic. 
Ignorant post
Your ignorance is showing big time..I suggest to all of you who do not know how to debate, take a class at your local high school or college on debating..It is obvious most of the neocons, who for whatever reason I cant imagine frequent the liberal board, do not know how to debate intelligently, logically and fairly.  When debating, you do not attack the opposite side personally, you attack the ideas put forth by the opposite side.  Yet, reading over all the neocons posts on this board, all they do is attack the poster, not the ideas suggested and put forth..It gets ugly because they attack the poster, not the ideas, which makes me shake my head in wonder, as the neocons know nothing at all about the liberal poster, yet they assume greatly.  Please,  neocons, take a class on debating or probably you could even find out the correct way to debate by searching the internet..cause these personal attacks get tiring..so tiring..
I said your statements were ignorant - not you,
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That is about the most ignorant thing

I have ever heard.  If that is truly how you feel, you are voting blindly.  This is why I fear this election.  Ignorant people voting for someone they haven't even researched just because they want change.  Well....sometimes change isn't for the better.  Granted....things suck right now but the last thing we need is a change for the worse and I believe that is what Obama will bring.  I don't like either candidate and am struggling with what to do, but I'm still researching and looking into things instead of voting blindly.  I will probably vote for McCain because I feel he is the lesser of the two evils, but I am truly not happy with either candidate. 


As for needing Dems in charge.....I know the current pres is republican but the dems have control of the congress.  I haven't seen much good out of them either.  I don't trust any politician because they are all out to line their pockets full of money while lying to the American people about the "changes" they will make in order to get elected in office and end up doing absolutely nothing they promised.


This post is entirely too ignorant
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