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Umph, umph, umph... I feel safer already...nm

Posted By: Democrat on 2006-08-04
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Here's how much safer
Do the math. If they hated us before, they sure as he** hate us MORE now. It's the foreign policy, stupid! Oh, and wasn't it BUSH who vowed to get Osama *dead or alive* but then later said he didn't *think about him much*??????

The graphs and links don't carry over in the copy and paste, but you can read those at his blog: http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/

When George W. Bush made a prime-time television appearance Monday night to give a political speech -- under the guise of commemorating the five-year anniversary of September 11 -- he started right off by telling both a lie and the truth in one short sentence.

Today, we are safer, but we are not yet safe, said Bush, which means he was batting .500 with the truth in just one short statement. Not bad for him. It is undeniably true that we are not yet safe, but to imply that we are safer than we were before Bush turned the world against us is demonstrably false.

And Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL) sketched out the only numbers needed to confirm that Bush's war on terror is not only going very badly, but has gotten much, much worse on his watch.

Osama bin Laden is still on the loose. Al-Qaeda's membership, estimated at 20,000 on 9/11, is now estimated by our intelligence agencies at 50,000. Instead of shrinking and disappearing, they are growing geometrically, said Durbin on the Senate floor Tuesday, in describing how unsafe Republicans have made America.

Now there's a number we want to talk a lot about between now and the midterm elections, as Republicans beat their chests and say how safe they've kept Americans.

And Durbin's numbers check out. According to the 9/11 Commission Report, U.S. intelligence estimates put the total number of fighters who underwent instruction at bin Laden-supported camps in Afghanistan from 1996 through 9/11 at 10,000 to 20,000.

And recent research by the nonprofit, nonpartisan Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism, funded by the Department of Homeland Security and other government grants, says that the number of Al-Qaeda has jumped from the 20,000 reported by the 9/11 Commission a few years ago to 50,000 today.

This is an astonishing and disturbing number given that these are the people our own government said attacked us on September 11 -- and there's a hell of a lot more of them now.

Durbin also responded to charges by Rick Santorum (R-PA) that floor-statements made by Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) about Iraq were damaging and purely political in nature, by citing a report released Monday from the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) entitled Stabilizing Iraq: An Assessment of the Security Situation.

The GAO published a graph yesterday. The number of attacks rose from around 100 in May of 2003 to roughly 4,500 in July of 2006, said Durbin. Is it political or partisan to note the obvious, the GAO report to which Senator Reid made reference? That is not political partisanship; that is a reality, and we should face that reality because Iraq does continue to slip into civil war despite the billions that we have spent and the thousands of American lives which have been lost in that battle.

And here is the chart from the GAO report:

Since June 2003, the overall security conditions in Iraq have deteriorated and grown more complex, as evidenced by increasing numbers of attacks and Sunni/Shi'a sectarian strife, said the GAO report.

The report continues:

Enemy-initiated attacks against the coalition and its Iraqi partners have continued to increase through July 2006. Since 2003, enemy-initiated attacks have increased around major religious or political events, including Ramadan and elections...

Overall, attacks increased by 23 percent from 2004 to 2005. After declining in the fall of 2005, the number of attacks rose to the highest level ever in July 2006. Total attacks reported from January 2006 through July 2006 were about 57 percent higher than the total reported during the same period in 2005. These data show significant increases in attacks against coalition forces, who remain the primary targets, as well as civilians and Iraqi security forces.

The GAO ended the report with some damning questions for the Republican-controlled Congress -- questions that will undoubtedly be met with deafening silence until the scheduled October 6 adjournment, including:

* What are the key political, economic, and security conditions that must be achieved before U.S. forces can draw down and ultimately withdraw from Iraq? What target dates, if any, has the administration established for drawing down U.S. forces?

* Why have security conditions continued to deteriorate in Iraq even as the country has met political milestones, increased the number of trained and equipped security forces, and increasingly assumed the lead for security?

* If existing U.S. political, economic, and security measures are not reducing violence in Iraq, what additional measures, if any, will the administration propose for stemming the violence?

I guess, using Republican parlance, the General Accountability Office must hate America too.

Durbin, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate, wrapped up by pointing out that, after a brief period of focus and success in Afghanistan following the start of that war in October 2001, things have been going downhill ever since and the Taliban is once again making a major bid to control the country.

There is another reality, said Durbin. The Taliban is gaining ground again in Afghanistan. They have set up shop in Pakistan where that Government has agreed to have a safe haven for some of these terrorist forces. That is unfortunate, and it is disastrous when you think of our long-term war on terrorism.

Bush seems to disagree with that assessment, saying on March 16, 2006, We have joined with the Afghan people to bring down the Taliban regime -- the protectors of the Al-Qaeda network -- and aided a new, democratic government to rise in its place.

I suppose there may be a way to squeeze some truth out of that statement, but the Administration will never acknowledge that, on their contrived, tough-on-terror watch, things have quietly been going to hell in a hand basket in Afghanistan, with Taliban attacks and suicide bombings way up in the last two years.

And, even if we accept the White House's ongoing claim that Iraq, and not Afghanistan, is the central front in the war on terror, the daily Iraqi death toll, our own dead and wounded and the recent revelation that U.S. forces may have lost control of Anbar province to the insurgents, tells just how badly Bush is doing there as well. Not to mention that as far back as mid-2005, even Bush's fellow Republicans were convinced that the Administration's rosy outlook was a load of BS.

Things aren't getting better; they're getting worse, said Nebraska's Republican Senator, Chuck Hagel, a Vietnam Veteran, in June 2005. The White House is completely disconnected from reality... The reality is that we are losing in Iraq.

Throw all of that together with threats from Iran and North Korea -- that the White House seems to have no ability or willingness to engage -- and an overextended, worn-out military, and you get quite a bowl of weak mush served up by the guys continuing to brag about how safe they'll keep us.

So, to recap, every Congressional candidate needs to say this over and over again in the next eight weeks:

* A 150 percent increase in the number of Al-Qaeda members in the world while we're focused on a civil war in Iraq
* Attacks on U.S. troops, Iraqi forces and civilians are skyrocketing, despite assurances from the White House that things are going just fine in Iraq
* Our neglected troops in Afghanistan are facing a 1,200 percent increase in Taliban attacks and a 600 percent jump in suicide bombings.

And then repeat again and again and again until November 7.

Oh, and one more thing: Where the hell is Osama bin Laden?

My job is probably safer than yours
At least I CAN spell.

Deregulation may be the topic, but in your dozen or so posts already this morning you've shown yourself to be unable to wrap your mind around the man's name.

I wonder which war is globally safer:
Iraq or Iran. We don't have enough troops to fight both, and if he brings home troops from Iraq, he will only send them to Iran next. A nuclear war could mean the extinction of mankind, which I'm beginning to think he and his most radical religious followers want, in order to fulfill the prophecy of the Rapture. Life is getting more frightening every day. I don't recognize my America any more.

I'm feeling safer and securer. I don't know about you...JOKE! --NM
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Again, if we are so much safer, why did the 9/11 commission give him a failing grade?
You can't answer that either. Despite any connection between Iraq and 9/11, Bush and Co. (on fake intelligence) has stirred up an incredibly dangerous hornet's nest, yet you think everything is great. Why don't we just hand Iraq to Iran on a silver platter and just be done with it?

Why subject the rape victim to a surgical abortion. Birth is safer. nm
nm

and I feel like makin *du du duu du du duu* feel like maaa-k-in love to YOU!
ARGH!!

You feel someone should be forced to do something they feel is wrong? sm
Sounds like communism to me.

I do not feel sorry for the 'terrorists', I feel
sorry for those who are (or soon were) held there and are innocent.

I feel ya..

I just have to try and stay positive. I dont want THEM to win.

JUST KIDDING!!!

Hey, why don't you tell us how you really feel?
nm

Tell us how you really feel
I think you need to use about 1,000 more ugly adjectives to make your point...

Feel the same way...
....I learn a lot on this board. Let's give the administrator a chance??? Otherwise IGNORE the trolls, even though it is really really hard!

LOL I feel the same way!
I am intrigued with his eloquence, not to mention his intelligence and complete command of law knowledge. Yeah, I know he's been studying and practicing, but he seems pretty sincere.

I'm just worried about the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. He is a conservative and if Bush nominates another conservative, well...

One of my concerns is the abortion issue. I am personally against abortion, but I am pro-choice. It scares me to think what would happen if Roe V Wade was overturned. Illegal abortions, girls and nonwealthy women dying. Of course, we would definitely see a rise in D&C's for the rich and connected.

I feel sorry for him, too.
He was always one of my favorites. He still is. He was *conned* just like the rest of the world. I can understand why he resigned. Being a man of such honesty and integrity, I hope he doesn't beat himself up too much personally about it. I don't believe he intentionally meant to lie. He was merely another victim of the current administration.

I feel the same way. sm
I have issues with much of President Bush's policy, most espeically immigration and big spending. I don't see that President Bush supports the true conservative mindset. I do support him, however, because he does uphold many other conservative values including abortion and I am 100% behind the war against Islamic terrorists.

Many feel it is necessary
I am not the only one who feels protesting is necessary, as you well know.

It is nice to spout opinions about what YOU think are the consequences of protesting, but there is no facts to back this up and is pure speculation, which I continue to see quite a bit of.

No need to feel sorry!! nm
nm

Im sorry you feel that way,
however, theres nothing superficial about the content in the video. Pets already have these type of chips implanted in them. Tracking chips. This is very REAL.

These chips are around NOW. As seen on on the video, a family has already volunteered to have these v chipis implanted. Theses chips will be more sophisticated than the ones placed in pets. Medical information, banking information, everything about you will be in this chip. At first it may be voluntary but before long these will be mandatory, to to buy or sell or do anything. Sure sounds like Revelation to me. End Times.

For those who have Christ's Salvation, they will be taken up with him in the clouds when he comes back. It's the ones left behind that will suffer this and many other great tribulations. Things are happening all around us that are in the book of REVELATIONS. Wars and rumors of war. Famine, Floods, Natural Disasters everytime you turn around. Rampant homosexuality, Abortions, pornography kids killing kids, gang violence, sexuality strewn everywhere and many other things on the news. This world is full of evil. Satans playground. Not to mention the economy and the shape it's in. People are losing their homes, jobs. There focus is on material things. Charge it now, worry about it later. It's all catching up. Yes, I believe we are in End Times. I do respect your opinion though. I will respectfully agree to disagree.

God Bless.
Lisa

Feel Ya
I really feel you. I was in the credit union one day recently and actually talked to a woman I know who was there to process an application for a credit card because of that idiotic commercial.

"I feel so alone..."

Sorry you feel that way.
Sorry you can't let people live their own lives without feeling the need to determine that a woman "must have a baby no matter what". I guess you would rather see a child raised in poverty, be hungry, live with abusive parents, be a punching bag if the parents take their frustation out on the child, feel unloved, and unwanted. After all.. the person who got pregnant as someone so delicately put it "needs to deal with it and be responsible". Sure it's responsible to bring a child into a horrible horrible home just so the mother can "suffer the consequences" that she accidentally got pregnant. Never mind the condom broke or her birth control pills didn't work, or she was raped, or it was found that the child would be severely crippled or retarded and would never ever have any hopes of having a normal or decent life, or any of the other numerous reasons someone may have gotten pregnant. But by god they better have that child and pay for their mistake.

We are all entitled to our opinions, but when it comes to another woman deciding with her doctor the best course of action for her future and the future of a baby (who is not even developed yet and cannot feel pain or think) that's where I draw the line and it then is not my business and if it happens to me it is nobody elses business - and that is my opinion!

We don't need to watch any abortion films. We all know the process and what happens. If the baby has developed it's a horrible horrible thing. There is no denying that. At the same time it's quick. Making a child suffer for life (60, 70 & 80 years or more) your okay with that??? I say let the child be born into the Kingdom of Heaven where the child will not have to suffer the consequence of a horrible life on earth but feel the love forever our our creator.

Isn't that odd? I feel the same way about...
true believers of BO/JB.

Sorry you feel that way.......
One doesn't have to be "religous" to feel abortion is murder. Believe it or not, there are "nonbelievers" out there who believe abortion is murder. Some are so condemning of those that believe it is murder because a lot of them have had or know of someone who have had an abortion and have those feelings/issues to deal with.

And the "crutch" you refer to, which I believe would be God, isn't a bad thing, ya know. Maybe you should try it!!!!!!

I wonder about this too. I feel really bad for...sm
the soldiers that have had their tours of duty extended up to 12 months and when they get home for a few months, get sent back again. How long can this keep up. So many of them are National Guard who have real jobs and families back home. It is just not fair that the burden is shared by so few.

I feel the same way as you do.
DH told me there is some site that tells who voted for it and against it.

The whole lot of them needs to be fired!!!! Especially starting with the ones you mentioned.

The dems are sitting there patting themselves on the back for getting this to pass when they are the ones who put the crisis in hand.

Both Obama and McCain voted for it. I'm disgussed with both of them. I'm voting for the constitution party this election. It's about time we put the country back on the right track.

It is true though. We have no control. We are supposed to, but it seems like the people are just placing themselves in the position of office. Pelosi? Give me a break. She's been in there how long and she's still doing a sh!tty job. Frank? Pulleease. And Dodd? He's probably the worse. No wonder why Connecticut (my home state) wants him to remain in Washington, they don't want him in Connecticut.

Politicians in DC, corrupt to the max, liars to the bone.

Most of what you say is exactly how I feel. I too...sm
have a hard time about the Rev. Wright's church and his sermons. I would really like for Obama to explain this further, but I have a feeling that his handlers are afraid that this would inject race into the campaign and are not addressing it. This, however, is not a deal breaker for me because I do not believe religion should be an issue and plan on voting for Obama. More positives for me than negatives.

This is how I feel.....sm
The last 6 years, people have been buying what they cannot afford. Our children learn from us and sad to say, but they want everything now and charge what they can't afford because that's what they learned from their parents. My 2 sons have gotten things just like others (cell phones, new clothes, etc.), but I made sure that they waited until they could appreciate what was given to them. Most college kids want Obama for president because they want change NOW. My son goes to Hofstra Law and says he will vote for Obama because Obama understands the younger generation. We had quite a debate going on here...but like I told my son "when Obama can't and won't even try to prove that he was born in the United States, that there is something definitely wrong here". Like my mother said on her dying bed 6 years ago "there are going to be a lot of changes in this world". People were living the high life while my family just made it month by month. My mother also said that day "the people higher on the ladder will fall harder than the people who actually worked for their money and appreciated every dollar" I'm glad that I didn't give in and buy a beamer just because I wanted one. It's time that the people who wanted everything NOW and went out and charged and borrowed, pay the piper. It sucks, but I guess I will be paying for the people who lived so lavishingly the past 6 years.

I am sorry that you feel this way. NM
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I would feel the same about it either way.
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Here's how they feel. (sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

They do have plenty of courage. It is many in the general public who do not. That is the point. The military and their families are fighting this war, while the rest of the country lives as though there is no war at all.

thank you for that :-) I feel the same (nm)
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... sm
I guess, out of the goodness of our Democratic hearts, we will have to drag you kicking and screaming with us to a new and better world. No hard feelings!

I mean feel sorry for Just the Big Bad.nm
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... nm
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Wow - thanks - you said everything I feel
And you haven't been bashed yet? Now that's surprising.

I feel sorry for you and the way you think.
I made an honest assessment, as I don't post here often.

You just don't care to hear the truth about yourself.

I don't believe that. I just feel being over
here arguing about this whole thing will make some people lash out with words. But I would like for others to be respectful of our leaders we send to their country.

At least I don't think that is the majority of the way people feel. And I did not vote for the man. I was against this particular war and felt he went after the wrong people. Yet, I still wanted him to be respected.

Oh don't feel sorry for me....

and please don't pray for me either you self-rightous weirdo!

So? Even if you feel this way, it is okay
nm

You have every right to feel that way

as, obviously, it reflects your political bent.

I feel the same way.
This contracts should never have been in place in the first place, but what right does government have to take it away now?

Oh WOW.....I feel so much better now!!!
now that the government is offering emotional support for our tough economic times..................THAT THEY CAUSED!!!!!

If I did not feel
That you were truly mentally disturbed, I would so take you down on that post. I might anyway later. For now I'll just grab another stick, need a sharper one.

He may be yours, but a lot of us don't feel this way
You know the same way people said President Bush is not my president. He may be in the position (and I am one big baffoon for helping him get there) - please don't hold that against me everyone. I was blindly voting for a man I knew nothing about, but then I put down the kool-aid and woke up. Some of us are like that. Haven't been fully dumbed down. You may call him your president and that is fine, but he aint mine. Just like B. Clinton we will have another guy sitting in the office pretending. BTW - He is not in charge of the military. The people in charge of the military are the generals and commanders. Your lord is neither of them.

And now we should all feel sorry

for all the "anchor" babies in this country............. CNN seems to feel so sorry for them. We might "pull families apart", actually believing that all the illegals' children are legal citizens, therefore, we would pull the families apart if we deported the parents.

NO YOU IGNORANT WOMAN........... those children are anchor babies, not legal citizens. They are illegal and their parents are illegal!!

Anchor babies went from 2.7 MILLION in 2003 to 4 MILLION in 2008 and who the heck do you think takes care of them all! And please don't tell me they all got jobs and ALL making a living for themselves!!! BULL!!!

The parents should be deported home and take their children with them..... the children are NOT U.S. citizens!!!!

If you truly feel that
the only reason we protested was because we have a black president in the White House.....well....then you are a bigger dumb@ss than I thought. And please spare me the BS about how rude I am for calling you a dumb@ss because it is no different than people calling us teabaggers. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

I almost feel sorry for them . . . . .
it must be scary to know you're a dying breed, destined to go the way of the dinosaurs!! I guess I would be filled with bitterness, too. LOL

Feel that way sometimes too, but right now, more
nm

I actually feel the same way that both

of you do as far as church goes. I don't mind attending church but I personally feel that churches can be and are corrupt to a certain extent. I've backed away from attending church actually. I haven't been in quite some time. As much as I want my boys to believe in God, I truly do feel that religion is a personal choice that everyone has to make for themself. I can see where some Christians and some churches have turned people away with their actions and attitudes. I personally feel that is why my husband is an atheist because his first wife was a professing Christian and not only did she cheat on him but she walked out on their 4 y/o son they had together only to come back later, try and sweep it all under the rug, and continue her holier than thou art attitude. Some Christians are responsible for turning others away from God.

Just listen to the anamosity from certain posters on this board and how they talk about Christians. They obviously have run into some very bad ones and have prejudged and stereotyped us all into that group which isn't true. Just like all Muslims aren't extremists. All Christians are Bible thumping hypocrits either.

I actually feel the same way that both