Um no, Palin spoke and did herself in.... didn't you hear her? sm
Posted By: Mrs. M on 2009-01-20
In Reply to: Palin was unfairly personally attacked by the really - sick liberal crowd. Glad to be on other side.nm
No media, even intelligent media, could make up what she said. She said ignorant statements out of her own mouth, rallying the crowds and saying Obama pals around with terrorists. She ruined any chances McGeezer had, not that he had much of a chance but you MUST know that she has hurt the republican party, except for the most ignorant of them.
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Ah yes, but what we didn't see and hear....sm
...that is the question. What we didn't see and hear.
My goodness, me. Where to begin, with what little there was open to us.....
Karzai looked absolutely enchanted with her, and so must have been quite taken with what she had to say.
I didn't quite see her very long with the Columbian prez, so not sure about him...but....
Did you see Henry Kissinger with her? The old guy was looked like he couldn't get enough time with her, and I haven't seen him grin so widely in ages.
And Bill Clinton sounds like he's changed sides, he's so taken with her (go figure on that one....)
Methinks the Governor has the chops to handle the big boys.
Yessirreebob.
Didn't you hear - they lost
No need to keep kicking her when she's down. Leave the lady alone. She did a fine job, energized the party and had the experience and knowledge. Sorry she wasn't the "suit" everyone thinks you have to be to be in Washington.
Maybe you should stick with posting postive things you think Obama is going to do. I haven't found any post yet with positive issues Obama will do for the country. Just the same ol Hope, change & yes we can. But no explanation of actual issues. Except for the tax increases he will oppose.
Gov. Palin is on her way back to Alaska. Don't worry, you don't have to see her anymore. Let's move on.
Didn't I hear some senators say that passage of....sm
the "bail out" would not preclude bringing those people criminally responsible to justice? I am for that. Let's see if either candidate steps up to the plate and advocates that now that the bail out has passed.
Media didn't have to do a thing....everyone could hear
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You didn't hear Ms O talk about his clothes on the View?
of his worn out shoe soles? O pays for his own clothes (he can afford it, after all).
I didn't hear the boos, darn... what does wheelchair have to do with it? sm
He is a criminal whether he is jogging or in a wheelchair.
Maybe Palin didn't know yet that her daughter was pregnant when
That is a possibility. The daughter might have tried to hide it until she started showing. I don't know the circumstances around Palin and don't pretend to know, but I knew of girls in high school with me who hid it from their parents well into their 5th or 6th month. Not until they started showing did they tell.
Palin, so much to hate! I didn't see the message sm
you refer to but I will look for it. She is a caricature of a person.
Palin didn't speak about witchcraft; the pastor
Boo! Scared ya with that scary word, 'witchcraft', huh. The fanatical religious right are scared of their own shadows.
I like Palin and am proud to share her genitals...er...wait...that didn't come out quite right, d
hahahahaha
He also spoke of h-e-ll
and the repercussions of not accepting him as Christ. He also flat out told the pharisees that they were going to h-e-ll for what they were doing. He didn't just preach love. He told people how it was. He warned us that there is a h-e-ll and people go there. You can't teach the good without the bad.
Huckabee spoke about this the other day
He said a very astute financial guy with decades of eperience had noticed a very unusual trend in the market last week; that every day at the same time late in the day, the market would begin selling off huge volumes, just in time where it could not rebound and then this would start again the next day, with no rebound gain. He questioned economic terrorism then.
And it did make us wonder then if this thing was being manipulated. When the government over the weekend began singing how they were going to put money in the banks that was a big sign for me that there may be something to the suspicions. This gave governments an exception to buy into banks, thereby starting the ball of socialism. Government should never ever be involved in banks like this.
I don't think for a moment this has anything to do with not paying China off because China has been hacking into the World Trade Bank in Europe for over a year.... a year! And their people can't keep them out. So, that tells me China has been involved in this manipulation for a long time. They managed to get very private financial documents with loan information and procurements on them that would allow them to really manipulation behind the scenes with all that information they have.
I don't doubt China has EVERYTHING to do with this. But if we keep buying more of their junk and refuse to buy anything but their junk, then we have no one to blame but ourselves. We should start demanding our government NOT import any more goods from China and that our companies going over there to save taxes be given tax exemptions ONLY if they bring all their business back to this country.
When I was growing up, my great aunts always said keep us out of the United Nations and don't do business with communist countries or we would regret it one day. They were right!
Obama spoke himself about
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The people spoke
The Supreme Court over-ruled their decision. They were given another opportunity to make their voices heard and rejected the legality of gay marriage a second time.
This is the democratic process at work: the majority rules. Funny how quickly that goes by the wayside when the liberal shoe is on the other foot.
I'm glad you spoke your mind.
You've got more guts than I do. They would have definitely gotten a dirty look from me, but I wouldn't have had the courage to say what I felt.
I hope they weren't able to "snare" too many impressionable young people with false promises and other lies.
Did you hear that they're even telling would-be recruits how to pass drug screen tests so that they can still get into the military even if they're on drugs? I don't think there's anything they WON'T do or say to meet recruitment quotas.
seems to me thousands spoke this weekend
Seems to me most of the country takes Cindy Sheehan seriously and are behind her 100%. This weekends protests in DC, CA, NY, Ohio and other states prove it..When you look at the anti war protests compared to the pro war protests, tells you what the majority of the country wants..ending of the Iraq war.
A Kaydie clone just spoke!
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someplace where they spoke English
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The mayor of Chicago also spoke this...sm
morning explaining the need for city employee layoffs.
The people spoke with their vote.
Changes should happen slowly to ensure we really want those changes to be put into place and to give time for any and all actions to be ordered.
It was voted on. It was a legitimate vote.
I think it sends a clear message that everyone is not ready for this type of change yet.
It's our (those who support Prop 8) country, too.
Well, if they spoke, that means I drop
everything and bow to people who do not have the last word on what the administration does.
From the way Fitzgerald spoke in the press conference...sm
S. Libby has A LOT to be worried about. It seems he's a bald face liar, and I think what would be interesting to find out is why would he lie and say he didn't even know who Plame was under oath having been briefed on her at least 4 times before coming to court. I smell smoke...
Exactly. After Galloway spoke out they tied him to al Qaeda. sm
Of course, the man must be a terrorist sympathizer because he has the guts to tell it like it is. Just like they call you an antisemite when you say anything about Israel, conspiracy theorist and nut bag, etc., if you speak out against Bush. See the pattern?
McCain has spoke ad nauseam about Keating 5
Get over it already!
The corrupt ACORN bunch are still at it and Obama is backing them every inch of the way. They are his push into office don't ya know?
You're going to be blasted..you spoke against Obama
sad but true
Color me blind but name a case in which a republican spoke out...sm
and liberals started calling and threatening his life. I'm sure it happens but can you think of a case right off hand?
BTW, if you post it on the conservative board I'll read it there.
the moral majority spoke in CA but that isnt good enough
They banned it, voted against it. The state of CA spoke but the gays are not happy with that and have to march. They will push and push till they get their way. Whether it is against God or not. what a shame. 
Bill Ayers spoke at Millersville University in PA
Yesterday. This is a college that prepares students for teaching jobs. You can see part of his speech here:
http://www.wgal.com/video/18971823/index.html
There was a one-on-one interview with him at:
http://www.wgal.com/video/18971823/index.html
Hear, hear! He is an exceptional person for an ....sm
exceptionable time. They say that God is watching us from a distance and I believe that is true. I think that Obama has a good pure heart, extraordinary intelligence, does truly want to improve our lives, and my prayers are with him. How about that he has Bobby Kennedy's desk (my hero).
No, not making it up...watched him as he spoke, no tele, no speech prepared.
Stock Market diving since Obama spoke today.
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Janeane Garofalo spoke today. Glad she represents
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Sarah Palin fans are as whack as Palin.
Even John McCain's top adviser referred to Sarah Palin as a whack job.
Hear ye, hear ye. We don't want to be scared.
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Vote McCain and Palin! -oh and why does Palin
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Palin over Biden any day. Make fun of Palin all you
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I didn't miss any part and didn't say...
anything either way. I just posted a link.
Sarah Palin makes Sarah Palin look stupid!
The Democrats did not make Sarah Palin look stupid. Sarah Palin does a fine job of looking stupid without help from anyone. All she has to do is open her mouth!
This is the reason we are in Iraq and it's the same reason I didn't vote for him in 2000: Didn't
his own personal reasons.
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050620/why_george_went_to_war.php
The Downing Street memos have brought into focus an essential question: on what basis did President George W. Bush decide to invade Iraq? The memos are a government-level confirmation of what has been long believed by so many: that the administration was hell-bent on invading Iraq and was simply looking for justification, valid or not.
Despite such mounting evidence, Bush resolutely maintains total denial. In fact, when a British reporter asked the president recently about the Downing Street documents, Bush painted himself as a reluctant warrior. "Both of us didn't want to use our military," he said, answering for himself and British Prime Minister Blair. "Nobody wants to commit military into combat. It's the last option."
Yet there's evidence that Bush not only deliberately relied on false intelligence to justify an attack, but that he would have willingly used any excuse at all to invade Iraq. And that he was obsessed with the notion well before 9/11—indeed, even before he became president in early 2001.
In interviews I conducted last fall, a well-known journalist, biographer and Bush family friend who worked for a time with Bush on a ghostwritten memoir said that an Iraq war was always on Bush's brain.
"He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," said author and Houston Chronicle journalist Mickey Herskowitz. "It was on his mind. He said, 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.' He went on, 'If I have a chance to invade…, if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency.'"
Bush apparently accepted a view that Herskowitz, with his long experience of writing books with top Republicans, says was a common sentiment: that no president could be considered truly successful without one military "win" under his belt. Leading Republicans had long been enthralled by the effect of the minuscule Falklands War on British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's popularity, and ridiculed Democrats such as Jimmy Carter who were reluctant to use American force. Indeed, both Reagan and Bush's father successfully prosecuted limited invasions (Grenada, Panama and the Gulf War) without miring the United States in endless conflicts.
Herskowitz's revelations illuminate Bush's personal motivation for invading Iraq and, more importantly, his general inclination to use war to advance his domestic political ends. Furthermore, they establish that this thinking predated 9/11, predated his election to the presidency and predated his appointment of leading neoconservatives who had their own, separate, more complex geopolitical rationale for supporting an invasion.
Conversations With Bush The Candidate
Herskowitz—a longtime Houston newspaper columnist—has ghostwritten or co-authored autobiographies of a broad spectrum of famous people, including Reagan adviser Michael Deaver, Mickey Mantle, Dan Rather and Nixon cabinet secretary John B. Connally. Bush's 1999 comments to Herskowitz were made over the course of as many as 20 sessions together. Eventually, campaign staffers—expressing concern about things Bush had told the author that were included in the manuscript—pulled the project, and Bush campaign officials came to Herskowitz's house and took his original tapes and notes. Bush communications director Karen Hughes then assumed responsibility for the project, which was published in highly sanitized form as A Charge to Keep.
The revelations about Bush's attitude toward Iraq emerged during two taped sessions I held with Herskowitz. These conversations covered a variety of matters, including the journalist's continued closeness with the Bush family and fondness for Bush Senior—who clearly trusted Herskowitz enough to arrange for him to pen a subsequent authorized biography of Bush's grandfather, written and published in 2003.
I conducted those interviews last fall and published an article based on them during the final heated days of the 2004 campaign. Herskowitz's taped insights were verified to the satisfaction of editors at the Houston Chronicle, yet the story failed to gain broad mainstream coverage, primarily because news organization executives expressed concern about introducing such potent news so close to the election. Editors told me they worried about a huge backlash from the White House and charges of an "October Surprise."
Debating The Timeline For War
But today, as public doubts over the Iraq invasion grow, and with the Downing Street papers adding substance to those doubts, the Herskowitz interviews assume singular importance by providing profound insight into what motivated Bush—personally—in the days and weeks following 9/11. Those interviews introduce us to a George W. Bush, who, until 9/11, had no means for becoming "a great president"—because he had no easy path to war. Once handed the national tragedy of 9/11, Bush realized that the Afghanistan campaign and the covert war against terrorist organizations would not satisfy his ambitions for greatness. Thus, Bush shifted focus from Al Qaeda, perpetrator of the attacks on New York and Washington. Instead, he concentrated on ensuring his place in American history by going after a globally reviled and easily targeted state run by a ruthless dictator.
The Herskowitz interviews add an important dimension to our understanding of this presidency, especially in combination with further evidence that Bush's focus on Iraq was motivated by something other than credible intelligence. In their published accounts of the period between 9/11 and the March 2003 invasion, former White House Counterterrorism Coordinator Richard Clarke and journalist Bob Woodward both describe a president single-mindedly obsessed with Iraq. The first anecdote takes place the day after the World Trade Center collapsed, in the Situation Room of the White House. The witness is Richard Clarke, and the situation is captured in his book, Against All Enemies.
On September 12th, I left the Video Conferencing Center and there, wandering alone around the Situation Room, was the President. He looked like he wanted something to do. He grabbed a few of us and closed the door to the conference room. "Look," he told us, "I know you have a lot to do and all…but I want you, as soon as you can, to go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way…"
I was once again taken aback, incredulous, and it showed. "But, Mr. President, Al Qaeda did this."
"I know, I know, but…see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred…" …
"Look into Iraq, Saddam," the President said testily and left us. Lisa Gordon-Hagerty stared after him with her mouth hanging open.
Similarly, Bob Woodward, in a CBS News 60 Minutes interview about his book, Bush At War, captures a moment, on November 21, 2001, where the president expresses an acute sense of urgency that it is time to secretly plan the war with Iraq. Again, we know there was nothing in the way of credible intelligence to precipitate the president's actions.
Woodward: "President Bush, after a National Security Council meeting, takes Don Rumsfeld aside, collars him physically and takes him into a little cubbyhole room and closes the door and says, 'What have you got in terms of plans for Iraq? What is the status of the war plan? I want you to get on it. I want you to keep it secret.'"
Wallace (voiceover): Woodward says immediately after that, Rumsfeld told Gen. Tommy Franks to develop a war plan to invade Iraq and remove Saddam—and that Rumsfeld gave Franks a blank check.
Woodward: "Rumsfeld and Franks work out a deal essentially where Franks can spend any money he needs. And so he starts building runways and pipelines and doing all the necessary preparations in Kuwait specifically to make war possible."
Bush wanted a war so that he could build the political capital necessary to achieve his domestic agenda and become, in his mind, "a great president." Blair and the members of his cabinet, unaware of the Herskowitz conversations, placed Bush's decision to mount an invasion in or about July of 2002. But for Bush, the question that summer was not whether, it was only how and when. The most important question, why, was left for later.
Eventually, there would be a succession of answers to that question: weapons of mass destruction, links to Al Qaeda, the promotion of democracy, the domino theory of the Middle East. But none of them have been as convincing as the reason George W. Bush gave way back in the summer of 1999.
Do you hear yourself?
You drive even other Democrats off this board. There hasn't been logical debate here in weeks. You have no idea how you appear on the conservative board. Like a bunch of grade schoolers. They have stayed away from the most part from here, but you have not afforded them the same courtesy. And yet you think YOU have taken the higher ground. It's just amazing your lack of insight into your own behavior. Just as you were accused, so was I. By one of YOU. Unbelieveable.
My God, do you hear yourself? NM
You won't hear that in the MSM!
Thanks for posting the article!
So what I hear you saying is...
...that you're terribly proud of youself because when you beat up on people and they bite back at you that you don't whine about it? And also that you beat up on the libs because of their feelings about the troops and the war. Seems like you lash out indiscriminately on this board without really knowing what most folks believe.
And you are deceitful in saying I saw someone on the conservative board being wished to die and burn in hell once. ACtually I wrote the post you refer to and that is NOT what I wrote. Do you recall the game folks play at parties where a story is whispered in the ear of one person after another and then the story is read as it started out and then read as it ended up? And then everyone marvels over how much it changed? Well, that's what has happened here. So you are lying when you provide a quote of that post as the truth.
I did not hear this but it was probably said
in reference to global warming, not Bush, causing more numerous and more severe hurricanes. The water in the Gulf of Mexico is right now around 90 degrees Fahrenheit. The warmth of the water is what restrengthed the hurricane.
I hear ya.
Reading your post, I think you'd be shocked if you realized how close you came to describing MY life!
Do you hear yourself?
Talk about talking points...you were firing them like crazy yesterday. And again...the moderator has said over and over and over again anyone who wants to post on either board can. I guess at least the moderator still believes in free speech, even if liberals do not. Liberals, who profess to be tolerant, are the most INtolerant group I have ever seen (at least most of the ones who come here). You ask a question, counter a point, ask them to defend a belief, and they go nuts. At least you finally put the truth into words...separate. I guess that is what liberals want. Well, my friend, I have news for you. This is America. COnservatives have just as much right to be here as liberals. If you are firm in your beliefs, you should have no problem debating. There is 1 who posts here who still believes that conservatives have the same rights liberals do, and is able to look past idealistic rhetoric to get to the real truth of things. Extremely refreshing. As to bothered...you do not bother me at all. You have every right to say what you want to say....but you should not expect it to go unchallenged.
That is another thing I do not understand about liberals...and why live and let live rings hollow. What you really mean is....we live over here on this board and we let you live over there on that board and don't you DARE to come over to this board because we don't want you to live over here.
That is the definition of intolerant...segregation.
I hear ya, DW....
but it does seem like the Republicans recognize those in their midst who claim to be Republican but their actions do not follow...and they call them out on it. RINOs. Obviously there are those on the liberal side as well. Makes sense there would be. It is just that I have never seen them separate themselves before...especially to the extent of a couple of posters who answered my question a couple of weeks ago. Very interesting. And actually very encouraging.
I hear what you are saying....
and I agree it would be difficult. You are right; the statistics I find say that 40% of the "convenience abortions" are not the first or even the second abortion for the woman. That being the case, I am not content to say because it would be hard to sort out, just go ahead and kill'em all anyway. So I will continue to vote for a man who will at least take a stab at trying to fix it.
And so myself and others with agree to disagree...and some of us will agree, at least, that abortion is wrong but fixing it won't be easy...
God bless!
Not that you want to hear from me, but...
actually I did watch it. From a completely objective viewpoint, just looking at the performance and content per se, I agree with you. Hillary, I thought, was much stronger and did not let the others run over her like before. Again, objectively, I think Obama talked too much, meaning, took forever to get to his point and the way he delivers things might go over the heads of some people, or they stop listening waiting for the point. Biden was strong, and he looks presidential, and to some people that is really important. I know Hillary is not a tall person, and I know Obama is, but it was really striking in a couple of the shots...she really had the head back so she could look up at him and he had the head down ya-yaing at her. Just an observation. But I think she handled herself well. As much flak as Hillary has gotten over the driver's licenses to illegals thing, I thought the way she answered the question if she was for it, was priceless...after Obama went on and on, she just said "No." I think that was a bit of a coup DE grace for her, as an objective "observer." lol
How sad to hear that....
This country was founded on a belief of being "free", allowing freedom from government involvement and corruption. Obama has stated he wants bigger government, more government to tell you how to act/feel/breath, all at your expense. Now, where is the freedom in that? Taxation, taxation, taxation.....it is sad to hear citizens of the US say they would rather be a socialist than fascist, when what one should be saying is I don't want government in my life at all...period!!!
No, what I am saying is if I want to hear anything about the ...
conservative side of things along with the liberal/Democrat side of things, Fox is the only alternative. Democrats/liberals are not the only people who tell the "Truth." So far I have not caught Fox in an outright lie, and they chose NOT to run that ad about Obama and Ayers that the guy in Texas made up, which I thought was fair, and if they were indeed as they are described here they would be running it every hour. Geez.
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