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Totally! Personally, I would "smack" the politicians first, they are supposed to be "publi

Posted By: Cyndiee on 2009-02-28
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She took it personally because she was attacked personally. Plain and simple.

Where did you get your debating skills?  On the south side of Chicago in some street gang?  Because if you did, it shows.


In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks.  Yet, that's all you people know how to do.  You can't stay on the issue.  You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years.  In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity. 


As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you.  Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers).  If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker.  You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere.  It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn. 


As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found.  Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time.  Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums.  Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.


Have a pleasant evening.


So Christians aren't supposed to political? Or we aren't supposed to let our morality, faith

our conscience guide us politically?


I'm sorry, that is a separation I cannot make.  My faith and religious convictions are part of the whole person that I am.  I vote my conscience.  I want political leaders who reflect my morality.  I also happen to believe there are many Christians out there like me.  There is no "separation" of church and state for me, which by the way was a concept (nowhere specifically mentioned in the constitution) meant to protect the church from the government more so than the government from the church.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with that commercial.  There are condom commercials, "personal" lubricant commercials, and penis and sexual performance enhancing commercials -- why would anyone be offended by a pro-life commercial?  The fact that anyone would be offended is a testament to just how twisted society has become!


Politicians will dig up anything

negative they can about anyone running against them.  I'm sure we all remember the things said back and forth between Hill and Messiah Obama before they finally picked Master Obama.  It is all dirt flinging and back stabbing and promises they don't intend to keep.  I truly wish they would invent a BS monitor that would let us know when these politicians are really telling us the truth or whether they are, once again, feeding us a line of BS.


We always fall for the promises made during the campaign and then we see no results when that politician actually gets in office.  This is with all political parties and frankly I'm sick of it all. They waste all this money campaigning and smearing the other candidate as best as they can and in the end.....whoever wins still sticks it to the American people and those promises that were made are soon forgotten.


They are all politicians, they only know
how to talk like that, whatever party they are.
And why are all of you not politicians?
You people recite what you read! 
Like most politicians. LOL n/m
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not only the politicians,
people in general, especially when it comes to the Middle East.
Politicians - I don't trust ANY of them
Especially ones who will have anything to do with Clintons (both of them) or any of Clintons cabinet people.
they were as sincere as most politicians are ever - not
I have a very jaded view of our political system .. sorry

everything is calculated
everything is conniving
every move is planned and orchestrated by the "back room"

I've seen it ..

The Clintons did what they had to do to stay in the "power" positions in the Democratic party ... simple as that..

sorry ... JMHO

It's not just liberal politicians.
It's politicians in general. They're all so crooked they have to be screwed into the ground when they die. It's wrong to call prostitution the oldest profession because it's actually politicians that hold that title, although they are similar fields - they both screw people for money.
All politicians lie to get elected.

We are all fooling ourselves if we thing otherwise.  It is literally picking the lesser of two evils.  The one thing that I can say is that at least McCain makes decisions.  He votes instead of just voting present like Obama and when Obama actually has voted yes or no.....he has consistently said one thing and voted the exact opposite.  I just do not think he has the experience or the ability to make executive decisions.  I do not trust his associations and I do not have the same values as he does. 


All politicians are liars!
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All politicians are liars.
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Backwards politicians nm
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Greedy politicians/CEO's

 


As always, good to see you here...I remember reading when I was a kid that John F. Kennedy did not accept hjs salary as President; that he gave it back to the U.S. Guess since he was wealthy, he felt there was no need to take it.  Too bad we don't have that kind of individual in office now..


Since when do politicians support

a group or say they do and then turn around and crap on that group or break promises they made to that group.  I think that kind of goes hand in hand with politics.  LOL! 


Honestly, do you really think Barrack Obama is crapping on the homosexual community because he asked Rick Warren to do this?  It isn't changing any laws.  To me it looks like a liberal reaching his hand across the aisle to a conservative.  To me this shows that even though they may not have the exact same opinions, they can still do something together.  Isn't that what we are all about.  Reaching across the aisle to show that even though we don't agree, we can still work together.  Yet all people can see is this being a bashing session against gay people.


I don't agree with homosexuality.  However, if they want some kind of legal union.....whatever.  That is about as equal rights as I am going to lean for the gay community.  I have gay friends who have no problem leaving the definition of marriage between a man and woman.....as long as they can be joined together legally...that is all that matters to them.   I just feel that the ones who are trying to redefine marriage is dead wrong.  Leave marriage between a man and woman and give homosexuals some sort of legal union. 


This changing every tradition to accommodate every single minority group is what, in my opinion, is hurting our country.  All these minority groups want equal rights but in doing that.....they take away from the majority.  How much more should the majority have to sacrifice?


The idiots were the politicians!
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I know all politicians lie to get voted in.

However, this is not the time to be playing games with us.  A lot more people are watching what government is doing because of what happened last term.  Obama really smooth talked a lot of people.  I think a lot of people are starting to worry like some of the rest of us about his real intentions.  Too bad we couldn't get the rest of the kool-aid drinkers to get a clue.


I say that next election we vote someone in who is neither a pub or a dem.  Shake up the parties a bit and let them know that we are fed up with both parties!!!!!


And politicians have the audacity...
to tell bankers and CEOs of the big three how to spend their profits! At least they're using their own money, that they worked for!

It's absolutly disgusting that those politicians in DC think that they can have all these expenses at our expense! I love how they have parties and go off on weekend getaways that we pay for - I haven't had a vacation in years!!!

And the politicians talk about certain groups having a sense of entitlement - give me a break! They have the world's largest case of entitlement disease I've ever seen, starting with voting themselves an automatic raise every year! I thought raises were supposed to be for employees that were doing a good job!
I find most politicians on these shows

respond with rehearsed speech, or just do not answer the question. On Hardball, Chris will say answer the question, yes or no, over and over and over and whoever just goes off on whatever tangent.


 


Insurance companies and the politicians they buy..

Doesn't anybody in DC have a conscience?  The system as it stands now is disgusting.  They are literally making billions by killing of thousands upon thousands (maybe millions?) of Americans.  Anyone with half a brain should recognize profit-driven health insurance only serves the best interest of the CEOs of the insurance companies - not healthcare recipients! This needs to change NOW!


I saw my first AMA commercial last night urging people to vote with the millions of uninsured Americans in mind.  I loved it!  It is at least a step in the right direction.  Vote with the healthcare crisis in mind people!


You're right about both parties being politicians
and I guess it just boils down to a lesser of the two evils! This is such a simple thing, I just don't understand why you wouldn't just prove it to shut everyone up.
Very few politicians care about the people either.
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The Difference between Fish and Politicians

Some of you don't like Glenn Beck, but this video is really funny.


 


http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/m/22798848/show-and-tell.htm


Politicians and their love lives
aren't really important to me.  This guy didn't lie under oath about his affair.  Clinton did but I still really don't care.  There peckers and/or cigars aren't my concern.  I'm more concerned about how our country is being run and the money being spent, etc.  Affairs are things that happen too often.  I don't condone that type of behavior but they will have to pay the consequences for their actions.  More important issues to discuss than this.
You gotta love them greedy politicians!
'No, no, it's the wrong thing for our country to take money from taxpayers like that!'

'But, if you're gonna do it anyway, I'll take some!'

Just confirms my belief that they should all be thrown out on their rears!
stop comparing politicians to fish!
Everyone knows referring to Trout Pout is a subtle racial insult!
Unfortunately, many politicians stopped caring a looong
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Liberal politicians will NEVER do anything about illegal aliens...
because among all the OTHER illegal things illegals do, they VOTE. And THAT is their value to the liberal left. Keep the poor poor and beholden (and force as many of us into that bracket as they can), illegals with benes...their voting base. They would sing a different tune if you had to prove citizenship to vote...if illegals were stopped from voting their "champions" would disappear like rats deserting a sinking ship. It's all about the power and keeping it...have we learned nothing? The best way to control people is to keep them dependent. Obama knows that. He has studied it his entire adult life. And you have given him the keys to the country. Laughable if not so sad.
King funeral--just another money shot for politicians
and opportunity for all politicians involved to bloviate ad nauseum. The whole thing went on forever. Reminds me of the old Appalachian mountain funerals where there were five or six preachers and each one had to see who could out preach the other.

Everybody had to get their money shot (especially Clinton and Carter) and to me it was sad to see a bunch of politicans and so-called religious leaders take advantage a good woman's funeral just to make their political hay.

Goes to show that you can't even die anymore without it being shrouded in politics.
A lot of politicians on both sides changed their views on the war once the truth came out. nm
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Wow, my post was totally and completely respectful and yours is totally and completely not. sm
what a surprise.  Can't stand to be corrected or proven wrong, can you.  Have to call everyone a liar, don't you.  Got to tell people to stick things somewhere, don't you.   TSK TSK TSK  Anger management might be helpful.
And I was supposed to know this how exactly?
You assume I know this by what means? Osmosis.  Of course, this is a tragedy.  I have know tragedy.  Again, I ask, what makes you think we cannot relate?   Your gross overreaction is disturbing to the extreme.  How, in fact, does one extend condolences without knowing the circumstances?  And why do you and Carla assume no one else has tragedy?  Who owes who an apology? 
They are supposed to be. nm
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And I am supposed to take ....sm
"Just the big bad" to be a reliable source? You are anonymous, why should I trust you? But, I will do a little more checking around and see what I can find.

FWIW, I don't believe I have ever mentioned the LA Times before this prior post as I really do believe that a journalist has the right to not divulge their source. HOWEVER, I do not believe that any politician has the right to squelch potentially incriminating evidence from the public. This, in my opinion, is government getting bigger by the minute.
You are supposed to be an MT
and supposed to know how to spell
So, exactly how is anyone supposed...(sm)

to distinguish you in particular as not being a pub when you use no moniker? 


Well how else was he supposed to

pay for all the spending his administration is doing?  I hope this is the final nail in his coffin so to speak.  Remember when Bush #1 said read my lips...no new taxes and he went back on the promise and wasn't re-elected.  Well....let us hope that the 95% of Americans that he professed to not have ANY kind of taxes raised on them will get p!ssed and we can say goodbye to Mr. Obama in 2012. 


Sorry. This was supposed to be in response to LOL
Someone should actually read an article before saying untrue things about it.  But that doesn't surprise me.  It's in line with the way this administration lies about everything.
Was supposed to say didn't see any
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Yes, and I thought they were supposed to be

And these are supposed to be our allies...nm

That's what the troops are supposed to be doing
The key word is *securing.*  It's an extreme exaggeration to say that the U.S. was supporting Hezbollah by making sure a Suni and Shiite combined rally did not get out of hand, but it's par for the course of for the dramaticists known as the mainstream media.  Poor and misleading reporting is what they specialize in.
what in the world is this supposed to mean? nm
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Exactly......since when is RICH supposed to be
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Aren't you supposed to be
working right now for the worst Transcriptionist company in the world, MQ/Cbay? Get back to work and spare us your opinion.
Whoops...supposed to be a lot
of people and not I lot of people. 
And these are supposed to be grownup
adults, working MTs. I have never in my life (and that be 6+ decades) seen so much hate and bitterness rolled up in someone! I sure hope they don't be transcribing my medical records while in this state of mind!! And, just for the record, I am a registered Democrat, not that I am proud of it, nor that I voted it. These posts, however, have nothing to do with politics, just personal attacks, childish at that.
Well we were supposed to be "privy"
but that didn't happen, remember? Didn't have anytime at all to read those 1200 something pages.
Isn't that the way it's SUPPOSED to work?

Obama outlines the mission to his military leaders, relies upon their input, and, if in his judgment the plan sounds good, he says "okay."


During the last eight years, Bush (who had his "mission" in mind long before 9/11 happened) insisted on invading and occupying Iraq, and every single military leader that advised AGAINST Bush's plan was fired by Bush, right down to Rumsfeld at the very end.   This is NOT how it's supposed to be.  The Bush way was the wrong way, which is one of the reasons people were (still are) so upset with him.


Okay...so all this money is supposed

to help us.  So when does it start?  Where has all that money gone?  So far I've seen nothing but our government take control of more and more things and want to institute more government programs to tell us what we can do with our money.  That is what YOU don't seem to get.  As for the GOP....they are crooks just like the crats.  None of them care unless they are in power and that is all either party wants and that is something that amazingly both pubs and crats don't see  because they are too blinded by their party lines. 


And for the last time....I understand that this didn't just happen during Obama's watch.  In fact, a lot of this crap started way back in ole Bill's administration but all you seem to remember is everything is Bush's fault.  I admit....he had both greedy hands in the cookie jar but if you are going to hold him accountable, you need to look at so many other politicians than just him because a lot of them had their grubby little hands in the cookie jar of greed. 


You have people like Barney Frank who made money off of Freddie and Fannie and him telling us that they were completely sound right before they took a huge nose dive. Then we have Dodd who got money from AIG, got sweetheart loans through them and slipped in the bonuses for AIG for congress to pass.  You have Clinton who pushed for high-risk loans, etc.  There are just so many people who you can point the fingers at here.


As for these bailouts and pork bills that are supposed to help us, how in the dickens are we supposed to pay off this deficit?  The only way is to raise taxes and you can't just do it on the rich because even they can't afford it all.  Obama will raise everyone's taxes....mark my words.  He may want to help others by healthcare, but he is going to cause many more to go under when he gets cap n trade passed like he wants to.  That will hurt so many people.


I'm tired of Obama going to every country and apologizing.  What the heck do we have to apologize to the French for?  It if wasn't for us, they'd be speaking German right now.  I mean.....come on. 


As for the liberals outnumbering the conservatives.......I highly doubt that considering that Fox News ratings are way higher than any liberal media's ratings are.