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Posted By: Administrator (sm) on 2005-08-27
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To be clear, IP addresses can only be seen by the Administrator and I do not give IP information to anyone.

As well, when you enter your email address, it is not revealed to anyone who sends to you. The only way the sender would be able to find out is if YOU reply to them.

Again, ISP/IP information is not available to the public on this site and only I have access to that information.

If you have specific questions, feel free to email me.

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Do you have inside information on IP addresses!!! How is that possible!!!

What is going on here! I can't believe this!!!!!

Sound familiar?

No, the administrator is not giving me any information, nor would I ask. sm
I made a rejoiner when you once again accused me of something I didn't do (see above posts). Have you got all the meat off this bone yet!

if they give wrong information sm
that is easy to verify. If they are lying, then they should be taken back in and given twice as much torture. They will tell the truth eventually.

So much for transparency. Treasury refuses to give bank bailout information.

This again from the McClatchy news group, which is not conservative by any means:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/65195.html

Homeless addresses
I just heard that the homeless can claim a park bench as their address so they can vote!!!!

Here is the e-mail addresses.
E-mail MTStars:

Administrator: admin@mtstars.com
Webmaster: webmaster@mtstars.com
Support: support@mtstars.com

see link inside for all addresses...SM
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

I don't, but the administrator does and knows who is who and who is not. sm
Get the picture?

Please administrator
Administrator, we have been invaded on a daily basis by conservative posters who attack and fight over anything we post. Now this, southern gal, what she is posting is conservative items, not liberal. Could you please remind the conservatives to be respectful of posting on the liberal board.

maybe administrator needs to see it
Maybe it needs to be reported to the administrator/monitor, like they would do to us.

administrator
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GO ADMINISTRATOR!
I loved your clarification! It was right on!

IPs can only be seen by the Administrator of this site.
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the administrator, not the posters
I did not say I have information on IP addresses..I suggested to the conservatives if they think I am constantly posting with other handles than my own, they could contact the administrator and ask her to check the IP address of the posts the conservatives keep saying I am posting under and it would prove I ONLY POST UNDER GT, NO OTHER HANDLE..Those other posters are NOT ME..The administrator of this site of course can check IP addresses..NOT US, the administrator..

Administrator has decreed

That on the liberal board we are not allowed to say negative things about the current president. On the other hand, if it's a former president you can really go to town. You may call Clinton a serial rapist, you may call Carter any number of ugly names. However, Bush is strictly off limits.

Probably why no one posts very much.

FYI.

Yes. Someone must have run to the administrator again and complained that she was being treated the

The height of hypocrisy.

The administrator did not say we could not post on other boards. sm
She said to be respectful. Tell me where in my post I was disrespectful. Why not get off of this and start an intelligent debate instead of whole threads crying about being kicked out of the sandbox.

The administrator came on ONCE not REPEATEDLY and she came on all boards.
She did not say to stay off the boards. She said not to slam posters. Now, if you can manage to take a second of your time and check out the conservative board, you will see the same thing is taking place there. The only difference is that they are not whining about it. Get real.

Administrator: I am at a lost as to your statement...sm
And realize I am only trying to understand what is going on here. Both boards have had their fair share of attacks, but there is rarely a day that goes by that it does not happen on this board.

That said, when you say no *slurs* against the president that leaves a lot unsaid. Are you instructing us not to speak unfavorable to the president on forumatrix?

If this is a pro-Bush forum then I would be wasting my energy to come here. I missed the posts that got this started so again realize I am trying to understand what is going on here.

The administrator requested there be no bashing on this board and you are most certainly

When we libs bash on your board we get banned. When you cons bash on our board you get away with it.

Either way, we were requested by the owner multiple times not to bash on either board. Yet you continue. Why?

I don't know why the Administrator allows an INFLAMMATORY and IRRESPONSIBLE posts like this!

There isn't ONE person on this board who has expressed ANY IOTA of a wish that anyone be killed, especially an MP. For you to say something that inflammatory

Bye, Administrator. You have refused to control them, and your trolls have won.

You've been unable or unwilling to control these pests. They refuse to stay on their own Conservative board because they're not happy unless they are personally attacking posters.

I can't begin to speculate how many other people you've lost because of this hateful group, but you've lost me.

To any thinking, intelligent people out there who woul like to visit a GOOD site where abusive trolls can be IGNORED, please visit Bill Maher's site. The topics and information are limitless, freedom of speech is guaranteed for ALL, and although there are a few hateful people there, it's nothing compared to the hate and anger and rage that is found on this board. You don't have to be subjected to personal attacks in a street gang mentality that happens here because you can simply click the ignore button. All in all, I believe a truer, better representation of what America really is can be found there.

Bye, all.

Maybe the administrator will see fit to delete YOUR name-calling post.
NT

I am going to repost the Administrator's post regarding posts here. SM

This is word for word. If you cannot follow these rules, your posts will be deleted. If you have a problem, contact the administrator.

I will not tolerate continued slamming of the President and this country. Ask yourself what you're really gaining by doing so. My political affiliation has NO bearing on this whatsoever. I expect people to behave appropriately on all forums. ForuMatrix is a website that is open to the entire world, not just the US and I am ashamed of some of what I read knowing that people in other countries are reading it too. Don't think for a minute that I am only pointing out the Liberal board. Far from it. I've had to come down on some posters on the Conservatives board, too. So, what this all comes down to is that respectful posting will be adhered to or I won't allow posting. We need to go back to old fashioned VALUES, if we think that way then the words we write won't be as cutting. You may not agree with me and that is your prerogative and I am not trying to censor you, rather I would prefer that you and others post in kind and with respect.

You have been requested REPEATEDLY by the administrator to stay off this board.
....exceedingly simple rules as put forth by the owner of this board. Please tell me what the problem is. Is that part of being a conservative Republican?

I don't make the rules, Sir Percy. The Administrator was. The fact is. sm
I agree with you. But this board has a history and as you can see, on both boards, the minute an opposing point of view comes on board, the moderators are summoned. It's a fact. This used to be a combined board but it was separated because of constant insults and failure to behave as mature adults.

Feel free to direct your concerns to the Administrator. sm
You can reach the adminstrator at Admin@MTStars.com. As far as deleting, since the incident of several weeks ago, I have made a concerted effort on BOTH boards to keep the bashing to a minimum.

Administrator: Someone is filling our board with drug ad posts on page 3.
Hmm - none on the conservative board. Extreme Right wing conspiracy?

Sorry, CJ...it is not as clear to me as it is to you..
that John McCain wants to continue fighting anywhere. What John McCain understands is that you cannot reason with some people (including terrorists) because they have no interest in getting along. That is not their agenda. They want us dead and our way of life dead. That is not going to change by sitting down and talking to them.

Seriously, I believe that all the things that enable a person to endure such torture over an extended period of time builds character and traits that are essential to leadership. So if you put 5 years in a prison camp up next to 4 years as a senator (2 of those at state level) where you voted present when you voted...then yes. I think 5 years in a prison camp plus serving as a military officer and commanding hundreds of soldiers makes him more qualified than Obama on the face of it...at the very least, AS qualified. And, at the very least, it demonstrates to me that John McCain puts his country first, even before himself. And to me, friend, that speaks volumes.

Obviously I was not clear enough either...
you could always ask where someone stands on a ban on gay marriage without asking how they VOTED on an issue.

I have not seen that many people on this board who were really invested in gay marriage.

If you're not gay and you don't live there...not sure why it matters to you so much? What anyone thinks?

Oh no, you have been quite clear,

and throughout this discussion you have been very cordial (I do apologize for the momentary snapishness in my last post.) Nor in your most recent post did you sink to the level of saying 'I will type slower - or use smaller words - so you can understand.' However, when someone tells me that my argument lacks merit because I do not truly understand the problem or have not thought the implications through, it brings out a bit of bitchiness in me. It is the same reaction I have when I read posts on this board saying that those who listen to Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, etc., are being manipulated and not thinking for ourselves. (I actually consider myself a conservative, strangely enough.)

I think you do see and maybe even understand my point, as I see and feel I get where you are coming from. We see, but will have to agree to disagree.

I do not pretend that legalizing marijuana will make the world a better place, only that it will make our laws more consistent. The legality of alcohol and tobacco while marijuana remains illegal is very inconsistent. And I think the bottle no longer contains that particular genie (if it ever did). The criminalization of such behavior creates small criminals and enriches bigger criminals.

You say 'I wish no one took any mind-altering substances of any kind.' Does this mean you are a teetotaler and not somebody who enjoys a brewski on a summer day after mowing the lawn, maybe a glass of wine with dinner, as I do?

I think kids hear their government, teachers and parents painting marijuana as the 'demon killer weed' which opens the floodgates to all other substance abuse. Smoke a joint, die with a needle in your arm. Then they watch those same adults drink legal alcohol, smoke legal cigarettes, overuse prescription drugs and they see the entire thing as yet another example of extreme phoniness.

Maybe some people will try legalized marijuana who never did when it was illegal. Maybe, deprived of its mystique and the element of rebellion, fewer kids will need to act out in that particular way. If alcohol were illegal for everyone and their parents were committing a criminal act just to obtain it (which you know they would do) would fewer or more teenagers use it? If a kid walking into a 'speakeasy' were no more or less illegal than his parents doing it, what would be the result? Interesting question.

And now I am going to offer you something a woman seldom does - the last word. The final post can be yours. I've said my piece.

So clear this up for me
The man who rapes and kills a young child, but truly believes in Jesus, acknowledges that what he did was wrong and a violation of both God's law and man's law...this man gets into heaven. The Jewish man, who spent his life working hard, raising his family to be wonderful human beings, donated regularly to the American Heart Association, and volunteered his time in an inner city school in a literacy program...he is doomed?

And I refer to myself as a heathen because I believe that it is my character and the life I have lived here that will determine my entrance to heaven, not my belief in Jesus's death and resurrection. Of course, maybe I'm just pragmatic. Just in case the Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, or even the Native Americans have it right, I'd like to think I've still got a chance at getting past St. Peter or whoever their respective gatekepper is.

If it is all clear cut that
Pelosi told the truth and the CIA is, in fact, lying....why not just let the investigation go on so the dems could tell the GOP to stick it and prove once and for all who was involved and who is lying, etc. If Pelosi is telling the truth, which I highly doubt, there should be no reason to avoid an investigation.

Oh, I red you loud and clear

and "red" was not a spelling error. Strong arming anyone into producing anything for the government is like pre and post WWII Soviet Union....you got it right when you said red and I'm not referring red state conservatives either.

Many (not all) think you have all the answers, but when it turns to action you are ready to guilt and strong arm SOMEONE ELSE to do the work.

Yep...clear....said talking to me was
like talking to your mother who had a personality disorder. Bashing me and using your mother's illness to do it. Not many ways you can take it. YOU said it. YOU brought it up. This is YOUR can of worms.

I would like to clear up perhaps some confusion.....

About "socialized" medicine. What most of you may not know is that we already have socialized medicine. That is what Medicade and Medicare is (which is financially driven by insurance companies for insurance companies tell the government what they will pay. In essense, the insurance companies are setting the bar). Most countries have some sort of socialized medicine. Canada has what is referred to as single-pay medicine, which is soley funded by the government. Those opposed to single-pay medicine here in the US are the ones stating that it does not work. However, those who have it in Canada and Britain for the most part are not complaining. Of course, you can't please everyone.

For every $50,000 in income that you make about $10,000 of your tax dollars (equal to what is allocated for defense) is going toward healthcare. Add that along with roughly the $10,000 dollars that most companies pay for your insurance, that's quite a chunk of change. But you say, well the company is paying for it, not me. But that is wrong as well, if the companies whom we work for did not have to provide medical insurance for us, there would be higher wages.

So, for someone like me, a healthy 40 something :o), who spends about $1000 dollars a year in preventative health maintenance, why am I paying $20,000, which I might add that for any catastrophic healthcare issue should occur, I would still be desitute from the financial responsibility of picking up where my insurance company falls short? If this is not an argument for healthcare reform.....

Healthcare in the US is the hands of insurance companies, where I don't believe it should be. So for those of you opposed to socialized or single-pay medicine, you are already paying for it, why not make it function better and pull it out of the hands of the fat-cat insurance companies?

Let me be perfectly clear about what I said.

Since the poster above seems to think he/she can put words in my mouth, I will tell you exactly what I said.

I fully expect all posters to be respectful and not put down the President (current or past) or anyone else for that matter. I don't care if they're Liberal, Conservative, or polka dotted.

On the forum, you will be respectful in posting or you won't be allowed to post.

Think you can handle that? If you can't, don't post. It's just that simple.

Let me make something clear.
I am African American. I have never seen Africa. The human race originated on the continent of Africa. Now, what do you consider yourself? You can call yourself whatever you want. We want to be known as African American.

Let's make this a little more clear as well...
Both Obama and Biden voted to fund the bridge to nowhere and then voted to defund it. Who flipped first? biggg LOL.

Well, Howard Dean was governor of Vermont, right? Little old Vermont? Fewer folks than Alaska. His approval rating wasn't that high. He also ran for Presidential nomination. Only having been a governor of a state with population smaller than Alaska's. He is now the Chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Apparently Democrats only have problems with smaller population governors if they are Republican. That is a belly LOL.

Oh please...cheating? Have you done any research on how Obama had one of his early rivals for office kicked off the ticket so he would not have to run against her? Now THAT is cheating I can believe in. Because that was cheating in politics, not his personal life.

What McCain did in his personal life does not excuse Barack Obama for what he did in his public life. I don't care what either of them does in his personal life...what I care about is what they have done in their public life. McCain certainly keeps better company than Obama does...talk about "uglies." And they are not in the past.

I think we can retire the bridge to nowhere since Obama and Biden were for it before they were against it also. THEY voted with COngress to defund it, so she turned the money to other infrastructure projects that she felt Alaska needed more. Sounds like good judgment to me.

Don't understand the Wild West comment. "Maverick" was a term applied to cattle who refused to run with the herd.

Actually, you are rehashing the same old stuff and accusing her of rehashing old stuff. Does that mean you need a thesaurus also? Just asking.

The difference is clear.
No one is saying it's all 'we people' have to worry about. But it does give us a glance in to O's morals. Win at all cost. No matter who he has to betray in the process. Doesn't that concern you at all?

And I fail to see your correlation between Obama exploiting a bracelet he was not asked specifically NOT to, and McCain choosing a woman as his running mate. If Clinton had been O's running mate, what would your argument be then?

And I beg you to do a bit more research on exactly what O is proposing to do to the middle class. Just because someone tells you something, it doesn't mean you should believe it without checking the facts, especially from a man running for president.

It reminds me of grade school class president elections. There was always that 'popular kid' who didn't know jack but got everybody to vote for him by promising longer lunch periods and movies on friday and free pop in the lunch room. The difference is, we're not twelve anymore.

Forgive me for not being clear enough for you (sm)
I guess the simplified question for you would be -- why bring religion into a post that had nothing to do with religion?

I think it is perfectly clear

how things will go with regards to Obama. As evident by this board, I think it is very obvious that some people may hold back their "judgments" or concerns about Barrack Obama for the simple fact that any criticism aimed at the president thus far is construed as racism. How dare we criticize what he does, his agenda, etc. because he is the first mixed race president.

I also think that he will be judged less harshly because the liberal media will not cover things fairly. They will continue to portray Barrack Obama as the savior/rock star.

When this stimulus package fails to stimulate the economy and when our economy is still suffering at the end of his term, we will see how fairly he will be judged. Until then, he is getting a free pass by the liberal media and people too eager to throw out the race card or people who are too afraid to criticize for fear of being called racist.

Oh, I get it alright and it's becoming more clear by
--

Let me make myself emphatically clear
I'm not gay either closet or open. I really don't care if you believe that I'm not MT. No skin off my back, but calling someone gay just because they reply to someone's posts is really stretching it and only makes you look odd like you have some gay obssession yourself. No one was calling anyone gay until you arrived today.

It's perfectly clear to me what the context was, so if it's above you, then
x

Does anyone else see a clear and present danger?
L

Your comments were straightforward and clear.
I hope anyone reading this will go back and look at the post I quoted from, as well as all your other posts and form their own impressions.

This is one case where the Repubs are in the clear...
this is a Dem mess. Lay it right at the feet of Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and the dems who blocked reform on Fannie/Freddie at least 2 times when Alan Greenspan, John Snow, John McCain and the Bush admin telling them this exact thing was going to happen. It is all on video. I would cut them a modicum of slack if they at least admitted it, but oh no...it's all the republicans fault. Geez! How anyone could vote for ANY Democrat this round is beyond me. If I was a Democrat I wouldn't be voting for them either. At least 92 of them are worried about their jobs because the people are so PO'ed about it...they voted against it. And had Pelosi not come out BEFORE the vote tearing the hide of republicans in strips and blaming them for it yet again...she messed in her own nest. A bunch of Republicans weren't going to vote for it anyway, but the ones who would have didn't.

go to real clear politics
they have all the polls.

Yes, O made it clear he is not president
until January 20. Bush and his team are still in office and running the show until then. Which I already new about too.