To a great extent, it is Frank's fault, previous poster correct.
Posted By: Sorry you don't live up to your name... on 2009-01-20
In Reply to: It's Barney Frank's fault??!!??!! - Truthseeker
Barney Frank and the rest of the democrats in charge of Congress now, will be laughing at you, too....at all of us.
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It's Barney Frank's fault??!!??!!
Thanks for the laugh!
not previous poster but
I actually know several people of mixed race (black/white), who are openly racist against whites. Not saying that Obama is or isn't, but it can happen.
I'm not the previous poster but....(sm)
I personally know about a dozen people, friends and relatives, who fit her post.
I know more about Obama than any of them, but they don't give a darn who the real man is behind the facade that he chooses to show the world.
Not to mention the documentary made during the election made that shows Obama voters, who knew/know next to nothing about the man they had just voted for...and didn't care, even when things were pointed out to them.
Some people are so uninformed who voted for Obama. My mother, my sister-in-law included, just to name a few. They only voted the democrat party like they always did...could care less who the real Obama is.....
A previous poster asked who PNAC was. I answered. sm
They influence US and world policy, so believe they are definitely a threat. I first heard about the Illuminati in a Bible study class. Thought everyone knew about them. You all must think everything said is a conspiracy theory. No, Bush isn't one, but I am sure he takes orders from them, and so does other world leaders. In the book, The Creature from Jekyll Island, the creature is a monster known as The Federal Reserve System conjured up at a secret meeting by a group of Illuminati snakes on a remote island off the east coast of America in 1913.
I do believe Islam is a threat, but I also think they are being provoked and persecuted. If you do not know history on the above, then you wouldn't understand why I think this.
So what, you're 80, 90 years old and know this? Previous poster talking about...sm
Joseph Kennedy back in the 1940s and 1950s, some 60-70 years ago, and what he did and didn't do? It's all in the history books.
Maybe Teddy is like that today and pays for nothing (doubt that, but hey, you say live there, whatever), really don't care for him much at all, what with Chappaquiddick (sp?) and all, and how daddy Kennedy got young Teddy off on murder charges on that poor girl, Mary Jane Kopechne. Daddy Kennedy called in favors for that one, too, doncha know.
It's well known how much daddy Kennedy did for JFK way back then, to get him elected. It's called history.
Poster is correct
If someone gets on this board and says anything about Obama you don't like, O lovers go ballistic. They want facts, they get facts, and then instead of admitting they weren't aware, they just attack because that's all they got.
I'm not even republican and I can see how close-minded you are. You believe anything said about Obama is a lie, even if the facts are out there. You immediately call the poster a liar without even looking at the source posted, etc.
Please do not try to sound so open minded.....you are not!
Okay...then the initial poster was correct.
Just wanted to make sure I understood you.
Dear poster: at least get the grammar correct in
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Here Macula, Correct link - thanks to poster below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE
Poster is very correct. Obama did NOT beat Clinton
And NOW, this big fiasco with the global banking system, concidentally just a month before this orchestrated election?
I've always wondered why everything got so hush hush when it was obvious Hillary Clinton had won the nomination but was suddenly pushed to the side and here's this man who has extremely concerning ties with people you would tell your own relative to stay away from.
And the millions of dollars he gets from unknown sources OUTSIDE this country.
I'm just glad McCain hasn't stooped to betraying his country like Obama. Something is very stinky in Denmark!!!
I think to a certain extent you are right, but...(sm)
one of the main problems we have in the region is reputation. As far as most Arabs are concerned the west is the west, with little differentiation between the US and Europe. If you look at it from their point of view, the west (Britian) took their land to give it to the Jews, and the US (also west) has been backing this decision ever since. As we all know, this has been the main contention since WWI that they have had with us. So, in that respect I believe it is very important to look at the history of the situation.
There are also problems with recent history. Bush said he wanted a 2-state solution. Publicly he denounced the advancement of Israeli settlements into Gaza; however, the settlements not only did not slow down, but actually increased the whole time he was saying this. What was done about it? Nothing -- that is unless you count Bush raising the amount of money we give Irael each year. Israel has been using this support we provide to strong arm the rest of the region for years, and reallly needs to be reigned in if we are to have any credibility in the region whatsoever.
I agree to an extent. I think she would
make a much better president than Obama or McCain. I don't think Obama can win (he's inexperienced & the media will destroy him if he gets the nomination), and our economy can't withstand McCain, who is 100% pro-free-trade & wants to expand it, more tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations while screwing over working people, etc. They're already predicting $7/gal gas if McCain gets it. I originally was hoping for Edwards, then hoping for Clinton because I think that's our only chance to beat McCain.
This is true to a certain extent (sm)
There are a lot of great companies out there that do put money back into their company and its employees. Unfortunately, there are too many that the CEOs and their boards pocket the money and couldn't give a rat's patootie about their employees and they're the ones ruining it for everyone else. Also unfortunately, they're the ones we just bailed out with our tax dollars. Sad commentary on the way our country is moving. I like the map of the liberal brain at the end, though - that's funny!
I agree to a certain extent
I do agree that not everyone should be lumped into one group. It's being done on both sides (including myself sometimes). Especially when you are called names (pubs) when your neither a republican or democrat (I'm what I call mutt because I like a little of what every party has for ideas), but when your called a "pub" it's easy to shoot back with a reply and say (dems). Not everyone is in the same group. I do believe that there are people who voted for Obama based on what they believe he can do to help the country. But at the same time there are people who have absolutely no idea who he is, what his past record is, who is friends are, who elevated him to where he is, how he was able to beat out all the candidates that have experience and knowledge about the issues, but he was pushed ahead by the big money people (Wall Street, Bredzinski, etc) and the other candidates were squashed and had no chance without the funds that these "big money" people poured into Obama to ensure he would become president. Anyway...those people who jumped on the band wagon and would not listen to anything except he'll be the first black president, or Bon Jovi or Brad Pitt or other stars are supporting him. Those are what I refer to as the Kool-Aid drinkers. The one's who come on this site and don't talk about issues, about what's happening in the economy, what Obama's plan is. No they come on and say "he's my hero, he's the Messiah, he's makes my heart happy and makes me want to dance, he's just like us because he eats chili dogs and cheese fries just like we do". I've heard every crack-pot "reasoning" for why they "love" Obama, but never for any substance like "I like his health care policy, or he has this idea or that idea of how he is going to create more jobs, he's in the process of drawing up papers to tax companies that take jobs overseas, etc, etc. Nothing like that, just he makes me so happy in my heart I'm dancing around in joy and ecstasy". Those are the Kool-Aid drinkers I refer to. The Obots, Obamaniacs, etc.
Yes, let's give the man a chance. Let's avoid name calling and that is on both sides. When someone posts "he's just like us cos he eats chile dog and cheese fries just like we do", yes they are going to get called a Kool-Aid drinker cos that's what they are. Bringing an opinion like that to this board deserves a response like that. I remember when people who supported McCain were explaining why they supported him, they were met with such hate-filled messages it was awful and I had to take this site out of my favorites.
I say lets give the guy a chance. To tell the truth I don't think he's off to a very good start with already adding to our deficit with the huge cost of the inaugeration (and no, all that money is not being donated by rich people - some maybe, but the rest will just be added and the citizens of America will end up paying for it). Also the people he has picked for his cabinet members. Not good at all.
Yes, he is a smart man. Nobody makes it through law school if they are not smart, but you have to remember, he is a lawyer. He knows how to bend the rules, changes the laws, and maneuver out of things.
I'm not calling Obama any names, but it would be nice if people on the board started bringing real issues to the board instead of lately posted "I love you Obama, you make my heart soar, the mere mention of your name brings me joy, blah, blah, blah". Can we just stick to issues.
How about what is happening inside. People should read what's been going on with Pelosi. DH was telling me that Pelosi is upset because Obama had promised through his campaign that the wealthier people are going to pay more in taxes and now he's changed that and said he's not going to make them pay any more. So guess there's trouble brewing in the democrat party alone. Truthfully I have not read the article, but DH was telling me this yesterday, so I'll have to try and find the article (good luck to me, cos he reads about 80 or so news sites a day - everything from Drudge, MSNBC, Fox, CNN, local and national newspapers, etc) - can you tell he doesn't work :-o.
But these are the issues I want to hear.
Truthfully I am very happy for the people who voted for him. I'm glad you are all happy and giddy. I'm glad you are about to start a week-long celebration. That's all and good and I'm happy for you. But for the people who are following what is happening, who have concerns about the direction our country is taking, about the issues that Obama does not believe in the constitution and is going to try to change it while he is in office (what's next, is he going to try and change the Bible too?). For the people who are worried because there is someone who is trying to change the constitution so that there is no term limits and is fighting for Obama to be the President until his death. These are very worrisome and I am very worried for our country.
So, while I wish Mr. Obama the best, hope he will do good for the country, I am also worried. I won't (and have never called) Mr. Obama any names, but if people continue with the sillyness I will most likely be tempted to call them Kool-Aid drinkers. - Just the "cat" in me.
To a certain extent I agree....however..(sm)
LGBT issues is only a part of the whole course. It starts in K with why you shouldn't tease and then continues and doesn't hit LGBT issues until the 5th grade. This is obviously a problem in this state or they wouldn't be addressing it.
I agree that kids tease, but given today's lack of guidance in the home for kids, the schools are having to take on this responsibility just to keep the kids safe while in their custody.
In a post below you said that we didn't have to have that kind of teaching in school. You're absolutely right. We knew what not to do because our parents taught us that. My grandmother raised me for the most part. She could "out christian" the best of you. She didn't agree with homosexuality, interracial marriage, etc, etc, etc....She did teach us that it was wrong as she saw fit. She also taught us not to make fun of others no matter what. But by the same token she didn't sit there in front of us and call Rock Hudson a fag. That's the difference.
To a certain extent I agree....however..(sm)
LGBT issues is only a part of the whole course. It starts in K with why you shouldn't tease and then continues and doesn't hit LGBT issues until the 5th grade. This is obviously a problem in this state or they wouldn't be addressing it.
I agree that kids tease, but given today's lack of guidance in the home for kids, the schools are having to take on this responsibility just to keep the kids safe while in their custody.
In a post below you said that we didn't have to have that kind of teaching in school. You're absolutely right. We knew what not to do because our parents taught us that. My grandmother raised me for the most part. She could "out christian" the best of you. She didn't agree with homosexuality, interracial marriage, etc, etc, etc....She did teach us that it was wrong as she saw fit. She also taught us not to make fun of others no matter what. But by the same token she didn't sit there in front of us and call Rock Hudson a fag. That's the difference.
I can understand and empathize to an extent,
while I was able to have one child, I was not able have anymore than that due to a multitude of problems leading to miscarrying, hysterectomy and a diagnosis of SLE and a stroke at the age of 45. As for unwanted cats and dogs, I agree with you there too, but I have taken action in this situation, for over 20 years on my own with no funding at great expense to myself, I have taken in hundreds of cats and found homes, with the exception of handicapped ones, nobody wanted them so I just kept them and dealth with their handicap. The reward in this is that I have managed to save some lives, albeit it is only a cup of water out of the ocean. And I would not agree with creating embryos for the purpose of research, but I am not against using ones that will be otherwise thrown away. If it should turn out that they can save lives, I think that is a good thing. I think a line would have to be drawn, and could be drawn, but then again, somebody mentioned in a post (forget who) that God gave us domain over the animals and the human race in general has not done a very good job there though, so you could be right.
I personally think it helps to an extent...
I listened to Michelle Obama's speech and I thought she was very articulate...and they are a beautiful family. I did listen to Hillary, and in my opinion, she made it all about her. She said the right things, but I don't think her heart was in it. I think there is a LOT of bitterness there still. Bill already put his foot in his mouth, no telling what he will say during his speech. What I found very strange was the camera focused on him while Hillary was speaking, and he had tears in his eyes, and he mouthed "I love you I love you I love you." It was easy to see what he was saying. Have no idea if that was for the cameras or was a really unguarded moment. Who knows? It just seemed really out of character for him. I did notice that she said she came before the crowd a proud mother, a proud Democrat and a proud United States Senator from New York...but nuttin' about being a proud wife...lol. Who can blame her??
As to Barack and Michelle being down to earth, I know that is the message she wanted to send. But when speaking to a group of middle class-type women, she kinda messed up when she told a story about Barack getting on to her for a $10,000 bill for the kids(yes, ten thousand) and she said to him, "Do you know how much camp costs?" That demonstrates that she was out of touch with the people she was talking to. $10,000 is probably a third of what they make a YEAR if they were lucky. She lives a very different life than the middle class. She may remember it from childhood, but she has left that behind her. Not that that is a bad thing...it just demonstrates that they are rich folks just like McCain. Most politicians are. It goes with the territory. All that being said, having money does not make any of them bad people.
I missed the speech of the man from Virginia, so can't comment on that one. Bill's will be interesting. You never know what is going to come out of his mouth.
I think we will find out more about the candidates after the convention, when we have official nominees, get to the debates, and if we can sort through the mud being slung from both sides, that is where most of our information will come from.
It proves the extent of the torture that was used...(sm)
as well as shows the public exactly what the last admin did. It puts in front of the public (in particular republicans who would be against prosecuting the Bush admin) the facts. I honestly think the main point of showing pics is to gain public support for the prosecution of the last admin. I think dems are kind of fighting the battle before it gets there to make prosecution easier......but that's just my opinion.
I agree to a certain extent - see message
I too could care less who has affairs nowadays. Doesn't make me think any less or more of them. However - my little however :-) - He was not the President of the US - Clinton was. Clinton should have been removed from office (although then Gore would have been in charge, so I take that back now) :-) Anyway...it was the fact that Clinton had an affair that got him in trouble, it was the lies, manipulation, lies, and all the other illegal stuff he did that went along with it.
I don't particularly think they are being any less or more hard/lenient on this guy than they had with others who did the same thing. Remember John Edwards? The democrat who WAS running for VP? My point is more that you can't say "this guy was a republican that might have possibly run for VP the next election, and that's why its so bad", when you don't bring up Edwards who DID run for VP.
I feel this way...if it's a republican who is caught having an affair the liberals are sure dragging them through the mud, and if it's a democrat who is caught having an affair the conservatives drag him through the mud. I don't feel either side gets a free pass when it comes to being raked through the coals. I'm sick to death of hearing about this republican who had an affair about as sick as I was hearing about that NY guy, and Edwards, and that guy who got caught in the bathroom at some airport, etc, etc., but your making it sound like only the democrats getting picked on and that's just not true.
P.S. - We really don't need Biden to have an affair to have a field day with him, every time he opens his mouth and speaks he does a doozy on himself. HA HA HA
Great post, great insight, great analysis, thanks!..nm
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Frank/O'Reilly
I was cheering that Bill is BACK! I've been fit to be tied over his lingering lethargy for the last period of months, and have written to complain, too.
There's a lot more on the web about Barney Frank and how filthy he is (in more ways than 1) this whole thing. He should've been put in jail along with Chris Dodd and Palsen, etc. Barney Frank's former lover worked for this outfit before they split many years ago. I've read so much on it that I don't recall which place I read it, but obviously you won't find any of this investigative stuff on the driveby channels. Even FNC doesn't put some stuff out there, which ticks me off. But I find it, anyway between the conservative blogs, sites, talk radio, etc. And these sources can be easily checked, so the libs can throw all the hissy fits they want. If they honestly think it's okay to give literally ANY party a free pass just b/c it has your letter or preference behind it, that's just nuts! I'm dying to clean out the RINOs in "my" party. They don't belong there.
Know that. That's my name for Barney Frank.
Kinda fitting, I think.
Barney Frank is a big culprit in this...
however, it is the HOMEOWNERS responsibility to READ YOUR CONTRACT. Geesh people, the lenders did loan to those they knew couldn't pay, but the people who bought a $300,000 home making $50,000 cannot be excused, they too bear responsibility. Anyone facing foreclosure now who gets bailed out should never be allowed to own another home without 20% or more CASH downpayment. We make our mortgage payment on time every month, add extra to the principal, have never been late, have never taken out a HELOC or a second mortgage and yet we are expected to help those out who probably shouldn't have bought a home in the first place.
Barney Frank (D) is the one who several years ago pushed the mortgage lenders to lend to EVERYONE so all could have homes. Read the Boston Globe Op-Ed piece by Jeff Jacoby for a good explanation.
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Thanks to Barney Frank and his snivling
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Barney Frank is a nut! He would also not listen re
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Your previous posts
Arent you the one who posted you were in the military and when asked about it, the truth came out that family members had been in the military, not you? So, are you spinning the untruths again? Or are you someone else using the same initials?
It was probably the previous owner.
Geez.
Previous post
The democrats voted over 90% with their own party just as McCain did with his (Bush). Go to factcheck.org.
Imbicilic? That's juvenile. Just because you don't agree and are a hot-headed Obama follower doesn't mean you have the right to call my posts imbicilic. I have never once degraded my own character by calling an Obama supporter an imbicile. Grow up.
Have they done that with previous pres?
If they have done this with previous presidents, I really couldn't care less. Anyone know the answer to this?
More on Barney Frank and fannie/freddie...
http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
Barney Frank is to blame for the economic
BUT, Barney Frank is to blame for the corrupt government interference in mortgages and forcing banks to loan to people who by no means had any business trying to buy a home!!
Barney Frank has been in Congress since 1981. He has been the head of the Financial Services Committee and has been in charge of pushing all these government regulations onto banks.....
LETS CALL IT LIKE IT IS!!! He's a corrupt SOB and he needs to be kicked out of there! And now he dares to come across suddenly acting as if he is doing EVERYTHING he can to get the banking business flowing again! BULL! He's got them just where he wants them, indebted to the government. WHat happens next? Government run banks....... socialism......governments lending YOU, the citizen, monies, owning you, your family, and everything else in your life.......you need to do YOUR HOMEWORK!
Barney Frank in prison, is that that what you'd call
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Barney Frank.....what planet did he fall off
Barney Frank wants less govt and state rights when it comes to drugs.... but he wants "regulation" and "more enforcement" when it comes to everything else that takes away MY rights...... what a joke!
Caught an ad-Barney Frank is going to be on O'Reilley
tonight or Thursday night? I think BF is a glutton for punishment. I hope, but doubt, BF will answer some questions instead of blowing smoke again.
Lilly, check this out per previous
Freedom of the press?
Scott McClellan Says Helen Thomas Opposes 'War on Terrorism'
By E&P Staff
Published: October 13, 2005 3:50 PM ET
NEW YORKQuestions today from longtime White House reporter Helen Thomas caused White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan to declare that she opposes the war on terrorism. His response caused one of Thomas's colleagues, Terry Moran, to leap to her defense.
Here is the exchange from the official transcript:
THOMAS What does the President mean by total victory -- that we will never leave Iraq until we have total victory? What does that mean?
McCLELLAN: Free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East, because a free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions --
THOMAS If they ask us to leave, then we'll leave?
MR. McCLELLAN: I'm trying to respond. A free and democratic Iraq in the heart of the broader Middle East will be a major blow to the ambitions of al Qaeda and their terrorist associates. They want to establish or impose their rule over the broader Middle East -- we saw that in the Zawahiri letter that was released earlier this week by the intelligence community.
THOMAS They also know we invaded Iraq.
McCLELLAN: Well, Helen, the President recognizes that we are engaged in a global war on terrorism. And when you're engaged in a war, it's not always pleasant, and it's certainly a last resort. But when you engage in a war, you take the fight to the enemy, you go on the offense. And that's exactly what we are doing. We are fighting them there so that we don't have to fight them here. September 11th taught us --
THOMAS It has nothing to do with -- Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
McCLELLAN: Well, you have a very different view of the war on terrorism, and I'm sure you're opposed to the broader war on terrorism. The President recognizes this requires a comprehensive strategy, and that this is a broad war, that it is not a law enforcement matter.
Terry.
TERRY MORAN On what basis do you say Helen is opposed to the broader war on terrorism?
McCLELLAN: Well, she certainly expressed her concerns about Afghanistan and Iraq and going into those two countries. I think I can go back and pull up her comments over the course of the past couple of years.
MORAN And speak for her, which is odd.
McCLELLAN: No, I said she may be, because certainly if you look at her comments over the course of the past couple of years, she's expressed her concerns --
THOMAS I'm opposed to preemptive war, unprovoked preemptive war.
MR. McCLELLAN: -- she's expressed her concerns.
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Maybe no one answered the two previous posts...sm
becuase they're tired of getting jumped on by your side, you know, the anti-fanatic fanatics...lol....but true.
I've refrained from commenting on this issue, even though I feel as if Obama is hiding something. Wonder what it could be?
If you had read my previous posts
you would know I have a problem with Wright. The others are just propaganda and I don't pay much attention to propaganda.
And if you read the previous decision on this
the judge raled on and on for pages about Berg and frivolous law suits.
And if you read the previous messages
Nice try!
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wrong...barney frank, chris dodd, and the
Dem members of the Banking and Finance Committee are wholly responsible. John McCain cosponsored a bill in 2006 and described this exact scenario, as did Allen Greenspan and John Snow (treasury secretary). The Dems killed it in committee. Voted to a man against it. And here we are. Nice try...no cigar (no pun intended). This is one that you can't lay on the Republicans. The facts do not support you on this one. No matter how much you deny it. And deny it you will. You can't help yourself.
More on Barney Frank...he is SO dirty in this economic mess....
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,432501,00.html
click on the link previous post
It's alive, it's alive..Why, Dr. Frankenstein, it's alive!
Head of FEMA fired from previous job
Take a look at THIS info:
(source http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/2/34622/68348)
Yes, that's right... the man responsible for directing federal relief operations in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, sharpened his emergency management skills as the Judges and Stewards Commissioner for the International Arabian Horses Association... a position from which he was forced to resign in the face of mounting litigation and financial disarray.
And what of that misleading White House press release?
'From 1991 to 2001, Brown was the Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association, an international subsidiary of the national governing organization of the U.S. Olympic Committee.'
I can't even begin to fact check the dates or IAHA's alleged relationship to the US Olympic Committee, because of course, the IAHA doesn't exist anymore, so there's nothing to Google. But it begs the question... how the hell did his prior job experience prepare Brown to head FEMA?
Well, judging by his agency's performance over the past few days... it didn't.
[Cross-posted at HorsesAss.org]
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Apparently, experience had nothing to do with Bush's bid for the presidency, and so he hands out agency posts like lollipops to his friends regardless of their competence or experience also.
The result is that thousands die unnecessarily on many continents. No one ever gets punished for this. Instead they get the Medal of Honor or civilian equivalent. They get promoted.
If I understant your previous writing correctly,
apparently you have been missing in action over the last 8 years. There have been absolutely NO checks or balances, so how would that be any different than what we already have. Obama ushering in a New World Order? You have completely misunderstood this whole conversation. These things have started almost 20 years ago. It is not NEW, it is now being expounded upon, but NOT NEW!! Bush played into this all of his 8 years in office...maybe you should look again and read some more. I am just the messenger.
previous speech talks how he will check "
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Witch hunt on previous administration?
Ah, for the waterboarding? I would suggest you acquaint yourself with the fact that America put Japanese war prisoners to death, yes executed them, for the same thing as your previous administration now stands accused of, torture. Strange how it was horrible when it was done to Americans but now it is ok? You, dearie, need to be off the panic button. This is like mass hysteria with people running scared, of what? Oh, I saw yesterday where Obama has now been called the superpresident, nice sound, huh?
Fannie and Freddie....Barney Frank, Chris Dodd...
you left them off your list. The two MAJOR players. Who got the most donations from fannie/freddie? Barack Obama and Chris Dodd. Obama got more from them in his 3 years than other senators did in 20. You do the math and follow the money.
Murtha, Pelosi, Barney Frank, Al Franken!, ughh!.
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