Time for all to be patriotic and fair and back the new president nm

• I am a democrat - shelly
  • So if he did change it to not mandatory - why is everyone still complaining?
  • O Changed it from mandatory Comm Serv requirement after the outcry - see message
    • The only mandated CS in his original - sjk
      • now it says goal. Previously it did not . - see message
    • better be careful - shelly
  • I think it should be a requirement - Angie M.
    • if kids are forced to do it, then adults should be too - nm
      • I think people on welfare should - have to do community service. -nm
      • nm - no one should be FORCED
        • agree, but to be fair if 1 person is forced, then everyone (adults too) should be - nm
  • my kids are not joining a community service org - O can KMA nm
    • My kids do community service - sm
      • my kids have done community service in the past - O can KMA
        • It is mandatory for graduation in our school - district. -nm
          • they had to join a community service organization to graduate? - nm
            • They have to complete 40 hours of - sm
      • I cant believe people cannot read - shelly
        • So don't let them. It is not mandatory. - Get YOUR facts straight
          • NO - shelly
          • THANK YOU!!!!! - Marmann
    • And they don't have to, but - Marmann
      • what it says about you actually - shelly
        • I love Obama - Mrs. M
          • Yes, he is..........AND.......... - abc
            • Such brilliance - shelly
              • Believe it or not, the appearance is also very important.. - abc
              • Excuse me Shelly but aren't you the one who likes Palin ? bwaaahahahah sm - Mrs. M
                • Mrs. M - shelly
            • now there's a good reason to want him as president. he can play basketball - cj
              • IN ADDITION, just log off, you are such miserable LOSERS - abc
        • Once again, a "civilian military force" that is - Marmann
          • hahahah - shelly
            • Now I get it. You're only here to inflame. - Marmann
              • Thank you.... - shelly
                • to shelly: Can't you give it a rest? - abc
                  • Why? - shelly
              • and it is way too easy to irritate the dems - nm
                • hahahaha - shelly
                  • It is YOU who tries to... - abc
                    • how about some MTing? - shelly
      • really what does it say about me exactly? - nm
        • For one thing, that you're not informed - Marmann
          • no one really knows the truth - dnh
          • it would be my children's choices,not mine - get a clue
            • but if it were mandatory, - then no freakin way -nm
    • I think it would be good for kids to do something constructive - - Amanda
      • Both my daughers belong to a service - sm
      • OK one more time - shelly
        • REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GET THE COLLEGE CREDIT! NM - Amanda
          • NOW IT SAYS THAT ..originally it did not. - no message
            • that was the information I read from day one - - Amanda
              • okay .. i have to get to work - see message
        • You're not telling the truth. - Marmann
      • because - O can KMA
        • He's not forcing anybody to do it - - Amanda
          • When originally posted on the web site, it said it was required .. - this was changed ...
    • All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... nm - oldtimer
      • why's that? - O can KMA -nm
  • Get over it. He is the president elect by a majority vote. nm - oldtimer
    • That's right, the people have spoken and - Mrs. M
      • do u realize he is actually not even "president elect" yet? - Elect. College has not voted ... LOL No mesage ..
    • duh - shelly
      • Time for all to be patriotic and fair and back the new president nm - Mrs. M
        • Yes, lets all give more to the freeloaders and - moochers and be patriotic......bull nm
        • Small message .. - ***
          • Just like you back the current president? - Kendra
            • When GW Bush became pres, I did give him a chance even though - I did not vote for him. BUT NOW NOBODY LIKES HIM
      • We get angry and defensive because we are tired of hearing..sm - oldtimer
        • You said it oldtimer! Obama won by majority and - Mrs. M
          • My patriotism stops at the freeloaders - and moochers..........nm
          • sorry, he has not yet earned my respect and blind faith .. - see message
        • that is so hypocritical! - shelly
  • Hi Shelly....sm - ms
    • The world is interested because - - Amanda
      • for Amanda: Exactly, here you go.....nm - abc

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And that's what I'm going to do.  Watch and pray.  I think the libs have made quite a nice show on this board with all their Obama worship, hypocrisy, personal insults, and downright temper tantrums.  Last I checked, the constituion was still intact and as a citizen of this country, even us conservatives have the right to speak our minds.  But I know how it works with the libs, the bill of rights, the tolerance mantra, it only applies to them.  God help you if you have greatly differing political and religious beliefs, you won't receive tolerance.  You will receive out and out hate.  But that's okay with me.  If the libs hate me, ridicule me, and insult me, then I'm doing something right.  I don't want to be a member of the Obama herd.

"Collective fear stimulates herd instinct, and tends to produce ferocity toward those who are not regarded as members of the herd. -- Bertrand Russell"

Time will reveal King Obama's inexperience and shortcomings. 

It's certain people that refuse to look at the PRESENT ISSUES, not the PAST. I am all for O doing the right things, but right now, it looks like business as usual with the exception of his cabinet picks and this stimulus package.

Sticking to the issues is one thing. Calling some unpatriotic just because they don't agree with you is another.

balanced . . . we're looking out for YOU . . . we're looking out for the FOLKs . . . fair and balanced . . .

Thank you for responding in a respectful manner.

For the record, I felt Kfir's remarks to me were offensive first, and that's why my remarks became nastier.  In fact, the remark about Kfir not being representative of most Israelis was in direct response and in the same tone to Kfir's post to me regarding being representative of liberals.

And I don't believe my take on the end times is a fact.  It's nothing more than my personal opinion, based on things I read that lead me to feel that way and raise the questions I raised.

I do agree that these issues are very emotionally charged and respect your decision to not discuss them further.  Again, thank you for being respectful.

I would be 100% fine with my taxes being raised 3% if it meant healthcare for all American children.  Heck, I would be overjoyed with that!  So if that bill ever comes up I guarantee you I will support it, but the fact is the current bill is a solution that could help families right now, and I support it.  I would support just about any bill that would help lower health insurance costs to American families, honestly.  I just truly think this one is great because it is aimed at covering minors.  I also think it is great that Republican and Democratic leaders tried to work together and compromise on it and decided to tax cigarettes instead of raising taxes in other areas.

So yes, I would rather have a hike in taxes and have more affordable healthcare for kids.  Is that the best solution for lower health care costs for adult Americans?  Maybe not, but for the minors with no choice in what kind of family they are born into I think it is a great choice.

Here's what Alaska has to say about it.

http://www.ktva.com/ci_11255829

You can also find this story on Fox, AOL news, and a number of publications.  From what I gather, Palin's spokesperson has said she won't accept the raise or will donate it.  That really doesn't sound right to me, espcially since not only did she have a hand in selecting the committee that decided to give out the raises, but the committee was actually formed in order to evaluate whether raises were needed. 

Why do I care about this?  My guess is that we will see her again, so I think it's important to keep up with what she's doing in the meantime.  I don't believe in that *out of sight, out of mind* thing.

what it does do is put money in the hands of people who have to spend it.  If they were to just give money to the middle class, most of us would simply save it or pay off bills.  That doesn't stimulate the economy.  The spending deficit is the main problem with the economy, and that's what they are addressing with this.  It's the same theory behind food stamps.  Statistically, the poorer the people that receive the money, the more likely it will be spent -- and that's the goal -- to get people to spend money.

Really, if you look at the tax cuts that we are supposed to get that come to what, I think someone said about $13 a week, you will see the same concept.  When Bush sent out those rebate checks, the idea, again, was to get people spending money.  Well, they didn't.  They paid bills and saved -- so we know that doesn't work.  However, if you are just getting an extra $13 a week, most people will just see that as an extra $13 for something else they will buy.  They will be less likely to save that $13 than they would a lump sum like the ones Bush sent out.

what it does do is put money in the hands of people who have to spend it.  If they were to just give money to the middle class, most of us would simply save it or pay off bills.  That doesn't stimulate the economy.  The spending deficit is the main problem with the economy, and that's what they are addressing with this.  It's the same theory behind food stamps.  Statistically, the poorer the people that receive the money, the more likely it will be spent -- and that's the goal -- to get people to spend money.

Really, if you look at the tax cuts that the middle class are supposed to get, they come to what, I think someone said about $13 a week, you will see the same concept.  When Bush sent out those rebate checks, the idea, again, was to get people spending money.  Well, they didn't.  They paid bills and saved -- so we know that doesn't work.  However, if you are just getting an extra $13 a week, most people will just see that as an extra $13 for something else they will buy.  They will be less likely to save that $13 than they would a lump sum like the ones Bush sent out.  That means the likelihood of the money being spent is greater.

what it does do is put money in the hands of people who have to spend it.  If they were to just give money to the middle class, most of us would simply save it or pay off bills.  That doesn't stimulate the economy.  The spending deficit is the main problem with the economy, and that's what they are addressing with this.  It's the same theory behind food stamps.  Statistically, the poorer the people that receive the money, the more likely it will be spent -- and that's the goal -- to get people to spend money.

Really, if you look at the tax cuts that the middle class are supposed to get, they come to what, I think someone said about $13 a week, you will see the same concept.  When Bush sent out those rebate checks, the idea, again, was to get people spending money.  Well, they didn't.  They paid bills and saved -- so we know that doesn't work.  However, if you are just getting an extra $13 a week, most people will just see that as an extra $13 for something else they will buy.  They will be less likely to save that $13 than they would a lump sum like the ones Bush sent out.  That means the likelihood of the money being spent is greater.

The subject of abortion is just going way too far left here.  If someone doesn't approve of abortions, they should not be forced to do them.  If a mother has the right to abort her baby, a doctor should have a right to refuse to perform such a thing.  That mother will just have to go to someone else.  But to take the rights away from either the mother or the doctor......that isn't right.  If you want the government to stay out of your uterus, then don't take free will away from someone who doesn't believe in it by making them perform such an act.  Think about it.  When you look at it from both sides, the extreme left and the extreme right are both wanting unfair things. 

I mean....there are the major kool-aid drinkers who refuse to see anything bad about obama no matter what the man does, but that really goes on both sides.  Some pubs are just as bad about that.  I think that Obama ran a great campaign with promises that people really wanted to believe.  However, now some of those Obama supporters are sweating it too.  It is now only the democratic kool-aid drinkers that continue to praise him.