Thought Lake Erie was pretty well cleaned up?
Posted By: Backwards typist on 2009-02-12
In Reply to: I saw acres and acres of them...... - sm
We have relatives in NY side of Lake Erie. Everyone was telling us (this was a few years ago) that the lake was okay now. We wanted to make sure because we always bought smoked whitefish when we went up there.
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I thought that was pretty funny too.
It's nice to see a lightening of the mood every now and then!
Thought this was pretty neat.......sm
I originally clicked this link to read the article, which is for another post, but what I found inside the article was even more interesting. A little more than half-way down the page is a gold-colored box where you can voice your concerns about your job and how the economy is affecting it. It is also a great platform for voicing your concerns about outsourcing our jobs overseas. 
She is perfect! She cleaned up corruption in her own party...
in Alaska...she is mother of 5...husband is a native Eskimo...last child is a Down's child she chose not to abort...she does NOT toe the party line and does not put the party before what she feels was best for her state. She is strong, smart, and exactly right to be the first female vice-president of this great United States! McCain hit it out of the park. GOOD for him.
The Lake is just fine
It used to be horribly polluted but it is fine now. My uncle and aunt own a cabin on Middle Bass Island which is right across from Put-In-Bay. My uncle fishes for Walleye out of the lake all the time. In fact, I was worried he was one of the idiots caught out on the ice that had to be rescued. LOL! Thankfully he was not, but he could have very easily been. He loves to ice fish. We used to vacation there every year with my aunt and uncle.
Go jump in a lake...nm
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How does this relate to the mayor of Salt Lake City??
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Great speech by the mayor of Salt Lake City. sm
Speech by Mayor Rocky Anderson, democrat, on 10/27/07. They should bump Hillary and put this guy out there.
Salt Lake City, Utah --
Today, as we come together once again in this great city, we raise our voices in unison to say to President Bush, to Vice President Cheney, to other members of the Bush Administration (past and present), to a majority of Congress, including Utah’s entire congressional delegation, and to much of the mainstream media: “You have failed us miserably and we won’t take it any more.”
“While we had every reason to expect far more of you, you have been pompous, greedy, cruel, and incompetent as you have led this great nation to a moral, military, and national security abyss.”
“You have breached trust with the American people in the most egregious ways. You have utterly failed in the performance of your jobs. You have undermined our Constitution, permitted the violation of the most fundamental treaty obligations, and betrayed the rule of law.”
“You have engaged in, or permitted, heinous human rights abuses of the sort never before countenanced in our nation’s history as a matter of official policy. You have sent American men and women to kill and be killed on the basis of lies, on the basis of shifting justifications, without competent leadership, and without even a coherent plan for this monumental blunder.”
“We are here to tell you: We won’t take it any more!”
“You have acted in direct contravention of values that we, as Americans who love our country, hold dear. You have deceived us in the most cynical, outrageous ways. You have undermined, or allowed the undermining of, our constitutional system of checks and balances among the three presumed co-equal branches of government. You have helped lead our nation to the brink of fascism, of a dictatorship contemptuous of our nation’s treaty obligations, federal statutory law, our Constitution, and the rule of law.”
“Because of you, and because of your jingoistic false ‘patriotism,’ our world is far more dangerous, our nation is far more despised, and the threat of terrorism is far greater than ever before.
It has been absolutely astounding how you have committed the most horrendous acts, causing such needless tragedy in the lives of millions of people, yet you wear your so-called religion on your sleeves, asserting your God-is-on-my-side nonsense – when what you have done flies in the face of any religious or humanitarian tradition. Your hypocrisy is mind-boggling – and disgraceful. What part of “Thou shalt not kill” do you not understand? What part of the “Golden rule” do you not understand? What part of “be honest,” “be responsible,” and “be accountable” don’t you understand? What part of “Blessed are the peacekeepers” do you not understand?
Because of you, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, many thousands of people have suffered horrendous lifetime injuries, and millions have been run off from their homes. For the sake of our nation, for the sake of our children, and for the sake of our brothers and sisters around the world, we are morally compelled to say, as loudly as we can, ‘We won’t take it any more!’ ”
“As United States agents kidnap, disappear, and torture human beings around the world, you justify, you deceive, and you cover up. We find what you have done to men, women and children, and to the good name and reputation of the United States, so appalling, so unconscionable, and so outrageous as to compel us to call upon you to step aside and allow other men and women who are competent, true to our nation’s values, and with high moral principles to stand in your places – for the good of our nation, for the good of our children, and for the good of our world.”
In the case of the President and Vice President, this means impeachment and removal from office, without any further delay from a complacent, complicit Congress, the Democratic majority of which cares more about political gain in 2008 than it does about the vindication of our Constitution, the rule of law, and democratic accountability.
It means the election of people as President and Vice President who, unlike most of the presidential candidates from both major parties, have not aided and abetted in the perpetration of the illegal, tragic, devastating invasion and occupation of Iraq. And it means the election of people as President and Vice President who will commit to return our nation to the moral and strategic imperative of refraining from torturing human beings.
In the case of the majority of Congress, it means electing people who are diligent enough to learn the facts, including reading available National Intelligence Estimates, before voting to go to war. It means electing to Congress men and women who will jealously guard Congress’s sole prerogative to declare war. It means electing to Congress men and women who will not submit like vapid lap dogs to presidential requests for blank checks to engage in so-called preemptive wars, for legislation permitting warrantless wiretapping of communications involving US citizens, and for dangerous, irresponsible, saber-rattling legislation like the recent Kyl-Lieberman amendment.
We must avoid the trap of focusing the blame solely upon President Bush and Vice-President Cheney. This is not just about a few people who have wronged our country – and the world. They were enabled by members of both parties in Congress, they were enabled by the pathetic mainstream news media, and, ultimately, they have been enabled by the American people – 40% of whom are so ill-informed they still think Iraq was behind the 9/11 attacks – a people who know and care more about baseball statistics and which drunken starlets are wearing underwear than they know and care about the atrocities being committed every single day in our name by a government for which we need to take responsibility.
As loyal Americans, without regard to political partisanship -- as veterans, as teachers, as religious leaders, as working men and women, as students, as professionals, as businesspeople, as public servants, as retirees, as people of all ages, races, ethnic origins, sexual orientations, and faiths -- we are here to say to the Bush administration, to the majority of Congress, and to the mainstream media: “You have violated your solemn responsibilities. You have undermined our democracy, spat upon our Constitution, and engaged in outrageous, despicable acts. You have brought our nation to a point of immorality, inhumanity, and illegality of immense, tragic, unprecedented proportions.”
“But we will live up to our responsibilities as citizens, as brothers and sisters of those who have suffered as a result of the imperial bullying of the United States government, and as moral actors who must take a stand: And we will, and must, mean it when we say ‘We won’t take it any more.’”
If we want principled, courageous elected officials, we need to be principled, courageous, and tenacious ourselves. History has demonstrated that our elected officials are not the leaders – the leadership has to come from us. If we don’t insist, if we don’t persist, then we are not living up to our responsibilities as citizens in a democracy – and our responsibilities as moral human beings. If we remain silent, we signal to Congress and the Bush administration – and to candidates running for office – and to the world – that we support the status quo.
Silence is complicity. Only by standing up for what’s right and never letting down can we say we are doing our part.
Our government, on the basis of a campaign we now know was entirely fraudulent, attacked and militarily occupied a nation that posed no danger to the United States. Our government, acting in our name, has caused immense, unjustified death and destruction.
It all started five years ago, yet where have we, the American people, been? At this point, we are responsible. We get together once in a while at demonstrations and complain about Bush and Cheney, about Congress, and about the pathetic news media. We point fingers and yell a lot. Then most people politely go away until another demonstration a few months later.
How many people can honestly say they have spent as much time learning about and opposing the outrages of the Bush administration as they have spent watching sports or mindless television programs during the past five years? Escapist, time-sapping sports and insipid entertainment have indeed become the opiate of the masses.
Why is this country so sound asleep? Why do we abide what is happening to our nation, to our Constitution, to the cause of peace and international law and order? Why are we not doing all in our power to put an end to this madness?
We should be in the streets regularly and students should be raising heck on our campuses. We should be making it clear in every way possible that apologies or convoluted, disingenuous explanations just don’t cut it when presidential candidates and so many others voted to authorize George Bush and his neo-con buddies to send American men and women to attack and occupy Iraq.
Let’s awaken, and wake up the country by committing here and now to do all each of us can to take our nation back. Let them hear us across the country, as we ask others to join us: “We won’t take it any more!”
I implore you: Draw a line. Figure out exactly where your own moral breaking point is. How much will you put up with before you say “No more” and mean it?
I have drawn my line as a matter of simple personal morality: I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has voted to fund the atrocities in Iraq. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who will not commit to remove all US troops, as soon as possible, from Iraq. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has supported legislation that takes us one step closer to attacking Iran. I cannot, and will not, support any candidate who has not fought to stop the kidnapping, disappearances, and torture being carried on in our name.
If we expect our nation’s elected officials to take us seriously, let us send a powerful message they cannot misunderstand. Let them know we really do have our moral breaking point. Let them know we have drawn a bright line. Let them know they cannot take our support for granted – that, regardless of their party and regardless of other political considerations, they will not have our support if they cannot provide, and have not provided, principled leadership.
The people of this nation may have been far too quiet for five years, but let us pledge that we won’t let it go on one more day – that we will do all we can to put an end to the illegalities, the moral degradation, and the disintegration of our nation’s reputation in the world.
Let us be unified in drawing the line – in declaring that we do have a moral breaking point. Let us insist, together, in supporting our troops and in gratitude for the freedoms for which our veterans gave so much, that we bring our troops home from Iraq, that we return our government to a constitutional democracy, and that we commit to honoring the fundamental principles of human rights.
In defense of our country, in defense of our Constitution, in defense of our shared values as Americans – and as moral human beings – we declare today that we will fight in every way possible to stop the insanity, stop the continued military occupation of Iraq, and stop the moral depravity reflected by the kidnapping, disappearing, and torture of people around the world.
I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share
Down the drain? Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'
By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger
If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.
“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”
“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”
Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?
He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?
Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:
GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.
But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.
OBAMA: Right.
GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.
So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”
That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.
But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.
Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked
I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."
That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.
It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.
You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?
Isn't she pretty?
She looks like a normal person too, not a clueless politican who has never paid a bill.
McCain and his wife scare me but I am so excited about her!
I'm pretty sure
that this post didn't have anything to do with Obama. The topic is McCain/Contra in this post. I can't stand either of them, but thanks for the advice.
pretty much
it is unlikely that we are ever going to agree, and honestly, I just come here to interact with adults. I just moved here, my husband is deployed and I don't know anyone, so it is nice to "talk" to adults. It is all good natured (on my part anyway) and I really just like to argue
I think you pretty much did that all by yourself. nm
So you just pretty much sent me to ...
the bad place with fire and stuff because of a joke that had absolutely nothing to do with religion based simply on the fact that I am an A... (the one whose name shall not be mentioned).
Pretty sure
Pretty certain that you are going to be standing before God too, right? Or are u exempt? Anyway, I bet he doesnt like foul-mouthed witch hunters one bit! I also bet he doesnt like it when his children start fights and are accusatory to innocent people. You have a high horse, what is it's name?
Pretty sad but just think
how many ignorant people will come back with.....but he is cutting the budget. LOL. All his sheeple will hear is budget cut and they are on board with him as per usual. If Obama promised to stop farting in an effort to lessen pollution.....his adoring fans would praise him from the highest mountain for all to hear.
Pretty sure that ()
who used to sign herself .- (dot/dash). Someone mentioned this a week or so ago and I have to agree. Same style, similar typos, same strange sentence structure and confrontational attitude. Anybody else noticing this?
It must pretty convenient
to cut and paste and post the same 1st-grade name calling, hate-filled rant everyday. It cuts out time spent in the creativity process...
Seems pretty important to me
Well, if his trustee is saying Frist was updated regularly on his blind trust, I kind of think that is something. It is a formal investigatinn by the SEC. I kind of think that is something.
Seems pretty on target to me :o)
Tongue in cheek..but I gotta tell ya, some of this is true, from my experience living in NY, CA and VA.
Subject: Dear Friends, (Retirees and Those Planning to Retire. Here are some very helpful tips that are just too true to ignore:
As we all know, when we hit retirement age we come face to face with the fact that it may be time to relocate. The big question is: where to? Here are some tips.
You can live in Phoenix, Arizona where.....You are willing to park 3 blocks away because you found shade. :-)You can open and drive your car without touching the car door or the steering wheel. You've experienced condensation on your butt from the hot water in the toilet bowl. You would give anything to be able to splash cold water on your face. You can attend any function wearing shorts and a tank top. Dress Code is meaningless at high schools and universities. Picture lingerie ads. You can drive for 4 hours in one direction and never leave town. You have over 100 recipes for Mexican food. The 4 seasons are: tolerable, hot, really hot, and ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!! You know that dry heat is comparable to what hits you in the face when you open your oven door.
You can Live in California where...You make over $250,000 and you still can't afford to buy a house. The high school quarterback calls a time-out to answer his cell phone. The fastest part of your commute is going down your driveway. You know how to eat an artichoke. You drive your rented Mercedes to your neighborhood block party. Then someone asks you how far something is, you tell them how long it will take to get there rather than how many miles away it is.
You can Live in New York City where..You say the city and expect everyone to know you mean Manhattan. You have never been to the Statue of Liberty or the Empire State Building. You can get into a four-hour argument about how to get from Columbus Circle to Battery Park, but can't find Wisconsin on a map. You think Central Park is nature, You believe that being able to swear at people in their own language makes you multi-lingual. You've worn out a car horn. You think eye contact is an act of aggression.
You can Live in Maine where... You only have four spices: salt, pepper, ketchup, and Tabasco. Halloween costumes fit over parkas. You have more than one recipe for moose. Sexy lingerie is anything flannel with less than eight buttons. The four seasons are: winter, still winter, almost winter, and construction.
You can Live in the Deep South where...You can rent a movie and buy bait in the same store. Y'all is singular and all y'all is plural. After five years you still hear, You ain't from ' round here, are Ya? He needed killin' is a valid defense. Everyone has 2 first names: Billy Bob, Jimmy Bob, Mary Sue, Betty Jean, MARY BETH, etc.
You can live in Colorado where...You carry your $3,000 mountain bike atop your $500 car. You tell your husband to pick up Granola on his way home and he stops at the day care center. A pass does not involve a football or dating. The top of your head is bald, but you still have a pony tail.
You can live in the Midwest where...You've never met any celebrities, but the mayor knows your name. Your idea of a traffic jam is ten cars waiting to pass a tractor. You have had to switch from heat to A/C on the same day. You end sentences with a preposition: Where's my coat at? When asked how your trip was to any exotic place, you say, It was different!
AND You can live in Florida where...You eat dinner at 3:15 in the afternoon. All purchases include a coupon of some kind -- even houses and cars. Everyone can recommend an excellent dermatologist. Road construction never ends anywhere in the state. Cars in front of you are often driven by headless people.
Wow! Looks pretty good.
I love the sentence, *Are you tired of boards that claim to stand for Free Speech but delete your posts or ban you outright for speaking your mind?*
Thanks, gt! 
That's pretty much the point isn't it? SM
Why call someone a racist for not being fond of the French?
This was pretty good.
I agree about the dress, though. It looks like the same one she wore on the Tonight Show. Must be her *Today/Tonight* dress. With her *best-selling* (paltry) 48,000 in book sales, you'd think she could afford to buy another dress.
pretty funny huh?
She's telling other people to pay attention to posts when she can't do it herself. 
Yeah pretty much.
It would be a lot funnier if it wasn't so true. :-(
I wonder why Bush refuses to go after Bin Laden now, after all that **wanted, dead or alive** rhetoric he spouted. I seriously wonder if Bin Laden is on Bush's payroll.
Pretty much practice
But I have to admit, even with all that practice I'll never be a master like you are. I'll always be just an amateur compared to you.
This is pretty interesting.
What stands out to me the most I think is that those polled still feel that the republicans are better at handling the terrorist problem than the democrats. How is that at all possible? Especially in light of the plethora of information about how poorly it has been handled from the get go? It shows just how deeply inset certain belief systems are regardless of whether or not they are true or based on fact.
Example of that is Huckabee. How naive can people be? This guy is running on his religion and people are swallowing it, especially the so-called values voters, when in actuality he is probably the most untrustworthy and least capable.
Go figure.
Yes, it is pretty childish....
if you don't like the way I play, get out of my sandbox. Very Democratic and liberal of you, piglet.
Not much of social value from conservatives? Emancipation proclamation? Voting for women and African Americans? Nah, from YOUR point of view, I guess that is not much. I believe they have all been sustainable. But if course, doing one of those things involved fighting a war to bring it about. And we all know liberals (well except John Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson...uh...) RUN from wars, right??
Not willing to compromise one iota, and doing the piglet post of disdain for anyone who dares disagree with you.
Grab your hoe and torch and head for the castle. That is about the extent of your idea of a "social movement." And have the nerve to say you have the welfare of the common man in your heart. Pull the other leg, piglet.
So pretty much Jesus would be like,
that's hilarious. Of course I can't say what He would do or say and neither can you, but didn't He teach to take care of those that can't take care of themselves? It is very hypocritical of you to talk about a country that murders millions of babies being morally wrong and in the same breath say it's okay let children die or suffer because their parents could not afford (or chose not to purchase) good healthcare. It's not the kids' fault if they got irresponsible parents or parents that were not in the upper-middle class. Should they suffer for their parents' sins/shortcomings?
Now this is pretty funny!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhPxSm9Es0w
Got to love those tough questions!
The only possible way is pretty far-fetched...
but if his goal was to remain as President, he would not have to start a war. Could declare a national state of emergency. The President (any President) can declare a national state of emergency and at that point they can do just about whatever they want, including conceivably cancel a national election. There is provision for that in law. However...I can't see Congress allowing that. If he did that, he would be impeached fortwith (and so he should be if he tried something like that, if ANY President tried it). And absent a bonafide national emergency, I sure can't see him going down that road. That much of a cowboy he ain't.
that's pretty funny, especially like the hug
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You seemed pretty proud yourself
Like the other poster said, own up or take cover. Defend your candidate's views and positions or bash, slam ad slur to an audience of 1.
Pretty funny!
haha.... that's pretty LOW! That should be
(Though the latter does more closely resemble my own yearly income......)
This pretty much sums up most
My Answer To The President is a good read.......
http://www.campaignforliberty.com/
Pretty funny really.......
Obama making a statement earlier that "The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree". Well, I guess he's right. ACORN didn't fall far from his tree. Matter of fact, he helped that ACORN get bigger and bigger and bigger!
That's pretty cool....sm
to have something you're that passionate about, in your life. For me, it's the wildlife that I see out my window every day.
I was at our last farmer's market for the season the other day, and thought of you immediately, because the gal there, when I asked about this beautiful, large green gourd, what it was called (I thought it might be a certain kind, because it was round and smooth and tall)...and she goes, "It's a gourd, it just grew that way. You wait until it dries and then you can do all sorts of things with them, use as decorations, and even paint them...."
And I go to myself....gourdpainter!!!!
Pretty much shows
what we could expect from his administration. More lunacy. He wanted to win at all costs and he no doubt thought Palin would deliver Clinton supporter's votes. After that fiasco how anyone can think he will turn this country around is beyond me.
seems pretty selfish....
no rights for the father....
Pretty hypocritical
that you can't thank one without smearing the other.
This pretty much sums up Mrs. M
This is one of her posts: "Obama won by majority and It's time for people to back the new president and be patriotic."
Only a terrible racist person would suggest that we be supportive of our president and be PATRIOTIC!!!
RIGHT?!
But, hey, if you guys allege it, it must be true.
It's pretty simple
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Pretty disgusting if you ask me
I thought the whole world was going to end if they didn't get their bail-out. Key point: Union leaders summoned to Detroit to make concessions. Lower wages for American workers and the auto employees never made $70 an hour to begin with. Guess they can look forward to wages competing with Mexican wages.
So pretty much you are interested in
throwing out smears that you are not willing to back up with facts, citations or examples and baiting other posters. You also don't seem to care how ignorant you sound, given the fact that it is patently clear you don't have a clue as to the meaning of racism or bigotry. You also seem quite unwilling to engage in any meaningful debate on the so-called pot-shot issues you fire off in your drive-bys. To top it all off, so far you have shown yourself to have a fairly juvenile, shallow, superficial and limited form of thinking.
Should you decide to step up to the plate and actually post something of substance you are willing to exercise some intellect over, I'll be more than happy to accommodate. In the meantime, I'd rather use my time more productively reading up on the latest news.
So pretty much you are interested in
throwing out smears that you are not willing to back up with facts, citations or examples and baiting other posters. You also don't seem to care how ignorant you sound, given the fact that it is patently clear you don't have a clue as to the meaning of racism or bigotry. You also seem quite unwilling to engage in any meaningful debate on the so-called pot-shot issues you fire off in your drive-bys. To top it all off, so far you have shown yourself to have a fairly juvenile, shallow, superficial and limited form of thinking.
Should you decide to step up to the plate and actually post something of substance you are willing to exercise some intellect over, I'll be more than happy to accommodate. In the meantime, I'd rather use my time more productively reading up on the latest news.
It should be pretty obvious
I really think all of these "bail-outs" were actually a long time in the planning and went off according to schedule. The way the Wall Street bail out was handled, just give them the cash, no oversight, a 2 page application, etc. tells it's own story. The salaries and bonuses given to the CEOs is nothing short of disgusting. Yet people have the unmitigated gall to whine because union workers earn a decent living. Working class people should be squarely behind the UAW workers and AGAINST the CEOs who are begging for our money while flying to the begging table in their private jets. Heck most of us when we fly have to take coach class. First class is reserved for the like of the Victoria Olsteens. At least they aren't rich enough YET to afford their private jet.
Your husband may as well go on down to Washington and ask for a handout but I doubt he'll get it.....now if the real estate commission in your state went, they MIGHT get a bail out that wouldn't even trickle down to your husband. Bush and Cheney care not one iota for common people.....witness their "so what?" and "so?" Now that their days are numbered they can say what they want and still there are those on this board who can't see them for what they are. CROOKS!!!!!
She seems pretty secure to me.
her every word" because she likes the truth and when someone posts a big fat lie on this board, she can see it and can prove it wrong. I know those annoying "FACTS" can get in the way of someone who is trying to spread fodder that contains little or no truth. She seems to have inner peace, and many of her posts on this board are pretty funny too so I guess her sense or humor and "joy" are intact as well. Unlike you, I won't be arrogant enough to pretend to know anything about her personal life. Just how do you know she doesn't have a "life of joy with true friends and family"? And how do you know she doesn't have a life other than one that "consists of I guess just basically having a life other than transcribing, hating Bush and proclaiming to be an atheist."? Have you ever met her? How many family members does she have? How many friends does she have? What color is her hair? Her eyes? Does she prefer puppies over kittens or both or none? How tall is she? With the "knowledge" you claim to have, those questions should be pretty easy for you to answer, and I look forward to reading those answers. 
She seems pretty secure to me.
her every word" because she likes the truth and when someone posts a big fat lie on this board, she can see it and can prove it wrong. I know those annoying "FACTS" can get in the way of someone who is trying to spread fodder that contains little or no truth. She seems to have inner peace, and many of her posts on this board are pretty funny too so I guess her sense or humor and "joy" are intact as well. Unlike you, I won't be arrogant enough to pretend to know anything about her personal life. Just how do you know she doesn't have a "life of joy with true friends and family"? And how do you know she doesn't have a life other than one that "consists of I guess just basically having a life other than transcribing, hating Bush and proclaiming to be an atheist."? Have you ever met her? How many family members does she have? How many friends does she have? What color is her hair? Her eyes? Does she prefer puppies over kittens or both or none? How tall is she? With the "knowledge" you claim to have, those questions should be pretty easy for you to answer, and I look forward to reading those all-knowing answers.
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