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Those who assassinate the character of people they've never met

Posted By: PK on 2006-06-27
In Reply to: You haven't said an intelligent unpetulant thing in your entire post. - worldfan

only succeed in illuminating their own shortcomings.


I won't be responding to you any more.  It's pointless.  You're not here to debate.  You're here to insult.


Have a lovely evening. 




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    Usually they've been told by other people that

    I've heard other people say that...

    I would only imagine that she's lapping up all the attention as well.  I have no faith she can run this country and I never thought he would have picked a woman.  Obama/Biden...  Looking better and better.


    Oh and the pic of his shoes with holes just shows he's a hard worker and does not squander money in my opinion.  Also, some workers at my hubs place of employment purposefully wear holey shoes to show they need a raise.  If management says something about the holes in the shoes, they answer with when they get a raise; gotta eat first!  Maybe Obama really is for the working class!


    I've always heard people say...

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    There might be no escape from the one-world government, but I did come upon one very unique way to leave this earth. 


    (To the MOON, Alice!)


    Yep. I've been saying this for awhile. I'm glad people...
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    I've been hearing from people she debated against that

    She's a real tiger and I'm watching it and hoping that is true. We shall see.


    Facts don't matter to some people, I've come to that conclusion. sm
    The democratic party leaders stand up there day in and day out, saying it wasn't their fault, it's the republicans, even when audio, video, etc., are available for anyone's review, even on this site today, that prove that they, the dems themselves, are/were the ones at fault....somehow they weasel out of it and scream and point fingers at the republicans.

    I am just amazed and astounded......


    What does it say about a man's character when he...

    stiffs folks on campaign bills when he steps out of the race?


     



    FW: Joe Biden (You WON'T see THIS "reported"....ANYWHERE!!!)

    I feel an obligation to honesty and truth to share with you some facts. My Father and Mother instilled in me the values and morals of treating people fairly and always being honest. If you purchase something, you pay for it. If you borrow something, you give it back.

    I have been "stiffed" three times in my 30 year professional career by someone who I rendered services to, gave a finished product to, but who refused to pay for those services even though they acknowledged the services and products were correct, were what they asked for, and were never challenged for not being correct. I am lucky in having only three, but those three hurt badly.

    Joe Biden was one of those people. I worked on his 1988 Presidential campaign financial disclosure engagement. I busted it for him and got everything right. He stiffed me for over $15,000 worth of work. He refused to pay once he dropped out of the race. I did similar Capitol Hill campaign financial disclosure work for Bob Dole, Pat Buchanan, and a Democratic candidate for Ambassador to New Zealand. All of those folks paid even though they lost the election or did not get the appointment. That type of work is very demanding and very tedious because your efforts are scrutinized by Congress. Biden did not care.

    I am on the Board of Directors of a company that owns a majority position in a private jet management company in Northern Virginia. They manage jets for businesses and rich folks. They also charter planes to the public. This past winter John Thompson chartered over $250,000 worth of air time. He paid every penny.

    Joe Biden, in his latest unsuccessful run for President, chartered over $150,000 worth of air time. He PAID ZERO. He continues to refuse to pay stating his race is over and he is out of money. He never once complained about his flights. Joe Biden is a rich man. He could pay.

    Joe Biden is a liar and a cheat. I know it first hand. Character is what life is all about. Joe Biden is a man of bad character and sets a bad example for America.

    I feel compelled to share this dark side of a man who asks for your vote and trust.

    Best Regards,

    Bruce D. Riddle, CPA, CFP
    BDR Associates, LLC


     


    This email went out 9-2.  Biden has now paid the bill.  Well go figure...LOL.


    Character

    Unless there is a new candidate, I see no character in any of the candidates.  The only one who gets any real sympathy from me is Joe Biden;  how horrible it must have been to lose a wife and a child in a terrible accident.


    As for McCain, by his own admission, he was not faithful in marriage, yet we expect him to be faithful to those of us who are small time people that he doesn't even know?  I think not.


    Yes, I read what McCain's ex-wife had to say about him.  I greatly admire and respect her for not bad-mouthing the father of her children.  I think many women would do well to follow her example.  But can anyone tell me with a straight face that the ex-wife, scorned and pubically at that, can remain a great fan of the ex-husband for any reason than out of love and respect for her children or perhaps for money?  No?  I didn't think so. 


    Everyone thankfully is free to vote for whomever they wish.  I will not vote for a rat that ran out on his disabled wife.  Whether he did it for Cindy's youth and beauty or for her money, I don't know, but it surely advanced his political aspirations.  What I do know is that I would not like to see such an immoral man in the White House.  Is Obama any better?  I don't know.  His administration might be worse than McCain's but I'll take a chance on him by voting, not FOR him but AGAINST John McCain.


    Character
    Honestly I think McCain has less character than Obama but then I respect your opinion.
    At least she has character.........unlike some
    xx
    character is not an "issue" to them. Well, it is
    nm
    One word: Character....nm
    .
    What does it say about a candidate's character

     


    1.       Dumps his crippled wife and mother of his children to have affair with wealthy heiress, then turns around to apply for marriage license before his divorce is final. 


    2.       Calls his wife C-word.


    3.       While speaking at a biker's rally, volunteers his wife as a contestant in the "Miss Buffalo Chips" topless modeling contest, including it's legendary banana competition.


    4.       Tries to blame his wife for the Keating 5 scandal when it becomes public.


    5.       Screams at and thoroughly humiliates a young pub volunteer who set up his podium at a rally.


    6.       Jokes about ape rape and killing off Iranians with cigarettes and "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb."


    7.       Describes Arizona's elderly as "seizure world."


    8.       Throws temper tantrums, punctuated with the casual use of the F-word. 


    9.       Calls fellow senators Aholes and sh-heads. 


    10.    Ignites a culture war to get elected. 


    11.    Questions the patriotism of his opponent and fails to renounce his supporters who question his faith, endlessly insinuate he lies about it and portray his wife as a militant with hidden agendas to stage a socialist/Black Power takeover of the country.


    12.    Embraces endorsement from a pastor who disparages Catholics, women, African Americans, Muslims and LGBT Americans, believes that Hurricane Katrina was punishment from God because "New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God," announced a "slave sale" at the church to raise funds and believes that "the coming nuclear showdown with Iran is a certainty,"


    13.    Overlooks the Bush-Rove campaign strategy of unleashing a landslide of racist attacks on him, including calling his own daughter an illegitimate half-black love child, turns around in 2004 to campaign for W's second term, throughout it all supported 9 out of 10 of his disastrous policies that has brought the nation to it knees and then embraces Rove as senior campaign adviser in 2008. 


    14.    Stood silently by while fellow war hero/veteran John Kerry was swift-boated without mercy. 


     


    Before any rebuttal ensues that would seek to deny, dodge and deflect, keep in mind that character assassination has been a benchmark of JM's campaign and of his supporters, so no whining allowed.  Finally, this is legitimate inquiry, given that 90% is striving so diligently not to be 90% and has hawked character as his main qualification for presidential leadership. 


    Simple ? What does it say about a man's character when he

    1.       Dumps his crippled wife and mother of his children to have affair with wealthy heiress, then turns around to apply for marriage license before his divorce is final. 



    2.       Calls his wife C-word.



    3.       While speaking at a biker's rally, volunteers his wife as a contestant in the "Miss Buffalo Chips" topless modeling contest, including it's legendary banana competition.



    4.       Tries to blame his wife for the Keating 5 scandal when it becomes public.



    5.       Screams at and thoroughly humiliates a young pub volunteer who set up his podium at a rally.



    6.       Jokes about ape rape and killing off Iranians with cigarettes and "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb."



    7.       Describes Arizona's elderly as "seizure world."



    8.       Throws temper tantrums, punctuated with the casual use of the F-word. 



    9.       Calls fellow senators Aholes and sh-heads. 



    10.    Ignites a culture war to get elected. 



    11.    Questions the patriotism of his opponent and fails to renounce his supporters who question his faith, endlessly insinuate he lies about it and portray his wife as a militant with hidden agendas to stage a socialist/Black Power takeover of the country.



    12.    Embraces endorsement from a pastor who disparages Catholics, women, African Americans, Muslims and LGBT Americans, believes that Hurricane Katrina was punishment from God because "New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God and they were recipients of the judgment of God," announced a "slave sale" at the church to raise funds and believes that "the coming nuclear showdown with Iran is a certainty,"



    13.    Overlooks the Bush-Rove campaign strategy of unleashing a landslide of racist attacks on him, including calling his own daughter an illegitimate half-black love child, turns around in 2004 to campaign for W's second term, throughout it all supported 9 out of 10 of his disastrous policies that has brought the nation to it knees and then embraces Rove as senior campaign adviser in 2008. 



    14.    Stood silently by while fellow war hero/veteran John Kerry was swift-boated without mercy. 



     



    Before any rebuttal ensues that would seek to deny, dodge and deflect, keep in mind that character assassination has been a benchmark of JM's campaign and of his supporters, so no whining allowed.  Finally, this is legitimate inquiry, given that 90% is striving so diligently not to be 90% and has hawked character as his main qualification for presidential leadership. 


    character issue

    McSame was unfairly attacked by Bush machine when they ran in primaries together.  Bush people insinuated he had a black child out of wedlock.  They even claimed he was mentally unstable due to his time as a POW.  McSame was deeply wounded by the attacks.  But now he is willing to use same diversion techniques against Obama.  That, my friends, speaks of the character of the man.


     


    McCain's Character ...sm

    Found this comment on McCain.  I guess he just so desperately wants to win.  How many of his former friends and supporters have said lately that they don't recognize him anymore? 


    “Character”


    John McCain says this election is about character – and he‘s right.

    In the 2000 presidential race the Bush campaign – led by Karl Rove – viciously attacked John McCain’s wife and child – they said his wife was a drug addict and that the child he and his wife adopted from an orphanage was actually his illegitimate Black daughter. On election night, his wife was in tears.


    Back then, McCain was disgusted. He said there was “a special place in h*ll” for rumormongers like these people. He made a promise to his family and to his supporters that he would never run a dirty campaign like that. Never.


    But early this year John McCain hired Charlie Condon, the very same man who was behind those vicious smears to run his South Carolina campaign. And then several weeks ago he brought Steven Schmidt - leading protégé of Karl Rove and master of the political hit job - on board to be his campaign manager and write the talking points for the new negative campaign against Barak Obama.


    It’s sad to watch, McCain’s willingness to humiliate himself by hiring the same gang of people who horribly insulted him and his family. It shows that he has become so desperate to win this election that he is willing to sacrifice his principles and his personal honor in order to do it


    Let’s face it. A real man would have said to those people – “Get the h*ll out of my office before I throw you out” the minute they walked in. A person would not have to be a tough guy like John Wayne to say that. A gentle, decent man of character would have told them the same thing.


    But what did John McCain say about Bush’s dirty politics gang?


    He said: “I had to get over it … it was a long time ago”


    It’s sad, genuinely sad
    .
    John McCain – he’s no longer the man he used to be.


    I don't think character (or lack of it)...

    ...is restricted to one political party.


    Whether this crook is a Democrat or a Republican, he should be tossed in jail and the keys thrown away.  Period.


    I am voting for someone who has character. nm
    .
    Character? Have you done any research at all...
    about how quickly he rose through Chicago politics? The Daly machine? The people he has dealth with? His 20-year association with black liberation theology? He admitted in his own book he went to socialist conferences and was "exposed" to Marxist literature. None of this really matters to you? Is the United Socialist States of America (sounds suspiciously like the USSR, does it not?) what you really want? If so...vote enthusiastically for Obama. How any thinking person can ignore all this boggles the mind...but of course, it has happened in other countries (Cuba, Venezuela...Russia...), it can happen here too.

    No way, no how, could I be any part in putting that man in the White House, especially with a Democratic majority in the Congress.

    We would be hosed...all of us...and partly at the hands of our countymen/women. Ironic, doncha think?
    No, I just pay attention to character, not
    ++
    Character questions

    We all know that we can go back and forth on which candidate is the best for our country. We also know that when running for president candidates can promise a lot.  Since it is not possible to know how each candidate's economic, tax or any other policy will turn out until they are actually in office, I will be basing my vote on how they feel about moral issues, i.e. marriage, abortion, etc. Each candidate has a platform/an agenda they will be pushing once elected.  Their platform can be seen on the internet by googling 2008 Democratic Party Platform or 2008 Republican Party Platform. There is some very interesting stuff in there. Check it out.


    Speaking of character...

    Just because a Georgia congressman needs some publicity (like a 2-year-old, bad attention is just as good as good attention) and says something stupid, people jump all over it.


    There are whackos in Congress, just as there are in the general public.  A perfect example is Michele Bachmann who trashed Obama on national television, and when she saw it backfired on her, she quickly produced a commercial saying some nonsense about her words not always coming out right but her heart being in the right place.  (And then she blamed the host of the show for tricking her into saying these outlandish things.)


    After the election, she then went on to do a 180 and issued the statement below.


    After suggesting that Barack Obama had anti-American views in an exchange three weeks ago with MSNBC host Chris Matthews, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) told Politico Thursday that she was "extremely grateful that we have an African-American who has won this year." She called his victory "a tremendous signal we sent."


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/06/bachmann-praises-obamas-w_n_141922.html


     


    I would not call that a lack of character...

    I would actually call it strong character that she can praise Obama's win even though she feels he has anti-American views.  So that is her opinion, as many of us here feel.  


    Not laughing. Bush has more character than
    nm
    Speaking of character. It should matter, but
    nm
    Sure thing....case closed. JM has character....
    Obama does not.

    Just because someone does not come on after your final barb, doesn't mean I think you're right.

    You are largely non-debatable anyway, and one-note choir.
    That's right Character matters, meanwhile MQ puffs on W's cigar

    Yep, W is his goooood buddy. They be bestest of friends. Gives him big ole bear hugs. Nice to see McSame in the saddle.


    Don't you wish ? Issue is character, trust, loyalty and
    What about the rest of the list. Again, question is what does this kind of repeated behavior spanning ?many years say about a man's character, especially one who now implores a nation to admire his character, trust his judgment, believe he is loyal to his porported "cause" and that he respects women...the votes he now seeks
    Yeah, I don't trust Obama's character
    nm
    being a POW shaped him, but character, integrity and judgment
    x
    President Bush's strength of character.....sm
    was tested this weekend, when two shoes were hurled at his head in fast succession, while the owner of said shoes, (size 10, by the way, per our prez), had hoped they would hit him, not to mention embarass with the intended podiatric insult.

    However, President Bush showed great strength of character in the aftermath of said attack, calling off the secret service, and making light of the matter.



    And not to mention, lightning quick reflexes.



    Kudos to you, Mr. President. I salute you.
    LOL! "Bush's strength of character", now that's funny.
    x
    This speaks volumes about the character of the man who would be president

    Bush has more character in his pinky finger than
    nm
    What kind of man of character calls Chelsea Clinton
    Looks like JM thinks family is fair game as long as it's dem family. Obama does not go down that path.
    My vote is based on issues, -include character.nm
    nm
    Trusting Obama's character. That is a huge problem
    nm
    You dare speak of character. Open your eyes to
    nm
    she looked like the whack-a-mole character during that "speech" the other night..
    nm
    I think it shows character on Obama's part and I pray for her comfort and healing if that is God&
    and for comfort and peace for her family.
    Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.

    Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger.


    So you and your daughter have no problem with people who wish for people and their children sm
    to burn in hell, call people's children ugly, etc. etc.  Well, you might not BE gt, but you might as well be.  Even the liberals don't agree with gt, or hadn't you noticed?  You might want to check that out and while you are at it, the conservative board has been a regular play pen since the liberals stopped their hateful dive bombing.  In fact, some really good conversations are taking place over there between both sides, which DOES NOT happen on this site. 
    Bored people are BORING people.
    nm
    Is that how your people justify killing people?

    Something I've got to say

    I left this board a while back for a period of time due to the harassing emails I was getting from the former owner of this site.  It finally stopped when I told her that in the 10 years I had had email service I had never received such harassing or threatening emails and come to think of it, prior to her emails to me I had never received ANY harassing or threatening emails.  I told her if they didn't stop that I would find the proper resources to report her conduct.  She was angry because myself and two other posters were emailing to each other upset about the rampant deletion of liberal posts.  Apparently when we used the initial MTstars email form she was reading them.  In the course of her emailing me she also told one very obvious and easily discovered lie.  The whole thing was creepy.


    Just wanted to get that off my chest. 


    Yes, I certainly would. I've seen a lot of sm
    so-called religious people do some very non-religious things.  Remember, an atheist does not believe in Satan or worship the devil either, it just means that they do not believe in God, any God.  Also, they may perhaps just not believe in organized religion.
    You really believe that? Hey, I've got a really - sm
    cool-looking, orange-colored bridge in San Francisco I'll sell ya really CHEAP. It's a little old and rusty, but polish it up a little, and you could probably resell it on ebay and make yourself a tidy profit. And profit's what you guys are all about, right?
    Well, I've had it. sm

    The hate that flies on this board is absolutely unbearable. I came to this board to compare issues of both parties and what do I see? A few people trying to give facts and get bombarded with HATE. I feel sorry for them and so CHILDISH.


    What is worse is that some posters are falling into the trap by answering with just as hateful messages.


    I am going happily on my way to find another place to compare issues and it WON'T BE WITH TRASH MEDIA as some are trying to force down my throat.


    My mind has probably been made up for this election and I certainly won't be voting for Obama since I've seen some posters spew their hate against the republicans, although I do like Biden.


    It's a shame.


    That's what I've been trying to do --

    gain information.  It's very difficult to get accurate information without all the slams.  Any suggestions on good websites to review these topics of interest and what each candidate's stand is on each?  I've started watching CNN.  I have to admit, I was really a Hillary supporter and now that Obama's on the ticket instead, I just don't know which evil is worse.  I thank you for your input and I will continue to delve into this mess until I can come up with my own conclusion.  I'm just trying to gain information from all angles, not relying on just 1 opinion.  I asked the question below of everyone, but no one responded. 


    Does no one know the answer?  Is it ridiculous of me to think that the resolution to this crisis should not dig into my pockets?  I personally feel that the people who got those bonuses should be made to give them back, that they should be paying fines to offset this mess since they were the ones cooking the books for the bonuses. 


    Yes, and that is exactly what I've been saying
    one is no better than the other.