Those are ethnic Alaskan names, part of her heritage and where she was raised...
Posted By: sam on 2008-09-01
In Reply to: actually what you name your children speaks - volumes about you
do you REALLY want to get into a discussion about ethnic names when your candidate is named Barack Hussein Obama?
Can we please dump this ridiculous issue? He was named because his parents were proud of their heritage. So are Sarah Palin's children.
Good grief!! Unbelievable!!
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My hyphenated heritage would be
German-Irish-English-Welsh-Scottish-French-American. Whew! I feel better.
I used to date a guy who called himself a German-Irish Jewish-Catholic.
Dems wrestle with ethnic problems.
Double message: Is anybody in agreement Murtha needs a psych eval? After his 2 outrageous statements during and after the election, now I know why he is so outspoken. I can't imagine ever voting for him after the first statement he made before the election (which I won't go into here because it's inflammatory).
It states right in the article that "Murtha is one of Pelosi’s closest political allies in the House, and his support was crucial in helping her defeat now Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) in their 2004 battle to become Democratic leader."
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17899.html
So did Obama. The search for Black identity, heritage,
Renewing American Leadership: Foreign Affairs. He also made contributions to The State of Black America, Portrait of a Black male. Whether you realize it or not, these subjects are of interest many Americans and Transcend gender, race, ethnicity and religion.
Colbert Report: Senator Allen and His Ethnic Friends
This is sooooo funny. When I first saw the clip of Allen's Macaca comment, I actually emailed the Colbert Report and wrote, **Help. Senator Allen needs Stephen's help in getting some new ethnic friends** because this true story reminded me so much of the comedic segments on the Colbert Report regarding Stephen's search for a new **black friend.** I think they call this life imitating art! LoL!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
It still has nothing to do with Alaskan wildlife!
I'm Alaskan, not American. I've got no use for
Alaskan Independent Pary direct quote from the VP pick.
This article is about Alaskan oil production in general...
It is not specific to ANWR. It also leaves out a lot of facts - there are also native groups very much AGAINST the ANWR - it only mentions that some support. PLEASE provide nonpartisan and balanced information....PLEASE.
Found this on Alaskan Independence Party
website. I'm sorry, the complete quote is "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."
I repeat...she mentioned upholding the Alaskan...
constitution twice. If she was one of "them" that is NOT what she would have said. Dailykos is a swamp with no bottom. They broke the nastiness about Palin's youngest child actually being the daughter's and ran with it, and the stuff there was vile. If that is "liberal opinion," and that is what you want to identify with, fine by me. Obama repudiated it...but he took their money.
Oh my, their leader was MURDERED. How many unexplained deaths surround the Clintons? Do we really want to go there?
Obama consorted with a known unapologetic anarchist/terrorist, William Ayers. And took money from him at a fundraiser at Ayer's house. So if you are going to blame Palin for making a video speech to this group, and not blame Obama for going to the house and taking the money of a man who bombed the Pentagon and police stations and caused deaths...does the term double standard ring any bells here?
Opinion of another Alaskan re: Sarah Palin...
From: Deb Frost in Alaska
[on having been asked, after the announcement: ¡°WOW ¡ what¡¯s your take on this? Do you like her as your Governor?¡±]
Sarah Palin is the US¡¯s answer to Margaret Thatcher! Anyone who thinks she cannot handle the job or deal briskly and efficiently with ANY issue, including foreign governments ¡ well, they haven¡¯t met our Sarah.
As an Alaskan resident as well as a resident of Wasilla, AK, where Sarah Palin was at one time Mayor ¡ I can speak with confidence. Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska is exactly what she portrayed during her introduction this morning and exactly what our US Government needs. She is ethical to a fault (if there is such a thing), a refreshing change to the status-quo and as smart and determined a PERSON (gender really isn¡¯t an issue here as far as I¡¯m concerned) as anyone could ask for at the head of government.
Sarah is no naive ¡¯small town mayor¡¯ ¨C she just *started out* there. BTW, as Mayor of Wasilla, she brought this ¡¯small town¡¯ through a lot of GOOD changes and left it at the end of her term having grown to the 4th largest CITY in Alaska ¨C a lot of growth and a stronger economic base than ever before.
She has EXECTUTIVE experience *running a government* (something NONE of the other candidates can actually boast, even John McCain) as Governor of Alaska and got there by defeating the *incumbent* Republican Governor, who was definitely part of the ¡®old school¡¯ and who WAS very much in the pocket of the big oil companies. We in Alaska wanted change ¨C and we got it in the person of Sarah Palin!
Sarah Palin is everything she looks to be and more. Her approval rating as Governor of Alaska has been as high as 95% and is currently leveled out consistently in the upper 80 percentile throughout the state (and in both parties) - the HIGHEST approval rating of ANY sitting Governor.
Sarah has been turning around corruption in the Legislature of Alaska - turning things on their ear for that matter; cutting spending in spite of the increased income the state is currently receiving due to the high oil prices - she has insisted on putting a huge amount of the ¡®windfall¡¯ into savings for the future rather than spending, spending, spending - and has insisted from the get-go on what she refers to as ¡®honest, ethical and transparent governing¡¯ - no more closed door meetings and dealings - the big oil companies thought she would be a pushover and have learned better to their chagrin.
She understands the ¡®real people¡¯ and the economic issues we all face (Alaskans along with the rest of the country) - she was one of ¡®us¡¯ not long ago. Rather than passing useless ¡®laws¡¯ or throwing money at pet projects, she (most recently) temporarily suspended the state gas tax (on gasoline at the pumps, fuel oil and natural gas for homes, etc.) and has ordered checks issued to ALL residents of Alaska this fall in an attempt to assist with the burden of high fuel costs for the upcoming winter. I could go on and on, but that¡¯s enough for now. She isn¡¯t doing these things to be popular ¨C she is doing it because her constituents are HURTING financially and she can help.
She became Governor of Alaska by defeating the Incumbent Republican Governor and doing it *without* the money or the support of the Republican Party, which was amazing in itself - and she won by a landslide. The ¡®powers that be¡¯ at that time totally underestimated Sarah and learned better the hard way. She has done exactly what she claimed she was going to do and is just as popular today as the day she was elected - perhaps more so since even the Democrats up here seem to like her - she works well with both sides in the Legislature here.
Sarah ¡®belongs¡¯ to us (Alaskans) ¡ and although we are going to be terribly sorry to see her leave before she finishes the job she started here (two years ago) straightening out OUR State ¡ we understand she is needed for a bigger purpose and hopefully her Lt. Governor will be able to fill her shoes here and continue the job.
As for worrying about what would happen if McCain were to die or step down or whatever ¡ Up here in AK we¡¯ve only been wondering how long we would be able to KEEP Sarah in Alaska and have seen her as our first woman President of the USA from the start. It¡¯s always been a matter of whether she would wait until the end of her TWO terms as Governor (no doubt at ALL that she would be re-elected if she ran for a second term at the end of her current term) ¡ or end up in Washington sooner. She could do the job TODAY.
Personally, I feel a lot better about McCain now that I know he has someone as savvy, as strong, as ethical and as steady as Sarah at his back. She will be an excellent Vice President ¡ and my guess is she will be our US Republican Presidential candidate in four years - AND by then the country will KNOW her ¨C will love and respect her as we do here - and she¡¯ll win by as much of a landslide as she did here in Alaska. I only wonder if McCain has a clue what he is unleashing on the US of A. She is going to be a fresh wind, but also a strong wind.
Is that enough of an endorsement? If not, I¡¯ll add this ¡ Jerry and I have for many years felt the best ¡®vote¡¯ was to vote for the lesser of two ¡®evils¡¯ and hope they didn¡¯t do too much damage. Two years ago during our State Governor¡¯s race was the first time EVER that we actually asked for not just a little sign to put in our yard showing our support of our candidate (something we¡¯ve never felt the desire to do at all before) - we asked for a full 4¡ä x 8¡ä ¡®SARAH PALIN FOR GOVERNOR!¡¯ sign and were proud to have it. She hasn¡¯t let us or Alaska down. She will do the same for the USA if given the opportunity.
Deb Frost in Alaska
Debbie & Jerry Frost
Wasilla, AK 99652
(907) 357-3060
Sarah as in Palin. Idears as in charming Alaskan colloquialism.
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only part saved was the ignorant part
You can read the whole article. This quote was saved to show what she said that was so stupid.
You mean like his mom and grandmother who raised him?
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This is the question being raised? Where would
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from his teens on he was raised by maternal
I just read he was raised by his maternal white grandparents from his teen years to adulthood and all thru college....
But that's not what I meant.....I meant when he is campaigning (I should have made that more clear in the last post) - in every state - I see a predominance of white people. I do not believe white people are a majority today and if so many like/love Obama, how come from state-to-state I MAINLY see whites? Again, this is strictly a curious question and not the least bit racist intended........I'm white....
I know black people who are voting for him, personally and famous, voting for him - but on TV and in the campaign only state-to-state, I only see whites...
She has raised most all her kids while in some form...
of public service. I think she is fully capable of raising this one. I see no evidence to the contrary.
Come on now...are you saying that if the Obamas had a down's child and he was elected that Michelle should just stay in the white house and raise him and not do what the first ladies normally do? They travel, they give speeches, yada yada.
Palin's husband will be of help. It's not like she is going to be in DC, just she and Trig with no help whatsoever.
Yes, he is a down's baby, but he is perfectly healthy in every other way.
Well, so far the Dems have raised as issues...
Sarah palin's pregnant daughter and her pastor. Anyone who talked about obama's pastor got sliced and diced. Talk about gutter politics. And glaring double standard.
Whatever Palin is, she is NOT a Marxist/socialist, and it is patently obvious the change Obama wants...as David ALinsky stands by and cheers.
In reply to the concerns you raised.
My first reaction when reading your post was one of curiosity. I was an IC during the latter Clinton years and I do not recall paying 40% of my earnings to tax. What I remember was an aggregate tax payment composed of income tax, social security tax and self-employment tax, which essentially represented a burden I shouldered as an IC that compensated for the lack of employer contribution to SS, Medicare and FICA. To my knowledge, this tax structure has not changed since then for ICs. I also remember paying my taxes quarterly, and being responsible for calculating enough tax not only to cover my required amounts, but also to pay in extra each time if I wanted to generate a return at the end of the year. I made a decision NOT to be an independent contractor because I was a single parent with a mortgage. The self-employment levy felt like double tax to me as compared to what I had been accustomed to as an employee and, most definitely the total percentage of tax burden as an IC was greater than that of a full employee status.
On checking my returns from those years (which I still keep in the house) I find the total tax burden I had for all the components of my tax liability amounted to 27%. I am wondering if you did not get a return back then because you did not contribute more than the minimum rate during the course of the year and that later on, your contributions did allow you to have a return. Also, to account for the lower rate during Bush years, did your family situation change between Clinton years and Bush years, did you get married, have children, add an earned income tax credit deduction, add dependents, start itemizing your taxes. All these changes would account for a lower percentage rate of your tax liability, thus allowing for a return.
I am also wondering why you would look back instead of forward when assessing the issue of whether or not you will be "taxed more." Have you read Obama's tax plan? If not, please go to this link and take a look. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#tax-relief
Essentially this is what you will find (please excuse the format challenges of cut and paste).
Provide Middle Class Americans Tax Relief
Obama will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families to offset the payroll tax they pay.
• Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The "Making Work Pay" tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
• Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less than $50,000: Barack Obama will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This proposal will eliminate income taxes for 7 million seniors and provide these seniors with an average savings of $1,400 each year. Under the Obama plan, 27 million American seniors will also not need to file an income tax return.
• Simplify Tax Filings for Middle Class Americans: Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes. Obama will ensure that the IRS uses the information it already gets from banks and employers to give taxpayers the option of pre-filled tax forms to verify, sign and return. Experts estimate that the Obama proposal will save Americans up to 200 million total hours of work and aggravation and up to $2 billion in tax preparer fees.
It also might be worthwhile to check out the plan on the economy here
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/
Scroll down to At a Glance and browse the links of interest to you.
Here's the link for healthcare
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
Again, scroll down to At a Glance and select links of interest.
I have provided Obama website links because you expressed doubts about democratic policy. McCain's website also should have similar information available on these issues as well for your comparison. After reviewing the information (if you were not already familiar with it), ask yourself where the information is coming from that is making you fearful that your taxes will be raised. I would really be interested in any response you may feel inclined to post in this regard. On a personal note, I will not be trusting McCain with the economy or with handling my HARD EARNED tax money. I do NOT want one more single penny to be used to fund the war, bankroll Israel's apartheid and nuclear weapons arsenal, prop up our struggling corporations or trickle up into the pockets of the richest among us in the form of continued Bush tax cuts to the rich, which McCain has openly stated he will continue if elected.
So what? I know people that were raised as practicing -
witches. Doesn't mean they're all gonna drop a house on someone.
He was raised by his "white" grandmother.
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Congratulations, you have obviously raised your daughter right.
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Born and raised in Chatta
Left there years ago but still visit some, went to high school there, Red Bank. I still get the News Free Press on line to make sure everything on the up and up there.
My children have always been raised with boundries . . . s/m
and consequences, and that's why they are exceptionally ethical, compassionate young adults, straight-A students, and, in general, wonderful human beings well on their way to being productive, responsible grown adults. I am their parent first, always. I have instilled them with the information and tools to make wise decisions, and this seems to be working well for me and them.
Other names.......
I posted a couple of times after sam, if those are the "other times" you think she was answering herself. She was not.....there are others who agree with her.
But, you have a point, no need to bring it up anymore, as it seems to be a waste of time on some.
NAMES
the shelley, chele, cheele, huh, and NM situation is causing a problem for me! what names ARE available????
names
maybe we should just start putting believer and atheist in the name slot!
Names?
Please post documentation to back this up. They were APPOINTEES? Well, we could have them hang ten and corrupt the entire country like Cheney and Rumsfeld did - they were a promising duo, now weren't they? You ever hear dubya apologize and admit a mistake? Hahahahahaha!
Well my son is being raised in an all white family (stepdad)
I don't know how Obama was raised but maybe it has something to do with it.
and he was raised by his radical islamic stepfather
Be very aware..........
and if his wife is a member of the CFR - trust me, he's involved too.....
New World Order - New American Century - Skull and Bones - read up on it.........
You're confused - she was raised in Idaho
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I was raised by very conservative, strict parents. - sm
But once you get beyond high school, and into college or out into the working world, you meet so many different kinds of people. I'd be lying if I said I got along with all of them (or even maybe most of them?) But in my own experience, beginning back when I met the first gay person I ever knew (he had his own horse, and he let me ride it all the time), my personal friendships have been good ones. I wouldn't trade any of them for anything, and feel sad when I think they sometimes have to live certain aspects of their lives as ƈnd-class' citizens. Especially when each and every one contributes so much to society, and to life in general. So I really have no idea, as well.
I am not afraid of a black man raised by whites. sm
Flame away, but.....What I AM afraid of is people who cannot see the forest for the trees, those who are so bamboozled by his smoke and mirrors and snake oil, how this "black man raised by whites" is going to pay for all the pie-in-the sky promises he is making. We all know socialized medicine does not work. Look at all the Canadians coming here for their medical procedures etc. How much money can he take from the "have's" to give to the "have not's?" So if I make over $250K, then I have to give money to somebody who doesn't work and will never work? And don't even get me started on his stand on the abortion issue. Conversely, McCain does not have all the answers either. I don't know who would or who does, but I do know this: It is not Obama.
Please address the 4 key points raised in terms of
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Hubert Hoover raised taxes
during an economic recession and that lead to The Great Depression. Obama is the one wanting to raise taxes here. He wants to raise taxes on companies who are already hurting right now because of the financial crisis. This will lead to less jobs and more companies closing and going out of the country. FDR introduced several new deals which were government assistant programs that were supposed to help people during the great depression and those new deals have actually been proven to lengthen the duration of the great depression.....not help it. Obama wants to introduce new government assisted programs. To me....Obama will be the absolutely worst thing for this economy.
As for Sarah Palin....at least she has run something which is more than I can say for Obama. He may have been a community organizer but the buildings in his region that were for low-income families, like the ones owned by Rezko, were often without heat and were horrible living conditions. Sarah Palin has run a state where she is very popular. She has cut spending in her state. She has no problem standing up to her own party. These are very admirable things. Yes, Obama has been on the senate but he hasn't been on there very long. His experience of running things and making executive decisions is seriously lacking. Instead of cutting back government spending, he wants to raise our taxes. Gee....that sounds like change, huh. A man looking out for us little people.....whatever. Obama has never once stood up against his own party. His own running mate said he didn't have the experience. The amount of pork Obama has spent government money on is just outrageous. The key to this whole thing is to get government under control and stop the spending.....not let government get bigger and control more of OUR money.
Exactly how many names are you going to use to post, gt? sm
Let's talk about ridculous, sweetie. 
I can think of more fitting names for something you
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I think he is right....I just think he should have named names...
the entire congress is not responsible for where we find ourselves today. They never had the opportunity to vote on the bill that would have prevented this because Dodd and Frank killed it in committee. Other than that...I think he is right. They do need to be honest with us when they ask us to pony up that kind of money and at least demonstrate how it will fix it and what they are going to do to avoid it in the future. Good for Senator DeMint.
fed reserve names
http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com:80/2008/05/who-owns-federal-reserve.html
Hasn't really changed much.
nite nite
She is here, just posting under different names. (nm)
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Oh please....then give me a few other names of his...sm
other friends, you know, the ones not on this list?
Hmmmmm....methinks there's gonna be some of that deafening silence one poster keeps ranting about....
Obama has no other ties that he wishes to share....so he's a blank slate...
Don't think so......
His slate was filled with all those other people, and now that he wipes it clean and claims no association.....
The slate is blank, just like the empty suit.
If I'm wrong, please show me and name his friends for the last 20, 30 years?
Thanks in advance.
I just think the names are unnecessary. nm
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I'd like some names of politicans
that gave lots to charities. I find all politicians to be greedy.
I never call names....
I am a refined democrat.
calling names
 Vie:
I don't know which side of the bed or as I tend to think you crawled out UNDER, but to call people names on top of your irrational delusional rants about who said what here - you are truly asking to bet your feelings hurt here. As far as your comment about 'what are you going to say when you stand in front of God' to "M/SM"; I am sure they will say that they are glad they are NOT YOU. Don't go away mad - just go away..
Sorry, but I saw no shocking names.
Who shocked you by making the list?
Interesting...once again who are the names?
Seems Obama always has questionable people behind him..... funny they NEVER have names! Wonder why that is...............most of us already know that answer!
http://obamalies.net/obama-lies-directory
In this I disgree! There is only one God, he has many names, but it is the same God
I also disagree that only Christians will go through 'the pearly gates.'
Who knows what religion is the right one?
Either they are all wrong or they are all right.
There is only one God.
Suggest independent researching of the issues raised here...
they are valid and should be looked at. Thanks for posting.
Obama raised as practicing Muslim - see link
This is not in ancient times. He was a practicing Muslim as an adult. Question is, is he still a practicing muslim hiding as a Christian. See link.
http://americanpowerblog.blogspot.com/2008/06/obama-grew-up-muslim-half-brother.html
Raised by a Muslim father and Christian mother
It is a crock, it was refuted. You live in a very small world with no understanding of other cultures. That picture shows me that when he returned to Kenya to meet his father's family, he put on clothing that other Kenyan men wear...Christians and Muslims alike. When I lived in the Middle East with my husband and his family, I wore Hijab and covered my head out of RESPECT for them and for the people whose country I was visiting. Respect obviously is a foreign concept to you. Christiane Amanpour is a Christian who travels to the Middle East and when she does, she covers her head and wears hijab, like she did when she made God's Warriors. Barbara Walters wears a head cover when traveling in the Middle East. She is a Christian. I will not waste my time citing any other examples to support my claim that you are so small minded, bigoted and misinformed it borders on the criminal.
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