This taste of your own medicine has been
Posted By: A long time coming, and so well deserved. nm on 2008-08-31
In Reply to: Yeah, resort to name calling...typical - sam
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Is it time for your medicine?
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I hear a lot about medicine....(sm)
but that doesn't make me a doctor, and I certainly would not try to treat a patient. The whole idea of reporting the news is just that....reporting....as opposed to making the news.
Nobody is saying socialized medicine
they are saying set up an insurance program that we would still have to pay for!
Can someone please explain to me the "socialized medicine"?
What do you mean about socialized medicine that Obama wants?
Obama is not going for socialized medicine -
Obama's plan just involves making sure affordable insurance is available for everyone. He is not mandating that you all use government hospitals or government sponsored clinics. He is saying that he wants insurance for every person in America.
Under the socialized medicine system........sm
which is basically what Obama is pushing for, you might get some health care, but I sure hope you don't need a hip replacement or other specialized care. Just ask our neighbors to the north how long they have to wait for a hip replacement.
Brian Day, former president of the Canadian Medical Association, remarked that Canada "is a country in which dogs can get a hip replacement in under a week and in which humans can wait two to three years."
Medicines will be rationed and forget about getting treatment for pesky things like cancer if you are over a certain age or have other comorbid conditions.
I understand your view of 'socalized' medicine
I have heard the horror stories from people from Canada, so you'll get no argument from me there.
When you have group coverage through an employer, they cannot deny you. However, I have found that some still require you to wait out the pre-existing condition time period (usually 12 months). As most employers require full-time for insurance benefits, you HAVE to work full time for this.
If you are trying to get individual health insurance on your own, I found out the hard way that they can absolutely deny you. (I did not know that, I was naive I guess and thought that they could use the pre-existing condition clause, but I never knew they could flat out deny you). That is the problem I have - that people can be totally denied. I have no problem paying for insurance for 12 months while the bills continue to rack up because they're not covered, I understand that it's business. However, I don't think they should be able to deny people based on a condition or illness (isn't that descrimination?) I think the insurance companies should have some limits on what they are allowed to do, such as denying coverage.
There are also other issues with the insurance company essentially dictating patient care, but it's getting late and I'm sleepy! :) Thanks for explaining your view!
I think this was in bad taste, but...
This took place in West Hollywood, California, which is a predominantly gay community. It was done as a Halloween decoration. It comes as a result of Sarah Palin trying to force her beliefs upon the gay community when she has no right to do so.
Again, let me reiterate, I think this was in very bad taste.
No bad taste would be
Kicking out guests in the middle of their stay just because the annointed one said "I'm here, it's mine" would have been bad taste. But maybe you think they should have been yanked out of bed in the middle of the night just to kick them out in the streets to give it to the O. There are plenty of ritzy hotels for the O and I'm sure he had no problems finding another place.
Bad taste is thinking something is owed to you when its not.
Anyone who thinks that socialized medicine is a good idea
should try out military medicine for awhile and see how it goes!
They are both in very, very poor taste and should be
taken down. It is truly amazing what some people will do.
Never developed a taste for
'tree rats'. Find 'em a little tough and stringy.
I thought that was in poor taste.
And still think so.
Ok....I just thought it was in kinda bad taste.
But...whatever floats your boat. I did think I would never hear anything negative about the left leaning from him...and I never expected to hear him say that. Oh well...whatever floats your boat. Enjoy! :)
If that was a joke, it was in very poor taste!
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Fine. I just thought it was bad taste, and I am no Obama fan.
But whatever I guess.
Actually, Barack Obama has quite eclectic taste!
Obama lists his favorite music as Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Bob Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Johann Sebastian Bach (cello suites), and The Fugees.
Personally, I love the song SuperFreak!
Even most liberals present thought it was poor taste.
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Problem is this....Once they get a taste of the money and power...WHAM!...sm
So much for values. They are bought off by the highest bidder.
It takes a strong character not to buy into it all, like Kinky Friedman, maybe (running independent in the Texas governer race).
No more than the bad taste you are displaying being so nitpickey over this matter..funny you didn
have anything to say about how the outgoing President treated Obama when he would not allow him and his family to stay at the Blair House which is customary for an incoming President reside until he takes office because Bush had a friend of his their (I believe it was some politician) from Australia staying there. Now THAT is definitely in bad taste.
And as to socialized medicine leading to a socialized country....
it has to start somewhere, piglet. It has already started in this country with all the entitlements. Adding health care is one more nail in the proverbial coffin. And as you seek to move entitlements further and further up the income ladder, you create a wider disparity and destroy the middle class. That is how it starts. That is how it started everywhere. A good idea gone bad, just like so many others. The more power you place in one area, and the more choice you take away from the "people" the closer you get. It looks good to start. Then pretty soon the government starts to control businesses, so that eventually everyone "works for the government." When people begin to wake up and realize what is going on...and start to protest it or try to bring it into the light...then the government starts to control media (aka Chavez shutting down a TV station). It is not a leap. It is a slow, malicious process. Socialist Germany started out that way. Germans thought it was great, and it was, until Hitler rose to power. Then it was too late. When you concentrate too much power over the everyday lives of the people and make them dependent upon the state for the necessities...we are already headed that way with people dependent for income, and now you want them to be depenent for health care as well. What's next, Piglet? You tell me.
I have lived to see enough "that would never happens" that DID happen to know. And if you will read history, you will see that what I have said is borne out. In a person's desire to have everything provided for them, every time that happens, control is relinquished to the government. That is where it starts.
I no more understand it than I understand the extremely poor taste and blasphemous sm
post with pictures on the other board. Are we clear now?
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