This is exactly the type of comments we don't need.

• FOR THE SICK.....(sm) - Just the big bad
  • Will Days of Our Lives be on tomorrow? - fishbowl
  • MY TV is off, and has been, it doesn't take away the "sick" party going on - Emily Ayn
    • I have no problem with the amount of money - being spent.
      • how is it going right back into the economy? - Emily Ayn
        • No, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all. - sm
          • sorry where did you get those figures? - Emily Ayn
            • Bush Inauguration Costs - sm
  • We did...turn off the TV, that is. Still splattered over the Internet, tho... - .
  • This is exactly the type of comments we don't need. - Backwards typist
    • Please excuse me....(sm) - Just the big bad
    • I agree - OP should take this comment to the faith board. -nm - Kaydie
      • your post makes no - Ditzel
        • Worship should be on the faith board - Kaydie
          • turn off your TV - NM
            • What in tarnation are you talking about - see message - Kaydie
              • you explained quicker than i did :) - Emily Ayn
                • My gosh - it's like being back in kindergarten - Kaydie
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I would have stated who and what they are debating. Kerry was furious. Sen. Sessions (R-AL) doesn't seem to want to work with anyone on "the other side" either.

Sen. John Ensign (R-Nevada) had a really good speech. He went through the whys and why nots of how this whole mess started. He is willing to work with the other side but he stated that the other side has to work with them, too, which so far, is not happening. He stated that the stimulus package was pushed through the house without any debate, without anyone seeing exactly what was in it, and it was the wrong thing to do. He doesn't care that O wants this passed by President's day. It has to be worked out slowly so they don't make the same kind of mistakes that they did with the last stimulus package.

It's not just tax cuts the pubs want. They want some of the spending in there, too, just not the most ridiculous items. They want the infrastructure in but not just 3% of the total package spread out over 4 years. It wouldn't make much of a difference.

Now, on another subject, I had MSNBC on another TV. Surprisingly, they were only allowing sound for the debate when the democrats are speaking.  Hmmm.

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North, get a grip woman!   Are you and A. Nonymous some kind of comedy team?  You’re feeding the straight lines to AN and she (he?) is getting the laughs?  Wow are your buttons easy to push.  I sure hope AN (the drunken cheap scotch/irish nazi) does not stop posting, because this is just too much fun to watch.  

Yeah we get it.  You’re black,  educated and you speak English well.  You write well so you probably speak OK too.  But you just don’t read so great.  Where in any of these posts did AN say you personally were uneducated or did not have a work ethic?  Where is the part about you not speaking English?  Did you see the word ebonics and just stop reading?  If you care so much about all people why are you not standing up for the other two groups mentioned - do you have something against hispanics and hillbillies? 

You have to be very worn out from carrying around that big chip on your shoulder.  Why don’t you put it down and stop taking offense at remarks that were obviously not aimed your way?   The topic was career mooches and freeloaders.  You seem to be an MT and have a job or be on the site looking for one.  Nobody called you anything - why so defensive? 

PK, I agree with some things you say, certainly not all, but you talk about the righer Bush goes the lefter you go.  My question is this, do you think it's healthy to let ONE PERSON change your whole ideology?  I think that's way too much influence for one person to have on your life.  I don't think it's healthy.  You are most likely a wonderful person, but like many on the left you have let the fear of Bush really cloud your view.  I don't think he's the greatest president we have ever had, but he's certainly on the scoundrel that you and others here make him out to be.  I think the problem with leftward thinking as a whole is that it basically says I, as an upper middle-class taxpayer, have to take care of everyone's woes even if their woes are self-inflicted, criminally obtained, or the result of being just plain lazy.  Really, in the end when I stand before God I'm only going to have to answer for myself.   I do give to others, so I'm not a selfish hog, but I don't think its right for the government to tell me I have to take care of someone else who is capable taking care of themselves.  I'm for helping the truly downtrodden, incapacitated, and mentally disabled, but social programs as a whole are sham and downright theft.  I don't want that for Iraq or America.  I think it's far time that Americans start taking responsibility for themselves and get over the victim mentality and expecting the nanny state to do everything for us.

Anyway, your post was enlightening, and really the first non-angry post I've ever read from you. 

Didn't realize it was a nasty attack, thought I was addressing a point you made about videos being truth and the written word not the truth.  Thinking back on the history of propanda films in this country as well as others I disagreed and was trying to use logic.....and some humor. 

As far as cut and paste, unless the board administrator says we can no longer do this I will probably continue to do it on the LIBERAL board, especially if it provides documentation for a point I am trying to make.  Researchers and newspapers do it often.  That said, here's another cut and paste quote, but don't know who said it:

The US has become the new Webster's definition of irony: Even though most Americans, most American lawmakers, and most American military commanders had long protested the usefulness of their presence in Iraq, ironically they still considered their own government a democracy.

This reminds me of Cheney commenting that basically he didn't care what the American people thought of the war or what they wanted.  I thought we were supposed to be his boss.....

This is one thread I can't help posting to.  First, I want to say that I absolutely hate the new p.c. term "clearly."  Clearly this, clearly that from news anchors, talk show hosts, you name it.

As for the comment by Michelle Obama, if she is proud of her country "for the first time" then she's running a little late in my opinion.  I've been a Democrat all my life but no more.  The color of the candidate's skin has nothing whatsoever to do with anything, I don't care if he is pea green with orange stripes.  Obama scares the bejeezers out of me!!  Read about him and listen to him and learn.  I'll not be voting for him.  I would not have voted for Hillary.  Why?  Doesn't matter if she's a woman or not.  I have no respect for her.  I certainly don't admire her for standing by her man.

As for McCain, his stupid comment I think speaks for itself and doesn't show a lot of intelligence.  Secondly, he is too old.  While I admire his military service, I think if we like the condition of our country now, we'll enjoy more of the same and worse under his leadership.

Listen to both politicians.  They both want to give amnesty to illegal aliens and I am dead set against it.  Reagan (and I'm no fan of his either) tried that and now we have at least twice as many to deal with as we did then.  It is purely political, get the votes whereever they can. 

Then there's the matter of our country being sold off to foreign investors one piece at a time and the huge national debt to China.  What happens when they call in their mortgage?  Will they demand, California, Texas and maybe Alaska or will they just take over the whole danged country?

As for voting in this election?????  I probably will  just stay home for the first time since I've been old enough to vote.  We don't even have a candidate to vote for that is the lesser of the evils in my opinion.  I think the last good leader we had was Harry Truman, "walk softly and carry a big stick."