They have done nothing to incite violence

Posted By: New Englander on 2009-04-08
In Reply to: Maybe we should put that patriot act to good use....(sm) - Just the big bad

I may not agree with them all the time (and I watch all the shows), but I have never seen anything where they are inciting violence.

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Maybe we should put that patriot act to good use....(sm) - Just the big bad
- They have done nothing to incite violence - New Englander
- Here ya go, BB. - Trigger Happy
  - Excellent research - thank you for posting (nm) - New Englander
- So, we're on this trans-oceanic flight - Mythbuster
- You take one conspiracy nutjob - Trigger Happy
  - This isn't about Bush...(sm) - Just the big bad
    - I just do not see how you get that - Trigger Happy
      - I don't expect you to "get it."...(nm) - Just the big bad
        I think you and a handful others are the - Trigger Happy
  - Thank you! That's BB's gig. Blame game - of Bush and Fox -gets really old.nm

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If it's a felony to incite a bank run, then
shouldn't these people on Wall Street be prosecuted? After all, if they hadn't done what they did to the economy, then we wouldn't have to withdraw our money.

The MSNBC crew does incite hate and fear
I guess you don't listen to them, or do you think it's okay for them to incite hate and fear, and cutting down everyone, disrespecting thousands upon thousands of Americans. They don't report objectively anymore. They've turned it into a station of hate and bitterness. Can't understand why because their fave won, but guess that's not good enough. Now they feel they have the right to condemn and belittle anyone who doesn't agree with them, which happens to be over 50% of the country (69M may have voted for him, but 234M did not - if you minus the people not eligible to vote that still leaves 174M that did not vote for him). MSNBC has turned their station into a huge political hate and nasty machine. They are disrespectful to anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Rush - I don't care for him and don't listen to him regularly like I used to but catch him every once in awhile. While I don't agree with some of what he has to say, he is just telling the truth trying to get people to wake up. He certainly does not incite violence. Neither does Michael Savage. Why in the world would you consider Savage republican? He is an independent and he is harsh to both sides. Unless you consider anyone who questions what is going on in the current administration a republican. There are plenty of democrats who do not like what is happening in their party but they are still democrats.

I don't think anyone on either side should be banned. If I don't like them I don't listen and I change the channel. Anyone who has the elitist attitude of who should be banned and who shouldn't ought to move to Cuba or some other communist/socialist country. I'm sure they would be welcome there. Here in America last I knew we were a free country, even though the current admin is working their hardest and fastest to change that.

Violence

Probably all of the Middle East has ties in some way to 9/11 and terrorism. Even Great Britain had terrorist cells as well as North Africa. We just can't invade/bomb them all, that will only further increase their hatred for us.

Most of the unrest in Iraq is not U.S.-mainland threatening terrorism, it is sectarian violence. The groups that are fighting each other, Sunni versus Shia, do not pose a threat to the U.S. mainland, never did. They only pose a threat to the Iraquis themselves.

The information you rely on is from a small and slanted informational source. The bigger picture would point toward a different set of facts than those you use to form your theories. So there will never be any agreement on this board between the far rights and the liberals.

I've seen violence too......
the Teamsters get VERY violent when scabs come in and take their jobs. Wouldn't you? I think "yes." Otherwise we wouldn't be talking about using guns to protect our food and our families.

Anarchy and violence in New Orleans

Lots of news that there just isn't enough help and the whole city is breaking down. Bush has turned down planes and able-bodied assistance from Canada and Russia as well as offers from many other countries. Says we can handle it ourselves. Folks in New Orleans say FEMA is there but totally unorganized and not providing enough help. I'm thinking this is in the U.S. and it's a MESS. What kind of message are we sending to the world?

I'm getting pretty darn uptight about this whole situation.

Liberals promote abortion......that is VIOLENCE!!
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Bill O'Reilly did not promote violence.

Liberals don't promote violence, huh? How about the gay rights protestors who physically knocked a cross out of an older woman's hands because how dare she oppose their opinion?

8 October 2005, Seattle, WA:
Veteran's Home Vandalized
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/243...html?source=rss

4 September 2005, Louisiana:
Democrat Senator Threatens Violence Against Bush
Mary Landrieu: I'll Punch Bush, 'Literally'

1 September 2005, National:
Leftist Radio Host Encourages Looting
Sean Hannity

25 April 2005, National:
Leftist Radio Threatens to Assassinate Bush
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=17878

17 February 2005, Portland, OR:
Former Pentagon Adviser Assaulted at University
Protester throws shoe at Richard Perle - Politics - MSNBC.com

24 January 2005, Milwaukee, WI:
Five Democrats Charged with Election-Day Tire Slashing
JS Online: 5 charged in GOP tire slashings

8 November 2004, San Francisco, CA:
Muslim/Democrat Mob Attacks College Republicans
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadA...le.asp?ID=15855

30 October 2004, Durango, CO:
Liberal Professor Assaults Conservative Student
http://www.durangoherald.com/asp-bin/artic...ews041030_1.htm

22 October 2004, Tuscon, AZ:
Conservative Commentator Assaulted at University
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/artic...ch22-ON-CP.html

5 October 2004, Orlando, FL:
Democrat Mob Storms GOP HQ, Injures Staffers
Protestors Ransack Bush/Cheney Headquarters In Orlando - Politics News Story - WKMG Orlando

October 2004, National:
A Pattern of Leftist Hatred
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=40898

17 September 2004, Huntington, WV:
3-Year-Old Girl Attacked by Democrat Thugs
Washington Times - Democrats accused of ripping Bush signs

20 March 2003, Madison, WI:
Republican Heaquarters Vandalized
JS Online: GOP headquarters in Madison hit with bricks, paint bombs

11 March 2003, Los Angeles, CA:
Peaceniks Destroy 9-11 Memorial
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=31473

1 April 2005
Violent leftist/Democrat physically assaults conservative Pat Buchanan at Western Michigan University
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/002026.html

13 February 1996
Liberals steal press run of conservative newspaper Carolina Review in an effort to preserve victory for their liberal candidate
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/colu.../16/12704.html

1 March 2002
Liberals steal entire press run of a monthly conservative publication at the University of California-Berkeley and harass and intimidate its staff
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=26652

30 November 2004
Entire run of the November issue of the Yale Free Press, a conservative student publication, was stolen over the Thanksgiving break
Yale Daily News - Editors say Yale Free Press stolen

October 1999
Liberals at California State University at Sacramento stole 3,000 copies of the student newspaper. They were enraged because the paper, The State Hornet, had published the picture of a Hispanic man being arrested and charged with resisting arrest at a football game.
Nat Hentoff

1992
Liberals vandalize offices of The Collegian at the University of Massachusetts
http://collegefreedom.org/95press.htm

Violence flares in Iran after election.
Look at MSNBC website. Lots of protests.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31238321/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/

TEHRAN, Iran - Riot police battled with protesters Saturday as officials announced that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had won a landslide election victory. His opponent denounced the results as "treason".

The violence broke out as Iran's interior minister said that Ahmadinejad had gained 62.6 percent of the vote.

NBC News reported "violent clashes" between rock-throwing protesters and police in the center of Tehran.
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ALSO, some think this election as voting fraud.

TEHRAN, Iran � Iran's Interior Ministry claimed hard-line incumbent President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was heading for a surprise landslide victory Saturday in the country's stormy presidential elections. But his pro-reform rival countered that he was the clear victor and accused authorities of voter fraud.

The dispute sharply boosted tensions and raised fears of a standoff after an intense monthlong race between the combative president and his main challenger, Mir Hossein Mousavi. A large turnout at the polls had boosted victory hopes for Mousavi, who is backed by a growing youth-oriented movement

because slander is the 1st stage of violence and abuse...sm
the next step is physical abuse, the next is murder.

As it happens so often.

Agreed. Teach no bullying or violence, period.
"Lifestyle acceptance" doesn't have to come into it at all. I don't have to accept anyone's lifestyle in order to learn that bullying and violence are not acceptable ways of expressing my disagreement with them.

You see, there's a conflation between the principle of "nonviolence" and "acceptance of lifestyles" going on here, and it's very, very calculated and it's very, very deliberate.

In fact, "acceptance" is really an inadequate basis for nonviolence - if you stop for a moment to think about it - because I am obliged to be nonviolent toward people whose lifestyles not even you would suggest that that I (or my children) should EVER "accept".

Unprovoked Israel on Palestinian settler violence caught on tape
http://sabbah.blip.tv/#1586762
Settler Violence in Hebron

http://sabbah.blip.tv/#1550798
Israeli Settler Shooting Palestinians in Hebron

http://sabbah.blip.tv/#999702
Jewish Settlers Attack Elderly Shepherd and His Wife

http://sabbah.blip.tv/#916017
More Settler Violence in Hebron

http://sabbah.blip.tv/#1653918
CNN Rick Sanchez report on who really broke the cease fire, 01/07/2009

There's a difference between inciting hate and inciting violence
I don't really even think that MSNBC incites hate, but that could be that I lean a little more left than right. I don't know what you know about Savage, but I do think he has been suspended a time or two for attempts to incite mob type violence. And I personally never said anybody should be banned from this country...the topic of this thread was Great Britain banning Savage. But there is a degree of hypocrisy coming from the right on this issue, though. You tell "us" (which is really pretty crazy because my politics are all over the place, left and right) that because we expressed our views, we should head for Russia, which, correct me if I'm misinterpreting this, seems to be like you are not in favor of "our" free speech.

Olbermann makes me laugh, I like Chris Mathews because he will occasionally surprise me and ask the tough questions. I didn't care for Rush before, but when he mocked Michael J. Fox's Parkinson's disease, I wrote him off forever. I find myself agreeing with Bill O on some social issues, at least until he gets a little too pompous. I just like looking at Anderson Cooper and don't care what he's saying, I'm buying it. For the most part, though, I listen to my local newscast and sometimes network news, but that's usually just so I know what Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert are talking about, who are my favorite source of news.

Not surprised at all by the violence. Only surprised
People are p****d, especially the middle class. They can't bend much further without snapping. My prediction is that if the US gov'mt. keeps letting all the bank and stockmarket criminals off with just a slap on the wrist, eventually the public is going to take matters into its own hands. If I were that guy who bilked people out of millions in that Ponzi scheme, I'd be very, very afraid. He should be in jail if for no other reason than his own protection. I'm willing to bet that in the coming year or two, all sorts of s**t is going to start hitting the proverbial fan.