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They are not murdering children - sheesh!!!!

Posted By: mt on 2009-03-07
In Reply to: If people aren't murdering children, then who is performing - the abortions? MsMT

Whether you want to call it murder that is your opinion. Embryos are not children. This is not a living breathing human being that has a mind, nerves, emotions or anything. That's like saying to eat eggs your are murdering baby chickens. When a child is born and is a breathing living fully developed human child and it is born and after it breaths air, and is killed then yes that is murder. Disposing of an egg is not murder, and it is probably the best thing that could happen to someone who is forced into a world of hate, unlove, and unwantedness. I guess it doesn't bother you one bit to see these children suffer because they have been born into a life of despair. Do you get a warm fuzzy feeling to know that a child will be miserable and may even want to commit suicide because they were born into a world where they are unloved and unwanted.

You really need to stop twisting reality into what you want to believe it is. Not every child is born into a loving family and people need to keep their nose out of where it doesn't belong.


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Murdering unborn children IS MY BUSINESS!!
If you really believe every murdered unborn child is because there were medical necessities, you really are living in la-la land!

I have had friends who have gone through being told after testing their babies were deformed, wouldn't live after birth, would have horrible deformities, etc., and out of 4 friends who have been told this, only ONE child truly had problems. That didn't stop them from having their child. They never thought about NOT having their child....after all, it was THEIR child!


If people aren't murdering children, then who is performing
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Sure, most all women who believe in murdering
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disgusting, lying murdering war criminals are at it again.
"We're so sorry about those civilians."  Killers of women, children and elders.  Occupation, starvation and now massacre in one of the world's most densely populated areas.  US and Israel are the only countries on the planet who think this disproportionate response is somehow justified. The most outrageous nation on the planet on the face of the earth, responsible for so much pain and suffering.  Outrageous.   Warped evil, brought to you by your tax dollars.  Their blood is on all our hands.   Flame away.  I don't care.  
Murdering near-term babies isn't violent?
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Um...well Bi(n La)den..sheesh,
just making an observation as many others will, I am sure.
Sheesh!

I can almost feel palpable hatred that Palin is so fond of inciting at her rallies.


I guess time is getting short, everyone keeps saying Obama will win, they're becoming very angry and the venom is spewing.  Too bad they just can't stick to the issues and must resort to attacking posters instead of issues.  I guess that just shows the extent of their desperation. 


Now, I don't know for sure if Obama will win.  I'm very hesitant about feeling too secure about that.  As long as there are the Karl Roves of the world and Diebold machines, anything can happen.


Sheesh....is there
anyone in D.C who pays taxes? 
Again with the liar. Sheesh is right. NM

You are kidding, right? Sheesh. NM

Sheesh.....you are delusional.
Pay attention here...Bill Clinton...liberal to the core...regime change in Iraq was hatched during HIS presidency. You can't deny that. Well, you can, but anyone who cares to check will see the truth of it. So...your last paragraph should be aimed at liberals. Apparently, regime change is a LIBERAL idea.

John F. Kennedy...another liberal and incidentally as I have said on many occasions a man I admire...started getting involved in Viet Nam to "stop the spread of communism." FORCING western ideas on those folks. So I guess invading other countries to start democracies must be a LIBERAL idea.

Your rationalizing aka just because they were enacted during a conservative government doesn't mean it was a conservative idea. That is a ridiculous statement. What it DOES mean is that conservatives cared enough about the idea, WHATEVER it was, to actually DO something about it other than TALK about it. Ideas are fine, ACTION is what counts.

Look, for whatever reason and Lord only knows why, I am going to try this one more time. I consider myself an American. Not a conservative, not a liberal, not a libertarian, a Ron Paul supporter, polka-dotted or criss-crossed. I don't have any group, person, club, party who tells me what to believe. You can call me whatever you want to, pigeon hole me however you like, to suit your agenda. It is what you are good at. It makes absolutely no difference to me what you think of me or what group you want to put me in.

As to justifying my beliefs? My dear, you are the one who keeps justifying, and I can show that every major change in this country from the start was enacted under what you call conservative, what I call deeply morally convicted people...and then YOU justify by saying doesn't matter if "conservatives" actually DID it, it was a LIBERAL idea.

Geezzzz....whatever, piglet. If that is the case, thank you for the idea, and YOU'RE WELCOME for ACTUALLY ENACTING THEM.

Sheesh. LOL. THE END.


And you are in theposition to know all before it happens...sheesh...

and the pubs KNEW EVERYTHING for these last eight years and did what was supposedly good for this country?.  One of many horrible things they did was push the average American worker out of the middle class while the fat cats got fatter, all the while thumbing their noses at us, not to mention the 'war' that never should have happened.   


Sheesh - this is what your happy about?
You love to see people in misery? You like to see people unhappy? And why because they are connected to a republican which many hold so much disdain for. You know if John Kerry, AL Gore, Bill Clinton were going through terrible times with their children no matter how much I dislike them I certainly wouldn't be so gleeful that their kids are going through this. And please spare me the "they were pawns or objects" because of so, so was Bidens kids, and you wouldn't be so gleeful about that.

As for this guy going around to the TV shows, who doesn't now adays...especially when your offered a million dollars for your story or to appear on the air.

There are more important things going on now - unemployment, housing crisis, financial crisis, war, and your gleeful that relatives of Sarah Palin are having personal difficulties.

Shameful is what I call it.
sheesh is right, sam, GIVE IT A REST!!!
if we talked about the weather, you would turn it into an abortion topic.  If we talked about fashion, you would turn it into an abortion topic.  If we talked about sports, well, you get it.  And WE GET IT.  Give it a blanking rest.
Sheesh. Well I am so glad you are happy....
come to pick the bones with the rest of the crew? Well, bon appetit. LOL. geez.
Of course you will. It's called spin. lol...sheesh.
nm
Sheesh! You have way too much time on your hands!

Not failures...favors. Sheesh. lol nm
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Sheesh louise people.
For the love of pete.....the fact that Obama wants to raise taxes on businesses and the fact that it won't keep jobs in American because it will be cheaper to take their business to other countries.....that isn't fox news tabloid.....that is common sense. 
Whattabuncha nay-sayers. Sheesh.
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Sheesh. Just asked a question.

You said:


"like a very bad itchy rash, or the smell of cow manure, he is EVERYWHERE, even to ignorant dems/independents who (OH MY GOD) get all the nes channels, C-SPAN, that the special Republicans can."


You're all hyped up today. Calm down.  I wasn't sure what you were saying and took it to mean C-Span was a garbage channel..


Sheesh! I messed up my own joke!

I wrote:  I said, "Well, let's see:  "Algia" means pain.  "Ceph" means pain, so pain in the head -- HEADACHE!"


Obviously, "ceph" means HEAD!


I just got out of the hospital (again for pancreatitis), and I believe MY "ceph" was left behind when I was typing my post.


Good thing I don't own a gun or I'd probably shoot myself in the foot.  LOL.


NOT the same thing - sheesh! - see message
How can you compare the two. I pay taxes as do the companies we work for.

Tupperware reps pay taxes.

Churches do not pay taxes.

Unless churches plan to pay taxes they should not be holding business meetings in their homes.
Sheesh....Clinton didn't go to funerals either....
and yes, soldiers died on his watch too (Somalia, Bosnia,etc). I did not see CNN covering flag-draped coffins then. Yes, more have died in Iraq; however, a soldier killed is a soldier killed. Clinton did not go to the funeral of that US serviceman who was killed and then his body dragged behind a Jeep in Somalia. Was that because Clinton felt guilty? Come on!! It is impossible for a President (ANY President) to show up at a private funeral without causing a media circus, and frankly, I would not want Bush there because along with him would come Cindy Sheehan, the pink ladies, the nutso religious group, the ones who hold up signs saying your son died for nothing, yada yada. Maybe THAT is why Bush does not go to funerals. Ya think???

As to stopping the media...what planet to you live on? As if Bush could stop the liberal media from showing anything they want...ala CNN and their terrorist-made sniper video as the terrorists stalked our soldiers. Good grief, new guy!!! The liberal media doesn't give a rat's patootie about who they hurt as they strive to take Bush down....ya think???

And frankly, new guy, do you think the public need to see a flag-draped coffin to know about the death toll in Iraq? I am surprised CNN has not installed a ticker to count them. Get a grip, get a clue, buy a vowel. You and other Bush haters like you just need to admit it. You hate the man, anything connected with the man, to the point that you criticize him for doing a wonderful thing by showing up at Virginia Tech. I think that shows a remarkable lack of human compassion on your part. Yeah...I THINK.
I stand corrected - sheesh! who can you believe anymore
I'm totally confused with everything going on now adays. I don't know truth from smears. You would think if someone is actually putting their name to something they would be telling the truth due to serious outcomes of false accusations.

So how can we tell if something we hear on TV, radio or internet is true or not?

Makes me just not want to vote anymore and turn off the TV and put my head in the sand and ignore all going on. I just don't know what to believe anymore.
Drink another cup full of Kool-aid...sheesh. nm
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Clinton...talk about a rewrite on history...sheesh....
He was a waste of a good president. Ergo, he was an embarrassment, in more ways than one.


Where do you want your break, anyway?
Ever hear of TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT? sheesh you are limited
nm
This is the site you fraudulently tried to pass off as the *truth* about Donahue. Sheesh!










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    Now that makes all kinds of sense. Sheesh. I am sure murders occur...
    where you live too. Are you a murderer? What a goofy post. I just happen to be one of those people who knew of Bill before he came to national fame. And I did not say he murdered anyone. All I said is that there are unexplained deaths. All you have to do is google. People should not post rumor and innuendo if they do not want it turned around and applied to their side.
    MSNBC doesn't encourage these witch hunts at all. Sheesh
    Convention III of the Geneva Convention has to do with treatment of Prisoners of War.

    Identifying who is to be classified as a POW is specifically called out in detail in Art 4 of Convention III.

    The AL Queda and Taliban rogues, and other ''terrorists'' DO NOT fall under the protections of Convention III, commonly referred to as Common Article III.
    We are all God's children. nm
    .
    My children.
    My children are grown now, well into their 40s.   I have four wonderful grandchildren, whom I adore, the oldest just turned 18.  Our nuclear family puts God first and we follow his teachings.  Abortion would never be something any one of us would contemplate for even the slightest bit of time.  My children and grandchildren do not do this out of fear of reaction from the family but out of love for God and his creations.  We consider abortion murder. It isn't something we would ever do.  I know that the left spins this daily as being fear of retribution. It's too bad that they have lost the ability to see that there are those of us who grieve for the loss of human life, no matter what stage it is in when it ends.
    i certainly would. I f you do that to children then you s/m
    should have NO rights at all.
    do you have children?
    christians are not perfect. I don't know of one who claims to be. Yes, things do start at home but that does not mean that adults and children don't make poor choices. I've not heard anyone in the McCain campaign say they are "very religious." Besides, being "religious" doesn't necessarily mean Christian and being a Christian does not mean perfect.

    Also, I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth, far from it actually, but I have worked for what I have. I don't expect someone to provide my health insurance or pay my mortgage. I'm supporting McCain.

    Tell me what do YOU consider a WONDERFUL FAMILY?
    so how do you think that children
    have abortions without the parents ever finding out, if they receive a bill in the mail? It has to be paid for by someone other than the parents, or else they would know about it. perhaps not your particular clinic, but it happens.
    Wow, children, get over it already...
    it's a cartoon, plain and simple. You are the ones making something out of nothing. Find something else to rant and rave over.
    Most had their children taken...
    away from them and were shot when they tried to escape......it was a horrific event without a doubt. Some couldn't bear to watch their children die so the opted to die to. BUT, I refuse to have someone tell me what I can say and what I can't say because it offends them.
    May I ask how many children do you have?..nm
    nm
    Neither can little children, and look how many have
    nm
    I actually have 2 children....
    And I happen to believe that there is alot more to a relationship than sex.
    What about the children
    who have been killed by homosexuals and they get very little press? You feel this way because of your son. As a Christian we are to speak out against this, even if it is our children doing it. My children understood when they were young that this was wrong and it was their choice if they did do it. I would NEVER support that choice. This has nothing to do with my head in the sand. It has to do with reality and doing the right thing. Most people who have family members who commit this sin choose to have their head in the sand and ignore what Christ tells us. I won't be one of them.
    So you are actually saying that children are not autonomous. sm
    That's absurd. And of course, we hear so many cries for Johnson's daughters to join when we were in Vietnam.  Not.  Because Republicans don't do things like that.  Liberals do.  That entire thread is one big joke. 
    They are his children, grown or not. sm
    It is their choice and I don't think they should sign up because of the security reasons, just my opinion. And, yes I think he would talk them out of it.
    Abuse of children and the right
    Hold on just a minute....from your post you are making it sound like conservatives and the right condone molestation of children. If that is what you were implying you are absolutely wrong. Please, please, please do not categorize all Christians and conservatives with the wacko extreme cults that dare do these things to children. I believe a few weeks ago there was a long thread on the C-board about child molestation. Personally, I think anyone who hurts a child should die...period. If it's sexual molestation the very least that should happen to a male offender is castration...I'd prefer the death penalty...

    Again, this implied generalization that all conservatives are racists, homophobes, and child molesters is absolutely wrong.
    actually what you name your children speaks
    What about the lady that named her daughter Emer Gency because that's the sign she saw going into the hospital? Sure this may be folklore but if you are an MT you know like I do people make really poor choices when it comes to naming thier kids and I would never elect one of those braniacs VP!!!
    Duh yourself. Every time I have seen her, her children ...
    are standing behind her. WHen Michelle Obama is at work, she ain't with her children. Duh. You think if Obama is elected she is going to knit sweaters and raise her kids? The White House has a huge staff. I don;t think she will be firing them and cooking for her kids like Palin did in Alaska.

    All that being said, you are being really petty and bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with her ability to be VP, or President should that happen. You are insinuating a woman is not capabale. I believe she is.

    And also...you should be very careful about being so judgmental about teenage pregnancies and family values and responsibility and judgment attached to it...You are alienating, demeaning, and slandering a huge portion of your candidate's base. Do you think they would be happy to hear your assessment of their families having no values or judgment?
    well educating children

    about S-E-X at an appropriate age level IS the right thing to do. Unless your body is d-i-r-t-y.  Unless you have dirty pillows under your blouse.  Da doop.


     


    it's "for the children!"

    Exploitation you can (sadly) believe in.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssC7aSZnAX8


    by helping your children
    actual CHOICE about where your money is going. What about all the people out there who have no back bone and just want something for nothing?
    I believe all children should be covered.

    health care plans.  My husband pays a portion just like everyone else.  We hardly use the health coverage, only for minor sinus infections, and I did have a hysterectomy last year. 


    There are others walking around that have had multiple surgeries including bypass, and they pay the same amount towards the plan. 


    How is that fair?  I feel the contribution should be paid on the usage, per se, and not so much (everyone is equal) because we are not.  I had a friend that had a lap band (fully covered), thyroid surgery, neck surgery, and goes the doctor every other week for something or other.  So, when we worked together, we both paid the same; yet, I did not go to the doctor or have any surgeries. 


    Is that fair?  Why not look at something like that for cost effectiveness?  Would this turn people away from receiving the healthcare they need (not likely)?