There was a truce. Hamas broke it and sent
Posted By: missiles into Israel. What is wrong with you?nm on 2009-01-08
In Reply to: Wanders the desert for 40 years before occupation of the land - I agree
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YOU BROKE THE TRUCE, YOU FRIGGING MORON!
In case you're not aware, you are on the LIBERAL BOARD. How can she blow a truce if she is on the LIBERAL BOARD, not visiting the conservative board, but YOU REFUSE TO LEAVE THE LIBERAL BOARD? YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS BREAKING THE TRUCE, YOU IDIOT.
As far as being respectful, you simply don't know the meaning of the word.
Yes, and Hamas once again broke the peace.
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Truce? Not in my eyes
SM, I have not called a truce with you..just because another liberal has..she/he has every right to but not I..you have repeatedly over a few months attacked me personally and ideologically..you have started off debating and then after a few posts of debate have attacked me..I want nothing to do with you..a truce? For how long a day? and then you will start to attack again? Give me a break..There were many times you posted here and the posts were genuine, I thought, and then before you knew it..you could not stand it..the other poster was getting to you..so you would attack like a mad dog..like a fool and attack personally..I dont trust you..frankly, I dont like you..go back to the conservative board where you can attack liberal ideology and pat each other on the back, cause you cant handle really true debate with ideologies other than your own, your previous posts prove it..The only way you could prove to me you want a ****truce**** is to post a few posts that are not attacking and understanding that ALL AMERICANS HAVE A RIGHT TO DIFFERENCE IN OPINION AND DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES AND NOT ALL BELIEVE IN CONSERVATIVE VIEWS AND YOU STILL RESPECT THEM AS AMERICANS..I dont think you can do it..You dont have it in you..You are obsessed with changing peoples opinions and ideologies and it isnt gonna happen, not through attacks and hateful posts, as you have done..
How long a truce?
Okay, lets see how long your ************ truce********* lasts, LOLOL..Humor me..Lets read your posts under a ********truce******..Wanna bet how long they will last from you one of the Queens of Judgment?? Can I call your arse to task when you step off your ******* truce*******..You bet I will..So, honey, keep posting good posts, debate posts and you will be **in**, jump off that and your arse is fried..
Your post below about the truce says you can't
speak for other conservatives. Yet in your post above you feel you can speak for and control other liberals. You and all the voices in your head could hurt someone someday. Please. Get help before it's too late.
Add 3 more to the nameless troll category. So much for a truce. nm
This is no contest. We called a truce last night.
And I respected that until gt attacked me for no reason. But you are too busy gloating over some silly game you are playing to realize that something was actually accomplished here last night. I don't respect your game. I was pointing out that your silly game actually caused harm. But far be it from a roach to teach you anything. By the way, roaches have been around since the beginning of time, are remarkably resilient and adaptive creatures and have managed to survive despite eons of attempt at extermination. I would hardly call them weak.
Oops. This should be posted under "Thre was a truce."
Sorry.
In case you didn't notice, gt, we called a truce, which you just blew. sm
I have been off this board a long time and was just discussing with another poster here calling a truce and I was VERY respectful in these posts, but, of course, you had to start up again. To the other poster who I made the truce with, can you see now why there can never be a truce here?
I don't believe he broke any laws
You believe that he did. We're at an impasse. I don't hate America I put America first before the rest of the world, but I guess I'm just selfish enough to take care of my home first. I'm a baaaad person I guess.
When the Levees Broke...sm
In anniversary of Hurricane Katrina August 29, 2005 Spike has put together a documentary When the Levees Broke. I saw this this morning and I am sickened with shame on how the feds handled it. Don't get me wrong, I was mad before but now multiply that x 10 and that's where I'm at.
Aside from Barbara Bush's snide remarks, the most taletell sign of incompasionate incompetence was first Blanco inability to negotiate federal assistance when Bush strode into town 5 days later. And last but definitely not least, Bush's unwillingness to act as Commander in Chief and take control of the situation.
Can you believe that even as people were drowning in their attics, Bush and Blanco were having a disagreement over state rights???
:-(
I went to the NPR site, who broke this story...
all they say is some information was added that made it "more favorable." They do not say that any of the information added was untrue, and they do not say any derogatory information was taken off. This blog indicates they know it was a McCain supporter. NPR says no one knows who did it, and because of the way the editing accounts are structured, no one will ever know it. What matters is that none of the information added was incorrect, and nothing was removed, according to NPR, which while they are left leaning, I would trust them more than a blog.
We'll all be broke with no more freedom (nm)
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We are broke now in an economic meltdown and
post-911 mindset. There is only one way out for those who look forward to what lays beyond that quagmire. I'll give you a hint. It does not involve a right turn.
Well, apparently Fox broke the story.
Whether it's a lie or not, who knows? Frankly, I don't care. She lost. Period. It's over.
However, regarding Chris Matthews, and in the spirit of trying to be objective here, I watched his show tonight. He interviewed Governor Pawlenty, asked him a number of rather leading questions to which my understanding of the Governor's answers were rather noncommittal, and at the end, Matthews said, "Well, okay..." you said this, and this and this... (can't remember the exact words), and Pawlenty made a comment about Matthews' poor editing skills if that was what Matthews got from Pawlenty's statements.
I was sitting here, kind of shaking my head and wondering what's happening to Chris Matthews, because his assessment of Pawlenty's words sure didn't match what I heard the Governor say.
I don't believe I've seen Chris this "frazzled" for a long time. Maybe he needs a vacation or something, but I didn't care for what I saw tonight. 
Here's a link describing who broke what.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/05/israelandthepalestinians
You can go broke funding them for all I care..
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It wouldn't surprise me if it broke out....(sm)
into a full fledged civil war. With everything that's going on over there right now, that would be a huge mess. However, this may be the only way for Iranian people to break out of it. I think those who would revolt would definitely get a lot of backing though. I just don't know how much the US could do to back them considering how our resources are so thin right now.
Hillary is broke, had to loan herself 5 million.sm
LOL. Maybe she will use her money and Bill's speaking engagement fees to pay for our new Universal Healthcare Program.
Clinton loaned her campaign $5 million
Senator Hillary Clinton confirmed at a press conference in Virginia this afternoon that she'd loaned her campaign $5 million, and said, "The results last night proved the wisdom of my investment.."
Spokesman Howard Wolfson emailed with the news minutes earlier:
Late last month Senator Clinton loaned her campaign $5 million.The loan illustrates Sen. Clinton’s commitment to this effort and to ensuring that our campaign has the resources it needs to compete and win across this nation. We have had one of our best fundraising efforts ever on the web today and our Super Tuesday victories will only help in bringing more support for her candidacy.
As I reported earlier, she's drawing on a pool of personal wealth estimated to be as much as $41 million, as well as a reported payout to Bill Clinton of $20 million from the Los Angeles billionaire manager Ron Burkle.
Clinton told reporters that her fundraising was healthy, but that "my opponent was able to raise more money, and we intended to be competitive, and we were."
Clinton also emailed supporters today with an ambitious online fundraising goal: to, over the course of three days, "raise $3 million to fund our history-making campaign."
Give peace a chance cuz we are broke now.
McCain graduated 5th from the last in a class of nearly 900 from the Naval Academy. He crashed 4 times before being shot down after being in the air for 20 hours. They accepted him for the family's legacy. He was obviously unqualified to be a Navy pilot.
And Sarah, pretty as she is (the news net works have her picture all over my screen as if she is a super model), would be a nightmare of a VP - and it has nothing to do with her stand on reproductive rights.
Did you watch 60 min?
Or we'd be BROKE buying his carbon credits
while he's rolling in the dough.
Don't think they returned any from Hamas. nm
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And Hamas? Are they innocents? - sm
Heard one of the leaders of Hamas today state that they will never accept a peace agreement with Israel - that the "occupation" must stop. Occupation, occupation! Excuse me but didn't Israel win the war? And why not accept a peace agreement, better than doing what they are doing, what THEY are doing to their own people. How about all the buses, restaurants, etc. in Israel that have been blown up with innocent people and children in them? It is time for everyone perpetuating this hatred to give it up and try peace for a change. Hamas is a hate-filled bunch of terrorists and radicals.
Maybe your beloved Hamas SHOULD put God in it.
Then they might stand a chance.
As it is, they're on the way to defeat. (And good riddance to 'em.)
Quick! Someone call the pound. AG's pit bull broke loose from
Yeah, Hamas has already endorsed him...
and he had to give their money back.
How many Hamas do you supposed they killed
when they bombed the women's dormitory at the University? Explain to me what threat the five Ba'lousheh sisters, ages 17, 14, 8, 4 and 2 and residents of Jabalya refugee camp, posed to Israel? All five were buried today. It is not enough for Israel cripple and starve the refugees with its ongoing strangling blockade of food, supplies and medicine and turn Gaza and he West Bank into one huge armed prison camp. These blood thirsty barbarians will not rest until they have satisfied their appetites with their latest fix of Arab slaughter. After all, it's already been 2 long years since Lebanon....way too long for the more ravenous among them to endure.
Hamas was democratically elected by
the Palestinian National Authority and has won many local elections in Gaza, Qalqila and Nablus. The hold 72 of the 136 seats in the Palestinian Parliament, having unseated the former Fatah ruling party. Apparently, the Palestinian people do not agree with O.
He will have quite a dilemma on his hands reconciling this rhetoric with what democracy looks like in the Middle East, so let the games begin.
Hamas live in Gaza.
That makes them civilians, too, the same way our elected officials are also citizens and live in their respective states. If living in their own houses in their own neighborhoods is "hiding," then that statement is accurate.
HAMAS is a terrorist group
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Yeah, and Hamas weapons also
they can sneak in through their tunnels from Iran, and I think we know the technololgy from Iran is a little more sophisticated than you are admitting. Not to mention the fact that they are embedding themselves into the civilian population in Gaza thereby holding them as hostages and using them for the rest of the world to say the very things you are saying. It sounds to me like you are so disgusted with the US, you may consider leaving and joining the Hamas yourself since they are so great in your eyes.
Those "schools" are also where Hamas hides and
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Yeah, right. Hamas squelches any opposition, so you can't
really call their elections democracy in action.
Yeah, right. Hamas squelches any opposition, so you can't
really call their elections democracy in action.
Baloney. Israel is targeting Hamas, who are
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How many Hamas in UNRWA, media buildings?
Israel's national security is threatened by "symbols of power," ie reporters and aid workers? Just one more US-backed pack of war crimes based on lies.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/articles/2009/01/03/hammond_top-5-lies-about-israels-assault-on-gaza.html
Refer to article for details.
Lie #1) Israel is only targeting legitimate military sites and is seeking to protect innocent lives. Israel never targets civilians.
Lie #2) Hamas violated the cease-fire. The Israeli bombardment is a response to Palestinian rocket fire and is designed to end such rocket attacks.
Lie #3) Hamas is using human shields, a war crime.
Lie #4) Arab nations have not condemned Israel’s actions because they understand Israel’s justification for its assault.
Lie #5) Israel is not responsible for civilian deaths because it warned the Palestinians of Gaza to flee areas that might be targeted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932009_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_conflict
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/civilian-casualties-human-rights-groups-accuse-israelis-of-war-crimes-1366727.html
Palestinian fatalities: 1055, 670 of which are civilians, more than 300 children.
Israel fatalities: 13, 3 civilians, 10 soldiers, 4 BY FRIENDLY FIRE.
Palestinian injuries: 4560, over 1500 children.
Israel wounded: 178, 120 soldiers and 58 civilians.
IDF forces: 176,500 who accumulated 2360 air strikes BEFORE the ground assault.
Hamas militia: 20,000 total
How many Hamas in UNRWA, media buildings?
Israel's national security is threatened by "symbols of power," ie reporters and aid workers? Just one more US-backed pack of war crimes based on lies.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/articles/2009/01/03/hammond_top-5-lies-about-israels-assault-on-gaza.html
Refer to article for details.
Lie #1) Israel is only targeting legitimate military sites and is seeking to protect innocent lives. Israel never targets civilians.
Lie #2) Hamas violated the cease-fire. The Israeli bombardment is a response to Palestinian rocket fire and is designed to end such rocket attacks.
Lie #3) Hamas is using human shields, a war crime.
Lie #4) Arab nations have not condemned Israel’s actions because they understand Israel’s justification for its assault.
Lie #5) Israel is not responsible for civilian deaths because it warned the Palestinians of Gaza to flee areas that might be targeted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%932009_Israel%E2%80%93Gaza_conflict
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/civilian-casualties-human-rights-groups-accuse-israelis-of-war-crimes-1366727.html
Palestinian fatalities: 1055, 670 of which are civilians, more than 300 children.
Israel fatalities: 13, 3 civilians, 10 soldiers, 4 BY FRIENDLY FIRE.
Palestinian injuries: 4560, over 1500 children.
Israel wounded: 178, 120 soldiers and 58 civilians.
IDF forces: 176,500 who accumulated 2360 air strikes BEFORE the ground assault.
Hamas militia: 20,000 total
Well, they already made him give back Hamas' money.
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Good. Hope Israel can destroy HAMAS.
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So.....3000-4000 rockets lobbed by Hamas into Israel...sm
in the last year, what about that? Does that bother you in the slightest?
Or in your twisted view of the world, please explain why that is A-0kay in your book.
Are you suggesting Hamas has 1017-mile-long tunnels?
Do you hear yourself? You are regurgitating more propaganda from US media sources, which act as mouthpieces of the US, AIPAC, and Israel policies. Do you understand how one-sided US news coverage really is? The only smuggling of any significance going on is between Gaza and Egypt and, for the most part, the contraband is food, clothing, medicine, fuel and cash, which they have been cut off from for the past 18 months due to Israel's blockade. If there is weapon smuggling, the majority of it would be coming from the Muslim Brotherhood who is not exactly able to engage in such activities openly since they are repressed by the Egyptian government and are not even allowed to run for office as a legitimate political party, are subjected to mass arrests, etc.
The Brotherhood is a Sunni organization and does not even operate in Iran, whose relations with Egypt are pretty icy, to say the least. These factors make high-level, successful arms smuggling connected to Iran difficult at best and fairly unlikely. It should come as no surprise that Iran is entirely supportive of Palestine, but the way US depicts the relationship between Iran and other Islamic political parties is highly exaggerated and often inaccurate.
In any case, the weapons that have been able to be smuggled in quite OBVIOUSLY do not measure up to the caliber of weapons Israel has been able to amass with US financial backing and direct arms provisions. Take a long look at the list I put in the other post. Israel is able to conduct its wars FROM OUTER SPACE.
If Hamas had such weaponry, we would not have a 125:1 fatality ratio between the two sides, would we now? I hate to break this to you, but Iranians DO NOT imbed themselves in Gaza. You really need to educate yourself on the difference between an Arab and a Persian, when and how they support each other and where they draw their lines.
BTW, no place in any of my posts have you seen me say I think Hamas is "so great." In fact, I support secular social democratic parties in the Middle East, including Iran. I simply view the area's politics from a different standpoint than most Americans because I have had occasion to live there, to work with refugees, to marry into a Moslem family and to befriend man Iranians, Iraqis Jordanians, Syrians, Turks, Lebanese, Palestinians and even a couple of liberal Israelis over the last 40 years.
No. "Evil" is Saddam. "Evil" is Hamas.
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