The sister born 9 years later in Jakarta Indonesia?
Posted By: Why would anyone expect her to know....sm on 2008-11-02
In Reply to: Just wish O would cough up BC and this would resolve EVERYTHING - middle class
the answer to that question? How many out there sit around discussing the hospital where there were born with their half-siblings? When did they ask her that question...before or after the legal challenges? Perhaps she made an educated guess based on Hawaiian geography and process of elimination. Would be interested in the context of that conversation. Got any links to that information?
He has provided his birth certificate. People can choose to either believe it or not, even though the courts, DNC, secy of the state of Illinois and the US secy of state seem to uphold its legitimacy). I think these other questions regarding 1996, 1998, 2002 and 2004 (the other years he was found to be eligible to run for office) when he was certified by the Illinois Secretary of State 3 times, the US Secretary of State in 2004 and the DNC and US Secretary of State in 2008 would be interesting to explore, in the interest of uncovering the ENTIRE story, especially since the constitution was not brought into the diaglog until Hillary lost the primaries, was not selected as VP and the reality of Obama's candidacy started to sink in with the republican base.
Furthermore, where the pubs think they are going to end up with this is almost too mind-boggling for even the most imaginative among us to conceive, so I really do wish they would enlighten us on that one.
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in Jakarta, Indonesia.....nm
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He attended only 4 years in this Catholic School in Jakarta,
1st to 5th grade, age 7-11 years, from 1968 till 1972.
Can you beat my research?
Did you forget about the years he spent in Indonesia?
Where he studied the Muslin faith and prayed every day? Or did you conveniently forget that?
Sorry, I'm just getting sick of all this one-sided stuff and it's not just aimed at you.
Obama attended only 4 years a school in Jakarata, Indonesia,
from the 1st to the 4th grade. And this was a Catholic school.
At age 11 his mother brought him back to Honolulu, Hawai, where he attended the most prestigious school.
His biological father and stepfather were Muslims, his mother was Catholic.
Obama was never a practicing Muslim. Among his friends were also Muslim friend.
When he marreid Michelle in 1992, he converted to Christianity.
I think our President is a Christian.
It doesn't matter WHERE he was born. He was born to an American citizen so he is sm
a native American.
Obama was born in US, his FATHER was born in Kenya, check it out and sm
Do you really think the campaign would have gotten this far if he was born in Kenya? Did Hannity tell you that? LOL!!!!
natural born does not mean you have to be born physically in the US -
My daughter was born in Germany, but because I am an American she is an American. She has no problems and is considered natural born - that just means you did not have to go through the hoops to become an American citizen.
Just who gave Indonesia the right
to denounce a U.S. citizen's AMERICAN citizenship. Who cares what Indonesia did. At the time Obama was a kid for crying out loud and the school or government could put whatever they wanted on whatever they wanted. This citizenship non-issue gets more absurd with every post about it.
Wrong! Indonesia as a child not Pakistan. nm
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Are your geographically challenged. Indonesia is in Asia and...sm
Kenya is in Africa. His father was Kenyan and his stepfather Indonesian, neither of which makes his US citizenship null and void. The ignorance of actual facts is amazing.
For this you have to wait at least 3 years and 8 months , maybe 7 years and 8 mohths...nm
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I'm with you, sister! nm
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Sister, Sister.
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my sister was here
and she said she has big plans if Obama gets in... She and her husband are going to quit their jobs... she is going to have another baby... they are going to live on government assistance.... LOL..... you know, I seriously think there are people with that mindset. WOOHOO... I WON'T HAVE TO WORK AND LIVE IS GOING TO BE GRAND.... whatever.
My sister and the BIL
decided to move into the parents' place after the parents passed on. There was some (a lot of) rehab work to be done.
So she and I were patching and painting in the living room. BIL was working on cabinets in the kitchen. Sis and I were having a good time and laughing in there. Playing music, dancing and carrying on, but actually accomplishing what we needed to do. BIL actually came in and YELLED at us for having 'too much fun.' I believe he must have thought we were laughing at him. (Which actually we had not been, until he came in and made an absolute doofus of himself. After which we could hardly keep a straight face.)
Nope, he really never did not fit in. Fortunately, the humor gene was passed on to their daughter; must have been X chromosome linked.
Amen my sister...NM
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Amen to that sister!!!!
Amen to that sister
I have a gay son who is a wonderful example of a human being and one of my favorite people in the world. I would hope that one day he could find a life partner to have a happy, loving life with and have the same rights as everyone else. I am sick to death of these closed-minded, ignorant, "all in the name of religion" fanatics who believe that this kind of love is a sin. HOW CAN AN EXPRESSION OF LOVE BETWEEN TWO CONSENTING ADULTS BE A SIN?!!! My God does not judge and condemn people that way.
AMEN SISTER!!!
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Can I again an AMEN sister . . .
These haters seem to forget where their ancestors came from and why they came in the first place!! Duh, is it because they wanted the opportunity to better their lives, or practice their religion freely? I wonder if when our forefathers wrote the Constitution they intended there to be an expiration date? And those same ancestors are the ones that came over here, killed all the Native Americans they could, and the ones they didn't forced them into their religion and then put them on reservations. Kind of sound like history repeating itself.
Amen, sister!
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you have never been to my sister's church
and she is not going to look for a different one either. You don't speak for God and neither do they.
These churches have their own agendas. Anybody can be brainwashed if they do not question authority.
Amen, sister!............nm
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Good for you - you tell them sister
I'm sorry for what you went through but sounds like you made the best of your situation and made the decisions necessary to survive.
Everyone should keep their nose out of every else's business. Nobody knows what other people are going through, hence they should mind their own business.
Yeah! Here you go, sister!...nm
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Amen, sister!
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My baby sister (in her 50s) says
Obama speaks 'real elegant' and also told me prior to the election that he does not use notes because he has a 'photogenic memory.' This is the sister who dropped out of high school and stays tuned to the MSM 24/7. Love her, but sometimes I need subtitles when we speak. Sort of like listening to comedian Norm Crosby (if anyone else is old enough to remember him.)
Amen, sister!
Reagan is often accused of cutting taxes for the rich. Who do they think PAYS the taxes? Also, after the first round of tax cuts, my federal income tax went down by about $100, and I was making, good grief, about 15k a year at that time? Guess I was one of the lucky rich who got a tax cut. Uh huh.
And when was the last time you went to a POOR guy looking for a job??
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This is what my sister told me
We grew up Methodist (12 years of church/sunday school in a Methodist parish). A few years back she became mormon and she was into baptizing every single person in our family (and her friends) who had died. This is what she told me. - By baptizing them they now can enter into ? (wherever the mormons go) because they weren't aware of the religion when they were alive, and now they are safe. We argued and argued about it. She even had the nerve to tell me after my mom died that my mom had expressed wishes to become involved in the mormon religion, but didn't get to before she died. So now she is okay now that she has been baptized. I told her that's funny because I was just visiting mom (who lives on the other side of the states) the week before she died and I had rosary beads that were blessed by a priest (although I'm not catholic - got them from a priest on the plane), and my mom was holding them and wanted to say that prayer of Mary - forge the name - Hail Mary full of grace, etc, etc., and she also asked for a Priest to say the last rites prayer when she was in the hospital. Sis was not real happy that I called for a Priest for my mom.
Anyway...I don't want to make this a religious discussion cos that's for a different board, but just telling you how my sister explained it.
I too still don't get it. I think it's more of a "feel good" thing for them. The person is long since gone and gone on to whatever realm they go to after they leave and I don't think there are different religions where they go - which btw she has already told me once I pass that because I'm not a mormon I will be on the same level with Charles Manson, Jefrey Dahmer, etc. But if I become mormon I will be elevated up to the next level. No offense to anyone on this board (I actually attended mormon services for a year when I was in the service), but it's just too "out there" for me and goes against everything I believe in, but so do all of the religions.
Amen, sister!
He is doing an outstanding job because he is intelligent. Nobody can refute that, though they try by painting untruths as if they are credible facts.
He is extremely popular with all free-thinking, intelligent people.
Amen sister. nm
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Amen to that, sister!
cnn - palin's father and sister
to speak about her. Why won't she be interviewed? What are the repubs hiding by keeping her in a cocoon?
My sister believes this stuff
My sister's church tells her this stuff to scare her and get her tithe. Let me tell you in the 80s she was no saint. It makes me feel bad for her that her church makes her so afraid and discourages her from thinking for herself.
Okay, then should they VOTE? My half-sister in
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My sister lost her job several months ago
and she cannot find anyone hiring in her area or anywhere near her area. She is a registered nurse and is in the process of a divorce and is trying to raise 2 little girls.
Remember when RNs were needed everywhere? Now they can't even find jobs.
ROFL. Paddle on, sister.....
down the river of denial. Obama is fast on the way to raising the debt to twice what it was after 8 years of Bush and a WAR. Oh, while we are on the subject of war....backed off on that hasn't he? Oh yeah, pulling some combat troops out in 16 months but leaving a "presence" indefinitely. Oops...one campaign promise shot to heck. And escalating the Afghan war and every one he pulls out of Iraq will end up in Afghanistan. More palatable to have Americans die there I suppose? Because the great and powerful O says so? Signed a bill with 900+ earmarks in it, after swearing he would do a line-by-line and cut earmarks? Boom! Down goes another campaign promise. I especially liked the earmark for how many million to study how to keep pig poop from stinking up Iowa. Yeah, that's something we need to do right now. Change? ROFL. More of the same, only worse....spend, Dems, spend. Go ahead.
And for the record...a poll back when Bush was elected said over 50% of Democrats wanted him to fail, and you are having apoplexy because Rush Limbaugh said he hoped Obama's policies failed? Okay when Dems do it, not okay when a Republican does it.
And for the record, not a registered Republican OR Democrat. Independent conservative that agrees with the kid...based on principles, not politics and power: respect the Constitution, respect life, less government, personal responsibility. Directly opposite the "ruling" party and Prez. The things that made this country great, and he appears he$$ bent on destroying in the first 6 months. And you guys cheering him on. LOL. Reminds me of Caesar fiddling while Rome burned.
Not quite- 2 years Catholic, 2 years Muslim. NM
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A letter to Newt Gingrich from his sister
Dear Newt,
I recently had the displeasure of watching you bash the protestors of the Prop 8 marriage ban to Bill O'Reilly on FOX News. I must say, after years of watching you build your career by stirring up the fears and prejudices of the far right, I feel compelled to use the words of your idol, Ronald Reagan, "There you go, again."
However, I realize that you may have been a little preoccupied lately with planning your resurrection as the savior of your party, so I thought I would fill you in on a few important developments you might have overlooked.
The truth is that you're living in a world that no longer exists. I, along with millions of Americans, clearly see the world the way it as -- and we embrace what it can be. You, on the other hand, seem incapable of looking for new ideas or moving beyond what worked in the past.
Welcome to the 21st century, big bro. I can understand why you're so afraid of the energy that has been unleashed after gay and lesbian couples had their rights stripped away from them by a hateful campaign. I can see why you're sounding the alarm against the activists who use all the latest tech tools to build these rallies from the ground up in cities across the country.
This unstoppable progress has at its core a group we at HRC call Generation Equality. They are the most supportive of full LGBT equality than any American generation ever -- and when it comes to the politics of division, well, they don't roll that way. 18-24 year olds voted overwhelmingly against Prop 8 and overwhelmingly for Barack Obama. And the numbers of young progressive voters will only continue to grow. According to the Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning, about 23 million 18-29 year olds voted on Nov. 4, 2008 -- the most young voters ever to cast a ballot in a presidential election. That's an increase of 3 million more voters compared to 2004.
These are the same people who helped elect Barack Obama and sent a decisive message to your party. These young people are the future and their energy will continue to drive our country forward. Even older Americans are turning their backs on the politics of fear and demagoguery that you and your cronies have perfected over the years.
This is a movement of the people that you most fear. It's a movement of progress -- and your words on FOX News only show how truly desperate you are to maintain control of a world that is changing before your very eyes.
Then again, we've seen these tactics before. We know how much the right likes to play political and cultural hardball, and then turn around and accuse us of lashing out first. You give a pass to a religious group -- one that looks down upon minorities and women -- when they use their money and membership roles to roll back the rights of others, and then you label us "fascists" when we fight back. You belittle the relationships of gay and lesbian couples, and yet somehow neglect to explain who anointed you the protector of "traditional" marriage. And, of course, you've also mastered taking the foolish actions of a few people and then indicting an entire population based on those mistakes. I fail to see how any of these patterns coincide with the values of "historic Christianity" you claim to champion.
Again, nothing new here. This is just more of the blatant hypocrisy we're used to hearing.
What really worries me is that you are always willing to use LGBT Americans as political weapons to further your ambitions. That's really so ྖs, Newt. In this day and age, it's embarrassing to watch you talk like that. You should be more afraid of the new political climate in America, because, there is no place for you in it.
In other words, stop being a hater, big bro.
Amen, sister. Take another swig of the cough syrup...
and keep it coming. :-)
Seriously....hope you feel better soon.
Half sister ---college student --- left that
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Sing it sister!! Earned income tax credit most defintely is welfare.
But I bet very few people who receive it think of it that way. They just happily cash that refund check.
There's one born every minute.
You seem to have bought the Dem's propaganda hook, line and sinker. What a sucker.
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
You know, not everyone was born in Boston...
and not everyone expresses himself/herself in the way you wish they would. That does NOT diminish their abilities. You still come off as sounding very condescending. I don't live in Boston and I don't have a master's degree, and I know a lot of "Joe six-packs." Who, incidentally, are very fine and not uneducated people. She does have a degree in journalism. She is not uneducated. Obama does not have a depth and breadth of experience, no more than she does. She has executive experience, he doesn't. He doesn't have foreign policy experience; that is why he has Joe Biden and 300 foreign policy advisors. She has balanced the state budget and has had surpluses which she returned to her constituents. She is very honest and open...much more so than Obama OR Biden.
Funny you should mention God...have you looked into black liberation theology?
Born-again believers
can't vote for Obama but they can vote for McCain, an admitted adulterer, proven liar, a man of proven poor judgment (Keeting-5 not to mention Gov Airhead)? They'll vote for McCain because he "says" he is against abortion? We know this how? I for one do not believe in abortion...for myself. I further believe that is an issue not for the government but between a woman, her doctor and her God. If she has no God, of course, she is not bound by His laws.
Yes, he war born in Hawaii which in in the US. nm
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He was born too early ...
If you read through the articles, you'll see that he was actually born before the law went into effect stating that people born in the Panama Canal zone were natural born citizens. Thus, he is not.
I'm sure the RNC felt that it was just a technicality that would never be called out.
I fear if this Obama stuff continues, it will be. And we'll be left with no candidates to vote for.
FYI, even though born in Iran, she is....sm
a natural-born American citizen.
As a born and bred
Chicago baby, I can say you are 100% right!
I was BORN in Europe, So what? What does this have to do
with anything and it is none of your business.
I assume that you are jealous that I am European born, therefore you are literally 'following' me around the forum with your pathetic comments.
Nothing better to do?
Look for another past-time.
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