The silence is deafening! For shame Sam nm
Posted By: geek on 2008-10-06
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Silence is deafening
on the conservatives board. Where else is a political junkie to go around here?
I'm sure the silence will be deafening.
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The silence from Sam is deafening!
This is an easy question, Sam. You should know the answer off the top of your head without having to do a Google search.
The Silence is Deafening
*crickets*
The silence is deafening........
There's that deafening silence from the other side of the aisle.
But not for long. That greed gang is going down...double-digits, T-minus 14 and counting.
Shame on those who perpetrated this crime and shame on you....am
....for posting a link. I for one, will not be going to "gawk" at the governor's personal life that has been hijacked by extremists.
Heartless people, that's what YOU are! Shame, shame ! nm
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silence? No way!
I hear no silence, however, what I do hear is people coming together to end this war and throw this bum out of office..YEEHHAAWW!!!!
No prob, gt; the silence
What you do DOES silence the rest of us.
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If this is all it takes to silence you....
your "issues" must not be worth caring about enough to post. How is it okay to silence me...that's fine. But then you complain that I am silencing YOU. Is this glaring double standard somehow escaping you? Are you so unconvinced in your "issues?"
Silence of the Pubs
The reason for the original post was to show that the Republicans and so called "independents" are quick to blame President Obama when the market is down, yet the cat has their tongues when the market goes up. Apparently, their motto is "If you don't have anything bad to say, don't say anything."
No one is foolish enough to believe that a one-day gain in the stock market means the end of the economic crisis.
Strange silence now broken.
First reaction is if these issues, which have been posted on O's website ever since he launched his campaign, are of such sudden concern to the cons and femocons, why did they not get addressed during the RNC? Do you not see the high-jack strategy as the cons try to talk out of both sides of their mouths and reinvent themselves as the new age liberals? How is this different than the now exposed folly of the compassionate conservative Bush/Cheney ploy?
Small business. Either you can't read, you think that we can't or your spin cycle is stuck in high gear. Go here: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#small-business. Plans to give tax relief for small businesses and startups, eliminate capital gains taxes on them and provide a $500 new making work pay tax credit (one of many) for workers. For all those IC MTs out there, this is aimed at reducing the burden of double taxation in the current structure where small businesses pay both employer AND employee side of payroll tax. Obama will INVEST $250 million per year in support of entrepreneurship, by creating national network of public-private business incubators to facilitate start-up creation. Your $250,000/yr figure applied to tax cuts on INDIVIDUALS who earn in excess of that amount. Therefore, your offshore, job loss, and massive flight to lower income argument does not hold water on this point. Please cite the right-wing rag you have taken this $6 billion dollar additional tax on small business claim. I'm not finding that in O's plan. The tax breaks to the "lower brackets" (losing their homes, can't decide whether to get medicine or food this month, and if they are lucky, can gas their tank once a month) is addressed below.
On the plight of the struggling rich. Define rich, please. From the bottom, INDIVIDUAL incomes in excess of $250,000/yr might look about right. From the top, $5 million a year maybe (one of McC's not-so-funny jokes, some would wonder). The 90% of the federal tax bill claim must be a typo. Go here for 2008 info: http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2008/04/the_rich_and_their_taxes.html. Our top 1% of filers pay 40% or tax burden. An accurate argument would include these facts as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth. In the United States at the end of 2001, 10% of the population owned 71% of the wealth, and the top 1% controlled 38%. On the other hand, the bottom 40% owned less than 1% of the nation's wealth. Let's say that one more time. Top 1% gets 38%, bottom 40% get less than 1%. Since they are not earning a living wage, probably that is why they cannot afford to pay tax. Got the picture?
There is only one reason our long suffering corporations are taking their business overseas. Greed. They do not want to pay their share and they get tax incentives currently for outsourcing. Do not take us down the path of needing to address sweat shop working conditions, 7-day work weeks, $2/day wages in developing countries where US labor laws do not apply. Greed is not a universal American value.
There you go again. Please try to keep this discussion in the context of McCain plans and how they are different than Bush plans. You are spinning way out in right field without a paddle on that ridiculous statement about keeping people in lower brackets. What in the world make you think this kind of ignorance is going to help JM/SP win the election.
Preying on discontent, fear and division was a blatent and nauseating subtext for the RNC this entire week. I do agree with inspecting history, and the history that is under the microscope now is Bush/Cheney and JM voting history. Do you really want to bring up govt "borrowing." Again, Bush is the record setter in this regard and while we are talkin' W, don't forget the Bush slash and burn policies toward our seniors. Here's a link for you to a rather exhaustive analysis on 12 reason privatizing social security is a bad idea. http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp?pubid=503. You can get back to me on that one with your rebuttal. My question would be putting WHICH people before WHICH party?
Survey Americans on which party they associate election fraud with in the past, say, 30 years or so and tell me what you come up with. So you forgot to mention what JM's plan is on this one. Again, just saying no to personal attacks and steering you back on course. JM's plan for lobbying and earmarks is what exactly. I see O has one.
JM hate war? LMAO. So what was all that military service orgie this week all about? The entire McCain family for generations have shown to us just how much they hate war. Where is his war prevention strategy? Did I miss the part where he sang Give Peace a Chance? Sam, really, do you care nothing about your own credibility or that of your candidates? Am laughing too hard to comment further on this.
Here's a link for you to serve as a primer on the Patriot Act controversy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act#Controversy. Will not address the attempts you are making to minimize the unconstitutional aspect of this legislation. I would like an explanation as to how RNC protestors engaging in destruction of private property, vandalism, resisting arrest, disturbing the peace and such have suddenly been charged with terrorism? The we have not been attacked yet defense does not make me feel warm and fuzzy about standing legislation that violates the constitution 9 ways to Sunday. Far mongering does not a justification make. O's plan demonstrates ways to tackle terrorism that do not involve trashing the constitution.
There are many issues swirling around the separation of church and state. Christian theocracy will be kept in the marginal fringes where they belong. Religious principles will not be incorporated into laws that seek to remove a woman's right to control her own body. Freedom from religion is also at stake here as are hate crime definitions that provide protection for Moslems in the US. That is the freedom the cons overlook every time.
You may not direct me anywhere in history on this subject that would attempt to blur the division between military and diplomatic initiatives. Hello. These are mutually exclusive concepts and one is designed to prevent the other. Got it? Where is JMs diplomacy? In the past 16 years, which party has demonstrated the ability to balance the budget and create surplus. Hey sambo, who turned a $559 billion surplus into a $400 billion deficit in just 8 years? Looks like there already has been a trillion-dollar screw-up that the next administration will be having to clean up. Wonder which party has the most credibility on this one?
Your prescription for poverty sounds like it was lifted straight out of O's plan. Read it before you try to claim it for the party who would ridicule it. My post ends here because the remainder of yours is recycled communist/socialist innuendo that has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. And the top of the evening to you too, dear.
The silence is pretty amazing.
Where are the pubs defending Bush's plan (and McCain's) to privatize Social Security?
Silence. Did everyone go to the religious board?nm
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Don't ya just love the silence of the Bushwhackers.......
Must have guzzled too much BJ...........
Silence of the Lambs aka Pubs
Why are the Pubs and so-called "independents" who love to hate President Obama so quiet lately? Could it be the fact that...
U.S. stocks surged around 7 percent on Monday after the Obama administration detailed a plan to purge toxic assets from bank balance sheets, fueling optimism about a revival in bank lending and driving double-digit gains in financial shares.
The S&P 500 and the Dow industrials posted their biggest one-day percentage gains since late October after Wall Street finally got what it was asking for: relief for the battered banking sector and more data suggesting the housing market could be on the mend.
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN2329947120090323
More Silence of the Lambs aka Pubs
Their only joy in life comes from whining and complaining, so don't expect to hear from them when something good happens.
Yep, that's how dictators silence the masses...
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Don't ya love the silence of the Obama lovers?
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It is a d*** shame.
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Shame on you
Shame on you Army Mom for wanting your child to be in harms way over an unnecessary criminal war..Shame on YOU
Shame on you
Do you know *any* of the 9/11 widows? What would *you* be doing if your loved one had been murdered as theirs were in this manner? Take the goverment payoff to sit down and shut up? Or would you stand up to the collosal cover-up of the events of that infamous day and demand answers?
There is only *one* person looking to clean up here - and that would be the shrew bitch who makes a living mining the apparently endless wells of hate of her followers.
She deserves not to be mentioned and certainly never to be given free air time.
The widows, at the very least, deserve the benefit of the freaking doubt!
The shame should go to
you people on both sides who can't even see how ignorant you sound. On the one hand you call Obama a terrorist because McCain's campaign has accused him of such. On the other hand you absolve Palin of any wrong doing. I don't KNOW if Obama associates with terrorists. I expect he does associate with shady characters of some kind. I expect Palin is guilty as charged but I don't know this. Unless you live in Alaska and followed this story BEFORE she became the VP nominee, you don't KNOW either.
The shame goes to you people who can only see 2 colors....blue and red!!!! Never mind what is behind door #1 or door #2. It is you people who have elected the dirtbags that are running this country and you're fixin' to do it again. YOU have helped to bring this great country to it's knees and it isn't even on its' knees yet!!!!
I support LOU DOBBS FOR PRESIDENT.
Yes he did and more shame upon him! n/m
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well then shame on us
for being that way. Too bad they couldn't fix it to where you couldn't physically see the candidates but could just hear them speak. If we were blind to their appearance and color, maybe we could make a better judgment call.
It is a shame that all you have to do is
ignored so you can make more hateful jabs. As far as being here in the real world, honey, you don't even have a clue! It is so comical listening to you make a fool of yourself here trying to show us how intelligent and intellectuant you are and what small little peons we are because we do not accept your opinions. Why would someone of your caliber even need the MT world? Can't even be just for the pleasure any more, there is none there now, just work for a living. This poster's opinions are just as valuable as yours. Anyway, you're funny, but you're no more intelligent than anyone else here.
They have no shame
I already know the O worshipper and lovers are going to cut down the article, so I really don't care what they think. But for those interested who have an open mind and willing to read and listen to everything here is a good article. All the rest say what you want, I don't care.
I was also just going to cut and past the article here because of course the O worshippers will come back with a lame excuse about who wrote the article, but I'm at a point now that I don't care either. It's an important article for all those who want to know the truth.
http://www.rense.com/general84/has.htm
Shame
It's you who has no shame.
Gimme A Break.
No, shame on you
For loving him with your eyes closed.
What a shame for someone's whole
wasted due to being consumed with such bitterness and hatred. And to try and blame the entire world's conditions on 2 people. What patriotism!
Shame On You!!!!!!!
You are the perfect example of the "ugly" "slime" you're wailing against.
Posting something like, "I just fear that someone who believes just like the anti-Americans on this board will actually penetrate one of those lines and kill him, for the good of the country. Maybe Bush is counting (planning?) for that to happen."
Get a life and stop fantasizing about secret plots to overthrow your beloved one. Posting that same, tired, worn-out line of BS is hate-mongering, plain and simple.
You say you're leaving for a month? I doubt it. But good riddance if you do. You surely will NOT be missed.
It's a shame....
you can't post a coherent message without attacking someone. Where did all that money go under Ws watch? Am I calling you a c*ks*kng conservative? A bible banging religious whackjob who's venom and hate has consumed their brain cells? Maybe if you grew up and could tie your own shoes, you wouldn't have to resort to schoolyard bullying.
Shame, shame, shame.
On every member of Congress that allowed this porkulus package to go through. Even Joe Biden said there's a 30% chance things could go wrong and that's if they do everything right, which there's very little about this package that's right. Sorry, but in a year's time when none of this works and unemployment is still climbing, how much better off will we be?
No shame on YOU!!!!
How soon you forget about the Word Trade Center getting hit when Clinton was in...USS Cole, the war in Kosovo, Somali, Waco, Oklahoma, etc.
Shame on you for blaming Bush for stuff and not looking back at the atrosities (sp?) Clinton did under his watch.
You know what is a shame?
That all the serial killers moms didn't have an abortion.
I think that it is a shame that
Christian schools should cover up any religious symbols for any speaker. If that speaker doesn't want the symbols there, they shouldn't speak at a Christian school. Simple as that.
For Obama to be a "Christian" and do nothing but appeal solely to the far-left by his views on abortion and now the covering of religious symbols......it just really sad the way our country is heading. You can't even talk about your religious beliefs anymore without being ridiculed and basically told to shut up.
SHAME . . . n/m
BIBLE
Bible
I think it is a shame that
the news media isn't covering some of this stuff. It seems like the media is spoon feeding us without reporting on some very important issues. It is like they want us distracted so we don't see what is really going on.
Just like ACORN....I've been watching when I can and it does amaze me that so much money goes to them and we have no idea where that money goes or about the guy who embezzled 1 million dollars from ACORN and was never prosecuted. I wasn't surprised that they denied O'Reilly the right to look at their books. If they had nothing to hide, they wouldn't have a problem with it. ACORN is fishy. They have bullied people and, like you said, are being investigated by many states now. This is my problem with ACORN....what right does the government have to take MY money and give to an organization like ACORN to pass out to democratic candidates for their campaigns. That is what burns my butt.
We did talk a bit about Sotamayor below. I really don't like the idea that she threw out those tests taken by those firefighters. I just do not see how that test was unfair to minorities since they were all given the same study material and the same amount of time to study. To me....that is racism. She may be able to bring some good things to her position being a latina woman but for her to say that she will make BETTER decisions than a white man because she is a latina woman.....to me that is racist and I do not like it. If a white man had said anything similar, they would have been asked to step down and their career would have been over.
As for N. Korea....I am terrified.....I gotta be honest here. I had a friend of mine in high school who was a foreign exchange student from S. Korea and I often worry about her and wonder how she is especially now with what is going on. I really don't have the answer for this either. We already are spread thin with being in Iraq and Afghan. I'm also sick and tired of the US standing up and being the "bad guys." Why can't the UN do something for once? Why can't other countries stand up and say.....N. Korea...enough is enough. This is one reason why I feel Obama was a bad pick for our country. He has done nothing but apologize and try to appease other countries and personally I feel that it makes him look weak and it has made us look weak.
As for talking about freedom.....I think that is a big issue because so many feel that we are losing our freedom. The government is taking over everything it seems. First the banks and now the auto industry. Government keeps spending and spending. I just can't help but think that our freedoms will be taken away more and more over a period of time.
As for CA....the voters voted and I think it is a shame that this should be taken to the supreme court. This was voted on....gay people lost....get over it. Obviously the majority has a problem with gay marriage or gay marriage would be okay in CA. We haven't heard the end of this. The gay community won't stop until they get what they want. I've come to the conclusion that I feel that all "marriage" should be considered a civil union and marriages should be between believers and their churches. This way the sacred meaning of marriage can be kept for us believers while all non-believers and gay people can have civil unions. To me this will be the only way to make the majority of people happy.
I hope I didn't miss anything. I'm trying to remember everything you brought up.
It's a shame you feel that way.
I don't think it does you or the rest of world any good.
Just my opinion. I will not be debating with you or posting to you again.
Shame on you for denying someone else
their freedom of speech. As bad as you HATE it you people don't speak for everybody...
Shame on you....as been debunked.
http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/dailykos-rumors-debunked-here-is-sarah-palin-pregnancy-photo-on-feb-10th-2008/
And shame on you for ignoring the
fact that while, yes, while these groups are based in hatred and bigotry, don't be so naive to think they won't ingest all the viciousness and hate-mongering coming from a previously admired government official running for the highest office in the land as an excuse to rise to, what they perceive as their cause, and plot the assassination of someone who has been protrayed as an enemy of the state. Get real and get off that high horse of yours, cause its going to be a long fall.
Shame - see message
On all who conveniently forget to talk about all the bashing and awful things that the democrat side does. I posted below some of the stuff the Obama supporters have done to McCain/Palin (hanging her figure from a rope, violence towards the republican office by throwing rocks through windows, vandalizing, etc. And one of the worse so far an attack on her motorcade. What did the attackers think they would do, open the doors and drag her in the street and beat her up like Rodney King. That's what I was thinking when I was watching it on CNN, and I'm sure that's what she was thinking too. So it's okay for a republican to be scared for their life, attacked and hate smear spread about them? You don't condone that? Nobody should have to be scared for their life no matter what political party they belong to. I don't care if its Obama, McCain, Biden, or Palin, nobody deserves that.
So there are those who conviently discard the violence towards the conservatives. And I too put some blame on Obama/Biden for fueling the hate on their side. Play the race card all you want. It's not true but it's used when all else fails. There are radical people on both sides, whether its skinheads or black supporters, there is no reason for violence or hate.
My DH said two things to me that sum up how I feel -
1. Free thinkers questions all.
2. Knowledge frees the mind - read everything.
The shame is that we don't have another choice (sm)
I wish there was someone I could truly feel good about voting for.
Shame on this sentiment!
Exactly what is meant by PUT COUNTRY FIRST? To you it may mean unending war, because that's EXACTLY what McCain would have delivered.
PATRIOTISM to this writer, at least, means standing up for one's COUNTRY against bad government, corrupt government.
THAT MY FRIEND IS EXACTLY, exactly what the majority of Americans did tonight!
They voted *against* the status quo of starting FAKE wars to steal resources - at the costs of millions of innocent lives and HUNDREDS of billion dollars - which costs us more than we can possibly ever understand.
They voted *against* the politics of fear which keeps us divided and paralyzed...
They voted *for* the promise of an America that COULD BE but isn't because of the dangerous and sick policies of the BUSH/GOP 8 years in power.
THEY VOTED **FOR** THEIR COUNTRY!
Shame on you for that message
That was quite nasty. Military fodder? Our boys serve because they want to, because they believe in the USA.
Military industrial complex? That sounds like something out of the mouth of ----- (fill in the blank), not someone who loves their country.
It is a shame that you cannot understand
know something that SCIENCE cannot disprove!
Shame on you. I think he is handling this exactly right. nm
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No, shame on you - see message
For not seeing with your eyes open.
I'm sorry Oldtimer but I really disagree with you on this one and I'm tired of being bashed for my opinions.
Handling this right would be for Obama to handle it the exact same way every single other new president has in the past with his transition team quietly getting things in place. Not so quiet as we don't know what's going on, but not creating a whole new branch of government to feed on his ego. One commenter I read said he's coming off as thought he is "co-president". January 20th will be here soon enough.
What he is doing just sickens a lot of people who understands what is happening.
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