The school yard bully/"I was here first" approach
Posted By: sm on 2009-01-01
In Reply to: Very proud indeed! - FeFiFo
is pretty juvenile, don't you think? Besides, it does not hold water. I hate to break this to you, but the Philistines showed up in the region around the same time that the Hebrews did, around the 12th century BC. The history of civilization did not ensue with the Biblical Hebrews and Palestinian presence predates your Moslem invasion era reference. In fact, since the habitation of the region predates recorded history by nearly a million years, there is no way you can gain any traction with that ridiculously juvenile line of thinking. There is no such thing as paleolithic, neolithic or chalcolithic squatters. So, you see, my view of history is not as short-sighted as yours, which does not go back quite far enough, unless you have some special license to begin it "whenever it suits your purpose."
In any case, that is why no viable debate can be had outside the context of modern (i.e., nationalist/political) times. Like I said before, please leave God out of the ungodly. The fact remains that the geographic regions populated by Philistines/Palestinians have stayed relatively intact under all sorts of invasions and occupations, including the Persians, Hellenistic, Hasmonean, Roman, Byzantine, Arab Caliphates, including Umayyad, Abbasid, Fatimid rule, the Crusades, Mamluk, Egyptian and Ottoman eras....all the way up until the Brits got their hands on it in 1917 and even beyond that for a few decades, until the Partition Plan was instituted. This represents approximately 3147 years of continuous residence. Your finder's keepers thingy applies to both the Hebrew Biblical era as well as modern day fascist Israel. Palestine does not belong to you. Never has. Never will.
Who failed to honor cease fire preconditions by failing to lift the blockade, braniac? Do not try to pretend we are talking about the red rivers of blood from (how few is it now?) the 9 (?) Israeli fatalities. Israel sits on top of generations of their very own road kill.
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Were you the bully in high school too?
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huh? He did this after school hours, in the catholic school...nm
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If they McCain-Palin do win, I will keep the sign in the yard....
however if Obama wins, I already have my "Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him" sign ready to go up. I suspect I will need it really soon. lol.
just stole an Obama sign for my yard -- anyone else?
heck, they had two of them and i wanted one... just couldn't help myself. turned off the car lights, snuck up in the field, snatched it and sped away... now my yard is adorned with a lovely Obama sign... so bad, but feels so very, very good.
For fun and relaxation...don't watch a lot of TV...do do some work in the yard, but my favorite r
with my horses and my Corgis. That is something the whole family enjoys. No deep thinking, just pure enjoyment.
Totally off the subject also...I get creeped out seeing Bill and Hillary and Chelsea together...they look more like business partners than family. Very weird dynamic going on there. At least Fred married the younger woman and they have two beautiful kids together, and actually look like they care about each other. Hard to find fault with that, at least for me.
And totally off the subject again...John Kerry creeped me out from day one, even before the botox. Yikes. lol. And Richard Nixon...even pictures of him creep me out.
Enough of this...Corgis need attention.
God bless, and have a good evening!
No, we take a different approach...(sm)
we torture continuously such that the victim's heart beat goes down to what...35 beats a minute? Or how about that guy that had bone cancer that they beat continuously and withheld medication....he died by the way.
As we approach this anniversary, please do what you can
http://youtube.com/watch?v=se1xMPresLg
Your approach to promoting your cause is like
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I agree. I think there was a better way to approach this...
and posted an idea from Dave Ramsey that seemed like an excellent one. I do think we have to do something...it has gone way too far now.
But ... but ... that's the sensible approach. What are you doing on this board? LOL
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Now why doesn't McCain take that approach?
I've been leaning in favor of Obama these last few weeks and I have to say it's because McCain isn't offering me up any reasons to choose him. Why isn't he attacking Obama's "socialist" viewpoint instead of just trash-talking. I don't want to live in a socialist country, but I also have had enough of the Bush years. Why isn't McCain taking a stronger stance than what he has been.
While I don't want Obama overseeing our healthcare, I also don't want to pay McCain's taxes on it. We're already going to see a hike in our taxes from this bailout, which I think both candidates unwisely supported. Furthermore, I think we need to bring some of our troops back home, unless the Iraqi govt wants to start paying us for having them there. That war alone is costing us millions. On the other hand, I don't want Iran to have nuclear weapons. And don't even get me started on Roe versus Wade. I'm pro-choice, but I'm not pro-mutilating babies that survived abortion. I believe abortion is a decision that needs to be made before 12 weeks' gestation. That's just my feeling and I know many will disagree.
And let's not kid each other about Palin. I personally don't care to be spoken to like I'm a redneck. It's very patronizing and I don't appreciate it. When it was first announced that she was the VP pick, I was very interested in learning more about her and also kind of psyched to get a woman in the White House. But after listening to her address the country, I felt like a kindergartener. She should find a better way to speak to us as American citizens, not rednecks from the backwoods.
A "different approach". Go ahead, be weak.
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"Sam-I-Am" is most definitely a bully.
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I will stick up for Sam, too. -not a bully.
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Perhaps the neighborhood bully syndrome?
And I hate to say it, but Bush is kind of the same kind of guy, only not as openly hateful and weird.
I don't know the final answer and as sassy as I get sometimes on this board, this deep divide kind of bothers me. I can't really get a handle on how folks can have such different opinions.
Then there's always the thought that this is just some nut posting on this board. Better they vent their rage here than be aggressive to someone in person.
Describing Sam as "the pub bully" says all I need
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No the bully is a democrat who changes her name daily (sm)
but her style is so unmistakeable.
I think Dr. Phil is kind of a bully.
Bush considered taking Obama's approach last summer
efforts to forge peace in Israel/Palestine.
Bush floated the idea of re-establishing a diplomatic US interests section in Tehran last summer which for the time being has been shelved.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081004/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_iran_no_deal
Here's the no-brainer rule-of-thumb on this topic. If you wwant war, you don't negotiate with opponents. If you want peace, you sit down aat the table.
When evaluating the credibility of this ad, as yourself that basic question..."Who stands to benefit the most" by taking this position? As they have demonstrated over the past 60 years, it is in Zionist's best interest to perpetuate war in their region. They have been able to enrich their nation immensely with US taxpayer dollars and enjoy an uncontested nuclear bully status in the region as the US's most favorite global puppet. The notion that the US would promote peace or stability in the region would diminish their status exponentially and are the last nation on earth that would like to see the US play the disarmament card.
At least you admit it. Schoolyard taunter, bully
all grown up. Every pack has a leader. You are the leader du jour.
The bully thing would argue in favor of
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Bully pack and gangs of pubs (GOP)
Losers on the board and losers in November.
Wow! Where did you go to school?
At Youngstown University - we complained more about the Indians (hygiene - phew). We partied like animals with the Iraqi's and Iranians and never felt looked down upon by these students - they were good people and treated the female population as equals..........maybe the school wasn't good enough for terrorists?
When I was in school, we were
told to treat others as we would have them treat us.
We didn't get pulled aside and have everything listed out. You can't make fun of fat kids, ugly kids, sissy kids, kids with pimples, kids with body odor. We were told to treat others as we would want to be treated. That is all that needed to be said.
If you want acceptance taught in school then you are going to have to list sex, color, sexual orientation, and all religions. It is much simpler just to say....and always remember the Golden Rule.....treat others as you would have them treat you because bullying and teasing will not be accepted. End of story.
When I was in high school ...
Spanish and French were both offered. They were optional, however. I don't think we should REQUIRE any child to learn a second language. If they want to, fine. And Obama makes the point that most French, Spanish, etc. are bilingual...speaking English AND their native language. Well, duhhh. Of course they do. How else do they cater to American tourists, the lifeblood of several European cities. Or cater to American business. If I moved to France and was going to live there, I would learn French. If Mexicans are going to immigrate and live here, they need to learn English. Where's the rub?
We don't compete with overseas MTs because they are bilingual, trilingual, or multilingual. We complete with them because they will do what we do for a whole lot less money. End of story. Then it has to be run back through American editors to good ENGLISH. Not good INDIAN, FRENCH, SPANISH, et al. Not a real good argument. And I don't know how our children speaking Spanish or French is going to help them unless they plan to move to Spain, Mexico, or France. Last time I checked, speaking Spanish or French did not pay the bills either.
I go to school right now and it is free -
The money comes from our Georgia lottery proceeds. It is called the HOPE scholarship. If you graduate high school with a B or above you get the scholarship. If you were graduated before the program was enacted there is a HOPE grant that will pay for either a certificate or a diploma from a technical school/2 year college and once you complete 45 hours with at least a B average you can then be eligible for the HOPE scholarship which can be used at any university.
I right now am attending school to get a degree in accounting and it is not costing me a penny out of my own pocket.
I have to say that I did see a lot of high school age...sm
kids standing behind him at his rally yesterday.
when he was in elementary school
His teacher asked everyone what they wanted to be when they grew up and he said that he wanted to be the president of the United States. He was the only one who said that because he was in an elementary school in Indonesia at the time. Then he was president of the Harvard Law Review and he like that, so there you go, he volunteered. Better him than me. I would not want to be apologizing to Nancy Regan right now.
Because just like the school systems...
you would start having churches or religious groups saying that they weren't getting as much money as some other church or group and then accusing the governement of trying to back a particular religion. That's the whole reason behind the government staying out of religion. Those that came here from England didn't like the fact that there was a Church of England and if you didn't belong to it, you were jailed or killed.
They don't have to hear it in school.....
By all means, put them in a Christian PRIVATE school. Yea it costs a little bit, but it will teach them to be close-minded just like you. You would be proud of them and their accomplishments!
There ya have it.....the school of thought that put
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Didn't we all go to school
with someone just like JTBB? You know the one, slumped in her seat, talking under her breath, smirking and laughing, rolling her eyes and generally distrupting all serioius business. I think gum cracking was involved as well.
Theories have to stay out of school?
I certainly agree religion needs to stay out of our schools except when clearly labeled for everyone to know, such as a comparative religion class or even the history of a particular religion. But no theories in school? Think about what you're saying. Or did you have a particular theory in mind, say the theory of evolution? Why is that such a hard one for some people? There's more scientific evidence to support evolution than there ever was to support the idea that this rabbi a couple thousand years ago was the physical son of God. And anyway, evolution doesn't disprove creation. You can believe there was an intelligent force behind it all and still believe that evolution was the way it was carried out. Seems like some people want to be able to name that intelligent force, and say what it wants and thinks and force those beliefs on others, though.
Law school 101. Not indicted does not mean not guilty.
I think everyone knows that he had prescriptions from more than a couple of docs.
No one on your side of the fence has answered my question posed above. If MJF had aired an ad against stem cell research, would you have had the same reaction? Would Rush have had the same reaction? I think not. I think you would have applauded him for his courage and his willingness to do such a thing especially in light of the seriousness of his disease. Another question, what do you think about Nancy Reagan and her son Ron being pro stem cell research openly?
Went all the way, school, college degree
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OMG! (lol!) In the public school system,
Thanks for a good laugh!
High School Politics
So I've kinda realized something lately. The presidential election is very similar to a high school election this time around:
~In high school, you usually have a couple of candidates, but it usually narrows down to two. Usually you have one candidate who will promise the stars and the moon in the form of soda machines, more "senior lunches", more time off, etc. Now we all know full and well that a high school class president can't get these things, but he will say he can. Usually the candidate that can promise the most is the one that wins.
~Don't forget, in high school it's also a popularity contest!
~Oh yeah, and if it's two guys, most of the girls don't care what they say, they just vote on the cutest one.
~90% of the voters never even hear what the candidates have to say. They usually just vote off of what everyone else says or who is their buddy.
~In the end, nothing changes at the school. Still the same amount of vending machines with crappy food, still only get one senior lunch per month, and if anything, you lose a few days off.
Now tell me this doesn't sound at all like what is going on right now?
She sounds like a kid out of school, maybe not even 20 yrs old, unskilled nm
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Did ya ever think it could be a school field trip?
Most high school kids don't get a chance to see a presidential until they are of voting age.
I don't put any faith in anything MSNBC writes or talks about. They are are for the O.
It is mandatory for graduation in our school
You can go to school as a legal resident
& don't have to become a citizen. Being adopted by someone doesn't imply that you automatically have that person's citizenship.
I lived in a country that doesn't recognize dual citizenship. I could have gotten a residence visa (work visa would have been possible, but more difficult), but I worked legally and went to school without either of these things. I married a Dutch national and did not give up my U.S. citizenship, but if I had (I was 19 at the time) I could have requested that my U.S. citizenship be reinstated when I turned 21.
The only school for the deaf in our state
is being closed. That's how much the governor cares. He also wants to turn 500 school districts in 100. Don't know how that would be possible. Yet, he will hand out money to professional sports arenas and others that does not benefit the citizens of the state.
So glad this is his last term and cannot be re-elected. Hopefully, there will be more qualified candidates (but doubt) running for governor next election.
P.S. Know his name is Barney Frank. I just like Barney Fife better.
Shouldn't someone who taught school
for 20 years know it's 'twice as well to be thought half as good"? And besides, that slogan was stolen from the feminist movement. A woman has to work twice as hard and do twice as well to be thought half as good as a man."
No points for originality. Minus 1 point for grammar.
I actually went to a private CHRISTIAN school.....
Throughout high school. I'm not saying I would never put my children there, but at this point they have a good school and I am happy with it. BTW, at their school they actually pray still, say the blessing, pledge the flag, etc. Not sure how they get away with it, but yea they do it.
My son is being told in high school
in a lot of his classes that there will not be SS anymore in the near future. SS will be gone.
o.k., inside the catholic school....nm
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Yeah, there is the school of thought that says
''Just don't do it in the street an scare the horses.''
I don't particularly care about who's doing what with whom either, except I do think that the sneaking and the lying are still indicative of basic character. There's this whole alpha-male thing where guys with a little power (businessmen, politicians, doctors, cops, lawyers, soldiers, etc.) seem to be irresistable to some women, especially the guys who would attract little female attention without the trappings of power. I think they actually begin to believe they are mega-hunks and act accordingly.
And I suspect half of it will end when you return to school --
as you claim you will be doing soon (I hope). 
Infantile? High school behavior?
So it's only okay when you do it?
bone up - he also attended Catholic school
so do you think he is the antichrist now?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/
My son came home with something from school sociology class saying (sm)
that there is not a law on the books that people in Ohio cannot vote more than once but that they don't encourage it.
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