constituents who do not want the bailout. They reported on TV this morning their fax machines and phones ringing off the wall. They don't like the bill as it stands. The fact remains, the Democrats had the votes to pass it had the 69 who voted nay had voted yay. They didn't do it because they don't want to be holding the whole bag if it goes south. So to whine about the Republicans who listened to their constituents and not wanting to stick their necks out caused it to fail...wrong.
But it is totally political...the Dems do not want to vote in majority with "Bush/Paulson" plan...because if it failed...you know the drill.
Sigh.
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California, broke Calfornia, would not withstand the cost and could never comply with the protocol. Never. Seattle maybe. At any rate, 160 states and cities is nothing. A mere drop in the bucket. One can only hope that is because the others understand more about what is going on.
Listening over, and over and over, and over, and over and over and over
FYI...I am not affiliated with either party and most definitely am not a liberal.
I have been listening to CNN. It's not there either.
As for Focks news, they have less than zero credibility, so I'll take a pass on that one. I stil suggest you get that hearing air tested. You are imagining things. Did you ever come up with a source? Of course not.
Then you haven't been listening.
I have seen at least four conservatives express concerns about Bush on several occasions, and they even elucidated them. Of course, you would have to take off those blinders to see them but you aren't about to do that. What a joke. As far as your remarks about racisms, I consider your remarks extremely racist. And never mind the fact that black Americans, one of whom was quoted here, are also defending Bennett. Their voices don't count because they must be Uncle Tom's, right. AGAIN, a racist way of thinking.
She was not the brightest bulb anyway...she asserted that the governor would not deploy the National Guard to Iraq, David Petraeus would. Even I know that the governor of the state has to deploy the national guard of that state...the president can't, and David Petraeus can't. They can ask for them, but gov has to give the orders.
At the end of the interview she said: "I'll give it to you, Tucker baby."
Another station said Palin won 72% to Biden 26% and undecided 2%.
The only ones who said Biden won was hard-core Obama supporters, but they had no reference to say what poll they were talking about.
So according to the polls I'm reading on all the sites and stations (except MSNBC of course and I'm not seeing any official polls except for their opinions) state that Palin was the clear winner.
I have nothing to hide either - but don't want them listening to me - nm
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I am listening to Obama right now
on Fox news. He has said McCain's name about 20 times in the last 2 minutes. McCain is not the only one talking about his opponent. I still want to know how Obama is going to pay for all these things he is promising...he is going to pick the hardworking pockets of the middle class to give it to people who don't work
The only thing I have been listening to is
my own conscience and the uncanny way my candidate is able to give me voice.
HELLLOOOOO - Are you not listening.
The certiciate on factcheck is a forgery. Do you know what a forgery is? That means it is not real or legitimate. Hence, the Supreme Court is now involved. Just by the O supporters saying it is real doesn't make it so.
Let's wait for the experts to decide and also keep an open mind.
This is not an issue just by Fox. This is an issue that the Supreme Court wants to find out, many judges, and lawyers, and believe it or not even a lot of democrats. There are people from each of the united states who want to know this before it is time for the electorates to vote. They want the issue resolved. Many lawsuits are going on right now. Not just one.
So if it comes out that O is not eligible for office you still will have your democrat in there. What's the big deal.
But please don't provide us with these nonsense organizations that support the O to believe what they say. Let the indpendent people who follow the law and are defenders of the constitution to decide. If the shoe was on the other foot and it was John McCain and he went around and had the records sealed and then had Swiftboat come out and say "oh yeah, I viewed it, it's legitimate" you would want an independent party to view it. So why don't you want an independent party to view Obama's real certificate. He never submitted the original like he was supposed to. He submitted a forged one that was created by a computer (which anyone can do now adays). And I wouldn't take the home state where the O went to school after he returned from Indonesia and where his grandparents lived to validate this. Of course they want him to be president.
Let the courts decide!
Stop listening to the MSM
You're only getting one side. The one they want to portray. They have always been enemies of Israel. You can tell over the years by them reporting about those poor innocent palestenians, hamas, etc.
You need to read both sides. "H" launched the first one. Not Israel. So you think Israel should should just sit and take it and let their innocent be victimized and killed and not do anything?
LAWRENCE, Kansas, Dec. 6, 2005 (AP) A Kansas professor whose planned course on creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he sent e-mails deriding Christian conservatives was taken to the hospital Monday following what he said was a beating.
University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki told the Lawrence Journal-World that two men who beat him were making references to the class that was to be offered for the first time this coming spring. Originally called Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies, the course was canceled last week at Mirecki's request.
The class was added after the Kansas Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in science standards for elementary and secondary students.
I didn't know them, Mirecki said of his alleged assailants, but I'm sure they knew me.
One recent e-mail from Mirecki to members of a student organization referred to religious conservatives as fundies, and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a nice slap in their big fat face. Mirecki has apologized for those comments.
Lt. Kari Wempe, a spokeswoman for the Douglas County Sheriff's Department, said a deputy was dispatched to Lawrence Memorial Hospital after receiving a call around 7 a.m. regarding a battery.
She said Mirecki reported he was attacked around 6:40 a.m. in rural Douglas County south of Lawrence. Mirecki told the Journal-World he was driving to breakfast when he noticed the men tailgating him in a pickup truck.
I just pulled over hoping they would pass, and then they pulled up real close behind, he said. They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out.
He said the men beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object.
Wempe said Mirecki drove himself to the hospital.
Mirecki told the student newspaper, The University Daily Kansan, that he spent between three and four hours at the hospital. He said his injuries included a broken tooth.
I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots, he told the Journal-World.
Wempe said Mirecki described the suspects as two white men between 30 and 40 years of age. One of the men was described as wearing a red visor-like ball cap and wool gloves. Mirecki said the men left in a large pickup truck.
Wempe said the department will investigate every aspect, but couldn't discuss specifics.
Andrew Stangl, president of the Society for Open Minded Atheists and Agnostics at the university, described the attack as bizarre and terrifying. He said Mirecki, who is the group's faculty adviser, is adamant that the alleged beating is related to the recently canceled course.
That absolutely shocked me, he said, because people don't do that in a civilized society.
Sen. Kay O'Connor, a Mirecki critic, said there is no excuse for someone physically assaulting the professor - regardless of their politics.
I have zero tolerance for thugs, she said. There is never an excuse to behave in such a manner. This was just thugs. They used a flimsy excuse, if they had one, to behave as thugs. They can talk about the ID (intelligent design) course if they want to, but that's not an excuse.
on CNN this morning and just as she is getting to the part where she is detailing her plan for withdrawal from Iraq,CNN cuts away to cover Cheney......You don't think there's any significance do ya?!
Politics!!!!!!!!! ARGH!
I could not find any coverage on any other channel.
stimulus package, I'm getting more furious every hour with some of the senators.
It seems there is no bipartisanship happening except the republicans trying to stop the bloated parts of the package, that which has nothing to do with the stimulus. So far, the amount is up to $990B and growing. One senator pointed out that if it passes the way it is, it will be over $1.7 TRILLION and we can't afford it.
Senator Tom Coburn (R) OK stated the Constitution gave us no authorization to do what we're doing (meddling in business, banking, etc.) He had a wonderful speech. I hope to find it on the 'net later.
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R) TN stated fix housing first.
Sen. James Inhofer (R) OK states he hopes all republicans stand up and agree this won't work but Sen. McCain's amendment should pass and WILL work. I don't know what's in Sen. McCain's amendment as it's not posted yet.
Now, my absolutely favorite senator (NOT!): Sen. Schumer (D) NY. He stated THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THIS STIMULUS and sort of threatened in a veiled way that it WILL PASS no matter what the republicans want. I think everybody and their friends and family ought to clog his email with messages of how we DON'T want this package the way it is and since when is he a mindreader? The article I posted is probably the American people he is talking about.
Now there's a guy who really understands the American people. I found a little item on the 'net while I was looking for other stuff and I'm providing the link. Maybe a lot of you saw this before, but this is the first I've seen it. The date is JANUARY 22, 2007, so he knew all along that there was trouble brewing.
You evidently have not been listening with an open mind
It sounds like you too have been listening to the left wing media. Rush Limbaugh has come out as one of the most powerful and positive voices. What he says is just the way it is. It is what more and more people are feeling. People are listening to him and his ratings have been skyrocketing because of what he has to say. He tells it like it is and the liberals are trying their best to trash him but it isn't working. Like Rahm Emanuel who takes what he says and twists it and outright lies. It's funny how good the liberals are at lying and distorting the facts. Rush Limbaugh is not the only reason but one of the main reasons why we will see a surge in more Americans moving to being conservative. They are tired of the same ol rhetoric garbage and not being told the truth from the liberal media and this is why MSNBC (Olberman & Matthews shows) are tanking big time.
You evidently have not been listening with an open mind
It sounds like you too have been listening to the left wing media. Rush Limbaugh has come out as one of the most powerful and positive voices. What he says is just the way it is. It is what more and more people are feeling. People are listening to him and his ratings have been skyrocketing because of what he has to say. He tells it like it is and the liberals are trying their best to trash him but it isn't working. Like Rahm Emanuel who takes what he says and twists it and outright lies. It's funny how good the liberals are at lying and distorting the facts. Rush Limbaugh is not the only reason but one of the main reasons why we will see a surge in more Americans moving to being conservative. They are tired of the same ol rhetoric garbage and not being told the truth from the liberal media and this is why MSNBC (Olberman & Matthews shows) are tanking big time. Rush Limbaugh is the Democrats worst hope/fear to losing the next election. Not the only reason though because the Democrats are doing a great job of that on their own.
He's from about 35 miles from here; been listening to him on radio for years.
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Listening to his music won't expose her to his lifestyle; however,
purchasing his CDs directly or indirectly supports his lifestyle.
I like Melissa Etheridge's music, but I have never purchased a CD.
I don't know how they can stand up there and lie through their teeth like that...blaming the White House and Republicans for this financial debacle. They know that is a lie. They know, especially Chris Dodd, was central to this. Also mentioned Barney Frank. Good grief. The hypocrisy is staggering. They should be talking about getting us out of this mess....just yesterday they were saying don't play the blame game. Telling McCain not to politicize it while they are politicizing it. That man makes my skin crawl.
And saying there was a "deal" and McCain blew it up. The only "deal" was among senators...the only house person present could not negotiate. He just had to listen. If they had the plan and had gone to the house with it, then the house would have blocked it there and hours if not days would have been wasted. Amazing the gall of some folks. Ridiculous!!!
Why can't they all stop the political posturing and just fix this mess. The House is only reacting to the onslaught of emails from their constituents saying protect us here, we don't like this carte blanche 700 billion. I for one am GLAD at least the Republicans in the house said whoa wait just a minute here.
Stephen Crockett posted this twice (at least) on the Conservative Board, in response to an old quote of his being used out of context and distorted by the usual suspects there. Each time he posted it, it was deleted from the board. It's certainly easy to understand why they don't want anyone to see this.
Please read quickly. They think they should control our board, as well as their own, so it probably won't last very long here, either.
African-American Voters Scrubbed by Secret GOP Hit List
Published by Greg Palast June 16th, 2006 in Articles Massacre of the Buffalo Soldiers by Greg Palast As reported for Democracy Now!
Palast, who first reported this story for BBC Television Newsnight (UK) and Democracy Now! (USA), is author of the New York Times bestseller, Armed Madhouse.
The Republican National Committee has a special offer for African-American soldiers: Go to Baghdad, lose your vote.
A confidential campaign directed by GOP party chiefs in October 2004 sought to challenge the ballots of tens of thousands of voters in the last presidential election, virtually all of them cast by residents of Black-majority precincts. Files from the secret vote-blocking campaign were obtained by BBC Television Newsnight, London. They were attached to emails accidentally sent by Republican operatives to a non-party website.
One group of voters wrongly identified by the Republicans as registering to vote from false addresses: servicemen and women sent overseas.
******* For Greg Palast’’s discussion with broadcaster Amy Goodman on the Black soldier purge of 2004, go to http://gregpalast.com/armedmadhouse/palastDN6-14-06.mp3
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Here’’s how the scheme worked: The RNC mailed these voters letters in envelopes marked, Do not forward, to be returned to the sender. These letters were mailed to servicemen and women, some stationed overseas, to their US home addresses. The letters then returned to the Bush-Cheney campaign as undeliverable.
The lists of soldiers of undeliverable letters were transmitted from state headquarters, in this case Florida, to the RNC in Washington. The party could then challenge the voters’’ registration and thereby prevent their absentee ballots being counted.
One target list was comprised exclusively of voters registered at the Jacksonville, Florida, Naval Air Station. Jacksonville is third largest naval installation in the US, best known as home of the Blue Angels fighting squandron.
[See this scrub sheet at http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=160156893&context=set-72157594155273706&size=o
Our team contacted the homes of several on the caging list, such as Randall Prausa, a serviceman, whose wife said he had been ordered overseas.
A soldier returning home in time to vote in November 2004 could also be challenged on the basis of the returned envelope. Soldiers challenged would be required to vote by provisional ballot.
Over one million provisional ballots cast in the 2004 race were never counted; over half a million absentee ballots were also rejected. The extraordinary rise in the number of rejected ballots was the result of the widespread multi-state voter challenge campaign by the Republican Party. The operation, of which the purge of Black soldiers was a small part, was the first mass challenge to voting America had seen in two decades.
The BBC obtained several dozen confidential emails sent by the Republican’’s national Research Director and Deputy Communications chief, Tim Griffin to GOP Florida campaign chairman Brett Doster and other party leaders. Attached were spreadsheets marked, Caging.xls. Each of these contained several hundred to a few thousand voters and their addresses.
A check of the demographics of the addresses on the caging lists, as the GOP leaders called them indicated that most were in African-American majority zip codes.
Ion Sanco, the non-partisan elections supervisor of Leon County (Tallahassee) when shown the lists by this reporter said: The only thing I can think of - African American voters listed like this - these might be individuals that will be challenged if they attempted to vote on Election Day.
These GOP caging lists were obtained by the same BBC team that first exposed the wrongful purge of African-American felon voters in 2000 by then-Secretary of State Katherine Harris. Eliminating the voting rights of those voters —— 94,000 were targeted —— likely caused Al Gore’’s defeat in that race.
The Republican National Committee in Washington refused our several requests to respond to the BBC discovery. However, in Tallahassee, the Florida Bush campaign’’s spokespeople offered several explanations for the list.
Joseph Agostini, speaking for the GOP, suggested the lists were of potential donors to the Bush campaign. Oddly, the supposed donor list included residents of the Sulzbacher Center a shelter for homeless families.
Another spokesperson for the Bush campaign, Mindy Tucker Fletcher, ultimately changed the official response, acknowledging that these were voters, we mailed to, where the letter came back - bad addresses.
The party has refused to say why it would mark soldiers as having bad addresses subject to challenge when they had been assigned abroad.
The apparent challenge campaign was not inexpensive. The GOP mailed the letters first class, at a total cost likely exceeding millions of dollars, so that the addresses would be returned to cage workers.
This is not a challenge list, insisted the Republican spokesmistress. However, she modified that assertion by adding, That’’s not what it’’s set up to be.
Setting up such a challenge list would be a crime under federal law. The Voting Rights Act of 1965 outlaws mass challenges of voters where race is a factor in choosing the targeted group.
While the party insisted the lists were not created for the purpose to challenge Black voters, the GOP ultimately offered no other explanation for the mailings. However, Tucker Fletcher asserted Republicans could still employ the list to deny ballots to those they considered suspect voters. When asked if Republicans would use the list to block voters, Tucker Fletcher replied, Where it’’s stated in the law, yeah.
It is not possible at this time to determine how many on the potential blacklist were ultimately challenged and lost their vote. Soldiers sending in their ballot from abroad would not know their vote was lost because of a challenge.
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For the full story of caging lists and voter purges of 2004, plus the documents, read Greg Palast’’s New York Times bestseller, ARMED MADHOUSE: Who’’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?, Armed Madhouse: Who’’s Afraid of Osama Wolf?, China Floats Bush Sinks, the Scheme to Steal ‘‘08, No Child’’s Behind Left and other Dispatches from the Front Lines of the Class War.
what about republicans?
As John Dean recently said I'm still a Goldwater conservative. Today, that places me left of centerWhat is says is that I and many others, Republicans,
Independents, Progressives, Green Party are sick of having these insane **wars that cannot be won** wars that have no **definition or reason** foisted upon us. You think that winning, whatever that is, is worth whatever it takes including more American and Iraqi lives. We did not leave Viet Nam because of the left and we sure as heck won't be leaving Iraq because of the left. The **American people** the majority (even on Fox news) are dissatisfied with Iraq, the lies and the incompetence. The same was true for Viet Nam. They would take the hill, then lose the hill, then take the hill, then lose the hill, never knowing what having the hill was all about but a whole slew of people would be dead at the end of it. Incompetence, arrogance and ignorance. That is what got us into both these wars. Some times you just have to suck it up and move on, cut your losses and get out. We, the liberals, did not start this nor is it our fault that it will end the way it will and it will end and it won't be pretty. We do not belong there. We cannot win anything. There are those who will hold on till the bitter end and even then will refuse to give up. Years after Viet Nam you guys are still fighting that war, er, conflict. When the state I grew up in, Indiana, is voting Democratic, you know the gig is up. Although Hoosiers vote for Democrats on a local basis, I cannot remember a time the state did not send all of its electoral votes to the Republican party and Indiana is usually the first state to be called for the Republican side, but not today. As much as you would like to malign the left and blame us if we do leave Iraq before you think it is time to, for the first time in a long time, you are in the minority. Middle class middle America, Indiana, is voting Democratic. That is huge. Many of them on exit polls cited the corruption in Congress as a second reason they were not voting Republican.
But the same can be said for many republicans.
To decide you will never vote democrat again based on the actions and words of a few radical examples on an internet message board for medical transcriptionists is hardly objective. I can think of extreme examples of republicans, too, but I do not judge all republicans based on those examples. There are plenty of republicans who support Bush just because he's republican. No difference.
Republicans
amen sister!
Sorry. IMO it is the republicans that are...sm
constantly comparing Palin to Obama and we wish you would stop, and so does he and has said so several times. I am willing to compare Obama to McCain and Palin to Biden, no problem. You call the dems extremists, look in the mirror.
what does that have to do with republicans? nm
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Well...what the Republicans DID NOT...
do for me was cripple the economy. THANK YOU, REPUBLICANS. What they did not do was raise my taxes. THANK YOU, REPUBLICANS. They are right now trying to keep Democrats from a huge wasteful expansion of welfare programs when we are in grave economic straits getting worse by the day...THANK YOU REPUBLICANS. And just for the record...I am a registered Independent.
Kool-aid....good grief. If it comes out of the Great O's mouth people just buy it, hook line and sinker. He doesn't have to explain anything. Hey, we are going to spend a trillion more dollars and help all those poor people, especially the ones who don't even PAY taxes. Bless their hearts. And WHO is paying for this...oh well, that would be you and me. What happened to the middle class tax cuts? Oh well, we can't do that...we are in a recession. But let's spend a trillion on even more programs. Why not??
Do you really not get ANY of that? Just asking.
Because the REPUBLICANS
Obama has tried to engage the Republicans, but as you can see by this board, there is no way they will ever cooperate. No matter what Obama does or says will never be good enough for them.
Just a microcosm of the real world. Republicans need to learn to get along and stop trying to set themselves up for office in 2012. Their posturing is hurting the American people.
Many Republicans were against the ...
bailouts. I sure was and am. Keep in mind that many Americans ARE Republicans. It is certainly not the goal of Republicans to see the country fail. My family and many other families are military families that are more than willing to fight for this country. Nobody laughs about this mess, guaranteed.
I think the republicans have been more ga-ga over...
putting more earmarks in bills coming across Congress. Did you see that over 40% of the earmarks in this omnibus bill are from republicans? I was so excited after almost every one of them voted no on the other bill because of earmarks, but I guess I shouldn't have expected that to last long. These are politicians we're talking about - one side is just as bad as the other.
hey republicans, did it hit a nerve?
For the post of failure=bush to have gotten such a response, IMHAO makes me think we have hit a nerve, LMFAO. If it meant nothing because they thought their leader was so righteous, so smart, so dang right in his policies, they would have dismissed the post about failure=bush..When you protest so loudly, you prove we are right and it irks you..sigh..too bad..
The Republicans actually blew it, thank you.
That sordid little event in Clinton's office never had to become public in the way that it did. It became public because the Republicans desperately, avariciously WANTED it to become public. So no crocodile tears now about how Clinton spoiled everything when that is exactly what you wanted to happen. If the private, cheating, sordid lives of all politicians were to PURPOSEFULLY AND DELIBERATELY be made public - especially including those who most adamantly prosecuted Clinton - I think all the tearful nellies who think our leaders were all fine upstanding moral guardians before Clinton came along would simply have their naive little heads explode from the shock.
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