The problem is that our freedoms, our..

Posted By: Lurker on 2006-05-12
In Reply to: Guys, I'm going to be honest...sm - Democrat

civil rights are being chipped away little by little. While I may not care if the NSA is listening in on my phone calls because I'm not doing anything(I do care though) and I go along with it, maybe not now but eventually there will be a freedom/civil right that I do care about being eroded or eliminated. That is how it works. First the smaller things with lots of fear thrown in along with a healthy dose of intimidation...i.e. there are terrorists under each and every bed and if you do not go along with this wiretapping, you will be enabling, promoting another 9/11...or you dare question the government in this time of terrorism...you unpatriotic, pinko, commie Marxist. This works on most people for awhile but as I said, eventually there will be some part of the Bill of Rights that will be rewritten and it will be something you care desperately about. That is why the government needs checks and balances. Go with you hopes, not your fears.

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Bush Administration is Spying on TENS OF MILLIONS of Americans - PK
- Guys, I'm going to be honest...sm - Democrat
  - The problem is that our freedoms, our.. - Lurker
    - Thanks Lurker...and I agree with you about checks and balances...nm - Democrat
  - Democrat, see message - Starcat
    - Two things: - PK
      - Yes, I saw that too, PK. It will be interesting, no? - no msg. - Starcat
        Sure will. - PK
      - Do you really rely on information from the Daily Kos? - Lila
        I guess we'll all find out next week, huh? - PK
  - This is my problem, Democrat. - PK
    - Pardon me for saying so but here is no way Bush ever said that about the Constitution. - Lila
      - Okay, now Rush/O'Liely/Colter didn't say it, - -- sm - Starcat
        The word *reportedly* strikes me. - Lila
        The word *confirmed* strikes me. - PK
        Actions vs words. - Lila
        I wholeheartedly agree that he didn't consider - PK
        Left leaning. - Lila
        Please see message. - PK
        comments (sm) - an observer
        I forgot to say, I will answer your post in more depth later. - Lila
        PK...You are my hero/shero! sm - Democrat
        You would be surprised how much of what you have said I agree with. - Lila
    - Agree with you, PK, but safe is only - holy cow
    - Agree with you 100%, PK - no msg. - Starcat
- Don't like this at all.... - holy cow
  - Same here. - PK
- Devil's Advocate. - Lila
  - Warrantless listening in on me...bad. nm - Lurker
- So What...... - So did Clinton
- They are a scary bunch aren't they?sm - LVMT
  - And then there is this. - Lila
  - Not as scary as the the aircraft carriers now heading for Iran. - PK
    - A great leader, they must be joking. sm - LVMT
      - Yep. - PK
        I never heard that quote before. sm - Lila
        With pleasure. - PK
        Thank you for providing the link. - Lila
        Here's another one that sheds even more light. - PK
        You're welcome. - PK

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I take NO freedoms for granted, which is
why I am adamant about getting Obama out of office....PERIOD! He should be impeached!! He is stripping us of our civil liberties left and right and everyone just sits on their complacent butts and lets him!!

No, I believe our military, if not voluntary, should be a "private entity" to fight foreign wars. They signh up themselves to fight.... and believe me, there would be plenty!!

I don't want anyone fighting for this country who really doesn't believe in the cause in the first place and there are plenty of young disillusioned young people (and for good reason) who feel that way.

I had many military men in my family who fought in WWI, II, Korea, Vietnam, and I would never take that honor from them.

If you think the same mindset is in our young people now that was back in WWI and II, you are living in a dream. Generations ago, many of those folks had fled with their parents to the U.S. to escape tyranny and onslaught of their freedoms!! They understood what was going on and had good reason to want to fight.

It is not the same now. Most young people in this country have no earthly idea what is going on in history, let alone being taught the truth about history.... they are taught liberals lies, one-sided agendas, now having "lifestyle" choices FORCED down their throats in school!!

Heck no.... it is a different country. I want volunteer military. Otherwise, it is forced servitude and that is NOT what our founding fathers meant by bearing arms!! That was for OUR benefit! Government was to oversee a strong military and nothing else, let alone oversee ME or YOU! That was the very thing they were fleeing.

But he is part of the freedoms that symbolize this country

Whatdya wanna do? Have him shot? Muzzled? Yeah, it's unfortunate that he has said some of things he did.

It's just every time you mention him rather rabidly he gets more attention and more power. As I said, there are right-wing crazies or religious crazies I could rant about, but hey, they're not worth it.